Is anyone following the Israel & Palestine Situation.

[bryant.coleman]

you realize that china and russia are friends of israel and despite what they condem could care less about gaza and will never help.

The only factor that alienates Israel from Russia / China is its friendship with the USA. Other than that, they get along very well. Also, some one-sixth of all Israelis are Russian-speaking and they have strong ties back to Russia.

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[x0Jakeyboy0x]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=484063485029672

Awesome video.

[freedomno1]

Looks like today a rocket got 4 children on the Beach and a 5 Hour Cease Fire
Israel, Hamas agree to Gaza 'humanitarian' pause
Israel to hold its fire for five hours on Thursday for Palestinians to restock food and necessities
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-hamas-agree-to-gaza-humanitarian-pause-1.2708280

[Alphi]

Can you imagine if there was a murder in your neighbourhood and the murderer was still on the run..

can you imagine if instead of conducting a manhunt, searching for the murderer and trying to bring him to justice.. they police simply shot at every single house where they thought he might be?

can you imagine if they blew up your house looking for the guy ?
can you imagine they killed your wife and child hoping to hit the murderer.

can you imagine trying to run away from the chaos but not being able to leave because your town is surrounded on all sides by a 10 foot wall.


how would you feel?
would you feel like justice is being carried out or would you feel like you have nothing left to live for?

there is no justice, no compassion for the innocent... only senseless violence, terror and hopelessness.

this is the reality of the situation in Isreal right now. (Gaza and the west bank are not a separate country they are ghettos created by Isreal, because the Isrealis will not give them independence)

The Isreali government do not realise that for every single innocent person they kill they plant the seeds of bitter resentment which will fester and radicalise an entire generation of children who have lost their parents or siblings and their will to live a peaceful life.

the Isreali government do not realise (or perhaps do not care) that the collective punishment and terror that was afflicted upon them by the Nazis prior to WWII they are now inflicting on others.

on the other side
the Hamas government do not realise that the more they try to use violence to get what they want the more innocent people will die.

all acts of violence against innocent people is senseless and morally wrong no matter which side of the fence you sit on.

regardless of race, religion or creed... I do not associate myself with or do business with anyone who believes that the killing of innocent people is justified no matter what the circumstances... and I never will..

I have always been disgusted by acts of terror carried out by islamic fundamentlists.. and now I am equally disgusted with the acts of terror being carried out by the isreali government.


when will this madness ever end....

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

Edmund Burke

[Alphi]

You're about to get wiped out yourself dude. Better get packing! The action is just getting started!

Bobsurplus you are a disgusting troll.
how can you taunt people when so much shit is going down right now?

I hope I never have the displeasure of meeting you in person or doing business with you in any capacity.

I have a big problem with innocent people being victimised.. but I have no problem with dickheads being punched in the head.

p.s. I remember you and I'm glad you lost a bucket load of money on cryptocoins because you deserve it.... ain't karma a bitch.

[vual]

Israeli kids signing rockets before they fly to Gaza, killing hundreds of innocent civilians, including little precious kids.

This is not a religious war, nor is it directed towards "terrorists" (Israel is the biggest terrorist and if you use your brain, 9/11 wasn't a terrorist attack and it is scientifically proven, so stop blaming Muslims for everything because they are only baits). This is genocide. This is Hitler all over again!

Get that head of yours out of the TV and grow some brain cells...

I'm not a Muslim, or a follower of any other religion. I am human, and humans don't get pleasure watching other innocent people suffer, no matter how justified those acts are...



 

what the fuck................
Are they fucked in the head or what......
honestly how do they think that is ok..

[vual]

You're about to get wiped out yourself dude. Better get packing! The action is just getting started!

Why are we still talking bob??
]I thought you got embarrassed and left because you are married to a GOYM and are not a real jew just a pretentious pretender....
Tell me every time you touch your wife do you wash your hands?? Doubt it.... your a pretender not even a jew..
do you eat kosher tell me ??

