Is anyone following the Israel & Palestine Situation.

[BCEmporium]

hmm I'm starting to see a pattern here...

A pattern that dates back from before the memory of times on that region... and way before there was a people named "Jews" or a people named "Arabs".
Hope they find peace one day, but I seriously doubt I'll live that longer to see it myself.

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[newflesh]

Gaza: another UN school hit in further night of fierce bombardment



http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/30/gaza-another-un-school-hit-in-further-night-of-fierce-bombardment

Officials say more than 40 people died in Gaza as Israel continued heaviest bombing of 23-day campaign

[redsn0w]

Watch this video ... it's a miracle!


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10154333702010048

[solid12345]

Officials say more than 40 people died in Gaza as Israel continued heaviest bombing of 23-day campaign

Funny how Israel supposedly keeps hitting these schools and civilians left and right yet I have yet to see any reports of Hamas fighter casualties, they must be ninja warriors I tell ya.

[newflesh]

Officials say more than 40 people died in Gaza as Israel continued heaviest bombing of 23-day campaign

Funny how Israel supposedly keeps hitting these schools and civilians left and right yet I have yet to see any reports of Hamas fighter casualties, they must be ninja warriors I tell ya.

Fairly sure there have been reports of Hamas casualties, seems like a large proportion of Israel's super accurate laser guided missiles have killed only civilians:

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UN: 'world stands disgraced' as shelter for Gaza children is shelled by Israel

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/30/world-disgrace-gaza-un-shelter-school-israel

The UN agency for Palestinian refugees said the shelling of the school, being operated by the UN as a refugee camp, was a "serious violation of international law"

[newflesh]

Bolivia declares Israel a terrorist state

https://news.yahoo.com/bolivia-declares-israel-terrorist-state-184920411.html

Bolivia on Wednesday renounced a visa exemption agreement with Israel in protest over its offensive in Gaza, and declared it a terrorist state.

President Evo Morales announced the move during a talk with a group of educators in the city of Cochabamba.

It "means, in other words, we are declaring (Israel) a terrorist state," he said.

The treaty has allowed Israelis to travel freely to Bolivia without a visa since 1972.

Morales said the Gaza offensive shows "that Israel is not a guarantor of the principles of respect for life and the elementary precepts of rights that govern the peaceful and harmonious coexistence of our international community."

More than two weeks of fighting in Gaza have left 1,300 dead and 6,000 wounded amid an intense Israeli air and ground campaign in response to missile attacks by the Islamist militant group Hamas.

In the latest development, 16 people were killed after two Israeli shells slammed into a United Nations school, drawing international protests.

Bolivia broke off diplomatic relations with Israel in 2009 over a previous military operation in Gaza.

In mid-July, Morales filed a request with the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights to prosecute Israel for "crimes against humanity."

[Alphi]

Bolivia declares Israel a terrorist state

https://news.yahoo.com/bolivia-declares-israel-terrorist-state-184920411.html

Morales said the Gaza offensive shows "that Israel is not a guarantor of the principles of respect for life and the elementary precepts of rights that govern the peaceful and harmonious coexistence of our international community."

Morales has Morals.
I think its time for people to call for Obama to give back his Nobel peace prize if he isn't going to work for it.

Noam Chomsky believes that this whole conflict would be over in a heart beat if the US threatened to end all military aid to Isreal.
but they wont do it because Obama is too weak to stand up in congress and push for it.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Bolivia declares Israel a terrorist state

https://news.yahoo.com/bolivia-declares-israel-terrorist-state-184920411.html

Morales said the Gaza offensive shows "that Israel is not a guarantor of the principles of respect for life and the elementary precepts of rights that govern the peaceful and harmonious coexistence of our international community."

Morales has Morals.
I think its time for people to call for Obama to give back his Nobel peace prize if he isn't going to work for it.

Noam Chomsky believes that this whole conflict would be over in a heart beat if the US threatened to end all military aid to Isreal.
but they wont do it because Obama is too weak to stand up in congress and push for it.

The problem is that Israel doesn't care about it all of Latin America is pretty much condemning them heck even here in North America but our government is deeply entrenched with Israel.

