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[LetMeKnow]

One thing i wanted to say about raised 750BTC.

Everybody says woooo you have soo much money for development and so on.. In reality thats not such a huge amount at all -  considering all the work, promotion and various costs... if you look at the 1-2 year period.
And now that Bitcoin price is down this 750BTC looks even smaller. (BTW probably they have already used a few BTC so lets talk about 700 from now on )

Just so to clear this up.

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[Litoshi]

Nice advice!
But isnt it better to make network completely decetralized? Why spend any money to make centralized Crypti network?

I think that forging-rewarding somehow attracts people and can help to make use of Crypti go viral. Esspecially because you dont need some high-end computer just a simple laptop.

Mal is proposing a system that starts out as centralized, but migrates to a decentralized system once merchants are signed up and join the network.

The XCR community has some really talented bloggers. 

[Wulfcastle]

The new simplified solution still bases forging on nodes being active, but it is a more random solution as it doesn't require sending of the extra overhead bits and isn't an http request so consensus isn't a problem in the timeframe we are aiming for. This solution works and will get us back online, but it still isn't ultimately our goal or the system we wish to implement long term. It is reminiscent of an early build we had before implementing the up-time calculations we had in the launch version....
<...>

Remember the goal was to reward users for running nodes in an equitable manner. There are definitely other solutions and we will be looking into them.

Is the goal of rewarding users in an equitable manner for running nodes the right goal for Crypti to have?

This leads directly into a critical philosophical discussion and a practical solution for Crypti that I was going to wait about bringing up until things were more stable, but maybe it's time to have that discussion now.  

Start from first principles.  In any cryptocoin system, SOMEBODY must be selected to encrypt the current block and add it to the blockchain.  

PoW Bitcoin first motivated these "miners" by giving them a reward of newly created coins.  This created three problems.  

First, the new coins created every ten minutes is a huge source of monetary  inflation for the Bitcoin economy (despite Bitcoin's false propaganda to the contrary).  

Second, the miners are motivated to start a huge ASCI arms race that cannot be sustained and is headed very soon to becoming a classic case of ecological exponential growth / collapse (see http://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate?timespan=all&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=7&show_header=true&scale=0&address=) .  Like the death of the dinosaurs, this will soon kill Bitcoin stone cold dead and open the landscape for a new 2.0 cryptocurrency to become king.

And finally, the Bitcoin approach is incredibly wasteful.  During every Bitcoin 10 minute block period, literally thousands of millions of billions of candidate blocks are generated for possible inclusion on the blockchain.   It takes tens of millions of dollars of gear to do this burning huge amounts of electricity.  Every single one of these block is mathematically correct as a block chain add-on.   All (except eventually for one) are rejected because they don't have enough "leading zeros" in the first part of their bit string to "win" the (illegal in all US States) DICE THROWING GAMBLING GAME being played by the miners to select who gets the new coins.   Bitcoin is no different than shooting dice in the back alley except they use computers for the dice and the internet for the back alley.  BESIDES BEING ILLEGAL, THIS IS A HUGE UNNECESSARY WASTE OF COMPUTER POWER.

PoS NXT solves the last two problems by cooperatively designates in advance one single person to generate the block every blocktime instead of competitively selecting in realtime the winner of a huge worldwide gambling contest every ten minutes as Bitcoin does.  Instead of the warehouse full of $2000 ASIC supercomputers the Bitcoin miner needs to win his lottery to forge a Bitcoin block, all a NXT forger needs is a single $35 Raspberry Pi (or better still, something just a little more powerful but still incredibly cheap like an ODROID-U3 : http://hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php).  This HUGE advantage alone means NXT will ultimately win over Bitcoin.

But NXT still feels the need to "reward" people for running nodes.  Since no new coins are being created like Bitcoin does, NXT "recycles" to node operators / "forgers" a small proportion a coins gathered as "fees" during a blocktime.  Well, that's OK, but to win the NXT lottery that single Raspberry Pi or ODROID-U3 has to be loaded up with as much NXT as possible (the "stake" in PoS) to maximize the chances of winning the NXT lottery.  This leads to a mentality that NXT needs to be hoarded by individuals instead of dispersed among many to form a merchant-based sales economy.  

