Is anyone following the Israel & Palestine Situation.

[Alphi]

Orthodox Jews marching alongside Palestinians and people from many other countries in protests just 2 weeks ago in London...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg_1UqeVIZ8

do you see any Palestinian supporters trying to hurt the Jews? do you see any Jews trying to hurt the Palestinians?
do you see anyone being shot or beaten?

this is how real democracy is carried out.
Isreal supporters should be ashamed for calling themselves democratic they should be ashamed for calling themselves Jews when they support the brutal oppression of other people.

these guys in the video are the real Jewish heroes speaking their mind without bashing anyone.

Jews and Palestinians living together peacefully this is what the Israeli Propaganda machine doesn't want you to know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18bBl6dI5_M

and here is the Pro Isreal side..... where are the Jews? why cant I see any orthodox Jews protesting for Isreal?
why is the Pro Isreal group so tiny?

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[Starscream]

Orthodox Jews marching alongside Palestinians in protests just 2 weeks ago in London...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg_1UqeVIZ8

do you see any Palestinian supporters trying to hurt the Jews? do you see any Jews trying to hurt the Palestinians?
do you see anyone being shot or beaten?

this is how real democracy is carried out.
Isreal supporters should be ashamed for calling themselves democratic they should be ashamed for calling themselves Jews when they support the brutal oppression of other people.

these guys in the video are the real Jewish heroes speaking their mind without bashing anyone.

Jews and Palestinians living together peacefully this is what the Israeli Propaganda machine doesn't want you to know.

lol
“kill Jews, “Hitler should finish you off,”
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/israel-supporters-attacked-by-crowd-shouting-kill-jews-in-canada/

Scroll down and you'll see more of your "peaceful" demonstration in French
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/07/21/pro-gaza-rallies-worldwide-tainted-by-anti-semitism-calgary-organizer-to-apologize-for-violence/

Belgium:
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.606834

[BCEmporium]

I have here a picture of ONE lion who's friendly to a zebra. Don't tell me ALL lions and zebras can be friends!
Don't get me wrong, it's always nice to see people get along, but those videos and pics prove nothing in the countries' context.

[TheIrishman]

Israeli cabinet rejects US proposal for "humanitarian pause" in Gaza fighting

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/25/israel-rejects-us-ceasefire-proposal

<< Binyamin Netanyahu's ministers turn down ceasefire plan on day when Gaza's death toll passes 820. >>

[kuroman]

Dont see a problem with arresting members of an internationally recognised terror group.

Except that most of the people that were arrested were innocent, and the other part that were released, were leased following a deal that WAS NOT HONOROD by Israel but again you are derailing from the fact the point you claimed that Hamas started the hostilities, where did that go?

Self defence=retaliating against the rocket fire on Israel coming out of Gaza.

Source for that 1 children per hour?
Anyway children die in war.
I dont know what kind of a genocider gives warning to civilians before bombing terror sites,gives free electricity,medicine and other supplies for the victim. Also the growing Palestinian population shows this is not a genocide. If Israel wanted to genocide the Palestinians,they would have already done it long ago.

Thats your own definition on self definition here is the definition of self defense according to prominent dictionaries, and in the law  :
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/self-defense
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/self-defence
http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/self-defense
http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=1909
http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/self-defense.html

Use of reasonable force (as compared with the attacker's force) in protection of one's person, family, property, or anyone else against attempted or threatened attack. Legal doctrine of self defense justifies a preemptive action taken in the reasonable belief of immediate danger, without making any retreat, and may (specially in case of provocation) condone killing of the perpetrator of a murderous attack.

Except that as proven above it was Israel that attacked first, so this whole argument is totally false as and by your logic here it's Hamas that is on self defense here (Hamas in my eyes is a terrorist group as they targeting indiscriminately Israeli civilians but Israel is even worse by this same definition)

As for Israel warning civilians please lol, the so called warning bombs killed over 30 Palestinians, there thousands of strikes that were made without warning, you seems to avoid the part when I site the example of the 8 years old children that were playing in the beach, or just today the UN Shelter that was blown to dust resulting in the death of 30-40 Palestinians and hundreds of injuries (this is a crime war btw according to UN rules)

This is a genocide, look up the recent genocides listed according to the UN, and you'll see that what's happening in Gaza is similar to those in terms of numbers and events

