Unmoderated XC thread

[chaeplin]

ok people listen...

I will pay 0.1 BTC to ONE person who FIRSTLY identify sender address called "1" until tomorrow 10:00 AM NY TIME (EDT)

tomorrow 10:00 AM NY TIME (EDT) or a bit later I post some screenshots of my wallet and transactions...

see what happens
time went... tic tic tic

and btw sorry for my bad English if my English is bad =)

it's working people wooohooo!  
I send 1 real XC to address XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 using:

Code:

walletpassphrase <my password> 60
sendfrommixer "1" XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 1.0

now try to find my fucking sender address  

dev...
you are a saint  

called "1" is account, not address.
You don't know how to check given address is yours.

Learn

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Accounts_explained

Code:

Sending
The sendfrom method sends coins and debits the specified account. 
It does **not** change Bitcoin's algorithm for selecting which coins in the wallet are sent
-- you should think of the coins in the wallet as being mixed together 
when they are received. There is no way to ask Bitcoin to "create a payment transaction 
using the coins received from these previously received transactions" 
without using the raw transactions API(which is not part of the account system.)

The sendtoaddress method works like sendfrom, but always debits the default account.

validateaddress is command to check.

What a delusional smuck...how is cognitive dissonance working?

The bounty was not for "who finds an error in the code that successfully initiated a transaction that was later successfully received"

"1" is address label btw.

"You don't know how to check given address is yours."   What..? I....wow

Care to fight for the bounty ?

"You don't know how to check given address is yours."  
Ah.. "given address" is not meaning of 'identify sender address called "1"'
Input address in blockchain is not the address shown by QT.



QT named it Label.
Cli coind call it account.

Code:

user@sv2:~> x11coind help | grep label
importprivkey <X11Coinprivkey> [label]

user@sv2:~> x11coind help | grep account
addmultisigaddress <nrequired> <'["key","key"]'> [account]
getaccount <X11Coinaddress>
getaccountaddress <account>
getaddressesbyaccount <account>
getbalance [account] [minconf=1]
getnewaddress [account]
getnewpubkey [account]
getreceivedbyaccount <account> [minconf=1]
listaccounts [minconf=1]
listreceivedbyaccount [minconf=1] [includeempty=false]
listtransactions [account] [count=10] [from=0]
move <fromaccount> <toaccount> <amount> [minconf=1] [comment]
sendfrom <fromaccount> <toX11Coinaddress> <amount> [minconf=1] [comment] [comment-to]
sendmany <fromaccount> {address:amount,...} [minconf=1] [comment]
setaccount <X11Coinaddress> <account>

Code:

Accounts and Receiving Addresses
Each account is associated with zero or more receiving addresses, and every receiving address is associated with exactly one account. Coins sent to a receiving address in the wallet are credited to the associated account.

Accounts are associated with receiving addresses by using the getaccountaddress, getnewaddress or setaccount methods.

getaccountaddress will return the same address until coins are received on that address; once coins have been received, it will generate and return a new address.

getnewaddress always generates and returns a new address.

setaccount changes the account associated with an existing address. Coins previously received on that address (if any) will be debited from the previous account's balance and credited to the address' new account. Note that doing so may make the previous account's balance negative.

Use the getaddressesbyaccount method to list all addresses associated with an account.

I hvae found more nice command.

getaddressesbyaccount : to list all addresses associated with an account

getaddressesbyaccount <account>

[Propulsion]

ok people listen...

I will pay 0.1 BTC to ONE person who FIRSTLY identify sender address called "1" until tomorrow 10:00 AM NY TIME (EDT)

tomorrow 10:00 AM NY TIME (EDT) or a bit later I post some screenshots of my wallet and transactions...

see what happens
time went... tic tic tic

and btw sorry for my bad English if my English is bad =)

it's working people wooohooo!  
I send 1 real XC to address XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 using:

Code:

walletpassphrase <my password> 60
sendfrommixer "1" XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 1.0

now try to find my fucking sender address  

dev...
you are a saint  

Good challenge. Put money in escrow to encourage people to take on challenge

Here lies the problem with the xc community they have closed themselves off from tough questions and even debate with there self moderated thread. This coin will not succeed at all if it isn't even allowed to be challenged and examined.

