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July 27, 2014, 06:49:31 AM
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I also don't know why people refer to UtopianFuture as UP (UtopianFuture) instead of UF (UtopianFuture)


He started that himself  by using UP as "signature" in PMs and stuff. At least that's where i had it from.

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July 27, 2014, 08:27:51 AM
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That will get your account banned as posting addresses is against BT policy. Do it on your own forum

Posting tx ids or hashes isn't afaik.
Since people have to send 1 NXT from the account the asset should be issued to anway i don't see a problem.

Thanks for mentioning it though.

Hi.

I would suggest that you check this in advance with the moderator in BTT to avoid
any possible problems. (thread locking, account locking)
I remember that (K)ora distribution thread was locket when users started to post their
BTT id in it.
Maybe it will be better to have such thread on the NEM forum it will bring more users there
and maybe some of them will stay and join the movement and won't be just interested
to dump their stake.

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July 27, 2014, 08:39:12 AM
Last edit: July 27, 2014, 11:31:24 AM by patmast3r
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That will get your account banned as posting addresses is against BT policy. Do it on your own forum

Posting tx ids or hashes isn't afaik.
Since people have to send 1 NXT from the account the asset should be issued to anway i don't see a problem.

Thanks for mentioning it though.

Hi.

I would suggest that you check this in advance with the moderator in BTT to avoid
any possible problems. (thread locking, account locking)
I remember that (K)ora distribution thread was locket when users started to post their
BTT id in it.
Maybe it will be better to have such thread on the NEM forum it will bring more users there
and maybe some of them will stay and join the movement and won't be just interested
to dump their stake.


Yeah, I already sent out a pm but I have a feeling it is going to be a problem.
If the answer is as expected I guess we have to move to our forum.

Interestingly I couldn't find a specific rule that forbids posting addresses or alike. It seems that it's about insubstantial posts.

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July 27, 2014, 11:13:02 AM
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About the logo: Doesn't matter which logo is choosen, always will have controversy.

For me, IMHO, i'll just accept the logo which has more votes, even if I don't like it.

This is a gre8 community, so you could stop bitching around about the logo. Vote and accept it.

Darkcoin's logo is really beautiful, but I really doesn't think it bring more users to the coin just because the logo is beautiful.

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July 27, 2014, 12:01:12 PM
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I would be sure that you hire a professional marketing agency!

The only way to make known NEM, which costs a lot of money but there are still enough stakes available.

It will pay off!

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July 27, 2014, 12:10:06 PM
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I would be sure that you hire a professional marketing agency!

The only way to make known NEM, which costs a lot of money but there are still enough stakes available.

It will pay off!

+1  professional marketing agency COULD MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

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July 27, 2014, 12:20:42 PM
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I would be sure that you hire a professional marketing agency!

The only way to make known NEM, which costs a lot of money but there are still enough stakes available.

It will pay off!

+1  professional marketing agency COULD MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

without  a agency  NEM will never have a chance against Nxt and particularly against Etherium!
How much BTC is available?
I would even like to leave a part of my stakes for it!
I've seen too many coins that have promised much,but mo profesional MARKETING AGENCY!
for there is this company, you do not want to do everything alone!
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July 27, 2014, 12:33:00 PM
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That will get your account banned as posting addresses is against BT policy. Do it on your own forum

Posting tx ids or hashes isn't afaik.
Since people have to send 1 NXT from the account the asset should be issued to anway i don't see a problem.

Thanks for mentioning it though.

Hi.

I would suggest that you check this in advance with the moderator in BTT to avoid
any possible problems. (thread locking, account locking)
I remember that (K)ora distribution thread was locket when users started to post their
BTT id in it.
Maybe it will be better to have such thread on the NEM forum it will bring more users there
and maybe some of them will stay and join the movement and won't be just interested
to dump their stake.


Yeah, I already sent out a pm but I have a feeling it is going to be a problem.
If the answer is as expected I guess we have to move to our forum.

Interestingly I couldn't find a specific rule that forbids posting addresses or alike. It seems that it's about insubstantial posts.

How can you identify stakeholders if you move to NEM forum?
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July 27, 2014, 01:28:24 PM
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How can you identify stakeholders if you move to NEM forum?

Good question. Still thinking about how to do that.


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July 27, 2014, 01:34:21 PM
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It cannae be done surely? Node attempted to switch to their forum for distribution but quickly gave up when it proved impossible to link people to the same accounts.
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July 27, 2014, 01:40:40 PM
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How can you identify stakeholders if you move to NEM forum?

Good question. Still thinking about how to do that.



