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October 13, 2014, 01:06:48 AM
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I have 4k HYP split up into several 250 HYP blocks. Would it be better if it all was in one big block? Or does staking chances stay the same as you have multiple ones?

It is better to have bigger blocks. The recommended size is 1000-4000 HYP.

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October 13, 2014, 01:16:21 AM
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I have 4k HYP split up into several 250 HYP blocks. Would it be better if it all was in one big block? Or does staking chances stay the same as you have multiple ones?

It is better to have bigger blocks. The recommended size is 1000-4000 HYP.

Okay thanks. I guess when I purchase some more HYP, I'll rearrange the coins. It shouldn't matter however right? In the long run it'll average out or am I mistaken?

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October 13, 2014, 01:25:32 AM
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I have 4k HYP split up into several 250 HYP blocks. Would it be better if it all was in one big block? Or does staking chances stay the same as you have multiple ones?

It is better to have bigger blocks. The recommended size is 1000-4000 HYP.

Okay thanks. I guess when I purchase some more HYP, I'll rearrange the coins. It shouldn't matter however right? In the long run it'll average out or am I mistaken?

If we are talking about a long run (if you are going to open the wallet once a month, for example), then yes, smaller blocks are preferable. You won't lose part of the reward due to the max subsidy. Your small blocks just will take more time to stake.

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October 13, 2014, 01:58:16 AM
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I have 4k HYP split up into several 250 HYP blocks. Would it be better if it all was in one big block? Or does staking chances stay the same as you have multiple ones?

It is better to have bigger blocks. The recommended size is 1000-4000 HYP.

Okay thanks. I guess when I purchase some more HYP, I'll rearrange the coins. It shouldn't matter however right? In the long run it'll average out or am I mistaken?

Sure, but that is if you have a lot of blocks.... like I do. But if you have 10k or so, I would use blocks of 1k minimum. You would be surprised about how impatient you can get waiting for stake.

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October 13, 2014, 02:04:20 AM
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I have 4k HYP split up into several 250 HYP blocks. Would it be better if it all was in one big block? Or does staking chances stay the same as you have multiple ones?

It is better to have bigger blocks. The recommended size is 1000-4000 HYP.

Okay thanks. I guess when I purchase some more HYP, I'll rearrange the coins. It shouldn't matter however right? In the long run it'll average out or am I mistaken?

Sure, but that is if you have a lot of blocks.... like I do. But if you have 10k or so, I would use blocks of 1k minimum. You would be surprised about how impatient you can get waiting for stake.

Yeah, getting a bit impatient myself right now haha. When I purchase some more, I'll keep them at 3k per block. If it doesn't stake by next week I may just resize them....

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October 13, 2014, 02:05:28 AM
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Also, is it possible to config a setup using rasp pi as a dedicated staking machine? If so, could someone point me in how I should do it?

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October 13, 2014, 02:12:21 AM
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I have 4k HYP split up into several 250 HYP blocks. Would it be better if it all was in one big block? Or does staking chances stay the same as you have multiple ones?

It is better to have bigger blocks. The recommended size is 1000-4000 HYP.

Okay thanks. I guess when I purchase some more HYP, I'll rearrange the coins. It shouldn't matter however right? In the long run it'll average out or am I mistaken?

Sure, but that is if you have a lot of blocks.... like I do. But if you have 10k or so, I would use blocks of 1k minimum. You would be surprised about how impatient you can get waiting for stake.

Yeah, getting a bit impatient myself right now haha. When I purchase some more, I'll keep them at 3k per block. If it doesn't stake by next week I may just resize them....

I keep mine around 3100-3500 and they typically stake within 9-13 days. I don't mind because the award just increases with time.
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October 13, 2014, 02:17:42 AM
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I have 4k HYP split up into several 250 HYP blocks. Would it be better if it all was in one big block? Or does staking chances stay the same as you have multiple ones?

It is better to have bigger blocks. The recommended size is 1000-4000 HYP.