You can not ostracize a currency from hard questions! Moderation is a huge step in the wrong direction for everyone.
If you are smart you should be asking "How does it work?"

The above bet is impossible to trace because there is no originating address. The better only lists XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 which is the recieving address. (Only half of the transaction)

If you really want the challenge to be considered, list what address it came from aka account "1".

[ballzdeep]

Just playing devil's advocate...let's say the basic structure of the POS/POW coin WAS made by loljosh, in the end if the product works does it really matter? I could care less if the keebler elves cobbled it together as long as atcsecure built a working anonymous system. I personally see nothing wrong with paying someone to do the grunt work if you can focus on the more advanced functionsof the coin, Even Evan is admitting he needs help and is now looking for qualified devs to join the Dark team but nobody spreads FUD about that.

Then why doesn't atcsecure address the issue directly like you just did. If he said exactly what you just said people would trust him more.

Guess its none of your business, just as evan admits faulty diff on day one and doesn´t relaunch, never answer on that, none of my business.....

[slapper]

XC got out in a smart way  from POW game ... when X11 FPGA's start to rape everything and destroy the idea of ANTI ASICS .
lets see how fast the marketing  will go  on.

They got out because apparently X11 FPGAs and X11 ASICs were raping it.

I hear Satoshi and Evan developed those within 2 days of making X11 algo. SHA256 and Scrypt took only 2-3 years but then Satoshi started blowing some good weed and X11 FPGA and ASICs were born purely from the smoke.

[blakely]

ok people listen...

I will pay 0.1 BTC to ONE person who FIRSTLY identify sender address called "1" until tomorrow 10:00 AM NY TIME (EDT)

tomorrow 10:00 AM NY TIME (EDT) or a bit later I post some screenshots of my wallet and transactions...

see what happens
time went... tic tic tic

and btw sorry for my bad English if my English is bad =)

it's working people wooohooo!  
I send 1 real XC to address XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 using:

Code:

walletpassphrase <my password> 60
sendfrommixer "1" XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 1.0

now try to find my fucking sender address  

dev...
you are a saint  

Good challenge. Put money in escrow to encourage people to take on challenge

Here lies the problem with the xc community they have closed themselves off from tough questions and even debate with there self moderated thread. This coin will not succeed at all if it isn't even allowed to be challenged and examined.

You can not ostracize a currency from hard questions! Moderation is a huge step in the wrong direction for everyone.
If you are smart you should be asking "How does it work?"

The above bet is impossible to trace because there is no originating address. The better only lists XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 which is the recieving address. (Only half of the transaction)

If you really want the challenge to be considered, list what address it came from aka account "1".

I don't get your point. If it's impossible to figure out the originating address with only the receiving address than anon is working, no? what can be learned from the address and amount, can you get the transaction id and if so what does it tell you?
So many comments in this thread that aren't discussing the only thing that matters. Who the hell cares who made the coin itslef, let's get to the fucking point and discuss the level of anonymity.

[Propulsion]

ok people listen...

I will pay 0.1 BTC to ONE person who FIRSTLY identify sender address called "1" until tomorrow 10:00 AM NY TIME (EDT)

tomorrow 10:00 AM NY TIME (EDT) or a bit later I post some screenshots of my wallet and transactions...

see what happens
time went... tic tic tic

and btw sorry for my bad English if my English is bad =)

it's working people wooohooo!  
I send 1 real XC to address XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 using:

Code:

walletpassphrase <my password> 60
sendfrommixer "1" XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 1.0

now try to find my fucking sender address  

dev...
you are a saint  

Good challenge. Put money in escrow to encourage people to take on challenge

Here lies the problem with the xc community they have closed themselves off from tough questions and even debate with there self moderated thread. This coin will not succeed at all if it isn't even allowed to be challenged and examined.