That said they will need to pay no one can get away with all the crimes Israel does for longer blow up enough UN buildings and refugees and even the West won't be able to Justify Israels right to self defense.

Morales said the Gaza offensive shows "that Israel is not a guarantor of the principles of respect for life and the elementary precepts of rights that govern the peaceful and harmonious coexistence of our international community."

More than two weeks of fighting in Gaza have left 1,300 dead and 6,000 wounded amid an intense Israeli air and ground campaign in response to missile attacks by the Islamist militant group Hamas.

In the latest development, 16 people were killed after two Israeli shells slammed into a United Nations school, drawing international protests.

Bolivia broke off diplomatic relations with Israel in 2009 over a previous military operation in Gaza.

In mid-July, Morales filed a request with the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights to prosecute Israel for "crimes against humanity."

[Nemo1024]

Bolivia declares Israel ‘terrorist state’, scraps visa exemption agreement
http://rt.com/news/176852-bolivia-israel-terrorist-state/

Bolivia has declared Israel to be a “terrorist state” and renounced a visa exemption agreement with the country in protest over the ongoing Israeli military offense in Gaza which already killed more than 1,300 dead and left over 7,000 wounded.

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US condemns shelling of UN school in Gaza but restocks Israeli ammunition 

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/30/us-firm-condemnation-shelling-un-school-gaza



- White House issues unusually strong rebuke after 16 deaths
- But Pentagon confirms that US resupplied Israel with ammunition

[Nemo1024]

Israel always the victim… especially when it’s the executioner
http://rt.com/op-edge/176960-israel-gaza-conflict-executioner/

An Op-Edge with Nile Bowie is a political analyst and photographer currently residing in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

[kuroman]

Israel always the victim… especially when it’s the executioner
http://rt.com/op-edge/176960-israel-gaza-conflict-executioner/

An Op-Edge with Nile Bowie is a political analyst and photographer currently residing in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

There are different strategies invented by the Israelis and this is one of them, you can read all about them from Israeli sources as they described in details. and all this to counter any "peace offensive" (again an Israeli made word that you can find informations on) made by the Palestinian government such as the unity government that was formed by US and EU blessing just before the start of all these attacks.

[Alphi]

Anonymous 'knocks out' Mossad website over Israel’s Gaza offensive

http://rt.com/news/176888-anonymous-hacks-mossad-site/

[Swordsoffreedom]

72 Hours of Peace in the Middle east
Ceasefire to come in effect but this thread will carry on
Israel and Hamas have agreed to a 72-hour ceasefire in the Gaza Strip starting on Friday.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-hamas-agree-to-72-hour-ceasefire-in-gaza-1.2724432

[martinnew]

72 Hours of Peace in the Middle east
Ceasefire to come in effect but this thread will carry on
Israel and Hamas have agreed to a 72-hour ceasefire in the Gaza Strip starting on Friday.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-hamas-agree-to-72-hour-ceasefire-in-gaza-1.2724432

That ceasefire should be forever. Love not war. 

[Robert Paulson]

US condemns shelling of UN school in Gaza but restocks Israeli ammunition 

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/30/us-firm-condemnation-shelling-un-school-gaza



- White House issues unusually strong rebuke after 16 deaths
- But Pentagon confirms that US resupplied Israel with ammunition

Israel is America's aircraft carrier in the middle east of course they will be resupplied.
what the Palestinians are doing is basically attacking the equivalent of America's sixth fleet  .

[AT101ET]

Hamas breached the ceasefire by kidnapping a IDF soldier and killing 2 soldiers shortly after.
Hamas are the problem. Once they are outed, full peace will commence in Israel and Gaza.
Most Palestinians in Gaza know that, but when they try to speak up they get killed by Hamas.

[Alphi]

Hamas breached the ceasefire by kidnapping a IDF soldier and killing 2 soldiers shortly after.
Hamas are the problem. Once they are outed, full peace will commence in Israel and Gaza.
Most Palestinians in Gaza know that, but when they try to speak up they get killed by Hamas.

if Hamas was the only problem then there would be peace in the west bank... but there isn't.
most people do not even know what Isreal is doing to the Palestinians in the west bank because they aren't firing rockets and being bombed.
but the people in the west bank are being slowly and silently choked by constant Isreali oppression and human rights abuses...

yes Hamas is a road block to peace but so too is the right side of Isreal.

here is an interesting debate about the underlying problem behind the Isreal / Palestine conflict

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6lwgCs2PNM


I have heard plenty of arguments from Pro Isreali people asking the question... What would America do if Mexico started launching rockets into Texas..
but the real questions are..