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July 27, 2014, 01:43:17 PM
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How can you identify stakeholders if you move to NEM forum?
Good question. Still thinking about how to do that.

if you don't want to receive PM alone, ask the requester to send PM to both of you at the same time. CC to me, too if you want me to check it.

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July 27, 2014, 02:18:13 PM
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I would be sure that you hire a professional marketing agency!

The only way to make known NEM, which costs a lot of money but there are still enough stakes available.

It will pay off!

+1  professional marketing agency COULD MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

without  a agency  NEM will never have a chance against Nxt and particularly against Etherium!
How much BTC is available?
I would even like to leave a part of my stakes for it!
I've seen too many coins that have promised much,but mo profesional MARKETING AGENCY!
for there is this company, you do not want to do everything alone!

I would like to see more funds go to marketing.

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July 27, 2014, 02:35:39 PM
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I would be sure that you hire a professional marketing agency!

The only way to make known NEM, which costs a lot of money but there are still enough stakes available.

It will pay off!

+1  professional marketing agency COULD MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

without  a agency  NEM will never have a chance against Nxt and particularly against Etherium!
How much BTC is available?
I would even like to leave a part of my stakes for it!
I've seen too many coins that have promised much,but mo profesional MARKETING AGENCY!
for there is this company, you do not want to do everything alone!

I would like to see more funds go to marketing.

I like NXT's marketing. Marketing is about perception and it is remarkable that NXT is considered the most innovative second gen. coin.   

A freedom fighter. Stop all your bull shit !
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July 27, 2014, 03:29:29 PM
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I would be sure that you hire a professional marketing agency!

The only way to make known NEM, which costs a lot of money but there are still enough stakes available.

It will pay off!

+1  professional marketing agency COULD MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

without  a agency  NEM will never have a chance against Nxt and particularly against Etherium!
How much BTC is available?
I would even like to leave a part of my stakes for it!
I've seen too many coins that have promised much,but mo profesional MARKETING AGENCY!
for there is this company, you do not want to do everything alone!

I would like to see more funds go to marketing.

I like NXT's marketing. Marketing is about perception and it is remarkable that NXT is considered the most innovative second gen. coin.  
nxt marketing isn't good and they have said it themselves. And nxt is currently the most innovative. We are miles behind and havnt even launched yet

IMO the last we news is some stupid lame ass marketing agency, use the community instead.

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July 27, 2014, 03:30:44 PM
Last edit: July 27, 2014, 04:31:59 PM by ARGpentem
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I would be sure that you hire a professional marketing agency!

The only way to make known NEM, which costs a lot of money but there are still enough stakes available.

It will pay off!

+1  professional marketing agency COULD MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

without  a agency  NEM will never have a chance against Nxt and particularly against Etherium!
How much BTC is available?
I would even like to leave a part of my stakes for it!
I've seen too many coins that have promised much,but mo profesional MARKETING AGENCY!
for there is this company, you do not want to do everything alone!

I would like to see more funds go to marketing.

I like NXT's marketing. Marketing is about perception and it is remarkable that NXT is considered the most innovative second gen. coin.  
nxt marketing isn't good and they have said it themselves. And nxt is currently the most innovative. We are miles behind and havnt even launched yet

No offense, that is marketing magic. I am not in "we" and I know nothing about NEM development but I hope NEM would at least have a white paper.

be clear that I am not trolling NXT. My references are in systems like  MaidSafe, Ethereum, Bitshare, CryptoNote. All of them are doing more innovative works and technically much more difficult than anything I see in NXT.

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July 27, 2014, 03:36:07 PM
Last edit: July 27, 2014, 03:49:32 PM by jkoil
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Because it is July and hot and you all are lazy, here is only one issue to be thought:

1. The logo should unify the community; it should not increase the dispersion e.g. by splitting the community into two opposite groups.

The dispersion could be avoided by a voting system which allows "negative" votes. Has such been considered?

The vote has now been thrown to the wall like a small note on the coffee room's wall: "please make a new coffee-pot after you have taken the last cup".  (this note indicates something which is obvious - something similar is in the latest vote postings: it is obvious that the "brand new" logo is the winner ... )
 
I hoped to see more discipline in this matter, despite the summer.

It would do good if you get up and do something instead of being an armchair critic. You had all the time to come out with a serious concrete plan on the logo while we "lazily" discussed about it at great length in the last month.

NEM requires people who can contribute rather that just shoot things off their mouth. That, everybody can do. Walk the talk please.

Critics and discussion are contributions. It is unfortunate that rockethead does not realize that.

Yes, it is unfortunate that I cannot realize between good critics and discussions vis-a-vis things like calling NEM team being lazy and lacking discipline, whatever they mean.