[Alphi]

what the fuck................
Are they fucked in the head or what......
honestly how do they think that is ok..

don't blame the children, they are just doing what they are taught by some of the stupidest adults on earth.

[Swordsoffreedom]

what the fuck................
Are they fucked in the head or what......
honestly how do they think that is ok..

don't blame the children, they are just doing what they are taught by some of the stupidest adults on earth.

What would that be don't have fun at the beach and then say hello to my little friend the Tomohawk missile while playing there
 The eight young friends wandered down to Gaza City’s bombed-out harbour on Wednesday afternoon to try and escape the terrible monotony of war.

Instead, as they played on the beach, they met the full horrors of Israel’s bloody conflict with Hamas. An apparent naval bombardment left four of them dead and the rest suffering from serious wounds and shock.

There had seemed little danger as the boys scavenged for metal and played hide-and-seek around a fisherman’s container hut that lay in ruins after being a target for heavy shelling in recent days.

Suddenly, with ear-splitting ferocity, the container was on the receiving end of direct hits that killed four boys – all members of the Bakr families – and sent four others scurrying for cover.

Moments later, as they fled across the sand close to a scattering of makeshift tents, another shell struck close to where they ran, seriously injuring three from shrapnel and leaving another traumatised.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/10972390/Israel-strike-kills-four-boys-on-Gaza-beach-as-humanitarian-ceasefire-announced.html

[Smack That Ace]

what the fuck................
Are they fucked in the head or what......
honestly how do they think that is ok..

don't blame the children, they are just doing what they are taught by some of the stupidest adults on earth.

What would that be don't have fun at the beach and then say hello to my little friend the Tomohawk missile while playing there
 The eight young friends wandered down to Gaza City’s bombed-out harbour on Wednesday afternoon to try and escape the terrible monotony of war.

Instead, as they played on the beach, they met the full horrors of Israel’s bloody conflict with Hamas. An apparent naval bombardment left four of them dead and the rest suffering from serious wounds and shock.

There had seemed little danger as the boys scavenged for metal and played hide-and-seek around a fisherman’s container hut that lay in ruins after being a target for heavy shelling in recent days.

Suddenly, with ear-splitting ferocity, the container was on the receiving end of direct hits that killed four boys – all members of the Bakr families – and sent four others scurrying for cover.

Moments later, as they fled across the sand close to a scattering of makeshift tents, another shell struck close to where they ran, seriously injuring three from shrapnel and leaving another traumatised.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/10972390/Israel-strike-kills-four-boys-on-Gaza-beach-as-humanitarian-ceasefire-announced.html

This is what you call HELL ON EARTH !!!
every day that passes by things get worst and nobody is standing up for these poor children.
My heart bleeds for them, i cant sleep anymore thinking what if it was us that was being terrorized by Israel
Oh wait - WE ARE being terrorized by ISRAEL AKA AMERICANS AKA ZIONIST
Disclaimer: By ISRAEL i dont mean jews or the people living there i mean these terrorist and puppets of the new world order

[Bobsurplus]

You're about to get wiped out yourself dude. Better get packing! The action is just getting started!

Bobsurplus you are a disgusting troll.
how can you taunt people when so much shit is going down right now?

I hope I never have the displeasure of meeting you in person or doing business with you in any capacity.

I have a big problem with innocent people being victimised.. but I have no problem with dickheads being punched in the head.

p.s. I remember you and I'm glad you lost a bucket load of money on cryptocoins because you deserve it.... ain't karma a bitch.

Bucketload? Nahhh.. I lost a few stacks on emc2 but that's just how the game goes.

As for my comment, he was warned to leave and he was just trolling here on this thread. Have not heard from him in a while. Wonder what happened?

A large ground attack is currently underway, if he was smart, he'd be somewhere in the Mediterranean treading water and allowing the IDF to do its job!

[Bobsurplus]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=484063485029672

Awesome video.

Thanks, I thought so!