You can not ostracize a currency from hard questions! Moderation is a huge step in the wrong direction for everyone.
If you are smart you should be asking "How does it work?"

The above bet is impossible to trace because there is no originating address. The better only lists XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 which is the recieving address. (Only half of the transaction)

If you really want the challenge to be considered, list what address it came from aka account "1".

I don't get your point. If it's impossible to figure out the originating address with only the receiving address than anon is working, no?

No the point is, he never listed which address he sent it from.
He only listed the label. It's the equivalent of saying "trace my deposit from my account (Bought from Exchange) to address XXXXX"

To even try to trace it, you need to know the address (Bought from Exchange)

[roede94105]

ok people listen...

I will pay 0.1 BTC to ONE person who FIRSTLY identify sender address called "1" until tomorrow 10:00 AM NY TIME (EDT)

tomorrow 10:00 AM NY TIME (EDT) or a bit later I post some screenshots of my wallet and transactions...

see what happens
time went... tic tic tic

and btw sorry for my bad English if my English is bad =)

it's working people wooohooo!  
I send 1 real XC to address XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 using:

Code:

walletpassphrase <my password> 60
sendfrommixer "1" XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 1.0

now try to find my fucking sender address  

dev...
you are a saint  

Good challenge. Put money in escrow to encourage people to take on challenge

Here lies the problem with the xc community they have closed themselves off from tough questions and even debate with there self moderated thread. This coin will not succeed at all if it isn't even allowed to be challenged and examined.

You can not ostracize a currency from hard questions! Moderation is a huge step in the wrong direction for everyone.
If you are smart you should be asking "How does it work?"

The above bet is impossible to trace because there is no originating address. The better only lists XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 which is the recieving address. (Only half of the transaction)

If you really want the challenge to be considered, list what address it came from aka account "1".

I don't get your point. If it's impossible to figure out the originating address with only the receiving address than anon is working, no? what can be learned from the address and amount, can you get the transaction id and if so what does it tell you?
So many comments in this thread that aren't discussing the only thing that matters. Who the hell cares who made the coin itslef, let's get to the fucking point and discuss the level of anonymity.

the goal is to have sending and receiving address and see if you're able to link them.

[Joshuar]

ok people listen...

I will pay 0.1 BTC to ONE person who FIRSTLY identify sender address called "1" until tomorrow 10:00 AM NY TIME (EDT)

tomorrow 10:00 AM NY TIME (EDT) or a bit later I post some screenshots of my wallet and transactions...

see what happens
time went... tic tic tic

and btw sorry for my bad English if my English is bad =)

it's working people wooohooo!  
I send 1 real XC to address XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 using:

Code:

walletpassphrase <my password> 60
sendfrommixer "1" XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 1.0

now try to find my fucking sender address  

dev...
you are a saint  

Good challenge. Put money in escrow to encourage people to take on challenge

Here lies the problem with the xc community they have closed themselves off from tough questions and even debate with there self moderated thread. This coin will not succeed at all if it isn't even allowed to be challenged and examined.

You can not ostracize a currency from hard questions! Moderation is a huge step in the wrong direction for everyone.
If you are smart you should be asking "How does it work?"

The above bet is impossible to trace because there is no originating address. The better only lists XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 which is the recieving address. (Only half of the transaction)

If you really want the challenge to be considered, list what address it came from aka account "1".

I don't get your point. If it's impossible to figure out the originating address with only the receiving address than anon is working, no?

No the point is, he never listed which address he sent it from.
He only listed the label. It's the equivalent of saying "trace my deposit from my account (Bought from Exchange) to address XXXXX"

To even try to trace it, you need to know the address (Bought from Exchange)

Exactly this^

[chaeplin]

ok people listen...

