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June 01, 2014, 01:44:07 PM |
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There's so much irrelevant, confusing info surrounding all of this. Bottom line it for me: are XC transactions really anonymous or can they be traced? I'm not interested in future promises, I'm asking about right now, this minute.
What's the hurry?
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aleix
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June 01, 2014, 01:47:09 PM |
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There's so much irrelevant, confusing info surrounding all of this. Bottom line it for me: are XC transactions really anonymous or can they be traced? I'm not interested in future promises, I'm asking about right now, this minute.
What's the hurry? +1 I think you must ask: Is the dev working in the right direction to create a true anon currency? I really don't know, im not a member of XC community
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June 01, 2014, 01:51:39 PM |
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There's so much irrelevant, confusing info surrounding all of this. Bottom line it for me: are XC transactions really anonymous or can they be traced? I'm not interested in future promises, I'm asking about right now, this minute.
Monero is the best coin for anonymous transactions currently. It uses ring signatures and has been out for a couple months now. Darksend has also been functioning for months but it is not as sophisticated. XC at launch had a central mixing node that is basically the same as a coin mixer site except you just connect right to the mixer from your wallet (very unsophisticated, requires trusting the dev). I believe it's currently disabled. That is probably what they were using for yesterday's test release. I think there is some misinformation that it was using "xnodes". As a commenter said above, it is primarily the fact that loljosh developed the coin which makes me suspect that bold claims of coming up with this new xnode software are lies from atcsecure.
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June 01, 2014, 01:58:23 PM |
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There's so much irrelevant, confusing info surrounding all of this. Bottom line it for me: are XC transactions really anonymous or can they be traced? I'm not interested in future promises, I'm asking about right now, this minute.
Are DRK really anonymous or not ? I also hold DRK but havent seen a video or someone show that it works... But BIIIG focus on that XC has to work... lol
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Join the revolution - XC - Decentralized Trustless Multi-Node Private Transactions
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June 01, 2014, 01:58:56 PM |
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Can you show that DRK is anonymous ?
Check this. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5557138#msg5557138DarkSend Beta Version 3 is Live!Last night I figured out how to make DarkSend completely anonymous. What's even better is it's simple and elegant. Before I had said I thought I could get to 95%, I think now with this model I can get to 99%+. So what's new? Check out the V3 announcement PDF: http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/DarkSendv3.pdf https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5556699#msg5556699Who pay who ? No extra tx in another block. all happen in one block. Short Link: http://explorer.darkcoin.io/t/4HZphGr8EQ
Hash: 56b3b95b76995d3e4d3107cf753c8496493010f625fc04d971e9262d74e6a5a5 Appeared in DarkCoin 29026 (2014-03-06 22:13:10) Number of inputs: 3 (Jump to inputs) Total in: 30 Number of outputs: 6 (Jump to outputs) Total out: 29.997 Size: 658 bytes Fee: 0.003 Raw transaction Inputs
Index Previous output Amount From address ScriptSig 0 5cc7d00714...:1 10 n3nKty81M9mYPj4aer46CjtWUp6VKH8v2L 72:3045...7681 33:0224...b6d3 1 33941482c3...:1 10 micLoMBJzjgvYka79E6xSSAhogRcjh53mr 71:3044...9781 33:03e2...914d 2 1d896b3ec3...:1 10 msXfiW9BQQv4BDHeKX4XM7TyTXbb75WZiU 73:3046...6f81 33:0324...a4e9 Outputs