When you investigate a murder,you're gonna arrest some people,especially in a hostile territory where every citizen can be a murder suspect due to their extreme hate of Jews&Israel
The question "who started" will take you nowhere and can go back to 1948. i can say Hamas started by suicide attacking Israelis in 2002.
Israel can't make warning for every attack,the target can escape.
I didn't say Israel is always 100% right,but people,including innocents die during war.
That UN school might have hosted hamas rockets,who knows? they found Hamas rockets in UNRWA schools twice,therfore making it a valid target
http://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/press-releases/unrwa-condemns-placement-rockets-second-time-one-its-schools
Define "Genocide"

Do you even read what I'm saying or just posting blindly again the same thing, You are repeating the same things that were answered point by point, read again please and can you please answer what was mentioned on point as for the origins of the conflicts, it's 1948 the problems started at the end of the 19 century with the birth of Zionism and it became serious after WWI but that's not the point you are just dodging the point where you claimed that this event is Hamas fault, which was proven wrong

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_toll

I gave you the definition of genocide ...

if the Palestinians are not in this list (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_toll) does not mean that there is not a GENOCIDE! 


 

a genocide is listed after it's over, not while it's happening, also the US is blocking anything that would condemn this as a Genocide officially check out the the list of UN resolutions against Israel that Vetoed and were Vetoed by who, as for the definitions, like I said before, what's happening in Palestine falls into that definition, and the most recent genocides listed are on pare of what happening in Palestine right now, in terms of numbers and the way it's happening

[Tusk]

This is a Zionist symbol

http://www.zfa.com.au/wp-content/uploads/ZFA-Symbol-Only-Colour.jpg


This is an apartheid south African swastika

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-2XTDc98peCo/TYpR3ZTC4vI/AAAAAAAAAD4/uovAC9QkRUs/s1600/awb.png


when you compare the two its just plain creepy....

Aapartheid anywhere is creepy, Israel included 

[redsn0w]

Dont see a problem with arresting members of an internationally recognised terror group.

Except that most of the people that were arrested were innocent, and the other part that were released, were leased following a deal that WAS NOT HONOROD by Israel but again you are derailing from the fact the point you claimed that Hamas started the hostilities, where did that go?

Self defence=retaliating against the rocket fire on Israel coming out of Gaza.

Source for that 1 children per hour?
Anyway children die in war.
I dont know what kind of a genocider gives warning to civilians before bombing terror sites,gives free electricity,medicine and other supplies for the victim. Also the growing Palestinian population shows this is not a genocide. If Israel wanted to genocide the Palestinians,they would have already done it long ago.

Thats your own definition on self definition here is the definition of self defense according to prominent dictionaries, and in the law  :
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/self-defense
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/self-defence
http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/self-defense
http://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=1909
http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/self-defense.html

Use of reasonable force (as compared with the attacker's force) in protection of one's person, family, property, or anyone else against attempted or threatened attack. Legal doctrine of self defense justifies a preemptive action taken in the reasonable belief of immediate danger, without making any retreat, and may (specially in case of provocation) condone killing of the perpetrator of a murderous attack.

Except that as proven above it was Israel that attacked first, so this whole argument is totally false as and by your logic here it's Hamas that is on self defense here (Hamas in my eyes is a terrorist group as they targeting indiscriminately Israeli civilians but Israel is even worse by this same definition)

As for Israel warning civilians please lol, the so called warning bombs killed over 30 Palestinians, there thousands of strikes that were made without warning, you seems to avoid the part when I site the example of the 8 years old children that were playing in the beach, or just today the UN Shelter that was blown to dust resulting in the death of 30-40 Palestinians and hundreds of injuries (this is a crime war btw according to UN rules)

This is a genocide, look up the recent genocides listed according to the UN, and you'll see that what's happening in Gaza is similar to those in terms of numbers and events

When you investigate a murder,you're gonna arrest some people,especially in a hostile territory where every citizen can be a murder suspect due to their extreme hate of Jews&Israel
The question "who started" will take you nowhere and can go back to 1948. i can say Hamas started by suicide attacking Israelis in 2002.
Israel can't make warning for every attack,the target can escape.
I didn't say Israel is always 100% right,but people,including innocents die during war.
That UN school might have hosted hamas rockets,who knows? they found Hamas rockets in UNRWA schools twice,therfore making it a valid target
http://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/press-releases/unrwa-condemns-placement-rockets-second-time-one-its-schools
Define "Genocide"

Do you even read what I'm saying or just posting blindly again the same thing, You are repeating the same things that were answered point by point, read again please and can you please answer what was mentioned on point as for the origins of the conflicts, it's 1948 the problems started at the end of the 19 century with the birth of Zionism and it became serious after WWI but that's not the point you are just dodging the point where you claimed that this event is Hamas fault, which was proven wrong

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_toll

I gave you the definition of genocide ...

if the Palestinians are not in this list (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_toll) does not mean that there is not a GENOCIDE! 