[MJ1990]

Israel: A Terrorist Success Story

by Rob Miller

"If there was an Academy Awards ceremony for terrorism, Israel would sweep every category—and every acceptance speech would have to thank the government of the United States, whose generous support has made Israel the most successful terrorist state in the world.

How do you measure the success of terrorism? Is it by the numbers of civilians killed, maimed and terrorized or the level of disruption and fear brought to people’s daily lives? Israel scores very highly on both these counts.

Israel has its own special way of recognizing the achievements of its great terrorists—by electing them its prime minister. There are no less than three Israeli prime ministers who have long terrorist histories.

Israel has its own special way of recognizing the achievements of its great terrorists—by electing them its prime minister.
The current prime minister, Ariel Sharon, cemented his place in the hall of fame with his leading role in the 1982 invasion of Lebanon, including the massacres by Israeli-backed militias in the Palestinian refugee camps of Sabra and Shatilla. Earlier in his Israeli army career Sharon was responsible for the slaughter of 69 civilians in the Qibya village in Jordanian-controlled territory in 1953.

The Israeli prime minister at the time of the 1982 invasion, Menachem Begin, was a leader of the Irgun, one of the main terrorist groups in the Zionist movement. In the 1930s and 1940s the Zionists were trying to establish the Israeli state in what was then British-occupied Palestine.

In 1937, the Irgun launched a terror campaign against Palestinian civilians, setting off bombs in markets and attacking buses. In one attack on the Haifa fruit market 74 Arabs were killed and 129 wounded. In 1946, the Irgun set off a bomb in the King David Hotel in Jerusalem killing about 100 Arab, British and Jewish victims.

Another Israeli prime minister, Yitzhak Shamir, started his career in this same period as a leader of the Zionist terrorist group, the Stern gang. The Stern gang was responsible for the assassination of the UN mediator in Palestine, Count Folke Bernadotte, and a French UN observer in September 1948.

Begin and Shamir both went on to play a crucial role in the terrorist activities carried out during the 1948 war.

“Ethnic Cleansing”

Ethnic cleansing was always going to be essential to achieving the Zionist movement’s aim of creating a Jewish state in Palestine. This movement sought to escape the oppression suffered by Jewish minorities throughout history by setting up a state controlled exclusively by Jews, ruling over a country in which Jews were the majority. The process of creating such a state in Palestine would inevitably involve systematic discrimination against the non-Jewish people of Palestine.

Through a combination of lobbying, military force and terrorist activity the Zionist movement was able to win the support of the US and other powerful nations for a UN partition plan which would create a Jewish state in Palestine. The 1947 UN partition plan violated the right of the Arabic-speaking Palestinian people to national self-determination, as it denied them the opportunity to vote on whether or not they agreed to the UN plan to hand over a part of their national homeland to a colonial-settler state.

Ethnic cleansing was always going to be essential to achieving the Zionist movement’s aim of creating a Jewish state…
The UN plan was also grossly unfair in that it granted the 30% of the population who were Jewish 54% of the land of Palestine, including the most fertile areas. Despite the obvious bias of the UN plan in favor of Zionism, it did not resolve the “Arab question.”

In the area allocated to the Jewish state, Jews only barely outnumbered Palestinians (498,000 Jews to 497,000 Palestinians) and at this time the Zionist settlers only owned 6% of the land.

The solution was ethnic cleansing. By waging a war of terror against the civilian Palestinian population, the Zionists were able to occupy 81% of the total area of Palestine by the end of the 1948 war.

On April 9, 1948, the Irgun and the Stern gang attacked the village of Deir Yasseen and massacred 120 villagers. To ensure that the massacre had maximum effect in forcing Palestinians to flee, the terrorist forces raped women and girls, butchered infants and cut open the womb of a nine-months pregnant woman.

This was just one of a number of massacres that terrorized more than 90% of the Palestinian population into fleeing their homes.