Crypti wants to become the foundation for merchant-based sales.  So the devs have come up with "PoT/PoI/PoP" to replace NXT's PoS and so break out of the PoS inevitable coin-hoarding mentality.  This is indeed the next big step  and why I am interested in seeing Crypti succeed.

But in addition to breaking out of NXT's PoS coin-hoarding weakness, Crypti needs to break out of the real flaw that both Bitcoin and NXT share : the perceived need to reward node operators.

Rewarding node-operators just isn't necessary AT ALL.  Computers have become so cheap and so ubiquitous that it really isn't necessary to motivate people to operate them anymore.  There will be no stopping the cryptocoin that realizes and implements this fact.

Think about it.  In the real-world retail environment, the concept of "blocktime" is "ringing up a sale".  Are reward fees used to finance the operation of a cash register?  Is a cashier paid a "tip" for pushing the buttons and swiping a card / opening a cash drawer and making change?  NO!  Both the cash register and the clerk are so cheap they are both considered "overhead" in the operation of the sales environment and paid as an expense in the overall operation.  

With cheap sub-$100 computers like ODROID-U3 capable of making up ALL nodes in a Crypti network, the idea of coin-owners being needed to operate the nodes AT ALL, much less needing to be "REWARDED" for doing so, is ridiculous.  If Crypti is really being used by merchants as true money, the MERCHANT POOL running Crypti processing nodes will provide all the nodes required to secure the network, and can adjust their prices so running a cheap node is just another incidental business expense.  

So to repeat, there really isn't a need to have Crypti coin holders running nodes at all, much less be "rewarded" for doing so.   You've got 750 BTC worth between a quarter and half million dollars.  Go buy a thousand ODROID-U3s for $100,000 and let the devs set up a huge 1000-node Crypti network on those at relaunch.  As merchants sign up, power down an ODROID and mail it to them for FREE to start back up in their store.   Or let them download the code to put in an SD card and stick in a ODROID for a configuration-controlled addition to the network.  If Crypti is a successful cryptocoin of commerce, paying $100 for a little plastic brick to sit in a corner so they can join the fun is no big deal for ANY commercial vendor of ANY size.  They don't need to be rewarded every so often for such a small buy-in requirement, especially since the reward is a mere pittance anyway.

Remember, the key is not rewarding a node operator - it is cooperatively designating one to add the next block.

The real key is to get merchants to want that little plastic ODROID brick / Crypti node.  No mystery remote server setup for them, no bulky windows computer running 24/7 for them - just pull it out of an envelope, plug it into a wall socket, and access it thru a cell phone app / wifi to setup and processs sales transactions.   That should be the pitch.

Crypti alone isn't very enticing to lure a merchant  - it's just one of many cryptocoins and has a had rocky start to boot.  So the brick needs to offer something more than just Crypti to generate immediate interest.  Now, if its code could handle / automate BITCOIN operations NOW for a vendor as well as CRYPTI  operations as those ramp up in the FUTURE, I think there would be some real merchant interest in getting one.  Offer merchants something that can help them handle Bitcoin AND Crypti.  We gain market penetration based on the Bitcoin capabilities.  If and when Bitcoin falters, we have already arranged a seamless merchant transition to Crypti.  Merchants come for Bitcoin, they stay for Crypti.

Don't lose sight of what your primary goal for Crypti is: to become a non-hoarded coin for merchant use in sales transactions.  

Is working to perfect a PoT algorithm to reward coin-holders the most direct, most efficient, and most likely to succeed effort that will achieve that goal?

Or is concentrating on creating a dual Bitcoin transaction access / Crypti block creating cheap node that merchants will want for themselves NOW a better path?

Maybe this is not an either - or situation.  Maybe...do both?

My parting thought: if you are doing a major system reorganization anyway, take a step back and see how you can more tightly integrate a cheap, simple standardized building block like the ODROID-U3 into your revamped effort and so create something that will better advance Crypti with an additional hook like Bitcoin access to MAKE MERCHANTS WANT IT NOW.

