Unmoderated XC thread

[illodin]

There's so much irrelevant, confusing info surrounding all of this. Bottom line it for me: are XC transactions really anonymous or can they be traced? I'm not interested in future promises, I'm asking about right now, this minute.

What's the hurry?

[aleix]

There's so much irrelevant, confusing info surrounding all of this. Bottom line it for me: are XC transactions really anonymous or can they be traced? I'm not interested in future promises, I'm asking about right now, this minute.

What's the hurry?

+1

I think you must ask: Is the dev working in the right direction to create a true anon currency?

I really don't know, im not a member of XC community

[coine_smithe]

There's so much irrelevant, confusing info surrounding all of this. Bottom line it for me: are XC transactions really anonymous or can they be traced? I'm not interested in future promises, I'm asking about right now, this minute.

Monero is the best coin for anonymous transactions currently. It uses ring signatures and has been out for a couple months now. Darksend has also been functioning for months but it is not as sophisticated.

XC at launch had a central mixing node that is basically the same as a coin mixer site except you just connect right to the mixer from your wallet (very unsophisticated, requires trusting the dev). I believe it's currently disabled. That is probably what they were using for yesterday's test release. I think there is some misinformation that it was using "xnodes".

As a commenter said above, it is primarily the fact that loljosh developed the coin which makes me suspect that bold claims of coming up with this new xnode software are lies from atcsecure.

[ballzdeep]

There's so much irrelevant, confusing info surrounding all of this. Bottom line it for me: are XC transactions really anonymous or can they be traced? I'm not interested in future promises, I'm asking about right now, this minute.

Are DRK really anonymous or not ? I also hold DRK but havent seen a video or someone show that it works... But BIIIG focus on that XC has to work... lol

[chaeplin]

Can you show that DRK is anonymous ?

Check this.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5557138#msg5557138

DarkSend Beta Version 3 is Live!

Last night I figured out how to make DarkSend completely anonymous. What's even better is it's simple and elegant. Before I had said I thought I could get to 95%, I think now with this model I can get to 99%+.

So what's new? Check out the V3 announcement PDF: http://www.darkcoin.io/downloads/DarkSendv3.pdf

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg5556699#msg5556699

The first completely 100% anonymous darksend (Version 3 Beta)  

http://explorer.darkcoin.io/tx/56b3b95b76995d3e4d3107cf753c8496493010f625fc04d971e9262d74e6a5a5

Who pay who ?
No extra tx in another block. all happen in one block.

Code:

Short Link: http://explorer.darkcoin.io/t/4HZphGr8EQ

Hash: 56b3b95b76995d3e4d3107cf753c8496493010f625fc04d971e9262d74e6a5a5
Appeared in DarkCoin 29026 (2014-03-06 22:13:10)
Number of inputs: 3 (Jump to inputs)
Total in: 30
Number of outputs: 6 (Jump to outputs)
Total out: 29.997
Size: 658 bytes
Fee: 0.003
Raw transaction
Inputs

Index	Previous output	Amount	From address	ScriptSig
0	5cc7d00714...:1	10	n3nKty81M9mYPj4aer46CjtWUp6VKH8v2L	72:3045...7681 33:0224...b6d3
1	33941482c3...:1	10	micLoMBJzjgvYka79E6xSSAhogRcjh53mr	71:3044...9781 33:03e2...914d
2	1d896b3ec3...:1	10	msXfiW9BQQv4BDHeKX4XM7TyTXbb75WZiU	73:3046...6f81 33:0324...a4e9
Outputs