What would Mexico do if US citizens started sneaking across the border into Mexico and taking land that legally they had no right to take. and what would mexico do if the US government was paying those US citizens 20,000 each to go and live in Mexico on stolen land. What would Mexicans do if those land thieves were shooting at Mexican citizens and beating them on a daily basis. what would Mexicans do if they had walls being built not around mexico but around US communities inside Mexico. what would Mexicans do if US soldiers had a checkpoint on every road between every major city in mexico? what would Mexicans do if their water was being stolen by those US settlers? etc etc etc.

or

What would Mexico do if the US surrounded and completely blockaded it form land see and air for 7 years.


does anyone honestly think that the peaceful people of mexico would just take that kind of abuse..  would Isrealis take that kind of abuse? would anyone take that kind of abuse?

I very much doubt it.

[AT101ET]

The only reason for the blockade is because Hamas makes use of weapons to continue with terror.
Once there is no Hamas and no radicalism, the blockade will be lifted.
If this really is all about the blockade, then I'm sure there are plenty of other ways of negotiating to lift it other than cold blooded murder and war.

Re the land thing, that's not the biggest problem either. The world should be more interested in helping the civilians in Gaza live a normal life where they're free from any harm.
With Hamas as the governing body, all money/aid is used towards terror. Why has there never been any proper infrastructure built despite the materials that are allowed through the blockade? Hamas uses it to build tunnels and prevents re civilians from living a decent life.

Get rid of Hamas, the blockade opens. Life quality increases and then everyone can sit at a table like adults to discuss and negotiate land and boundaries.

If this is all about Humanitarian needs, then for christ sake, the world should actually do something instead of condemning Israel. As long as Hamas attacks Israel, there will always be an ongoing conflict. Disarm Hamas and the world can live in peace.

Simples. 

[DodoB]

Hamas breached the ceasefire by kidnapping a IDF soldier and killing 2 soldiers shortly after.
Hamas are the problem. Once they are outed, full peace will commence in Israel and Gaza.
Most Palestinians in Gaza know that, but when they try to speak up they get killed by Hamas.

if Hamas was the only problem then there would be peace in the west bank... but there isn't.
most people do not even know what Isreal is doing to the Palestinians in the west bank because they aren't firing rockets and being bombed.
but the people in the west bank are being slowly and silently choked by constant Isreali oppression and human rights abuses...

yes Hamas is a road block to peace but so too is the right side of Isreal.

here is an interesting debate about the underlying problem behind the Isreal / Palestine conflict

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6lwgCs2PNM


I have heard plenty of arguments from Pro Isreali people asking the question... What would America do if Mexico started launching rockets into Texas..
but the real questions are..

What would Mexico do if US citizens started sneaking across the border into Mexico and taking land that legally they had no right to take. and what would mexico do if the US government was paying those US citizens 20,000 each to go and live in Mexico on stolen land. What would Mexicans do if those land thieves were shooting at Mexican citizens and beating them on a daily basis. what would Mexicans do if they had walls being built not around mexico but around US communities inside Mexico. what would Mexicans do if US soldiers had a checkpoint on every road between every major city in mexico? what would Mexicans do if their water was being stolen by those US settlers? etc etc etc.

or

What would Mexico do if the US surrounded and completely blockaded it form land see and air for 7 years.


does anyone honestly think that the peaceful people of mexico would just take that kind of abuse..  would Isrealis take that kind of abuse? would anyone take that kind of abuse?

I very much doubt it.

Hamas violated the ceasefire by kidnapping a soldier,dumbest thing to do. hundreds of Palestinians will die and dozens of Israelis as a result,and guess what? they still wont get their land back. this round is mainly Hamas fault.

And BTW,the US did grab Texas from Mexico.