 

a genocide is listed after it's over, not while it's happening, also the US is blocking anything that would condemn this as a Genocide officially check out the the list of UN resolutions against Israel that Vetoed and were Vetoed by who, as for the definitions, like I said before, what's happening in Palestine falls into that definition, and the most recent genocides listed are on pare of what happening in Palestine right now, in terms of numbers and the way it's happening

in fact ( I have said that? )  now in palestine there is a genocide ! But no one intervene .

[Possum577]

You get the award for the funniest thread headline.

This has literally been the biggest story in the news for the last two weeks.

Awful stuff going on, I hope the peace talks can be product and long lasting. War doesn't win, only peace.

[u9y42]

You get the award for the funniest thread headline.

This has literally been the biggest story in the news for the last two weeks.

Awful stuff going on, I hope the peace talks can be product and long lasting. War doesn't win, only peace.

Well, sadly, weapons manufacturers win big time - not only in the sales they make with all this, but also in the advertisement they get out of it: "these are field tested on live targets" (that is, on Palestinians).

[ivonna]

You get the award for the funniest thread headline.

This has literally been the biggest story in the news for the last two weeks.

Awful stuff going on, I hope the peace talks can be product and long lasting. War doesn't win, only peace.

Well, sadly, weapons manufacturers win big time - not only in the sales they make with all this, but also in the advertisement they get out of it: "these are field tested on live targets" (that is, on Palestinians).

I don't think that weapons manufacturers need to say that they have been tested on real targets as the vast majority of targets have not been tested this way

[Alphi]

Another interesting report from RT about the problems in Iraq and Gaza as well as a former IDF soldier discussing the issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHWhp70pszU

[NapoleonBonaparte]

The leadership from the Palestine side has no interest in peace. They want to use this as an excuse to rally Muslim all over the world against US, which work for the half witted population.

[Alphi]

The leadership from the Palestine side has no interest in peace. They want to use this as an excuse to rally Muslim all over the world against US, which work for the half witted population.

it seems to have worked on you too, looks like you fell into their trap.. you had better flee to Isreal there are more Muslims in Europe and the USA than in Isreal... only the Zionists can save you from the Muslims hiding under your bed...

[Alphi]

this cartoon is tragically funny but also brutally honest..

http://www.globetoday.com/one-of-the-most-beautiful-accurate-and-true-cartoons-ever-a-masterpiece/#

 

[BCEmporium]

The leadership from the Palestine side has no interest in peace. They want to use this as an excuse to rally Muslim all over the world against US, which work for the half witted population.

US?! 

If there's a place Muslims can rally over with some legitimacy is US. They barely had contact with US in the past, but in the last 70 years they been eating all the crap from USA for no reason (other than steal their resources, that is). US treats those guys as plain slaves, take down and put up their dictators, put those guys to Guantanamo without shred of evidence, and so on...

Oh! But yada yada 9/11. 9/11? Way before that US already had:

- Set up Israel.
A bit questionable why, but if we go around old American jokes we can find a lot of them with prejudice against American Jews. Probably USA saw it as a good way to dump those guys somewhere.

- Supported Iraq against Iran, including supplying chemical weapons to Saddam, who didn't took much time before dump it over the Iranians.

- Attacked Iraq to support Kuwait.

- Put up and replaced, put up and replaced again, and again... the Persian Shah. Until they got fed up and started to support the Ayatollahs.

And the list goes on and on...

You need to cut those guys some slack, damn it!

[Alphi]

5 Reasons Why Israel is an Apartheid State

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPX0F-UqF-k

this is an editorial more than it is news and you can tell that RT are clearly biased against Israel, but even if you check the facts you will see that they aren't lies.


And This is what the Isreali government and Hamas don't want you to see..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-65yxrGMCGc

if you want the madness to end then reject right wing extremism and get behind the cause.

#JewsAndArabsRefuseToBeEnemies


and here is a video of some of the bravest people in Isreal they dare to stand against the oppression knowing that they could be jailed or beaten at any time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DuKTI7caiA

[Starscream]

5 Reasons Why Israel is an Apartheid State

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPX0F-UqF-k

this is an editorial more than it is news and you can tell that RT are clearly biased against Israel, but even if you check the facts you will see that they aren't lies.


And This is what the Isreali government and Hamas don't want you to see..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-65yxrGMCGc

if you want the madness to end then reject right wing extremism and get behind the cause.

#JewsAndArabsRefuseToBeEnemies


and here is a video of some of the bravest people in Isreal they dare to stand against the oppression knowing that they could be jailed or beaten at any time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DuKTI7caiA

Always some retard gets to the point of Israel being apartheid.