Index	Redeemed at input	Amount	To address	ScriptPubKey
0	1204b22a50...:0	3.12	n2nKxoTww1ajHsngTtyvjGr3UHL6qAmEKR	DUP HASH160 20:e942...dba3 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1	d6fe45f4ec...:1	2.379	n3izyMLjUq5toEnw1UiPrBRGnWd6DDTke8	DUP HASH160 20:f399...59bf EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
2	1de7fa855c...:9	6.879	mteweeY58NKe7WFvr2cUe9iuLyYWhEWpkr	DUP HASH160 20:901c...bab3 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
3	9de6cff7c3...:4	7.184	n3N3fTDRqhJknZUW8eUR7hrmHj9TLhVmyy	DUP HASH160 20:efa3...8431 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
4	d6fe45f4ec...:2	7.62	mhBYDyCggC3DqkNcTBgKKTp13euGCupsxW	DUP HASH160 20:1244...997c EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
5	3708282f9b...:2	2.815	mhBYDyCggC3DqkNcTBgKKTp13euGCupsxW	DUP HASH160 20:1244...997c EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG

XC ?
tx from here
http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/92a7e218f7df0e4eba5c346e66e12fd1aa66ab7abe490ce03694cf89b42fc92d
is included in 000003ba4410e9be27dee00053af64fb971642465b8f0f725a254fadd8dd21e5

Code:

Abe logo Transaction 92a7e218f7...c92d

Short Link: http://coincraft.info:2750/t/6ZLkvZhVVf

Hash: 92a7e218f7df0e4eba5c346e66e12fd1aa66ab7abe490ce03694cf89b42fc92d
Appeared in XCTestnet 1897 (2014-05-30 21:10:17)
Number of inputs: 2 (Jump to inputs)
Total in: 1.868174
Number of outputs: 2 (Jump to outputs)
Total out: 1.868154
Size: 378 bytes
Fee: 0.00002
Raw transaction
Inputs

Index	Previous output	Amount	From address	ScriptSig
0	c9bfdd9b22...:0	0.898795	mqb58nmjXvjy2r9ygpJY3mXLPss5CvBvK5	72:3045...3401 33:03eb...e5bd
1	f1928df7ff...:0	0.969379	moGRQxKg7QGUENPnDeErZjrHbSfuHNSoLu	72:3045...7e01 33:02dc...19b8
Outputs

Index	Redeemed at input	Amount	To address	ScriptPubKey
0	4f836ad73f...:5	0.696382	mthXNUYbqWBJz91zi1hUiDW4c3CgXDvtVK	DUP HASH160 20:9099...3dd6 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1	7f4b06ae9c...:0	1.171772	mzvu2b5Ya4GtFum9vCyvu4MAvLEgnJSsCW	DUP HASH160 20:d4f1...e3ae EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG

one more tx
http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/cff2fc4fce41e9264f9ca10dfc75d99096cf2d086f308312b241e79d45a2a90b

Code:

Hash: cff2fc4fce41e9264f9ca10dfc75d99096cf2d086f308312b241e79d45a2a90b
Appeared in XCTestnet 1897 (2014-05-30 21:10:17)
Number of inputs: 1 (Jump to inputs)
Total in: 2.06471
Number of outputs: 2 (Jump to outputs)
Total out: 2.0647
Size: 231 bytes
Fee: 0.00001
Raw transaction
Inputs

Index	Previous output	Amount	From address	ScriptSig
0	7bebb21aa1...:0	2.06471	msErg2uYSxKhuP3EYZDfY8h7or3YwK4HGF	73:3046...5001 33:0220...0281
Outputs

Index	Redeemed at input	Amount	To address	ScriptPubKey
0	9d4bb6b8e0...:0	1.236472	mutzKHtyABqn7dypWAJFKhXHktkoQgsAYX	DUP HASH160 20:9dbc...11e2 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1	745997e025...:2	0.828228	mzvu2b5Ya4GtFum9vCyvu4MAvLEgnJSsCW	DUP HASH160 20:d4f1...e3ae EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG

http://coincraft.info:2750/block/000003ba4410e9be27dee00053af64fb971642465b8f0f725a254fadd8dd21e5
next block
http://coincraft.info:2750/block/000002288102b797f213f374b6239e8e8b00facecdc6c2670921e6cf73492a04
next block
http://coincraft.info:2750/block/000003bb336107c9da7484670e0078982ecc1fba2cdd090015db5f2eadf3c951
next block
http://coincraft.info:2750/block/0000078ca7c04787f63d7e7b9a71512888df3f5553179b424b18a2d9b70bafbb
payment to real payee is here, n + 3 block.