Making merchants want it NOW:  that's the path forward for Crypti.

Now that is one radical approach, in my honest opinion I don't think it would be feasible to use this kind of concept, also it would make Crypti initially heavily centralized.

[hobogo]

The new simplified solution still bases forging on nodes being active, but it is a more random solution as it doesn't require sending of the extra overhead bits and isn't an http request so consensus isn't a problem in the timeframe we are aiming for. This solution works and will get us back online, but it still isn't ultimately our goal or the system we wish to implement long term. It is reminiscent of an early build we had before implementing the up-time calculations we had in the launch version....
<...>

Remember the goal was to reward users for running nodes in an equitable manner. There are definitely other solutions and we will be looking into them.

Is the goal of rewarding users in an equitable manner for running nodes the right goal for Crypti to have?

This leads directly into a critical philosophical discussion and a practical solution for Crypti that I was going to wait about bringing up until things were more stable, but maybe it's time to have that discussion now.  

Start from first principles.  In any cryptocoin system, SOMEBODY must be selected to encrypt the current block and add it to the blockchain.  

PoW Bitcoin first motivated these "miners" by giving them a reward of newly created coins.  This created three problems.  

First, the new coins created every ten minutes is a huge source of monetary  inflation for the Bitcoin economy (despite Bitcoin's false propaganda to the contrary).  

Second, the miners are motivated to start a huge ASCI arms race that cannot be sustained and is headed very soon to becoming a classic case of ecological exponential growth / collapse (see http://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate?timespan=all&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=7&show_header=true&scale=0&address=) .  Like the death of the dinosaurs, this will soon kill Bitcoin stone cold dead and open the landscape for a new 2.0 cryptocurrency to become king.

And finally, the Bitcoin approach is incredibly wasteful.  During every Bitcoin 10 minute block period, literally thousands of millions of billions of candidate blocks are generated for possible inclusion on the blockchain.   It takes tens of millions of dollars of gear to do this burning huge amounts of electricity.  Every single one of these block is mathematically correct as a block chain add-on.   All (except eventually for one) are rejected because they don't have enough "leading zeros" in the first part of their bit string to "win" the (illegal in all US States) DICE THROWING GAMBLING GAME being played by the miners to select who gets the new coins.   Bitcoin is no different than shooting dice in the back alley except they use computers for the dice and the internet for the back alley.  BESIDES BEING ILLEGAL, THIS IS A HUGE UNNECESSARY WASTE OF COMPUTER POWER.

PoS NXT solves the last two problems by cooperatively designates in advance one single person to generate the block every blocktime instead of competitively selecting in realtime the winner of a huge worldwide gambling contest every ten minutes as Bitcoin does.  Instead of the warehouse full of $2000 ASIC supercomputers the Bitcoin miner needs to win his lottery to forge a Bitcoin block, all a NXT forger needs is a single $35 Raspberry Pi (or better still, something just a little more powerful but still incredibly cheap like an ODROID-U3 : http://hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php).  This HUGE advantage alone means NXT will ultimately win over Bitcoin.

But NXT still feels the need to "reward" people for running nodes.  Since no new coins are being created like Bitcoin does, NXT "recycles" to node operators / "forgers" a small proportion a coins gathered as "fees" during a blocktime.  Well, that's OK, but to win the NXT lottery that single Raspberry Pi or ODROID-U3 has to be loaded up with as much NXT as possible (the "stake" in PoS) to maximize the chances of winning the NXT lottery.  This leads to a mentality that NXT needs to be hoarded by individuals instead of dispersed among many to form a merchant-based sales economy.  

Crypti wants to become the foundation for merchant-based sales.  So the devs have come up with "PoT/PoI/PoP" to replace NXT's PoS and so break out of the PoS inevitable coin-hoarding mentality.  This is indeed the next big step  and why I am interested in seeing Crypti succeed.

But in addition to breaking out of NXT's PoS coin-hoarding weakness, Crypti needs to break out of the real flaw that both Bitcoin and NXT share : the perceived need to reward node operators.

