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September 28, 2014, 06:56:28 PM |
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Was it stopped Intentionally? How can you stop a decentralized network Intentionally? is it decentralized?
Exactly, I don't see how the devs could have just stopped a live network to test new code. I don't even know why they are testing new code on a live network, but anyway... All we've heard is that the devs are testing a new implementation of the PoT algorithm, but how that causes it to stop a live network, I have no clue whatsoever. @Devs, we are waiting for a proper response to this.
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September 28, 2014, 06:58:20 PM |
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Okay, as I mentioned earlier I didn't really like any of the new logo designs. I've adapted the current logo to create the one below, if you notice the "C" has been edited slightly to look less chunky. I've kept the Crypti font as I really like it and I've tried to keep the same color scheme as the current one. So just to show you guys what I mean, here it is : ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F10pzj1v.png&t=665&c=pMwoY9AKSMuUAg) #Take note I didn't have access to the actual font used in the current logo, I had to re-create it in Illustrator so that's why the fonts may look a bit jagged and rough. Also I just re-did this in about 10 minutes so the quality isn't all that good, when i have more time I'll redo it proper. I like this one the best out of all the ones I've seen. I do as well. Maybe keep 45 degree to -45 degree standard C instead of 90 degree to -90 degree with tangent lines to right. Definitely prefer the full round fillets on the ends of all characters and logo, and the modern font. This is how it would look like: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi1369.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag230%2Fyeahright%2FUnchi_bitseed_zps9428ddcb.jpg&t=665&c=KGXx0SCsE0Y0YQ)
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Litoshi
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September 28, 2014, 07:03:34 PM |
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MintPal has been down and up and down again for two days and I have not heard a word here about it. How Come?
MintPal is supposed to be merged with Moolah yesterday and adding XCR and many other coins, but they cant get their act together EITHER.
As for myself, I look forward to the backlog of forging earnings to be had once the network is back up.
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Litoshi
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September 28, 2014, 07:30:04 PM Last edit: September 28, 2014, 07:44:56 PM by Litoshi |
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MintPal has been down and up and down again for two days and I have not heard a word here about it. How Come?
MintPal is supposed to be merged with Moolah yesterday and adding XCR and many other coins, but they cant get their act together EITHER.
As for myself, I look forward to the backlog of forging earnings to be had once the network is back up.
can u get respond from devs plz Main devs are in Russia. Its very early morning there right now. Boris has been working 20 hrs a day for several days on the code. Here is the latest pic: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-BN-F6fO7BkI%2FTVuoAlNUTdI%2FAAAAAAAACM4%2FM_1vHQObjgo%2Fs1600%2FDead%2BComputer.jpg&t=665&c=nflxBW8XbuzJ5Q)
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SyRenity
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September 28, 2014, 07:44:55 PM |
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Status update
First of all, I'd like to apologize for us not providing ongoing updates regarding the forging nodes being paused. This was done as an emergency measure to avoid possible forks with the PoT stability issues that we have discovered, while we are working on a proper solution for them. The intended pause period was expected to be a day at most, however unfortunately re-working the PoT took much more time than planned, thus causing the extended delay.
Thanks the Foundation members who did their best communicating this to the community, while us being focused on the PoT.
The good news is that we done with the Pot re-implementation, and now running private tests before we deploy to testnet for Foundation and IRC members to give it a try. Provided it passes them, we will release the new 0.1.7 version (both Linux and Windows) to the wide circulation.
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Wulfcastle
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September 28, 2014, 07:52:32 PM |
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Status update
First of all, I'd like to apologize for us not providing ongoing updates regarding the forging nodes being paused. This was done as an emergency measure to avoid possible forks with the PoT stability issues that we have discovered, while we are working on a proper solution for them. The intended pause period was expected to be a day at most, however unfortunately re-working the PoT took much more time than planned, thus causing the extended delay.
Thanks the Foundation members who did their best communicating this to the community, while us being focused on the PoT.
The good news is that we done with the Pot re-implementation, and now running private tests before we deploy to testnet for Foundation and IRC members to give it a try. Provided it passes them, we will release the new 0.1.7 version (both Linux and Windows) to the wide circulation.
SyRenity, we have been hearing this line for the past few weeks. Does this now mean that the network will remain down for however long this takes, possibly weeks?
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SyRenity
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September 28, 2014, 07:53:55 PM |
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Exactly, I don't see how the devs could have just stopped a live network to test new code. I don't even know why they are testing new code on a live network, but anyway...
All we've heard is that the devs are testing a new implementation of the PoT algorithm, but how that causes it to stop a live network, I have no clue whatsoever.
All new versions testing is naturally performed on testnet ( http://testnet.crypti.me/). The mainnet was stopped to avoid forks, as I explained in detail above.
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September 28, 2014, 07:54:56 PM |
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MintPal has been down and up and down again for two days and I have not heard a word here about it. How Come?
MintPal is supposed to be merged with Moolah yesterday and adding XCR and many other coins, but they cant get their act together EITHER.
As for myself, I look forward to the backlog of forging earnings to be had once the network is back up.
can u get respond from devs plz Main devs are in Russia. Its very early morning there right now. Boris has been working 20 hrs a day for several days on the code. Here is the latest pic: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-BN-F6fO7BkI%2FTVuoAlNUTdI%2FAAAAAAAACM4%2FM_1vHQObjgo%2Fs1600%2FDead%2BComputer.jpg&t=665&c=nflxBW8XbuzJ5Q) O my god! What happened to Boris?! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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SyRenity
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September 28, 2014, 08:00:42 PM |
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Does this now mean that the network will remain down for however long this takes, possibly weeks?