Okay thanks. I guess when I purchase some more HYP, I'll rearrange the coins. It shouldn't matter however right? In the long run it'll average out or am I mistaken?

Sure, but that is if you have a lot of blocks.... like I do. But if you have 10k or so, I would use blocks of 1k minimum. You would be surprised about how impatient you can get waiting for stake.

Yeah, getting a bit impatient myself right now haha. When I purchase some more, I'll keep them at 3k per block. If it doesn't stake by next week I may just resize them....

I keep mine around 3100-3500 and they typically stake within 9-13 days. I don't mind because the award just increases with time.

but but but the compound interest xD

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October 13, 2014, 03:34:15 AM
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I have 4k HYP split up into several 250 HYP blocks. Would it be better if it all was in one big block? Or does staking chances stay the same as you have multiple ones?

It is better to have bigger blocks. The recommended size is 1000-4000 HYP.

Okay thanks. I guess when I purchase some more HYP, I'll rearrange the coins. It shouldn't matter however right? In the long run it'll average out or am I mistaken?

Sure, but that is if you have a lot of blocks.... like I do. But if you have 10k or so, I would use blocks of 1k minimum. You would be surprised about how impatient you can get waiting for stake.

(grin) I come from TEK. 10-12 days ain't shit!
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October 13, 2014, 03:51:38 AM
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Guess I am use to HBN & CAP.  I just let them continue staking until they get to a small amount and it starts causing pc to run slow.  Currently running HBN, CAP & HYP on an old Dell pc.  I started with the original cut over from trk and bought some that week when HYP was around 700.   I have not combined any since the first week and I am currently getting 6 - 10 stakes a day.  I do have some that are 25 - 32 aged days but they will stake soon, if not I will still wait.  I do not want to lose coins by re-combining coins.  The wallet is currently on pace to hit the monthly 60%. 
   When I bought the coins on the exchange, I didnt move them all into the wallet in one chunk.  I moved a portion each day so that I will have stakes every day.  When I get those 6 - 10 stakes I do not seem to worry about the ones that are staking around 25 - 25 aged days.   Just be patient and the stakes will come in.
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October 13, 2014, 04:06:10 AM
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Everyone please remember to regularly backup you wallet.dat file
Why?
Is there extra information in time?
Normaly 1 backup is more than suficient.


Actually, yes, there is. As more staking occurs, and change addresses are used, more keypairs are generated. I don't know what the keypool default is for HYP, but once those keys are used up, new keys are generated. If they aren't backed up, and something goes south, they're lost. It's a good idea for the sake of paranoia to do a weekly backup.


But when you use only 1 adres for block split-up then it is not a problem?
Whey using other addresses in one wallet?
I saw it on the pictures but do not understand the reason.
It is also not in the NOOP link for splitting up blocs with coin control.

Nice exchange rate for HYP!

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October 13, 2014, 04:20:34 AM
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Everyone please remember to regularly backup you wallet.dat file
Why?
Is there extra information in time?
Normaly 1 backup is more than suficient.


Actually, yes, there is. As more staking occurs, and change addresses are used, more keypairs are generated. I don't know what the keypool default is for HYP, but once those keys are used up, new keys are generated. If they aren't backed up, and something goes south, they're lost. It's a good idea for the sake of paranoia to do a weekly backup.


But when you use only 1 adres for block split-up then it is not a problem?
Whey using other addresses in one wallet?
I saw it on the pictures but do not understand the reason.
It is also not in the NOOP link for splitting up blocs with coin control.

Nice exchange rate for HYP!


Well its just the way the wallet works. Let say you have a block of 1000 HYP and you want to send 250 of it to me.  Unless you use a custom change address from the coin control features, it will automatically send 250 HYP to me, and then 750 HYP to a change address that is generated by your wallet. So for example if you are using stake for charity, which lots of people do, then you are getting many change addresses. I am adding the custom change address to stake for charity soon.