Rewarding node-operators just isn't necessary AT ALL.  Computers have become so cheap and so ubiquitous that it really isn't necessary to motivate people to operate them anymore.  There will be no stopping the cryptocoin that realizes and implements this fact.

Think about it.  In the real-world retail environment, the concept of "blocktime" is "ringing up a sale".  Are reward fees used to finance the operation of a cash register?  Is a cashier paid a "tip" for pushing the buttons and swiping a card / opening a cash drawer and making change?  NO!  Both the cash register and the clerk are so cheap they are both considered "overhead" in the operation of the sales environment and paid as an expense in the overall operation.  

With cheap sub-$100 computers like ODROID-U3 capable of making up ALL nodes in a Crypti network, the idea of coin-owners being needed to operate the nodes AT ALL, much less needing to be "REWARDED" for doing so, is ridiculous.  If Crypti is really being used by merchants as true money, the MERCHANT POOL running Crypti processing nodes will provide all the nodes required to secure the network, and can adjust their prices so running a cheap node is just another incidental business expense.  

So to repeat, there really isn't a need to have Crypti coin holders running nodes at all, much less be "rewarded" for doing so.   You've got 750 BTC worth between a quarter and half million dollars.  Go buy a thousand ODROID-U3s for $100,000 and let the devs set up a huge 1000-node Crypti network on those at relaunch.  As merchants sign up, power down an ODROID and mail it to them for FREE to start back up in their store.   Or let them download the code to put in an SD card and stick in a ODROID for a configuration-controlled addition to the network.  If Crypti is a successful cryptocoin of commerce, paying $100 for a little plastic brick to sit in a corner so they can join the fun is no big deal for ANY commercial vendor of ANY size.  They don't need to be rewarded every so often for such a small buy-in requirement, especially since the reward is a mere pittance anyway.

Remember, the key is not rewarding a node operator - it is cooperatively designating one to add the next block.

The real key is to get merchants to want that little plastic ODROID brick / Crypti node.  No mystery remote server setup for them, no bulky windows computer running 24/7 for them - just pull it out of an envelope, plug it into a wall socket, and access it thru a cell phone app / wifi to setup and processs sales transactions.   That should be the pitch.

Crypti alone isn't very enticing to lure a merchant  - it's just one of many cryptocoins and has a had rocky start to boot.  So the brick needs to offer something more than just Crypti to generate immediate interest.  Now, if its code could handle / automate BITCOIN operations NOW for a vendor as well as CRYPTI  operations as those ramp up in the FUTURE, I think there would be some real merchant interest in getting one.  Offer merchants something that can help them handle Bitcoin AND Crypti.  We gain market penetration based on the Bitcoin capabilities.  If and when Bitcoin falters, we have already arranged a seamless merchant transition to Crypti.  Merchants come for Bitcoin, they stay for Crypti.

Don't lose sight of what your primary goal for Crypti is: to become a non-hoarded coin for merchant use in sales transactions.  

Is working to perfect a PoT algorithm to reward coin-holders the most direct, most efficient, and most likely to succeed effort that will achieve that goal?

Or is concentrating on creating a dual Bitcoin transaction access / Crypti block creating cheap node that merchants will want for themselves NOW a better path?

Maybe this is not an either - or situation.  Maybe...do both?

My parting thought: if you are doing a major system reorganization anyway, take a step back and see how you can more tightly integrate a cheap, simple standardized building block like the ODROID-U3 into your revamped effort and so create something that will better advance Crypti with an additional hook like Bitcoin access to MAKE MERCHANTS WANT IT NOW.

Making merchants want it NOW:  that's the path forward for Crypti.

Definitely worth considering

[Bitseed]

A group of are us are developing an ARM based coinbox for sale, and there is some overlap between the Crypti team and the coinbox team, Bitseed. We initially tried the NanoPC, a quad core ARM Cortex A9 board, which proved to be unstable. We then went to the Odroid, also a quad core board, which runs well but is too expensive to meet our sub-$100 retail price point. We are currently testing the Cubieboard2 and Cubieboard.

The product is meant to be a stand alone low power secure coinbox which can be always on to run PoS type coins, starting with NXT and Crypti pre-loaded for customer convenience.

