[ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA

[lab rat hoax]

or maybe alty is sorta like an idiot/savant ?   great at some things, totally sucks at others    ?

[allyouracid]

Totally agree! But pressure I mean it more in a psychological way. Imagine you begin with such a project. And you make it very good. You work hard and for the most you are Jesus, because the price is rising etc. But also: The price does not reflect everytime how much you invest in it. The Community-Feedback is often disrespectful particularly the price falls or just stagnate for some weeks. A few people always starts complaining if there is not something hyping in a two-day-timeframe. And than: You see dumping. Whales who bought in early sell at the top without fundamental reasons. And: At the same time something big (PoSA) does not work out as good as intended. There are some issues and it all maybe comes together with private plans (vacation for example) and it is all very different from the plans. You are revised and your Investors are disappointed, your own investment is down, too. You need some money and you sell some of your own Coins, much cheaper as intended. There are problems inside the Team... Short: It`s a real hard time.

And in such a time, people often don't have the psychological energy to face a critic community. And every word could lead to a dump. Completely honesty can lead to a dump, even if it's just about some more time. If a Dev would say: Sorry, my daugther is ill. Family first for a week... The price would drop and some would ask: Is he lying? Manipulating? Scammer? etc.

What I want to say is: There are times, you can't do it really right. You just can do it "as right as possible" or "not too bad". And psychological... you don't get such a project out of your mind. You always know, whatever you do in private: Thousands of people are waiting for progress. That is the Master-Plan to a big burn-out. And, to make it clear: I don't want to defend the way how Alty acts in the moment. But I can imagine the pressure and I know from myself: Under pressure and nearly burn-out... all what I would like to have is just some time out. No talking, no complaining... maybe working, but without contact to people who are always pushing. I know it from my own projects (not Software but with similarities in the dynamic). And if there comes a time, one just want some rest... it all becomes a risk. The honest people could think about running away.

For me, under the line: I'm totally convinced, that Alty and nobody of the project, ever intended a scam or big manipulation. Should they give up, than because they couldn't face all the pressure in Crypto. And that's a lot...

And, to come to an end: Satoshi Nakamato had not that pressure. We all can't know, if Bitcoin would exist if he had had such pressure.

Sorry if I cannot answer to the extent this post deserves - I'm a bit short of time.
What you say does make sense. At least, it's what most people holding cloak wish. But there are some inconsistencies: somebody saying that everything looks fine (some days before "The Date", maybe it was yesterday or Monday) MUST have had contact to the developer. How else would he know that everything is in time? He MUST have noticed that a developer (the one of the most important feature) is not available. I have a quite good knowledge of human nature and this looks shady, smells fishy and seems dishonest.
This just keeps me from believing that he is sitting on his PC, coding the crap out of his mind. It's a feeling that has manifested itself.

Maybe you are right, maybe you're not. I just don't know. I'm uncertain (the second letter of FUD - without FUD being the reason for it). For all those still invested in cloak, believing in cloak and for the community altogether, I sincerely hope that you are right.

What are you really saying?

Isnt it obvious? The devs promise an epic release. Update on how great its going. Then through an obscure twitter tweet announce that a core dev actually hasnt been wokring on it for a week... Opppps sorry guys. Then is mia... Like come on....

Thank you, that is exactly what I meant.

[EfterlysT]

I get the same feeling about this as i got when greedy people continued to deposit btc to gox when it totally collapsed, days before it got shut down for good.. (Good luck to thoose coins again)

People must:

1. Have to much money.

2. Dont care about the money.

3. Be stuck in some kind of longtime denial.

I have to say that this is the sickest thing i have watched in crypto yet. I dont see why people are struggeling to keep this coin alive after being treated like stupid sheeps by the dev team over and over again ? Very many of these people must be stuck since way over 100k to not just drop the bags and run now.

If the price of this coin jumps for the 37th time just of some new bs ETA it would be pretty hilarious. People need to wake up or atleast bail before everyone else the next time.

[zaintariqs]

maybe the dev team is now busy with XCASH development...

dump your cloack and buy xchash, then dump your xcash and buy ycash then dump your ycash and buy zcash...

if you think i am fudding, keep thinking.