As long as you always use your own address in the custom change address then you should not have to worry about updating your backups. One backup would be good enough.

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October 13, 2014, 06:37:11 AM
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For any of you who missed the action a few hours ago, HYP was on a real roll - and watching the scramble to grab hold of 100k HYP as it hit the market was manic! Bought in less than 5 seconds! Wow..... just wow!

At the time, Coinmarketcap.com placed us at position 50 - it's a little lower today, but still, 58 is great position, and will continue to advance I'm sure.

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October 13, 2014, 06:41:31 AM
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Everyone please remember to regularly backup you wallet.dat file
Why?
Is there extra information in time?
Normaly 1 backup is more than suficient.


Actually, yes, there is. As more staking occurs, and change addresses are used, more keypairs are generated. I don't know what the keypool default is for HYP, but once those keys are used up, new keys are generated. If they aren't backed up, and something goes south, they're lost. It's a good idea for the sake of paranoia to do a weekly backup.


But when you use only 1 adres for block split-up then it is not a problem?
Whey using other addresses in one wallet?
I saw it on the pictures but do not understand the reason.
It is also not in the NOOP link for splitting up blocs with coin control.

Nice exchange rate for HYP!


Well its just the way the wallet works. Let say you have a block of 1000 HYP and you want to send 250 of it to me.  Unless you use a custom change address from the coin control features, it will automatically send 250 HYP to me, and then 750 HYP to a change address that is generated by your wallet. So for example if you are using stake for charity, which lots of people do, then you are getting many change addresses. I am adding the custom change address to stake for charity soon.

As long as you always use your own address in the custom change address then you should not have to worry about updating your backups. One backup would be good enough.
Thanks, it is more ore less clear. I 'm just a beginner and with 5000 HYP I only donate to my own wallet now so now no change adressed are generated.
After receipt of interest there are no new change address gererated right?
So if there are no extra change addresses visable in coin controll 1 backup is suficient?

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October 13, 2014, 06:49:08 AM
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until now I have not got any problem in staking my coin,.
everything work well
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October 13, 2014, 07:02:01 AM
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Polo exchange has also been manic too - no2 on their top trades for the past 24 hours, taking 8.7% of their total trades!!!!!!!

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October 13, 2014, 12:38:21 PM
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Found some interesting reading just now - take a look at PressF1's data he's pulled on the growth of High POS coins, I've highlighted the HYP data below:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=241445.msg9173744#msg9173744

It was some work but here it is. The development of the money supply of 2014 for HBN, CAP, TEK and HYP, all of them HighPOS coins.

I wondered how fast does this money supply increases for these coins? After all, interest rates varying from 100% till 750% is quite unheard of.
Well, check it out yourself, on the first of every month you'll find the block and the moneysupply at that exact moment. So everyone can check this if they like.
The last figure is the important one. There you find how much the supply has increased in a month. First HBN:


      HBN 100%POS        
                Block   MoneySupply   Increase/mth
1-1-2014   461136   2330766      26,0%
1-2-2014   550116   2778403      19,2%
1-3-2014   630790   3206341      15,4%
1-4-2014   719789   3671800      14,5%
1-5-2014   806508   4106540      11,8%
1-6-2014   898413   4629448      12,7%
1-7-2014   988559   5068546      9,5%
1-8-2014   1080369   5521192      8,9%
1-9-2014   1173120   5985846      8,4%
1-10-2014   1262548   6467925      8,1%

HBN is in line with previous observations: the monthly increase of the money supply is quite low and getting lower every month.  


      CAP 200%POS            
                Block   MoneySupply   Increase/mth
1-1-2014   271241   2416978      18,4%
1-2-2014   315427   2709892      12,1%
1-3-2014   355404   2928686      8,1%
1-4-2014   399401   3170570      8,3%
1-5-2014   432912   3420718      7,9%
1-6-2014   476848   3680285      7,6%
1-7-2014   519426   4046888      10,0%
1-8-2014   565946   4812616      18,9%
1-9-2014   613331   5583618      16,0%
1-10-2014   662054   6367469      14,0%

For CAP, the increase is higher, reflecting a higher POS percentage. But also dropping. Interesting to see: POS-rate change from 1% to 200% in July.