"reasons" lol. Israel, as a fact, doesn't fall under the category of an apartheid state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apartheid
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/01/opinion/israel-and-the-apartheid-slander.html?_r=0

"In assessing the accusation that Israel pursues apartheid policies, which are by definition primarily about race or ethnicity, it is important first to distinguish between the situations in Israel, where Arabs are citizens, and in West Bank areas that remain under Israeli control in the absence of a peace agreement.

In Israel, there is no apartheid. Nothing there comes close to the definition of apartheid under the 1998 Rome Statute: “Inhumane acts ... committed in the context of an institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any other racial group or groups and committed with the intention of maintaining that regime.” Israeli Arabs — 20 percent of Israel’s population — vote, have political parties and representatives in the Knesset and occupy positions of acclaim, including on its Supreme Court. Arab patients lie alongside Jewish patients in Israeli hospitals, receiving identical treatment."

And for that dumbass that shouts genocide. You're shooting your own foot, yelling "wolf, wolf" when there's none.

As for the UN and HRW bullshit, it's a rigged game anyway, as explained here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbkGY1paqaM
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ece_1310634740

[petestheman]

5 Reasons Why Israel is an Apartheid State

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPX0F-UqF-k

this is an editorial more than it is news and you can tell that RT are clearly biased against Israel, but even if you check the facts you will see that they aren't lies.


And This is what the Isreali government and Hamas don't want you to see..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-65yxrGMCGc

if you want the madness to end then reject right wing extremism and get behind the cause.

#JewsAndArabsRefuseToBeEnemies


and here is a video of some of the bravest people in Isreal they dare to stand against the oppression knowing that they could be jailed or beaten at any time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DuKTI7caiA

Always some retard gets to the point of Israel being apartheid.

"reasons" lol. Israel, as a fact, doesn't fall under the category of an apartheid state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apartheid
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/01/opinion/israel-and-the-apartheid-slander.html?_r=0

"In assessing the accusation that Israel pursues apartheid policies, which are by definition primarily about race or ethnicity, it is important first to distinguish between the situations in Israel, where Arabs are citizens, and in West Bank areas that remain under Israeli control in the absence of a peace agreement.

In Israel, there is no apartheid. Nothing there comes close to the definition of apartheid under the 1998 Rome Statute: “Inhumane acts ... committed in the context of an institutionalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any other racial group or groups and committed with the intention of maintaining that regime.” Israeli Arabs — 20 percent of Israel’s population — vote, have political parties and representatives in the Knesset and occupy positions of acclaim, including on its Supreme Court. Arab patients lie alongside Jewish patients in Israeli hospitals, receiving identical treatment."

And for that dumbass that shouts genocide. You're shooting your own foot, yelling "wolf, wolf" when there's none.

As for the UN and HRW bullshit, it's a rigged game anyway, as explained here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbkGY1paqaM
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ece_1310634740

When you have to snoop down to the technical definition of an apartheid state to justify it not being one then there is something wrong. We have come a long way from extreme racism and for any state to have to defend itself against people calling it an apartheid state there has to be some sort of legitimacy behind it. You do not see any other countries being called apartheid (that may be because they aren't racist fucks).

[Starscream]

When you have to snoop down to the technical definition of an apartheid state to justify it not being one then there is something wrong. We have come a long way from extreme racism and for any state to have to defend itself against people calling it an apartheid state there has to be some sort of legitimacy behind it. You do not see any other countries being called apartheid (that may be because they aren't racist fucks).

Horseshit.
Apartheid is apartheid.
You know something is wrong when people need to lie in order to get some attention and more so, when they justify those lies.

Incorrectly spewing bullshit and propaganda doesn't mean there's some "legitimacy' behind it.

If you are called a murderer by a brainless mob when you never in fact killed anyone, does it mean there's legitimacy behind it?

Your comment is a typical post for a sheep: "because others say so, that must be true".

And the world hasn't come a "long" way since anywhere. 200k dead in Syria is a proof. The fact NK is still up and running is a proof. The Millions who've been killed in China is a proof.
The fact that people in those pro palestinians rallies target Jewish institutes is a proof.

[Alphi]

if its not apartheid then what should we call it when police and settlers shoot and kill protesters because of what they look like?

self defence?

http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Report-Three-Palestinians-killed-in-West-Bank-violence-368926

why don't they shoot and kill orthodox Jews that protest?

If your Jewish you get water cannons and batons.. if you are Palestinian you get live ammunition shot at you... come and visit our lovely country Isreal the perfect place for your next holiday....