I will pay 0.1 BTC to ONE person who FIRSTLY identify sender address called "1" until tomorrow 10:00 AM NY TIME (EDT)

tomorrow 10:00 AM NY TIME (EDT) or a bit later I post some screenshots of my wallet and transactions...

see what happens
time went... tic tic tic

and btw sorry for my bad English if my English is bad =)

it's working people wooohooo!  
I send 1 real XC to address XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 using:

Code:

walletpassphrase <my password> 60
sendfrommixer "1" XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 1.0

now try to find my fucking sender address  

dev...
you are a saint  

Good challenge. Put money in escrow to encourage people to take on challenge

Here lies the problem with the xc community they have closed themselves off from tough questions and even debate with there self moderated thread. This coin will not succeed at all if it isn't even allowed to be challenged and examined.

You can not ostracize a currency from hard questions! Moderation is a huge step in the wrong direction for everyone.
If you are smart you should be asking "How does it work?"

The above bet is impossible to trace because there is no originating address. The better only lists XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 which is the recieving address. (Only half of the transaction)

If you really want the challenge to be considered, list what address it came from aka account "1".

I don't get your point. If it's impossible to figure out the originating address with only the receiving address than anon is working, no? what can be learned from the address and amount, can you get the transaction id and if so what does it tell you?
So many comments in this thread that aren't discussing the only thing that matters. Who the hell cares who made the coin itslef, let's get to the fucking point and discuss the level of anonymity.

Normally Input address in blockchain is not the address shown by QT.

Use your QT, do getaddressesbyaccount

[blakely]

ok people listen...

I will pay 0.1 BTC to ONE person who FIRSTLY identify sender address called "1" until tomorrow 10:00 AM NY TIME (EDT)

tomorrow 10:00 AM NY TIME (EDT) or a bit later I post some screenshots of my wallet and transactions...

see what happens
time went... tic tic tic

and btw sorry for my bad English if my English is bad =)

it's working people wooohooo!  
I send 1 real XC to address XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 using:

Code:

walletpassphrase <my password> 60
sendfrommixer "1" XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 1.0

now try to find my fucking sender address  

dev...
you are a saint  

Good challenge. Put money in escrow to encourage people to take on challenge

Here lies the problem with the xc community they have closed themselves off from tough questions and even debate with there self moderated thread. This coin will not succeed at all if it isn't even allowed to be challenged and examined.

You can not ostracize a currency from hard questions! Moderation is a huge step in the wrong direction for everyone.
If you are smart you should be asking "How does it work?"

The above bet is impossible to trace because there is no originating address. The better only lists XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 which is the recieving address. (Only half of the transaction)

If you really want the challenge to be considered, list what address it came from aka account "1".

I don't get your point. If it's impossible to figure out the originating address with only the receiving address than anon is working, no?

No the point is, he never listed which address he sent it from.
He only listed the label. It's the equivalent of saying "trace my deposit from my account (Bought from Exchange) to address XXXXX"

To even try to trace it, you need to know the address (Bought from Exchange)

Are non anonymous coins any different - ie, would you be able to trace doge with just the receiving address?
The vast majority of traders really don't understand any of this, it would be great for someone to spell it out simply where we are at.

[Joshuar]

ok people listen...

I will pay 0.1 BTC to ONE person who FIRSTLY identify sender address called "1" until tomorrow 10:00 AM NY TIME (EDT)

tomorrow 10:00 AM NY TIME (EDT) or a bit later I post some screenshots of my wallet and transactions...

see what happens
time went... tic tic tic

and btw sorry for my bad English if my English is bad =)

it's working people wooohooo!  
I send 1 real XC to address XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 using:

Code:

walletpassphrase <my password> 60
sendfrommixer "1" XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 1.0

now try to find my fucking sender address  

dev...
you are a saint  

Good challenge. Put money in escrow to encourage people to take on challenge

Here lies the problem with the xc community they have closed themselves off from tough questions and even debate with there self moderated thread. This coin will not succeed at all if it isn't even allowed to be challenged and examined.