[fushy]

I get the same feeling about this as i got when greedy people continued to deposit btc to gox when it totally collapsed, days before it got shut down for good.. (Good luck to thoose coins again)

People must:

1. Have to much money.

2. Dont care about the money.

3. Be stuck in some kind of longtime denial.

I have to say that this is the sickest thing i have watched in crypto yet. I dont see why people are struggeling to keep this coin alive after being treated like stupid sheeps by the dev team over and over again ? Very many of these people must be stuck since way over 100k to not just drop the bags and run now.

If the price of this coin jumps for the 37th time just of some new bs ETA it would be pretty hilarious. People need to wake up or atleast bail before everyone else the next time.

People must:

1. Have to much desire.

2. Dont care about the consequences.

3. Be refused a kind of retribution.




Now wwwhat kind of life is that?

[yogibaer]

News on IRC: #cloakcoin

Dev Team is still alive, development is going on .... nothing to worry about!

[erok]

News on IRC: #cloakcoin

Dev Team is still alive, development is going on .... nothing to worry about!

And things might get infinitely better on the PR side!

[zaintariqs]

News on IRC: #cloakcoin

Dev Team is still alive, development is going on .... nothing to worry about!

yeah they are all alive and they are now working on XCASH...

[yogibaer]

To all the fearful investors:

instead of spreading FUD or crying, hold an amount of cloak which doesn't hurt you in the case it's worthless after a while. Forget about Cloak for 3, 6 12 months and wait, then open your wallet and sell your coins or put them to the dead coins. Early BTC holders didn't become rich after 3 months. They had to hold for more than 3 years ....

[zaintariqs]

To all the fearful investors:

instead of spreading FUD or crying, hold an amount of cloak which doesn't hurt you in the case it's worthless after a while. Forget about Cloak for 3, 6 12 months and wait, then open your wallet and sell your coins or put them to the dead coins. Early BTC holders didn't become rich after 3 months. They had to hold for more than 3 years ....

HAHAHAHA dont loose your innocence in next 3 years.
good luck !

[BTCgraphics]

To all the fearful investors:

instead of spreading FUD or crying, hold an amount of cloak which doesn't hurt you in the case it's worthless after a while. Forget about Cloak for 3, 6 12 months and wait, then open your wallet and sell your coins or put them to the dead coins. Early BTC holders didn't become rich after 3 months. They had to hold for more than 3 years ....

HAHAHAHA dont loose your innocence in next 3 years.
good luck !

hahaha... Wait... Loose your innocence..... What? Lol

[allyouracid]

I get the same feeling about this as i got when greedy people continued to deposit btc to gox when it totally collapsed, days before it got shut down for good.. (Good luck to thoose coins again)

People must:

1. Have to much money.

2. Dont care about the money.

3. Be stuck in some kind of longtime denial.

I have to say that this is the sickest thing i have watched in crypto yet. I dont see why people are struggeling to keep this coin alive after being treated like stupid sheeps by the dev team over and over again ? Very many of these people must be stuck since way over 100k to not just drop the bags and run now.

If the price of this coin jumps for the 37th time just of some new bs ETA it would be pretty hilarious. People need to wake up or atleast bail before everyone else the next time.

People must:

1. Have to much desire.

2. Dont care about the consequences.

3. Be refused a kind of retribution.




Now wwwhat kind of life is that?

Nice style of writing, really.

There's one thing I'd like to know: in what direction did your question "what do you really want to say?" go? Did you read something between the lines or was my writing style just poor? Or was it like "too many words for very little message"?

[szuwi]

Alty knew that the main dev was away, and despite of this, said that they deliver. Some bullshit about surge, or so... Maybe he was taking about pre-bad-news-pump? Hmmm. Ok let's assume that he was not aware of the consequences. Now he is getting smarter, learning from own mistakes - suddenly he discovered new general life rule: NO DEV = NO PROGRESS = DELAY
let's count... 5-day holidays, so 5-day delay, so... assuming the dev is coding now, we can expect next pump... early next week? what you thing guys?

[EfterlysT]

Dont worry.. Dev said Hi on IRC, now everything is OK, all forgiven.. again..

Sheeps are already bending over with their panties at their knees painting a bullseye on their ass... again

Bring some lube this time !

[BTCgraphics]

Dont worry.. Dev said Hi on IRC, now everything is OK, all forgiven.. again..