Index Redeemed at input Amount To address ScriptPubKey 0 1204b22a50...:0 3.12 n2nKxoTww1ajHsngTtyvjGr3UHL6qAmEKR DUP HASH160 20:e942...dba3 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG 1 d6fe45f4ec...:1 2.379 n3izyMLjUq5toEnw1UiPrBRGnWd6DDTke8 DUP HASH160 20:f399...59bf EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG 2 1de7fa855c...:9 6.879 mteweeY58NKe7WFvr2cUe9iuLyYWhEWpkr DUP HASH160 20:901c...bab3 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG 3 9de6cff7c3...:4 7.184 n3N3fTDRqhJknZUW8eUR7hrmHj9TLhVmyy DUP HASH160 20:efa3...8431 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG 4 d6fe45f4ec...:2 7.62 mhBYDyCggC3DqkNcTBgKKTp13euGCupsxW DUP HASH160 20:1244...997c EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG 5 3708282f9b...:2 2.815 mhBYDyCggC3DqkNcTBgKKTp13euGCupsxW DUP HASH160 20:1244...997c EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
XC ? tx from here http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/92a7e218f7df0e4eba5c346e66e12fd1aa66ab7abe490ce03694cf89b42fc92dis included in 000003ba4410e9be27dee00053af64fb971642465b8f0f725a254fadd8dd21e5 Abe logo Transaction 92a7e218f7...c92d
Short Link: http://coincraft.info:2750/t/6ZLkvZhVVf
Hash: 92a7e218f7df0e4eba5c346e66e12fd1aa66ab7abe490ce03694cf89b42fc92d Appeared in XCTestnet 1897 (2014-05-30 21:10:17) Number of inputs: 2 (Jump to inputs) Total in: 1.868174 Number of outputs: 2 (Jump to outputs) Total out: 1.868154 Size: 378 bytes Fee: 0.00002 Raw transaction Inputs
Index Previous output Amount From address ScriptSig 0 c9bfdd9b22...:0 0.898795 mqb58nmjXvjy2r9ygpJY3mXLPss5CvBvK5 72:3045...3401 33:03eb...e5bd 1 f1928df7ff...:0 0.969379 moGRQxKg7QGUENPnDeErZjrHbSfuHNSoLu 72:3045...7e01 33:02dc...19b8 Outputs
Index Redeemed at input Amount To address ScriptPubKey 0 4f836ad73f...:5 0.696382 mthXNUYbqWBJz91zi1hUiDW4c3CgXDvtVK DUP HASH160 20:9099...3dd6 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG 1 7f4b06ae9c...:0 1.171772 mzvu2b5Ya4GtFum9vCyvu4MAvLEgnJSsCW DUP HASH160 20:d4f1...e3ae EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
one more tx http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/cff2fc4fce41e9264f9ca10dfc75d99096cf2d086f308312b241e79d45a2a90bHash: cff2fc4fce41e9264f9ca10dfc75d99096cf2d086f308312b241e79d45a2a90b Appeared in XCTestnet 1897 (2014-05-30 21:10:17) Number of inputs: 1 (Jump to inputs) Total in: 2.06471 Number of outputs: 2 (Jump to outputs) Total out: 2.0647 Size: 231 bytes Fee: 0.00001 Raw transaction Inputs
Index Previous output Amount From address ScriptSig 0 7bebb21aa1...:0 2.06471 msErg2uYSxKhuP3EYZDfY8h7or3YwK4HGF 73:3046...5001 33:0220...0281 Outputs
Index Redeemed at input Amount To address ScriptPubKey 0 9d4bb6b8e0...:0 1.236472 mutzKHtyABqn7dypWAJFKhXHktkoQgsAYX DUP HASH160 20:9dbc...11e2 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG 1 745997e025...:2 0.828228 mzvu2b5Ya4GtFum9vCyvu4MAvLEgnJSsCW DUP HASH160 20:d4f1...e3ae EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
http://coincraft.info:2750/block/000003ba4410e9be27dee00053af64fb971642465b8f0f725a254fadd8dd21e5next block http://coincraft.info:2750/block/000002288102b797f213f374b6239e8e8b00facecdc6c2670921e6cf73492a04next block http://coincraft.info:2750/block/000003bb336107c9da7484670e0078982ecc1fba2cdd090015db5f2eadf3c951next block http://coincraft.info:2750/block/0000078ca7c04787f63d7e7b9a71512888df3f5553179b424b18a2d9b70bafbbpayment to real payee is here, n + 3 block. http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/9cfcd36afea020fd2c47537c0c9f4f504e2cb9d035f325bb032f79bd5603da07 Transaction 9cfcd36afe...da07
Short Link: http://coincraft.info:2750/t/6x3ry5BGTH
Hash: 9cfcd36afea020fd2c47537c0c9f4f504e2cb9d035f325bb032f79bd5603da07 Appeared in XCTestnet 1900 (2014-05-30 21:14:08) Number of inputs: 74 (Jump to inputs) Total in: 2.00018 Number of outputs: 1 (Jump to outputs) Total out: 1.99999 Size: 11004 bytes Fee: 0.00019 Raw transaction Inputs
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Index Redeemed at input Amount To address ScriptPubKey 0 Not yet redeemed 1.99999 msJQeu3mJZDZM3nRZBddHhR3J3DGMzryow DUP HASH160 20:8142...f8a4 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
Dev anounnced this The wallet release is on track for tonight.
It will be mainnet ready, and have the XNode code in the wallet. It is fully decentralized.
Just to clarify somethings as well - REV2 will have a solution to the bad actor problem. Using a dynamic learning trust system, the wallet will choose the trusted nodes over the bad actor nodes. This also will be tied into the fee system so it will also be incentive based.