      TEK 500%POS            
                Block   MoneySupply   Increase/mth
1-1-2014   167445   203260      54,8%
1-2-2014   211821   281447      38,5%
1-3-2014   251768   387792      37,8%
1-4-2014   295710   533996      37,7%
1-5-2014   338564   715259      33,9%
1-6-2014   382532   986066      37,9%
1-7-2014   425505   1349745      36,9%
1-8-2014   469608   1830289      35,6%
1-9-2014   514595   2113023      15,4%
1-10-2014   569714   2421990      14,6%

TEK looks different. High increase and hardly any decline. Except for the last 2 months. But that's due to Fork issues. For 1-11, expect it back at around 35% again.


     HYP 750%POS      
                Block   MoneySupply   Increase/mth
1-1-2014        
1-2-2014        
1-3-2014        
1-4-2014        
1-5-2014        
1-6-2014        
1-7-2014   27154   8485253  
1-8-2014   44901   10557791   24,4%
1-9-2014   74355   14826453   40,4%
1-10-2014   103019   22309537   50,5%

HYP looks different again. It seems the monthly increase is highest of all and is still increasing as well.
I say still because the block chain is young and increasing increase with a fixed percentage is impossible.
I checked today and from 1-10 till today the percentage is already stabilizing somewhere between 45%-50%.


So quite amazing to see this all happening.
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October 13, 2014, 02:51:47 PM
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Yep, money supply is still in heavy expansion mode for HYP. In the coming months it will begin to slow down as more and more blocks have to work against the maximum subsidy.  This will be interesting to watch, and I encourage everyone to use the "moneysupply" RPC command that gives some of this important growth rate figures.

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October 13, 2014, 03:50:17 PM
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Everyone please remember to regularly backup you wallet.dat file
Why?
Is there extra information in time?
Normaly 1 backup is more than suficient.


Actually, yes, there is. As more staking occurs, and change addresses are used, more keypairs are generated. I don't know what the keypool default is for HYP, but once those keys are used up, new keys are generated. If they aren't backed up, and something goes south, they're lost. It's a good idea for the sake of paranoia to do a weekly backup.


But when you use only 1 adres for block split-up then it is not a problem?
Whey using other addresses in one wallet?
I saw it on the pictures but do not understand the reason.
It is also not in the NOOP link for splitting up blocs with coin control.

Nice exchange rate for HYP!


Well its just the way the wallet works. Let say you have a block of 1000 HYP and you want to send 250 of it to me.  Unless you use a custom change address from the coin control features, it will automatically send 250 HYP to me, and then 750 HYP to a change address that is generated by your wallet. So for example if you are using stake for charity, which lots of people do, then you are getting many change addresses. I am adding the custom change address to stake for charity soon.

As long as you always use your own address in the custom change address then you should not have to worry about updating your backups. One backup would be good enough.
Thanks, it is more ore less clear. I 'm just a beginner and with 5000 HYP I only donate to my own wallet now so now no change adressed are generated.
After receipt of interest there are no new change address gererated right?
So if there are no extra change addresses visable in coin controll 1 backup is suficient?
Depends on how you've got your wallet set up. Here's how to make sure:

One, if you haven't already, activate coin control.  Click on Tools, then Options, then display and click the display coin control checkbox.
Two, go to the send tab. Click on "custom change address checkbox. Paste in a receiving address from your wallet.

Now all generated transactions will go to that address rather than pulling a new one from the keypool.
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October 13, 2014, 04:29:01 PM
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@Biomech thanks1
I've activated coin control.
I like that feature of this con.
I only not understand why extra coin addresses are needed?
Just like to have just one wallet address.

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