http://coincraft.info:2750/tx/9cfcd36afea020fd2c47537c0c9f4f504e2cb9d035f325bb032f79bd5603da07

Code:

Transaction 9cfcd36afe...da07

Short Link: http://coincraft.info:2750/t/6x3ry5BGTH

Hash: 9cfcd36afea020fd2c47537c0c9f4f504e2cb9d035f325bb032f79bd5603da07
Appeared in XCTestnet 1900 (2014-05-30 21:14:08)
Number of inputs: 74 (Jump to inputs)
Total in: 2.00018
Number of outputs: 1 (Jump to outputs)
Total out: 1.99999
Size: 11004 bytes
Fee: 0.00019
Raw transaction
Inputs

Index	Previous output	Amount	From address	ScriptSig
0	e82a8f0087...:0	1.206515	mieseaoeqN1qb6Ssbg9P95PT2mjPhRjBBV	72:3045...3d01 33:029e...48ec
1	236312fe97...:1	0.046245	mqNcmXsjfG7mnKrMcyUTvbXGqHMre74iWM	72:3045...2d01 33:0362...93d0
2	a7e13828a1...:1	0.074474	n3wn5mJyT91L4usPHopo3wREyk4uUCNoaf	72:3045...8101 33:03eb...72a1
3	052f0c48f8...:1	0.041758	mzF9jizvkuFBwukobhZ9KMGfkCZmV5RLXR	72:3045...c301 33:034a...d4ac
4	6fae1c6ad2...:1	0.00002	n3UCvPeFek18TJVBfhFV846yoTqrTcXt3H	71:3044...8001 33:0292...0bef
5	7292f036ce...:1	0.00002	n3UCvPeFek18TJVBfhFV846yoTqrTcXt3H	71:3044...e001 33:0292...0bef
6	ef0d7c7c5c...:1	0.00002	n3UCvPeFek18TJVBfhFV846yoTqrTcXt3H	72:3045...fd01 33:0292...0bef
7	ca9f69d30f...:1	0.00002	n3UCvPeFek18TJVBfhFV846yoTqrTcXt3H	73:3046...cf01 33:0292...0bef
8	a0b145f329...:1	0.00002	n3UCvPeFek18TJVBfhFV846yoTqrTcXt3H	71:3044...0501 33:0292...0bef
9	102baad281...:1	0.00002	n3UCvPeFek18TJVBfhFV846yoTqrTcXt3H	72:3045...2d01 33:0292...0bef
10	99f531ce60...:1	0.00002	n3UCvPeFek18TJVBfhFV846yoTqrTcXt3H	72:3045...8c01 33:0292...0bef
11	5eeb5af391...:1	0.00002	n3UCvPeFek18TJVBfhFV846yoTqrTcXt3H	72:3045...a801 33:0292...0bef
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29	178212cb7f...:1	0.00002	n3UCvPeFek18TJVBfhFV846yoTqrTcXt3H	73:3046...b501 33:0292...0bef
30	af28698707...:1	0.00002	n3UCvPeFek18TJVBfhFV846yoTqrTcXt3H	72:3045...b301 33:0292...0bef
31	1fac037a7d...:1	0.00002	n3UCvPeFek18TJVBfhFV846yoTqrTcXt3H	71:3044...8901 33:0292...0bef
32	4b31f0436e...:1	0.00002	n3UCvPeFek18TJVBfhFV846yoTqrTcXt3H	72:3045...ee01 33:0292...0bef
33	d4bf25a1f3...:1	0.00002	n3UCvPeFek18TJVBfhFV846yoTqrTcXt3H	72:3045...6001 33:0292...0bef
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37	69bc0aab2b...:1	0.00002	n3UCvPeFek18TJVBfhFV846yoTqrTcXt3H	71:3044...9f01 33:0292...0bef
38	75ae1f1f35...:1	0.00002	n3UCvPeFek18TJVBfhFV846yoTqrTcXt3H	73:3046...cc01 33:0292...0bef
39	bdd9b18d50...:1	0.00002	n3UCvPeFek18TJVBfhFV846yoTqrTcXt3H	72:3045...0101 33:0292...0bef
40	bafd5ee5a9...:1	0.00002	n3UCvPeFek18TJVBfhFV846yoTqrTcXt3H	73:3046...a301 33:0292...0bef
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64	47804b8587...:1	0.0001	miNs4fwT9U2MbDSyyYo7mgCR24TB8fqLjr	72:3045...6101 33:0373...38db
65	87769ae020...:1	0.086824	n3RaEhEWUQBRVHbpqKzMvAFFg7hzLZzGgv	72:3045...b301 33:0376...46ee
66	a06b12e53c...:1	0.00002	n3UCvPeFek18TJVBfhFV846yoTqrTcXt3H	71:3044...7801 33:0292...0bef
67	10fed6e2e9...:1	0.00002	n3UCvPeFek18TJVBfhFV846yoTqrTcXt3H	72:3045...2101 33:0292...0bef
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69	2934ff3659...:1	0.00002	n3UCvPeFek18TJVBfhFV846yoTqrTcXt3H	71:3044...5601 33:0292...0bef
70	5e6b7d23bd...:1	0.00002	n3UCvPeFek18TJVBfhFV846yoTqrTcXt3H	71:3044...b001 33:0292...0bef
71	dda27ab2b1...:1	0.00002	n3UCvPeFek18TJVBfhFV846yoTqrTcXt3H	73:3046...ae01 33:0292...0bef
72	4d34f7d3b2...:1	0.00002	n3UCvPeFek18TJVBfhFV846yoTqrTcXt3H	71:3044...3001 33:0292...0bef
73	dd006c1fc0...:1	0.00002	n3UCvPeFek18TJVBfhFV846yoTqrTcXt3H	73:3046...c801 33:0292...0bef
Outputs