It is also the core of our cryptocurrency based mesh networking project, where users can earn coin by providing bandwidth and storage to the mesh network, use the coin to access the network elsewhere with mobile devices, and buy or sell the coin as desired. We just had a very productive meeting with a supplier of TV whitespace electronics which has 10-15 mile range without needing line of sight with 19-21 Mbps data rates. This will allow the mesh to start with a much sparser population of nodes than is possible just using WiFi.

The development path is to start with the coinbox to get the units into the hands of users and developers, add the mesh networking hardware to the coinbox to convert it into a mesh networking node, combining the electronics into a single board system to produce a low cost stationary node capable of running on solar power, and then iteratively shrink the system to work first as a compact tethered node to operate with a mobile device, and finally, integrate it into mobile devices like the Google Ara modular phone and/or an open source mobile device which is part of a networked personal wearable system which can integrate a heads up augmented reality display, PTZ cameras, wrist band displays, gesture and voice control, and specialized devices like medical diagnostics and scientific sensors.

[5000Bitcoins]

Any chance of the network coming up soon, as Mintpal is coming up today too

[5000Bitcoins]

A group of are us are developing an ARM based coinbox for sale, and there is some overlap between the Crypti team and the coinbox team, Bitseed. We initially tried the NanoPC, a quad core ARM Cortex A9 board, which proved to be unstable. We then went to the Odroid, also a quad core board, which runs well but is too expensive to meet our sub-$100 retail price point. We are currently testing the Cubieboard2 and Cubieboard.

The product is meant to be a stand alone low power secure coinbox which can be always on to run PoS type coins, starting with NXT and Crypti pre-loaded for customer convenience.

It is also the core of our cryptocurrency based mesh networking project, where users can earn coin by providing bandwidth and storage to the mesh network, use the coin to access the network elsewhere with mobile devices, and buy or sell the coin as desired. We just had a very productive meeting with a supplier of TV whitespace electronics which has 10-15 mile range without needing line of sight with 19-21 Mbps data rates. This will allow the mesh to start with a much sparser population of nodes than is possible just using WiFi.

The development path is to start with the coinbox to get the units into the hands of users and developers, add the mesh networking hardware to the coinbox to convert it into a mesh networking node, combining the electronics into a single board system to produce a low cost stationary node capable of running on solar power, and then iteratively shrink the system to work first as a compact tethered node to operate with a mobile device, and finally, integrate it into mobile devices like the Google Ara modular phone and/or an open source mobile device which is part of a networked personal wearable system which can integrate a heads up augmented reality display, PTZ cameras, wrist band displays, gesture and voice control, and specialized devices like medical diagnostics and scientific sensors.

Can you translate that to english..  

[Wulfcastle]

A group of are us are developing an ARM based coinbox for sale, and there is some overlap between the Crypti team and the coinbox team, Bitseed. We initially tried the NanoPC, a quad core ARM Cortex A9 board, which proved to be unstable. We then went to the Odroid, also a quad core board, which runs well but is too expensive to meet our sub-$100 retail price point. We are currently testing the Cubieboard2 and Cubieboard.

The product is meant to be a stand alone low power secure coinbox which can be always on to run PoS type coins, starting with NXT and Crypti pre-loaded for customer convenience.

It is also the core of our cryptocurrency based mesh networking project, where users can earn coin by providing bandwidth and storage to the mesh network, use the coin to access the network elsewhere with mobile devices, and buy or sell the coin as desired. We just had a very productive meeting with a supplier of TV whitespace electronics which has 10-15 mile range without needing line of sight with 19-21 Mbps data rates. This will allow the mesh to start with a much sparser population of nodes than is possible just using WiFi.

The development path is to start with the coinbox to get the units into the hands of users and developers, add the mesh networking hardware to the coinbox to convert it into a mesh networking node, combining the electronics into a single board system to produce a low cost stationary node capable of running on solar power, and then iteratively shrink the system to work first as a compact tethered node to operate with a mobile device, and finally, integrate it into mobile devices like the Google Ara modular phone and/or an open source mobile device which is part of a networked personal wearable system which can integrate a heads up augmented reality display, PTZ cameras, wrist band displays, gesture and voice control, and specialized devices like medical diagnostics and scientific sensors.