After forcing the Palestinian population to flee the villages, the Israeli forces would often blow up the houses to ensure the residents had nothing to return to. To reinforce the point, the Israeli authorities then “legally” confiscated the homes, fields and property of all Palestinians who had not been in their “regular place of residence” on September 1, 1948.

Today there are more than 3.7 million Palestinian refugees registered by the UN and about another 2 million who are not registered. Palestinian refugees are not allowed to return, despite the fact that under international law they have every right to. UN resolution 194, passed in 1948, explicitly affirms this right—but Israel’s defiance of this resolution goes unpunished by the UN and the US.

While the Palestinian victims of Israeli terrorism are left to rot in refugee camps, Israel struts the world stage claiming to be a democracy. This Israeli form of “democracy” is based on driving out more than half the indigenous population of the country and thereby denying their right to participate in any aspect of society.

Meir Kahane, one of Israel’s best known civilian terrorists, openly acknowledged this fact. According to Kahane: “There is no question of setting up democracy in Israel because democracy means equal rights for all, irrespective of racial or religious origins. You can’t, on the one hand, want a Jewish state and, at the same time, give non-Jews the right to become a majority.”

Denying the right of Palestinian refugees to return is therefore essential to maintaining Israeli “democracy.”

Hostage Taking

Hollywood has produced numerous films in which “evil terrorists,” usually Arabs, take innocent civilians, usually Americans, hostage and make demands that must be met before the hostages are released.

We all know the script: the ruthless hijackers kill a hostage to show they mean business, the US government refuses to negotiate with terrorists, one of the hostages is a Special Forces-trained superhero who leads the fight against the hijackers, eventually killing them all and setting the hostages free.

These “Hollywood principles” generally reflect the public stance of the US government in relation to terrorism. This tough “no negotiations, blow the terrorists away” stance was exactly that taken by the US and its allies in relation to the Taliban’s offer to negotiate an international trial for bin Laden.

Do these principles apply to Israel?

Israel’s 1948 acquisition of territory by force went unpunished. No doubt encouraged by this success, in 1967 Israel invaded the rest of Palestine and parts of Egypt and Syria, taking millions of civilians hostage. Israel demanded that its “right to exist” be recognized before it would withdraw and release the hostages. The passing of UN Security Council resolution 242 calling on Israel to withdraw from the occupied territories had no effect.

In 1973, Egypt and Syria took military action to attempt to free their citizens and territory held hostage by Israel, exercising their right to self-defense under international law. The US response was to provide Israel with all the emergency military aid it needed to defeat Egypt and Syria.

During the 1982 invasion of Lebanon the civilian toll from the terrorist activities of the Israeli army was 12,000 killed, 40,000 wounded, 300,000 homeless.

Over the course of the invasion the Israeli army used a range of terror weapons on civilians including cluster bombs and phosphorous bombs and shells. The use of phosphorous bombs and shells for military objectives is banned under the 1980 UN Geneva convention.

This description of their effect by journalist Robert Fisk explains why: “Dr. Shamaa found that the two five-day old twins had already died but they were still on fire. ‘I had to take the babies and put them in buckets of water to put out the flames,’ she said. ‘When I took them out half an hour later they were still burning.’”

The Israeli army entrusted the dirtiest work of the invasion to their right-wing Lebanese allies, the Phalangists. On September 15, 1982, the Israeli army sealed the Sabra and Shatilla refugee camps in West Beirut and Israeli defense minister Ariel Sharon authorized a unit of 150 Phalangists to enter the camps.

The Phalangists proceeded to slaughter at least 1000 Palestinian and Lebanese civilians over a two-day period while the Israeli army looked on.

Just because Israel is the most successful terrorist state in the world does not mean there is no role for Israeli civilians in carrying out terrorist acts.

On February 25, 1994, Barukh Goldstein, an Israeli settler, massacred around 50 Palestinian worshippers at the Ibrahimi mosque in Hebron. Goldstein was a well-known leader of Kach, an extreme right-wing Zionist organization.