You can not ostracize a currency from hard questions! Moderation is a huge step in the wrong direction for everyone.
If you are smart you should be asking "How does it work?"

The above bet is impossible to trace because there is no originating address. The better only lists XSQYYwgVVYoGyc23NCTcCvQRCNiidarU71 which is the recieving address. (Only half of the transaction)

If you really want the challenge to be considered, list what address it came from aka account "1".

I don't get your point. If it's impossible to figure out the originating address with only the receiving address than anon is working, no?

No the point is, he never listed which address he sent it from.
He only listed the label. It's the equivalent of saying "trace my deposit from my account (Bought from Exchange) to address XXXXX"

To even try to trace it, you need to know the address (Bought from Exchange)

Are non anonymous coins any different - ie, would you be able to trace doge with just the receiving address?
The vast majority of traders really don't understand any of this, it would be great for someone to spell it out simply where we are at.

Yes you would be able to trace doge with just the recieving address as all transactions are forever included in it's blockchain so you can see who sent what and who recieved what, just like bitcoin's is etc etc.

[blakely]

So XC is at least semi anonymous. The other day Chaeplin showed he could trace transactions with both addresses, has there been any changes to the XC wallet? or is that where we are at right now..

[Propulsion]

So XC is at least semi anonymous. The other day Chaeplin showed he could trace transactions with both addresses, has there been any changes to the XC wallet? or is that where we are at right now..

At the moment this coin isn't anonymous at all.
The dev hasn't released any technical documents on how he plans to make it work.
The distribution of coins is awful. Source: http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/#!rich

The person who posted the bet is refusing to publish the account "1" address. A forum member has already broken the "anonymity" of the coin once. To see if any developments have been made, that above address needs to be published.

Seriously, if you can not afford to lose money, withdrawal your capital from this crypto.

[ballzdeep]

So XC is at least semi anonymous. The other day Chaeplin showed he could trace transactions with both addresses, has there been any changes to the XC wallet? or is that where we are at right now..

At the moment this coin isn't anonymous at all.
The dev hasn't released any technical documents on how he plans to make it work.
The distribution of coins is awful. Source: http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/#!rich

The person who posted the bet is refusing to publish the account "1" address. A forum member has already broken the "anonymity" of the coin once. To see if any developments have been made, that above address needs to be published.

Seriously, if you can not afford to lose money, withdrawal your capital from this crypto.

So is darksend anonymous ? can you test it somehow ?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/227369807/Bitcoin-Coinjoin-Not-Anonymous-v01

[chaeplin]

So XC is at least semi anonymous. The other day Chaeplin showed he could trace transactions with both addresses, has there been any changes to the XC wallet? or is that where we are at right now..

At the moment this coin isn't anonymous at all.
The dev hasn't released any technical documents on how he plans to make it work.
The distribution of coins is awful. Source: http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/#!rich

The person who posted the bet is refusing to publish the account "1" address. A forum member has already broken the "anonymity" of the coin once. To see if any developments have been made, that above address needs to be published.

Seriously, if you can not afford to lose money, withdrawal your capital from this crypto.

So is darksend anonymous ? can you test it somehow ?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/227369807/Bitcoin-Coinjoin-Not-Anonymous-v01

Evan's reply

Random FUD

The problems addressed in this were handled hundreds of pages ago. Darksend isn't finished yet and was never promised to be 100% anonymous unless you use great care. Plus RC4 will have great improvements to the anonymity offered.

[ballzdeep]

So XC is at least semi anonymous. The other day Chaeplin showed he could trace transactions with both addresses, has there been any changes to the XC wallet? or is that where we are at right now..