BitSeed, could you explain more on this highlighted part? You've got me damn well interested 

[EtherCoin]

Hey Grexx and devs,

Well here is my proposal, my logical mind was telling me to go with something sharper looking at the final selection you guys have made from 99designs, but i don't know, call it designer's inspiration or whatever



Being an investor and also heavy thread lurker (enjoying Litoshi posts specially, awesome mix of innocence and wisdom), and knowing the nature of Crypti project there are elements such as layers, interconnection, etc. in my design that I strongly feel attached with the Crypti philosophy, regardless of being quite abstract and having rotated the double "C" I think it could offer a proper visual representation.

I have used orange in my last design projects, and even though I don't like to repeat myself somehow i felt it would match well on Crypti case. Anyway as you can see there are different color versions just to let you guys have a feeling of what would look like under different prisms.

Well, hope you like it, let me know what you think.

Eth.

[jiuge]

OK, we are just going to try a different tactic. I'm just going to post whatever I want and if it doesn't work for everyone, then I guess I will just be out of a job. I'm tired.

We are working as hard as we can but this is the situation.

As we said before, we had a working, successful, and good to go 50 node test net prior to launch. Everything was golden on our side and purring like a kitten. Immediately on launch we had issues, which isn't unusual, but the syncing and forking issues continued over the last few weeks. We tried multiple fixes and different methods to patch the problems we were having but that isn't going to be enough.

PoT is not impossible. The method we were using however simply isn't scalable and does not allow consensus in the 60 second block time we are shooting for. We don't believe that going with longer blocks is scalable because at some point, you hit a threshold of nodes that isn't capable of gaining consensus. Maybe it's 10,000 nodes or maybe its 100,000, but a threshold would exist and we cannot predict the number of nodes we may one day have. That being the case, it's better to just come up with a change to the core function to allow it to be more scalable over the long term and fix this now before millions of dollars are flying around daily.

This is what we were trying to figure out. It was too lofty a goal to think we could figure it out in a couple of days and we realize that. We're sorry to leave you hanging but we thought we could come up with a solution and get it back up in a few days. Obviously that is not the case so we decided to come up with an interim solution that would be a simplified PoT system that would get the network back online ASAP and try to push it out in the next couple days.

Yesterday afternoon I drafted a blog post and submitted it as an update for review by everyone prior to posting it. It was an in depth update on what was happening and where we were at. In between when I submitted that post and now, we have continued to make huge strides on the simplified solution and it progressed much faster than we anticipated.

The new solution has been completed in testing for a large portion of today and is forging great in both the Linux and Windows wallets. I believe that we will be able to push this solution live and get the network back up in the next 12-24 hours. It's not a promise, but I think it is definitely possible and is likely.

The new simplified solution still bases forging on nodes being active, but it is a more random solution as it doesn't require sending of the extra overhead bits and isn't an http request so consensus isn't a problem in the timeframe we are aiming for. This solution works and will get us back online, but it still isn't ultimately our goal or the system we wish to implement long term. It is reminiscent of an early build we had before implementing the up-time calculations we had in the launch version.

We are working as hard as we can to complete the testing and get this version out within, as I mentioned, hopefully the next 24 hours.

At this point, we will be looking to develop a long term solution and implement a system more like what we intended. That being said, this situation is fluid and we may be having some in depth discussions on what we can accomplish and what will work while still rewarding the running of a node. Remember the goal was to reward users for running nodes in an equitable manner. There are definitely other solutions and we will be looking into them.

I will also push for community involvement and try to get you all an in depth description of the problems we were having and what was causing them so you can help analyze the flaws and help to build a system that can accomplish what we originally set out to build.

We aren't going anywhere.

We haven't given up.

We aren't scammers nor are we amateurs or incompetent and we won't stop until Crypti is a success. No matter how many of you come here and try to talk trash and scare people away, we will still be here. The price could hit ZERO and we wouldn't stop.

Bottom line:

If you are here because you support Crypti and you are capable of acting like an adult, providing constructive feedback, and possibly ideas towards how to move forward, thank you for being here and we appreciate you. We look forward to discussing it with you.