We are working to restore it to fully functional order as soon as possible, with the target to have it up and running within days.
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SyRenity
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September 28, 2014, 08:04:30 PM |
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Was it stopped Intentionally? How can you stop a decentralized network Intentionally? is it decentralized?
Foundation own nodes where stopped, which form for the moment the majority of Crypti network. Naturally people running their own nodes are not affected by that, however the main services (exchanges, etc...) are working with Crypti nodes. Once we get the Windows version out, we certainly looking for a change of this situation, where Foundation nodes are the minority.
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SyRenity
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September 28, 2014, 08:06:16 PM |
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Yeah we all know it but when we have no possibility of any transactions/forging since few days there can be two scenarios: Devs dont know exactly how to fix it or problem is so huge that they are trying new approach of some technical issues. Anyway it seems to be huge problem. Another thing is if they cant estimate when problem will be solved then my theory becomes more real. If I am wrong devs please correct me.
Due to change being complex, we are deliberately not giving delivery dates, as we must ensure it's absolutely bug free. We are doing our best to have it resolved and deployed within the next few days.
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Wulfcastle
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September 28, 2014, 08:07:56 PM |
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Okay thanks for clearing all that up SyRenity. We appreciate it, though in the future, please try to maintain better communication with the community in periods such as this.
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SyRenity
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September 28, 2014, 08:09:12 PM |
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Also Crypti team gathered 650BTC or more so I suppose they can hire another specialist to help them solve the problem with network... If this situation will continue people will start to sell what they have on exchanges.
750 BTC, and we are putting these funds to a good use, setting up a dedicated out-staffed R&D team, which will be lead by Boris. That said arranging it takes time and abroad travel, which was currently delayed exactly because of the PoT issue being worked on.
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SyRenity
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September 28, 2014, 08:13:15 PM |
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Okay thanks for clearing all that up SyRenity. We appreciate it, though in the future, please try to maintain better communication with the community in periods such as this.
Noted, and while we still prefer Grexx as our community lead to give day-to-day updates, me and Boris will be more active in case of such sensitive situations.
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SyRenity
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September 28, 2014, 08:18:47 PM |
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I dont think they are incompetent. I think that unexpected issues came so they have decided to change a few things. I read a book once The Lean startup. Its pretty good book IMO and it shows you how every succesful company had to restructure their system, product, service,.... many times to get perfect results. They failed and lost lots of time to get it right but at the end it was worth it! Its definetly not incompetence its just when something is launched then you see much more that when you are planning.
Awesome book - I also advise reading "Running Lean". Crypti actually quite tries to follow the lean methodology, and if you treat the released versions as a MVP in progress, things will start to become more clear ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . Actually, a lot of other alts (Nxt included) follow same path.
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SyRenity
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September 28, 2014, 08:24:19 PM |
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But on the other hand changing code means: if devs knew that the code was bad but used it - this "network" was only a demo (not beta, not alfa) and may be it must be restarted; ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) if devs discovered that code was bad only now - there is no guarantee that their new code will not be bad again, this is incompetence. ![Angry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/angry.gif) I'm actually certain that you, as NXT early adopter, is quite accustomed to a changing code ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) : https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/commits/allJust look through the last 2 months commits and see how many NXT core changes you can spot (comments with "blocks", "peers", "rollback" and so on).
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GreXX
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September 28, 2014, 08:25:10 PM |
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Okay thanks for clearing all that up SyRenity. We appreciate it, though in the future, please try to maintain better communication with the community in periods such as this.
Are you joking? I have been here saying all of this the entire time?!? I don't get no respect!!
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Litoshi
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September 28, 2014, 08:33:12 PM |
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Okay thanks for clearing all that up SyRenity. We appreciate it, though in the future, please try to maintain better communication with the community in periods such as this.
Are you joking? I have been here saying all of this the entire time?!? I don't get no respect!! Seems that most are too lazy to look at posts that may be (OH MY GOSH) two hours old!!!. Much easier to flame and complain than to go back a page.
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Litoshi
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September 28, 2014, 08:35:38 PM |
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Lets get back to the design of the logo. I really like this one. Posted by klopper. Perhaps our community can use this as a base and experiment with colors, sheen, reflections, shadows, etc: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Foi60.tinypic.com%2F20avqr6.jpg%26t%3D544%26c%3DKVZIxJOHRV6BaQ&t=665&c=1RvOl5tB7H8JvA)
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SyRenity
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September 28, 2014, 08:36:19 PM |
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The bottom line is I don't feel they are amateurs I feel they handle it ok. The one thing I can agree too is that I feel there should be more developers so we can speed up the coding process. For this to happend I feel like the Crypti team might have to take it down a notch (as in realizing there are many talented developers other than themselves) because what you need is manpower. I believe you set up mid october - late october for your short term goals right now that doesn't look too near if this isn't resolved soon and that will dissapoint even myself whom is a pretty calm investor but like I said new things take time and patience is often rewarded because it is a rare condition in these parts. /rant off /5KB
Thanks for the kind words. After PoT re-implementation and Windows wallet final release, hiring is our top priority (together with custom block-chains). While the BTC rates are making this more challenging, we working on a solution to bring quality talent, that will stay with us with for an adequate amount of time to reach all the goals that we have planned.
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