Index	Redeemed at input	Amount	To address	ScriptPubKey
0	Not yet redeemed	1.99999	msJQeu3mJZDZM3nRZBddHhR3J3DGMzryow	DUP HASH160 20:8142...f8a4 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG

Dev anounnced this

The wallet release is on track for tonight.

It will be mainnet ready, and have the XNode code in the wallet.  It is fully decentralized.  

Just to clarify somethings as well - REV2 will have a solution to the bad actor problem.  Using a dynamic learning trust system, the wallet will choose the trusted nodes over the bad actor nodes.  This also will be tied into the fee system so it will also be incentive based.  

I will also be laying out a very high level roadmap of what’s next, what’s coming and long term plans.
As part of this process, I will be putting together a complete business plan, which will be release later this week.  


Also if your running an XNODE your 1000 XC's will not stake.  There is a feature in the wallet - reserve balance - which basically prevents those coins from staking.  Xnodes will need to use this feature so that the coins are available for the Xpool.


ATCSECURE

What the meaning of no staking == Xnode use your money to send real payee, after receiving input from user X.
No addreess to time gap. 2 ~ 3 blocks.......

[blakely]

There's so much irrelevant, confusing info surrounding all of this. Bottom line it for me: are XC transactions really anonymous or can they be traced? I'm not interested in future promises, I'm asking about right now, this minute.

What's the hurry?

That is the answer of one who is a scammer or one who has been scammed. The Dev promised it was anon now, if it's not the whole thing is a lie.
I take it that' a no, I feel really sorry for anyone who lost money on this.

[chaeplin]

Dev anoounced this also

The wallet release is on track for tonight.

It will be mainnet ready, and have the XNode code in the wallet.  It is fully decentralized.  