I will also be laying out a very high level roadmap of what’s next, what’s coming and long term plans. As part of this process, I will be putting together a complete business plan, which will be release later this week.
Also if your running an XNODE your 1000 XC's will not stake. There is a feature in the wallet - reserve balance - which basically prevents those coins from staking. Xnodes will need to use this feature so that the coins are available for the Xpool.
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What the meaning of no staking == Xnode use your money to send real payee, after receiving input from user X. No addreess to time gap. 2 ~ 3 blocks.......
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blakely
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June 01, 2014, 02:05:29 PM |
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There's so much irrelevant, confusing info surrounding all of this. Bottom line it for me: are XC transactions really anonymous or can they be traced? I'm not interested in future promises, I'm asking about right now, this minute.
What's the hurry? That is the answer of one who is a scammer or one who has been scammed. The Dev promised it was anon now, if it's not the whole thing is a lie. I take it that' a no, I feel really sorry for anyone who lost money on this.
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June 01, 2014, 02:10:30 PM |
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Dev anoounced this also The wallet release is on track for tonight.
It will be mainnet ready, and have the XNode code in the wallet. It is fully decentralized.
Just to clarify somethings as well - REV2 will have a solution to the bad actor problem. Using a dynamic learning trust system, the wallet will choose the trusted nodes over the bad actor nodes. This also will be tied into the fee system so it will also be incentive based.
I will also be laying out a very high level roadmap of what’s next, what’s coming and long term plans. As part of this process, I will be putting together a complete business plan, which will be release later this week.
Also if your running an XNODE your 1000 XC's will not stake. There is a feature in the wallet - reserve balance - which basically prevents those coins from staking. Xnodes will need to use this feature so that the coins are available for the Xpool.
ATCSECURE
As I stated in the beginning, a primary focus will be bringing XC to the retail marketplace and putting XC on the Point of Sale/DEBIT/VISA Network... These features will be added to the wallet, and as part of the Mobile Android wallet as well... The mobile wallet will also have NFC support for P2P transfers mobile to mobile... all of this will be in the roadmap coming out tonight Oh with this ?? .. Well he can hire someone to fix ..
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June 01, 2014, 02:15:04 PM |
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Dev anoounced this also The wallet release is on track for tonight.
It will be mainnet ready, and have the XNode code in the wallet. It is fully decentralized.
Just to clarify somethings as well - REV2 will have a solution to the bad actor problem. Using a dynamic learning trust system, the wallet will choose the trusted nodes over the bad actor nodes. This also will be tied into the fee system so it will also be incentive based.
I will also be laying out a very high level roadmap of what’s next, what’s coming and long term plans. As part of this process, I will be putting together a complete business plan, which will be release later this week.
Also if your running an XNODE your 1000 XC's will not stake. There is a feature in the wallet - reserve balance - which basically prevents those coins from staking. Xnodes will need to use this feature so that the coins are available for the Xpool.
ATCSECURE
As I stated in the beginning, a primary focus will be bringing XC to the retail marketplace and putting XC on the Point of Sale/DEBIT/VISA Network... These features will be added to the wallet, and as part of the Mobile Android wallet as well... The mobile wallet will also have NFC support for P2P transfers mobile to mobile... all of this will be in the roadmap coming out tonight Oh with this ?? .. Well he can hire someone to fix .. People are questioning his promises, the price is tanking, trust is waning, and suddenly instead of in 3 weeks he is already ready with anon xnode implementation? My alarm bells are ringing. This reeks of pump and dump.
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blakely
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June 01, 2014, 02:24:04 PM |
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I don't think people are dumb enough to fall for this twice, are they? maybe I should buy some quick, ready to shit all over my fellow man. Then, I can feel like such an accomplishment - I just made 50 grand, immediately cash out in fiat and enjoy a week in the Bahamas then back to work, thinking up the next scam. This scene makes my stomach turn.
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I don't think people are dumb enough to fall for this twice, are they? maybe I should buy some quick, ready to shit all over my fellow man. Then, I can feel like such an accomplishment - I just made 50 grand, immediately cash out in fiat and enjoy a week in the Bahamas then back to work, thinking up the next scam. This scene makes my stomach turn.
Thankfully it looks like whatever support XC has today will be overshadowed by Darkcoin's. Justice will prevail. Looks like Darkcoin is on Bitfinex orderbook: https://www.bitfinex.com/pages/order_book/?pair=drkbtcNote: I am not a fan of any particular digital currency. I am simply a day trader and opportunist trying to make the most money. I am simply rooting for whichever technology is the best. I currently think that is Monero.