Wearing a military uniform he entered the mosque and emptied two clips of a machine gun into Muslim worshippers. In the two weeks following the massacre, the Israeli army continued Goldstein’s work by killing another 30 Palestinians.

For the past 34 years Israeli soldiers have held up Palestinian civilians at gunpoint on a daily basis.
While fanatical settlers such as Goldstein are directly involved in terrorizing Palestinian civilians, it is the “ordinary” Israeli settlers who provide a cover and excuse for Israeli state terrorism and further ethnic cleansing.

Protecting these Israeli civilians provides an excuse for the Israeli army to station large numbers of troops in the Palestinian territories. The land on which these illegal settlements are built, and the “security zones” around them, is confiscated from Palestinians. To ensure the settlers can travel freely, “Israeli-only” roads have been built which divide the Palestinian territories and have required the confiscation of even more Palestinian land.

While renowned for its large-scale atrocities, Israel combines this with smaller-scale daily terrorism, which has the greatest impact. For the past 34 years Israeli soldiers have held up Palestinian civilians at gunpoint on a daily basis.

For Palestinians, the people who may kill them are not invisible; they are right in front of them every day pointing automatic weapons at them as they go about their daily business. They are the Israeli soldiers at the checkpoints, who may open fire at a suspicious movement, and the armed settlers, many of whom believe Palestinians should be expelled at gunpoint.

This is not an abstract fear, as most Palestinians have a close relative who has been killed or wounded by the Israeli army or have had their homes blown up or bulldozed by the Israelis as punishment for resisting the occupation.

According to Amnesty International, 2650 Palestinian houses were destroyed by Israel between 1987 and 2000.

The support of the US government has been crucial to Israel’s terrorist success. The US continues to provide Israel with massive levels of military and non-military aid: $US3 billion in 1997 alone and a total $US74 billion since 1949.

With the continuing support of the US government, Israel’s position in terrorism’s number one spot looks secure for some time. On the same day that the Israeli army continued its ethnic cleansing program by demolishing 18 Palestinian houses in Gaza, the US called on Palestinians to stop their violence and crack down on terrorism so that “negotiations” with Israel can continue."

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQQIYx99Zec&feature=share

[Smack That Ace]

Well written MJ 1990.

I only wish that everyone on this forum was as passionate as you about the cause.

We can only try to convince them and rally this movement.

I will be replying back to all those people interested in setting up the charity tonight once i get done from my work load

Once again thankyou for you support and constant information that you have provided.

A special shout out to MJ1990 and THE VUAL for their motivating posts.

Regards

Duke

[Meni Rosenfeld]

FACT:
"GOY" or "GOYIM" means CATTLE/UNCLEAN and refers to all non-Jews.

That's false. "Goy" means "a people". By extension, it refers to the peoples other than the Jewish people, that is, non-Jews.
 

FACT:
The Jews don't have a devil or Satan as their "bad guy." Their "bad guy" is ALL NON-JEWS!!!

In Judaism, there is a Satan, though his role is different than in Christianity. He indeed is not the bad guy. He works for God and his job is to strengthen people's spirituality by challenging them with temptations (which, hopefully, they overcome). Also to prosecute them for any sins they may have committed.

While the Halakha does have some laws that belittle non-Jews, they are not AFAIK considered "The bad guys".

Anyway, most Jews in Israel are secular and pay little heed to these matters.

[MJ1990]

Well written MJ 1990.

I only wish that everyone on this forum was as passionate as you about the cause.

We can only try to convince them and rally this movement.

I will be replying back to all those people interested in setting up the charity tonight once i get done from my work load

Once again thankyou for you support and constant information that you have provided.

A special shout out to MJ1990 and THE VUAL for their motivating posts.

Regards

Duke

It's not about being passionate, it's about being human.