Just to clarify somethings as well - REV2 will have a solution to the bad actor problem.  Using a dynamic learning trust system, the wallet will choose the trusted nodes over the bad actor nodes.  This also will be tied into the fee system so it will also be incentive based.  

I will also be laying out a very high level roadmap of what’s next, what’s coming and long term plans.
As part of this process, I will be putting together a complete business plan, which will be release later this week.  


Also if your running an XNODE your 1000 XC's will not stake.  There is a feature in the wallet - reserve balance - which basically prevents those coins from staking.  Xnodes will need to use this feature so that the coins are available for the Xpool.


ATCSECURE

As I stated in the beginning, a primary focus will be bringing XC to the retail marketplace and putting XC on the Point of Sale/DEBIT/VISA Network... These features will be added to the wallet, and as part of the Mobile Android wallet as well...  The mobile wallet will also have NFC support for P2P transfers mobile to mobile... all of this will be in the roadmap coming out tonight

Oh with this ??






.. Well he can hire someone to fix ..

[coine_smithe]

Dev anoounced this also

The wallet release is on track for tonight.

It will be mainnet ready, and have the XNode code in the wallet.  It is fully decentralized.  

Just to clarify somethings as well - REV2 will have a solution to the bad actor problem.  Using a dynamic learning trust system, the wallet will choose the trusted nodes over the bad actor nodes.  This also will be tied into the fee system so it will also be incentive based.  

I will also be laying out a very high level roadmap of what’s next, what’s coming and long term plans.
As part of this process, I will be putting together a complete business plan, which will be release later this week.  


Also if your running an XNODE your 1000 XC's will not stake.  There is a feature in the wallet - reserve balance - which basically prevents those coins from staking.  Xnodes will need to use this feature so that the coins are available for the Xpool.


ATCSECURE

As I stated in the beginning, a primary focus will be bringing XC to the retail marketplace and putting XC on the Point of Sale/DEBIT/VISA Network... These features will be added to the wallet, and as part of the Mobile Android wallet as well...  The mobile wallet will also have NFC support for P2P transfers mobile to mobile... all of this will be in the roadmap coming out tonight

Oh with this ??






.. Well he can hire someone to fix ..

People are questioning his promises, the price is tanking, trust is waning, and suddenly instead of in 3 weeks he is already ready with anon xnode implementation? My alarm bells are ringing. This reeks of pump and dump.

[blakely]

I don't think people are dumb enough to fall for this twice, are they? maybe I should buy some quick, ready to shit all over my fellow man. Then, I can feel like such an accomplishment - I just made 50 grand, immediately cash out in fiat and enjoy a week in the Bahamas then back to work, thinking up the next scam.
This scene makes my stomach turn.

[coine_smithe]

I don't think people are dumb enough to fall for this twice, are they? maybe I should buy some quick, ready to shit all over my fellow man. Then, I can feel like such an accomplishment - I just made 50 grand, immediately cash out in fiat and enjoy a week in the Bahamas then back to work, thinking up the next scam.
This scene makes my stomach turn.

Thankfully it looks like whatever support XC has today will be overshadowed by Darkcoin's. Justice will prevail.

Looks like Darkcoin is on Bitfinex orderbook:

https://www.bitfinex.com/pages/order_book/?pair=drkbtc

Note: I am not a fan of any particular digital currency. I am simply a day trader and opportunist trying to make the most money. I am simply rooting for whichever technology is the best. I currently think that is Monero.

[r0ach]

I don't think people are dumb enough to fall for this twice, are they? maybe I should buy some quick, ready to shit all over my fellow man. Then, I can feel like such an accomplishment - I just made 50 grand, immediately cash out in fiat and enjoy a week in the Bahamas then back to work, thinking up the next scam.
This scene makes my stomach turn.

I've bought in and out of the XC market numerous times, it's a nice day trader coin.  Nobody knows if the dev is real, if he's a Nigerian prince, if anon technology will be released, or if dafuq virus will blow up your computer.  All people know is that the price is either going to increase or decrease by a lot, same as every other coin.