At the moment this coin isn't anonymous at all.
The dev hasn't released any technical documents on how he plans to make it work.
The distribution of coins is awful. Source: http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/#!rich

The person who posted the bet is refusing to publish the account "1" address. A forum member has already broken the "anonymity" of the coin once. To see if any developments have been made, that above address needs to be published.

Seriously, if you can not afford to lose money, withdrawal your capital from this crypto.

So is darksend anonymous ? can you test it somehow ?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/227369807/Bitcoin-Coinjoin-Not-Anonymous-v01

Evan's reply

Random FUD

The problems addressed in this were handled hundreds of pages ago. Darksend isn't finished yet and was never promised to be 100% anonymous unless you use great care. Plus RC4 will have great improvements to the anonymity offered.

Ok but then why you so focused on XCs anonymity when yours isnt 100% and isnt live until 1.5 months from now ?

Edit, oh yeah the question kinda answers itself lol....

[chaeplin]

So XC is at least semi anonymous. The other day Chaeplin showed he could trace transactions with both addresses, has there been any changes to the XC wallet? or is that where we are at right now..

At the moment this coin isn't anonymous at all.
The dev hasn't released any technical documents on how he plans to make it work.
The distribution of coins is awful. Source: http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/#!rich

The person who posted the bet is refusing to publish the account "1" address. A forum member has already broken the "anonymity" of the coin once. To see if any developments have been made, that above address needs to be published.

Seriously, if you can not afford to lose money, withdrawal your capital from this crypto.

So is darksend anonymous ? can you test it somehow ?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/227369807/Bitcoin-Coinjoin-Not-Anonymous-v01

Evan's reply

Random FUD

The problems addressed in this were handled hundreds of pages ago. Darksend isn't finished yet and was never promised to be 100% anonymous unless you use great care. Plus RC4 will have great improvements to the anonymity offered.

Ok but then why you so focused on XCs anonymity when yours isnt 100% and isnt live until 1.5 months from now ?

Edit, oh yeah the question kinda answers itself lol....

Darksend is live.
I am curious how does it work.

Really anonymous ?

[kalisto]

So XC is at least semi anonymous. The other day Chaeplin showed he could trace transactions with both addresses, has there been any changes to the XC wallet? or is that where we are at right now..

At the moment this coin isn't anonymous at all.
The dev hasn't released any technical documents on how he plans to make it work.
The distribution of coins is awful. Source: http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/#!rich

The person who posted the bet is refusing to publish the account "1" address. A forum member has already broken the "anonymity" of the coin once. To see if any developments have been made, that above address needs to be published.

Seriously, if you can not afford to lose money, withdrawal your capital from this crypto.

activity 126 and you still dont understand the logic of an anonymous transaction? shame on you

the bet is to find out what address belongs to "1". on the bitcoin blockchain this is done in less then 5 seconds...

[ballzdeep]

Explain to me why XC has to prove it´s anonymous when all we have its the sects word for it that darksend is ?

I propose that we test both these anonymous solutions and then we can close the book ey ??

[Profetu]

So XC is at least semi anonymous. The other day Chaeplin showed he could trace transactions with both addresses, has there been any changes to the XC wallet? or is that where we are at right now..

At the moment this coin isn't anonymous at all.
The dev hasn't released any technical documents on how he plans to make it work.
The distribution of coins is awful. Source: http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/#!rich

The person who posted the bet is refusing to publish the account "1" address. A forum member has already broken the "anonymity" of the coin once. To see if any developments have been made, that above address needs to be published.

Seriously, if you can not afford to lose money, withdrawal your capital from this crypto.

"At the moment this coin isn't anonymous at all."

You seem to need the send address and receiver address to do what? Find a connection between them? What a joke ! You have the blockchain, and the receiver address. What more do you want? You are basically contesting the definition of "anonymity". If the FBI busts you and they get your wallet they are gonna be like: "Sir we also need the send addresses to prove something..." you can start laughing at them.