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r0ach
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June 01, 2014, 02:33:27 PM |
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I don't think people are dumb enough to fall for this twice, are they? maybe I should buy some quick, ready to shit all over my fellow man. Then, I can feel like such an accomplishment - I just made 50 grand, immediately cash out in fiat and enjoy a week in the Bahamas then back to work, thinking up the next scam. This scene makes my stomach turn.
I've bought in and out of the XC market numerous times, it's a nice day trader coin. Nobody knows if the dev is real, if he's a Nigerian prince, if anon technology will be released, or if dafuq virus will blow up your computer. All people know is that the price is either going to increase or decrease by a lot, same as every other coin.
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blakely
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June 01, 2014, 02:46:52 PM |
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I don't think people are dumb enough to fall for this twice, are they? maybe I should buy some quick, ready to shit all over my fellow man. Then, I can feel like such an accomplishment - I just made 50 grand, immediately cash out in fiat and enjoy a week in the Bahamas then back to work, thinking up the next scam. This scene makes my stomach turn.
I've bought in and out of the XC market numerous times, it's a nice day trader coin. Nobody knows if the dev is real, if he's a Nigerian prince, if anon technology will be released, or if dafuq virus will blow up your computer. All people know is that the price is either going to increase or decrease by a lot, same as every other coin. I don't think there's much mystery here. Bank was the same scam, just much less sophisticated and thought out. What's that trading at now, 10 sat?
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coine_smithe
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June 01, 2014, 03:13:36 PM |
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I don't think people are dumb enough to fall for this twice, are they? maybe I should buy some quick, ready to shit all over my fellow man. Then, I can feel like such an accomplishment - I just made 50 grand, immediately cash out in fiat and enjoy a week in the Bahamas then back to work, thinking up the next scam. This scene makes my stomach turn.
I've bought in and out of the XC market numerous times, it's a nice day trader coin. Nobody knows if the dev is real, if he's a Nigerian prince, if anon technology will be released, or if dafuq virus will blow up your computer. All people know is that the price is either going to increase or decrease by a lot, same as every other coin. I don't think there's much mystery here. Bank was the same scam, just much less sophisticated and thought out. What's that trading at now, 10 sat? You're right bank was the same scam (if this is a scam). To be fair that can not be conclusively determined at this point, but that's the point of all this.
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blakely
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June 01, 2014, 03:26:15 PM |
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chaeplin has clearly shown drk and xc are no more anon than any other shtcoin. I find it comical that the only coins that can send transactions anon are the cryptonote coins and their prices are falling. No one really cares about the end result, all they care about is the hype so they can profit FIAT off of others. The only real value anon transactions have is people who want this seeking out these coins for use in real transactions, not this trading bs. I swear, it's bad enough people lost on XC, but buying/holding drk coins for $10+ ea? that is insanity.
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roede94105
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June 01, 2014, 03:31:01 PM |
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chaeplin has clearly shown drk and xc are no more anon than any other shtcoin. I find it comical that the only coins that can send transactions anon are the cryptonote coins and their prices are falling. No one really cares about the end result, all they care about is the hype so they can profit FIAT off of others. The only real value anon transactions have is people who want this seeking out these coins for use in real transactions, not this trading bs. I swear, it's bad enough people lost on XC, but buying/holding drk coins for $10+ ea? that is insanity.
did chaeplin really proved something about dark? genuine question
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anonymousxx1503
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June 01, 2014, 03:31:58 PM |
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chaeplin has clearly shown drk and xc are no more anon than any other shtcoin. I find it comical that the only coins that can send transactions anon are the cryptonote coins and their prices are falling. No one really cares about the end result, all they care about is the hype so they can profit FIAT off of others. The only real value anon transactions have is people who want this seeking out these coins for use in real transactions, not this trading bs. I swear, it's bad enough people lost on XC, but buying/holding drk coins for $10+ ea? that is insanity.
Have you looked at a Darksend transaction? It's way more advanced than XC is (only taking a few clicks to figure out who sent... wtf + the staking is broken). And there is a huge anon improvement coming in Darkcoin RC3 in a few weeks, it was just added to Bitfinex too.
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I'd like to thank eduffield and the other developers for this critically important evolution in virtual currency. DarkCoin is what bitcoin should have been. Some might call it "Bitcoin 2.0" but would do better by saying: "DarkCoin is digital cash." - Child Harold - February 28, 2014 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5424980#msg5424980
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anonymousxx1503
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June 01, 2014, 03:32:19 PM |
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chaeplin has clearly shown drk and xc are no more anon than any other shtcoin. I find it comical that the only coins that can send transactions anon are the cryptonote coins and their prices are falling. No one really cares about the end result, all they care about is the hype so they can profit FIAT off of others. The only real value anon transactions have is people who want this seeking out these coins for use in real transactions, not this trading bs. I swear, it's bad enough people lost on XC, but buying/holding drk coins for $10+ ea? that is insanity.
did chaeplin really proved something about dark? genuine question Yeah, he proved how much more elegant and anonymous Darksend is.