[EinsteiniumWisdom]

Alphi shut the hell up, you know nothing. You just hate Jews and Israel. If a two state solution happened tomorrow, people like you would continue to hate and launch rockets because you have no real point. your just full of hate and this whole hate speech just proves it. Israel has offered a state like 10 times and the Arabs reject it because they don't want a state they want the death of Israel.

you hide your hatred behind a false humanitarian cause, why are you not all up in arms about Syria, or the treatment of Palestinian refugees by other Arabs in Arab countries their refugee camps? I bet you cant even tell me about those situations because you don't know. If it doesn't involve hating the Jews , then it appears you really haven't taking any time to learn about it.

because you are a fucking racist so stop pretending to be a liberal with a just humanitarian cause,

I AS  HUMAN BEING WITH A HEART UNLIKE YOU! actually do feel bad for the Palestinians but any idiot can see by reading anything Hamas says or looking at the history of peace negotiations between PLO and Israel, that the reason this is happening to the PALESTINIANS is cause they continuously chose to attack rather then work out long term peace.

you haven't listed the source of any of your bullshit you just keep making arduous claims full of hate.

and what were all suppose to trust you cause your angry and write a lot of posts?


If you really want to help end this war GROW UP, SHUT UP and do some research and look at both sides.

Can you imagine if there was a murder in your neighbourhood and the murderer was still on the run..

can you imagine if instead of conducting a manhunt, searching for the murderer and trying to bring him to justice.. they police simply shot at every single house where they thought he might be?

can you imagine if they blew up your house looking for the guy ?
can you imagine they killed your wife and child hoping to hit the murderer.

can you imagine trying to run away from the chaos but not being able to leave because your town is surrounded on all sides by a 10 foot wall.


how would you feel?
would you feel like justice is being carried out or would you feel like you have nothing left to live for?

there is no justice, no compassion for the innocent... only senseless violence, terror and hopelessness.

this is the reality of the situation in Isreal right now. (Gaza and the west bank are not a separate country they are ghettos created by Isreal, because the Isrealis will not give them independence)

The Isreali government do not realise that for every single innocent person they kill they plant the seeds of bitter resentment which will fester and radicalise an entire generation of children who have lost their parents or siblings and their will to live a peaceful life.

the Isreali government do not realise (or perhaps do not care) that the collective punishment and terror that was afflicted upon them by the Nazis prior to WWII they are now inflicting on others.

on the other side
the Hamas government do not realise that the more they try to use violence to get what they want the more innocent people will die.

all acts of violence against innocent people is senseless and morally wrong no matter which side of the fence you sit on.

regardless of race, religion or creed... I do not associate myself with or do business with anyone who believes that the killing of innocent people is justified no matter what the circumstances... and I never will..

I have always been disgusted by acts of terror carried out by islamic fundamentlists.. and now I am equally disgusted with the acts of terror being carried out by the isreali government.


when will this madness ever end....

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

Edmund Burke

[Starscream]

FACT:
"GOY" or "GOYIM" means CATTLE/UNCLEAN and refers to all non-Jews.

Only because you wrote the word "fact" in capital letters doesn't mean it's a fact.
Educate yourself, it won't hurt, I promise: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goy

tl;dr it's a words used to describe anyone that's non jewish, that's all.

FACT:
The Jews don't have a devil or Satan as their "bad guy." Their "bad guy" is ALL NON-JEWS!!!

Actually, Satan is mentioned in the bible several times: Book of Job, Book of Zechariah and more.
If anything, the bad "guy" according to the Jewish bible is the amalek, which BTW is extinct, and is used now as a cursing word.

You should really refrain from using the word fact when it really isn't. Makes you look like a fool.

[koshgel]

Alphi shut the hell up, you know nothing. You just hate Jews and Israel. If a two state solution happened tomorrow, people like you would continue to hate and launch rockets because you have no real point. your just full of hate and this whole hate speech just proves it. Israel has offered a state like 10 times and the Arabs reject it because they don't want a state they want the death of Israel.

When has Israel EVER offered two state solution? Netanyahu specifically said he would never consider that. Please provide a single source where it was ever offered by Israel