[blakely]

I don't think people are dumb enough to fall for this twice, are they? maybe I should buy some quick, ready to shit all over my fellow man. Then, I can feel like such an accomplishment - I just made 50 grand, immediately cash out in fiat and enjoy a week in the Bahamas then back to work, thinking up the next scam.
This scene makes my stomach turn.

I've bought in and out of the XC market numerous times, it's a nice day trader coin.  Nobody knows if the dev is real, if he's a Nigerian prince, if anon technology will be released, or if dafuq virus will blow up your computer.  All people know is that the price is either going to increase or decrease by a lot, same as every other coin.

I don't think there's much mystery here. Bank was the same scam, just much less sophisticated and thought out. What's that trading at now, 10 sat?

[coine_smithe]

I don't think people are dumb enough to fall for this twice, are they? maybe I should buy some quick, ready to shit all over my fellow man. Then, I can feel like such an accomplishment - I just made 50 grand, immediately cash out in fiat and enjoy a week in the Bahamas then back to work, thinking up the next scam.
This scene makes my stomach turn.

I've bought in and out of the XC market numerous times, it's a nice day trader coin.  Nobody knows if the dev is real, if he's a Nigerian prince, if anon technology will be released, or if dafuq virus will blow up your computer.  All people know is that the price is either going to increase or decrease by a lot, same as every other coin.

I don't think there's much mystery here. Bank was the same scam, just much less sophisticated and thought out. What's that trading at now, 10 sat?

You're right bank was the same scam (if this is a scam). To be fair that can not be conclusively determined at this point, but that's the point of all this.

[blakely]

chaeplin has clearly shown drk and xc are no more anon than any other shtcoin. I find it comical that the only coins that can send transactions anon are the cryptonote coins and their prices are falling. No one really cares about the end result, all they care about is the hype so they can profit FIAT off of others. The only real value anon transactions have is people who want this seeking out these coins for use in real transactions, not this trading bs.
I swear, it's bad enough people lost on XC, but buying/holding drk coins for $10+ ea? that is insanity.

[roede94105]

chaeplin has clearly shown drk and xc are no more anon than any other shtcoin. I find it comical that the only coins that can send transactions anon are the cryptonote coins and their prices are falling. No one really cares about the end result, all they care about is the hype so they can profit FIAT off of others. The only real value anon transactions have is people who want this seeking out these coins for use in real transactions, not this trading bs.
I swear, it's bad enough people lost on XC, but buying/holding drk coins for $10+ ea? that is insanity.

did chaeplin really proved something about dark? genuine question

[anonymousxx1503]

chaeplin has clearly shown drk and xc are no more anon than any other shtcoin. I find it comical that the only coins that can send transactions anon are the cryptonote coins and their prices are falling. No one really cares about the end result, all they care about is the hype so they can profit FIAT off of others. The only real value anon transactions have is people who want this seeking out these coins for use in real transactions, not this trading bs.
I swear, it's bad enough people lost on XC, but buying/holding drk coins for $10+ ea? that is insanity.

Have you looked at a Darksend transaction? It's way more advanced than XC is (only taking a few clicks to figure out who sent... wtf + the staking is broken). And there is a huge anon improvement coming in Darkcoin RC3 in a few weeks, it was just added to Bitfinex too.

[anonymousxx1503]

chaeplin has clearly shown drk and xc are no more anon than any other shtcoin. I find it comical that the only coins that can send transactions anon are the cryptonote coins and their prices are falling. No one really cares about the end result, all they care about is the hype so they can profit FIAT off of others. The only real value anon transactions have is people who want this seeking out these coins for use in real transactions, not this trading bs.
I swear, it's bad enough people lost on XC, but buying/holding drk coins for $10+ ea? that is insanity.

did chaeplin really proved something about dark? genuine question

Yeah, he proved how much more elegant and anonymous Darksend is.