Hey you, "rocketscientist"
Don't spread the context.
The context was 'logo voting' and 'summer'.

On lazyness:
how do you call it, if there has been info in the forums/boards and that is not used?
a) that info was not useful
b) that info was not seen
c) that info was intentionally skipped

If a), then where has been discussed that eg. my Trello-comments about different voting
systems have been detected as 'not useful'?

If b) or c), then could be asked "why?".
Other options mean lazyness.





Lately I have got such a picture that, after Utopianfuture left, the NEM team is
not so concentrated, not so organized, just getting (quickly) the solutions, which "feel" good.
(yea, this was not a comment about coding process)

In the case of logo the discipline process would have requested at least 3 steps:
 1 - gathering the logo comments or at least reading all of them before starting planning the voting system
 2 - discussion about different voting systems
 3 - selecting the voting system


Were those steps used during "a serious concrete plan on the logo while we "lazily"
discussed about it at great length in the last month
" ?
I do not see that in Trello/'Logo Contest 2. Phase of Narrowing down'...







If you read my response to your accusation, you should notice that I've done my "walk".
And yes. I know that the dev team is doing their work - that was not the issue here.
During the ~ half a year I have also "walked near" the dev team; tho only doing reviews,
coz my Java skills ain't good enough.
(If being precisely, I do not know the dev team's work until I have tested it)
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July 27, 2014, 04:31:09 PM
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I would be sure that you hire a professional marketing agency!

The only way to make known NEM, which costs a lot of money but there are still enough stakes available.

It will pay off!

+1  professional marketing agency COULD MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

without  a agency  NEM will never have a chance against Nxt and particularly against Etherium!
How much BTC is available?
I would even like to leave a part of my stakes for it!
I've seen too many coins that have promised much,but mo profesional MARKETING AGENCY!
for there is this company, you do not want to do everything alone!

I would like to see more funds go to marketing.

I like NXT's marketing. Marketing is about perception and it is remarkable that NXT is considered the most innovative second gen. coin.  
nxt marketing isn't good and they have said it themselves. And nxt is currently the most innovative. We are miles behind and havnt even launched yet

No offense, that is marketing magic for people like you. I am not in "we" and I know nothing about NEM development but I hope NEM would at least have a white paper.  
what do you mean that's marketing magic for people like me? Want to explain the type of people I belong to and what the magic bit is about? Your statement, does sound offencive whether you say no offence or not and doesn't really make any sense.

I mean people with no real technical knowledge I added a comment in previous post to be more clear. NXT seem to have a disproportional number of people doing marketing but the tech is very obscure with no technical papers. I read BCNEXT''s essays and they are laughable compared to the technically superior whitepapers by Cryptonote, David Wood's Ethereum, or Maidsafe. 

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July 27, 2014, 04:58:30 PM
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What about a TV commercial or something? ive never seen a crypto tv commercial  Grin
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July 27, 2014, 05:01:30 PM
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Hey you, "rocketscientist"
Don't spread the context.
The context was 'logo voting' and 'summer'.

On lazyness:
how do you call it, if there has been info in the forums/boards and that is not used?
a) that info was not useful
b) that info was not seen
c) that info was intentionally skipped

If a), then where has been discussed that eg. my Trello-comments about different voting
systems have been detected as 'not useful'?

If b) or c), then could be asked "why?".
Other options mean lazyness.

Lately I have got such a picture that, after Utopianfuture left, the NEM team is
not so concentrated, not so organized, just getting (quickly) the solutions, which "feel" good.
(yea, this was not a comment about coding process)

In the case of logo the discipline process would have requested at least 3 steps:
 1 - gathering the logo comments or at least reading all of them before starting planning the voting system
 2 - discussion about different voting systems
 3 - selecting the voting system

Were those steps used during "a serious concrete plan on the logo while we "lazily"
discussed about it at great length in the last month
" ?
I do not see that in Trello/'Logo Contest 2. Phase of Narrowing down'...

If you read my response to your accusation, you should notice that I've done my "walk".
And yes. I know that the dev team is doing their work - that was not the issue here.
During the ~ half a year I have also "walked near" the dev team; tho only doing reviews,
coz my Java skills ain't good enough.
(If being precisely, I do not know the dev team's work until I have tested it)

Just remember you can tell by PM or post here what could be done to improve community.

Be pro-active. Its very easy tell others are lazy. And you, are you lazy? Could you have posted an suggestion before voting has started?

I really don't like tell other people I don't know how they are, in my opinion. I don't know all the context.

And I think they (devs) lose very precious time here answering some questions  that dont need answer.

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