On the other hand, if you don't want to come here and act like an adult because for some reason you think it's OK to be an asshat on the internet, please just leave. You're wasting my time and I'm tired of your shit.

I'll keep you all updated as best I can on the progress.

Support but wish you solve the problem soon
Regards

[karmacoma24]

Hey Grexx and devs,

Well here is my proposal, my logical mind was telling me to go with something sharper looking at the final selection you guys have made from 99designs, but i don't know, call it designer's inspiration or whatever

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654463.msg9056695#msg9056695

Being an investor and also heavy thread lurker (enjoying Litoshi posts specially, awesome mix of innocence and wisdom), and knowing the nature of Crypti project there are elements such as layers, interconnection, etc. in my design that I strongly feel attached with the Crypti philosophy, regardless of being quite abstract and having rotated the double "C" I think it could offer a proper visual representation.

I have used orange in my last design projects, and even though I don't like to repeat myself somehow i felt it would match well on Crypti case. Anyway as you can see there are different color versions just to let you guys have a feeling of what would look like under different prisms.

Well, hope you like it, let me know what you think.

Eth.

Wow, I really like your proposal. Such beautiful design. IMO the best we've seen so far

[50cent_rapper]

EtherCoin your stuff is cool.

[Passion_ltc]

EtherCoin can you somehow implement the C into this design?

[5000Bitcoins]

https://twitter.com/moolah_io/status/517741863525437440


Fingers crossed network is up!!

[Litoshi]

https://twitter.com/moolah_io/status/517741863525437440


Fingers crossed network is up!!

Its 7 hours before MP is up again according to their twitter page

[Vagnavs]

https://twitter.com/moolah_io/status/517741863525437440


Fingers crossed network is up!!

Its 7 hours before MP is up again according to their twitter page

Well that should be interesting, whether to add or not..
Regards

[Litoshi]

https://twitter.com/moolah_io/status/517741863525437440


Fingers crossed network is up!!

Its 7 hours before MP is up again according to their twitter page

Well that should be interesting, whether to add or not..
Regards

Unless the network is up, there will be no way to get XCR over to MP to sell.  MP may fill up with BUY orders, but there will be no sell orders until we have the network online.

[5000Bitcoins]

https://twitter.com/moolah_io/status/517741863525437440


Fingers crossed network is up!!

Its 7 hours before MP is up again according to their twitter page

Well that should be interesting, whether to add or not..
Regards

Unless the network is up, there will be no way to get XCR over to MP to sell.  MP may fill up with BUY orders, but there will be no sell orders until we have the network online.

I know that. so you're saying you won't meet the MP deadline?

[Bitseed]

Hey Grexx and devs,

Well here is my proposal, my logical mind was telling me to go with something sharper looking at the final selection you guys have made from 99designs, but i don't know, call it designer's inspiration or whatever

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654463.msg9056695#msg9056695

Being an investor and also heavy thread lurker (enjoying Litoshi posts specially, awesome mix of innocence and wisdom), and knowing the nature of Crypti project there are elements such as layers, interconnection, etc. in my design that I strongly feel attached with the Crypti philosophy, regardless of being quite abstract and having rotated the double "C" I think it could offer a proper visual representation.

I have used orange in my last design projects, and even though I don't like to repeat myself somehow i felt it would match well on Crypti case. Anyway as you can see there are different color versions just to let you guys have a feeling of what would look like under different prisms.

Well, hope you like it, let me know what you think.

Eth.

Wow, I really like your proposal. Such beautiful design. IMO the best we've seen so far

Yes, very nice. Would make great poker chips as well.

[Litoshi]

https://twitter.com/moolah_io/status/517741863525437440


Fingers crossed network is up!!

Its 7 hours before MP is up again according to their twitter page

Well that should be interesting, whether to add or not..
Regards

Unless the network is up, there will be no way to get XCR over to MP to sell.  MP may fill up with BUY orders, but there will be no sell orders until we have the network online.

I know that. so you're saying you won't meet the MP deadline?

I, myself, have no control over that.