[blakely]

chaeplin has clearly shown drk and xc are no more anon than any other shtcoin. I find it comical that the only coins that can send transactions anon are the cryptonote coins and their prices are falling. No one really cares about the end result, all they care about is the hype so they can profit FIAT off of others. The only real value anon transactions have is people who want this seeking out these coins for use in real transactions, not this trading bs.
I swear, it's bad enough people lost on XC, but buying/holding drk coins for $10+ ea? that is insanity.

did chaeplin really proved something about dark? genuine question

Yeah, he proved how much more elegant and anonymous Darksend is.

An investigator could figure it out with one more transaction between the same 2 parties. Not only that, he can narrow it down pretty well with the first one.

Imagine this: a REAL developer, you know - a pro not a rip off artist in cahoots with whales and exchanges, comes out with something that the real world finds useful. We all get in early and all get rich off of a REAL investment. No smoke/mirrors, no slaughters. That's the only reason I'm watching the scene, waiting and hoping for a coin that could actually take bitcoin's place. The rest of this is nothing more than amusement that I'm happy to say I'm not profiting from. The fucking vampires will get theirs in the end, kharma is for real.

[coine_smithe]

chaeplin has clearly shown drk and xc are no more anon than any other shtcoin. I find it comical that the only coins that can send transactions anon are the cryptonote coins and their prices are falling. No one really cares about the end result, all they care about is the hype so they can profit FIAT off of others. The only real value anon transactions have is people who want this seeking out these coins for use in real transactions, not this trading bs.
I swear, it's bad enough people lost on XC, but buying/holding drk coins for $10+ ea? that is insanity.

did chaeplin really proved something about dark? genuine question

Yeah, he proved how much more elegant and anonymous Darksend is.

An investigator could figure it out with one more transaction between the same 2 parties. Not only that, he can narrow it down pretty well with the first one.

Imagine this: a REAL developer, you know - a pro not a rip off artist in cahoots with whales and exchanges, comes out with something that the real world finds useful. We all get in early and all get rich off of a REAL investment. No smoke/mirrors, no slaughters. That's the only reason I'm watching the scene, waiting and hoping for a coin that could actually take bitcoin's place. The rest of this is nothing more than amusement that I'm happy to say I'm not profiting from. The fucking vampires will get theirs in the end, kharma is for real.

Traders can just as easily lose money as they can gain it. There is nothing evil about trying to profit from market movements. You can earn peace of mind, I'll earn some money.

[blakely]

chaeplin has clearly shown drk and xc are no more anon than any other shtcoin. I find it comical that the only coins that can send transactions anon are the cryptonote coins and their prices are falling. No one really cares about the end result, all they care about is the hype so they can profit FIAT off of others. The only real value anon transactions have is people who want this seeking out these coins for use in real transactions, not this trading bs.
I swear, it's bad enough people lost on XC, but buying/holding drk coins for $10+ ea? that is insanity.

did chaeplin really proved something about dark? genuine question

Yeah, he proved how much more elegant and anonymous Darksend is.

An investigator could figure it out with one more transaction between the same 2 parties. Not only that, he can narrow it down pretty well with the first one.

Imagine this: a REAL developer, you know - a pro not a rip off artist in cahoots with whales and exchanges, comes out with something that the real world finds useful. We all get in early and all get rich off of a REAL investment. No smoke/mirrors, no slaughters. That's the only reason I'm watching the scene, waiting and hoping for a coin that could actually take bitcoin's place. The rest of this is nothing more than amusement that I'm happy to say I'm not profiting from. The fucking vampires will get theirs in the end, kharma is for real.

Traders can just as easily lose money as they can gain it. There is nothing evil about trying to profit from market movements. You can earn peace of mind, I'll earn some money.

I don't have a problem with your typical trader trying to play the market, but if you are in on the scam, pumping it up then dumping at a point pretty much agreed on with cronies, you are scum. Shit. Lower than excriment.