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I'd like to thank eduffield and the other developers for this critically important evolution in virtual currency. DarkCoin is what bitcoin should have been. Some might call it "Bitcoin 2.0" but would do better by saying: "DarkCoin is digital cash." - Child Harold - February 28, 2014 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5424980#msg5424980
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blakely
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June 01, 2014, 03:48:47 PM |
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chaeplin has clearly shown drk and xc are no more anon than any other shtcoin. I find it comical that the only coins that can send transactions anon are the cryptonote coins and their prices are falling. No one really cares about the end result, all they care about is the hype so they can profit FIAT off of others. The only real value anon transactions have is people who want this seeking out these coins for use in real transactions, not this trading bs. I swear, it's bad enough people lost on XC, but buying/holding drk coins for $10+ ea? that is insanity.
did chaeplin really proved something about dark? genuine question Yeah, he proved how much more elegant and anonymous Darksend is. An investigator could figure it out with one more transaction between the same 2 parties. Not only that, he can narrow it down pretty well with the first one. Imagine this: a REAL developer, you know - a pro not a rip off artist in cahoots with whales and exchanges, comes out with something that the real world finds useful. We all get in early and all get rich off of a REAL investment. No smoke/mirrors, no slaughters. That's the only reason I'm watching the scene, waiting and hoping for a coin that could actually take bitcoin's place. The rest of this is nothing more than amusement that I'm happy to say I'm not profiting from. The fucking vampires will get theirs in the end, kharma is for real.
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coine_smithe
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June 01, 2014, 04:06:08 PM |
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chaeplin has clearly shown drk and xc are no more anon than any other shtcoin. I find it comical that the only coins that can send transactions anon are the cryptonote coins and their prices are falling. No one really cares about the end result, all they care about is the hype so they can profit FIAT off of others. The only real value anon transactions have is people who want this seeking out these coins for use in real transactions, not this trading bs. I swear, it's bad enough people lost on XC, but buying/holding drk coins for $10+ ea? that is insanity.
did chaeplin really proved something about dark? genuine question Yeah, he proved how much more elegant and anonymous Darksend is. An investigator could figure it out with one more transaction between the same 2 parties. Not only that, he can narrow it down pretty well with the first one. Imagine this: a REAL developer, you know - a pro not a rip off artist in cahoots with whales and exchanges, comes out with something that the real world finds useful. We all get in early and all get rich off of a REAL investment. No smoke/mirrors, no slaughters. That's the only reason I'm watching the scene, waiting and hoping for a coin that could actually take bitcoin's place. The rest of this is nothing more than amusement that I'm happy to say I'm not profiting from. The fucking vampires will get theirs in the end, kharma is for real. Traders can just as easily lose money as they can gain it. There is nothing evil about trying to profit from market movements. You can earn peace of mind, I'll earn some money.
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blakely
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June 01, 2014, 04:10:10 PM |
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chaeplin has clearly shown drk and xc are no more anon than any other shtcoin. I find it comical that the only coins that can send transactions anon are the cryptonote coins and their prices are falling. No one really cares about the end result, all they care about is the hype so they can profit FIAT off of others. The only real value anon transactions have is people who want this seeking out these coins for use in real transactions, not this trading bs. I swear, it's bad enough people lost on XC, but buying/holding drk coins for $10+ ea? that is insanity.
did chaeplin really proved something about dark? genuine question Yeah, he proved how much more elegant and anonymous Darksend is. An investigator could figure it out with one more transaction between the same 2 parties. Not only that, he can narrow it down pretty well with the first one. Imagine this: a REAL developer, you know - a pro not a rip off artist in cahoots with whales and exchanges, comes out with something that the real world finds useful. We all get in early and all get rich off of a REAL investment. No smoke/mirrors, no slaughters. That's the only reason I'm watching the scene, waiting and hoping for a coin that could actually take bitcoin's place. The rest of this is nothing more than amusement that I'm happy to say I'm not profiting from. The fucking vampires will get theirs in the end, kharma is for real. Traders can just as easily lose money as they can gain it. There is nothing evil about trying to profit from market movements. You can earn peace of mind, I'll earn some money. I don't have a problem with your typical trader trying to play the market, but if you are in on the scam, pumping it up then dumping at a point pretty much agreed on with cronies, you are scum. Shit. Lower than excriment.
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