Sheeps are already bending over with their panties at their knees painting a bullseye on their ass... again

Bring some lube this time !

i dont see him in irc

[YourMother]

Fear, Anger, Anarchy. Dumb bagholders crying and flash dumping (btw i just ordered a container of tissue). Me ? I feel pity, disgust. ( ordered myself a transporter train loaded with grapefruits )

Whaaaaat a bunch of fucking amateurs. Do i really need to say again "  I told ya ", aah ? Did you really believed in those stupid fantasy names ? C.I.A.R.A ? U.S.H.E.R. C.E.C.I.L ? PoSa ? Jesus, these are names that only a troll could come up with. Also, God damn it, i destroyed so many shitcoins in my time that i have more credibility than Dan Metcalf and Evan Duffield combined when it comes to crypto business. I was right on every one of them. Just watch how my portfolio will grow in time... and for fuck sake, when i speak, you listen. You will shut the fuck up with your technical analysis and your dumb cheerleading. You will just listen and bow before me, bitch!

































Speaking about Alty, where's that little goofy whore hiding ? This is what he did to implement OneMarket into the wallet. This is the official leaked video








This is the second leaked video where he tests his new shiny copy-pasta script kiddie killer feature




Not working. Some development, huh ? Can't wait for the rest of the features...

Someone please bury this shitcoin ASAP before it loses its dignity

[max8888]

p4n
but for now, we only got silence and few words, and suddenly, a wild tweet appeared and we got black out
@dasource
we'll get there guys! ... stay cloak strong!
p4n
and there's no pokemon center near lol
@dasource
lol ^
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threec
dasource, what exactly is the deal with the release?
Severell
he wont tell you
@dasource
man dev has had a few days off and we still got lots todo ... so we need more time.. I dont know how long yet
p4n
mm i found this from 2 days ago: @alty � testnet was going to be happening today... but...still waiting on it as there were some delays as is (nearly) always the case
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threec
ok.
Nukleuz_
was there a good reason for his days off? did he not inform the team?
p4n
and the famous one: @alty � I need to confirm with our main dev how much we can release on the 10th
Nukleuz_
because that's scary if the main dev can take days off without anyone knowing during a deadline and not be accountable for it
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threec
that would saved alot of people alot of btc if that was spoken exactly that way 48 hrs ago.
p4n
i need devs seriously need an official holiday calendar
@dasource
we knew about it when it happend ... its just unfortunately .. nature taking its course.... we had to play it by ear and was not sure how long he would need to be off for
p4n
and an away message in irc telling "I'm away in Ibiza" or something like that xD
threec
you see my point?
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@dasource
dasource new recommendation to alty is ... we give dates in months only
Nukleuz_
the most important thing is giving deadlines that are fulfilled
mondi
hey ho guys, you missed me?
Nukleuz_
there's been so many delays in Cloak's history
p4n
only if Alty came here and in BTCtalk telling "We have an unfortunate delay, and we can't give an ETA for now. We're still working hard on it" it would have been so much better
Nukleuz_
deadlines and etas are starting to mean nothing now
mondi
@dasource, your team should start getting the community retrust in the team again
about Dates
@dasource
mondi : my view on it is different.. when your dev leading edge tech you dont give a date full stop
but heyho that is my opinion
Nukleuz_
yeah, imo either don't give dates, or only give dates that are kept so that the dates actually mean something
cause trust was broken with deadlines in the past, it has to be rebuilt like mondi says
@dasource
yeah
mondi
We sure need some clarification about that Tweet and what was going on, an official statement, or everybody will laugh.
Nukleuz_
and it's hard for supporters to hang around while everyone is saying "no they won't make the deadline" because... it's actually been true
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mondi
clearification*
Nukleuz_
clarification was correct hehe
mondi
this english though
Nukleuz_
lol
mondi
C1 still not enough
sounded to much like "Clara"... i like her
p4n
u r thinking in ciara
Nukleuz_
i think a video of dev progress like the one awhile back would convince a lot of doubters that the project is still underway
p4n
xD
we had a great promo video yesterday....
Nukleuz_
like at the bottom of http://www.cloakcoin.com
the development videos
p4n
that went into nothing with today's tweet
mondi
@dasource , my deep respect for holding your head at the claws of the community, but it sure gives you some golden balls
Nukleuz_
hasn't been one in forever
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daearl
hallo
any news?
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mondi
Joe said hello, and dasource is punished by questions over questions
@dasource

daearl

[BrianM]

CLOACK! BUY BUY BUY! Before it is too late!

to the hell 

No problem, the rocket just have to fly from hell and to the moon.
UP UP UP!!

[Minotaur26]

[zaintariqs]

http://www.altys.info/