Is anyone following the Israel & Palestine Situation.

[Alphi]

And Zionist will control bitcoin too, you have no choice you must blow up with a explosive vest to protest ! 

oh thats really dirty...
you just trolling now...

sorry I got no time for children who make comments like that.

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[Starscream]

About that.
Yeah, you guys don't blow up the house of a terrorist, you just shot an airplane full of civilians down.

Sorry, heard in to many places that Kiev shot the airplane down and it wouldn't be the first time Kiev shots down a civilian airplane.

you really show your true ignorant colours here... and how lacking your comprehension skills are.

you accuse my country of shooting down the plane where its own citizens died?
you don't even know what my country is and you make stupid claims like that.

please take your propaganda and BS somewhere else.. you are a sad excuse for a human being.
if you love the oppression and destruction of palestinians so much then go back there and fight for what you believe in instead of hiding behind a keyboard.

I showed you countless examples of well educated Jewish scholars who do not agree with your countries Zionist policies and propaganda.
and in return you show me nothing but Zionist propaganda.

You choose to shut your eyes and ears and follow in the footsteps of nationalism..the very same nationalism that lead to the rise of Nazis in germany...

I am not calling you a Nazi I am calling you a closed minded bigot and coward.
Do you even know what Nazi means? it means National Socialist..... it started with Racial Pride and Nationalism and ended with the Holocaust. You think Jews cant be nationalists? please get a dictionary and look up the definition of Zionism.

you are too blinded by your own sense of superiority that you cannot see that you have lost your humanity and your thinking has begun to follow that path.
I really feel sorry for you.

you have my pity.
I pity you because you are a disgrace to Jewish people everywhere a disgrace to Isreal and a disgrace to humanity.

The war between Hamas and Isreal is not my fight... I support neither side... I do not even live in that region, and now thanks to nationalistic idiots like you.. I will never support Isreal as long as it is run by people like you.

you want the world to stay out of your business?..  I am more than happy to oblige and turn by back on you and the countless other bigots that think like you do.

Lol
You are so pathetic.

You call yourself neutral but you compare Israel to hitler, you use the word genocide lightly and you do comparison with the nazis.

The moment someone calls bullshit on your country you're butt-hurt, going all defensive, irony?

Fact: Kiev shot civilian airplanes in the past, Kiev murdered innocent people with intent.
Just look how many thread claim it here alone.

I think the ones who showed their true colors here is you.

And as I have said, I already served my time in the army, I did and do what I believe in, you on the other hand, is just a keyboard warrior, never lifted a finger in your life, hiding behind someone elses trouble and ignoring your own countrys lack of moral.
Somewhat like... Assad.
Murdering thousands every year but still has the balls to call others murderers. Hmm.
Typical.

You're just a kid who's feeding of the news and haven't got the slightest clue of what's really going on.
So go spread w/e bullshit propoganda and lies you read on the news (because god forbid you'd think and experience the truth for yourself) and repeat as you are told.

lol. what a sad story of a sheep you are.

[BCEmporium]

It's not flash news that the inventors of banking are still in control of most of it and they do support Israel. Because they alone can fund more than we all together, boycott them is pretty much useless, we would like a group of ants trying to stop an elephant.

It's also noticeable that Israel hasn't wipe Palestine this far, because unlike Palestinians, Israelis actually can erase Palestine of the map. I don't doubt that if Palestinians had the same fire power wouldn't think much before wipe Israel.

[hologram]

oh thats really dirty...
you just trolling now...

sorry I got no time for children who make comments like that.

First I was very pro-palestinian but more i read on this conflict more my view become balanced. obviously i hasn't read only pro-palestinian radicalization BS...

[hologram]

It's not flash news that the inventors of banking are still in control of most of it and they do support Israel. Because they alone can fund more than we all together, boycott them is pretty much useless, we would like a group of ants trying to stop an elephant.

It's also noticeable that Israel hasn't wipe Palestine this far, because unlike Palestinians, Israelis actually can erase Palestine of the map. I don't doubt that if Palestinians had the same fire power wouldn't think much before wipe Israel.

That's a very powerful point. Palestinian describe them as humanist but if they would have advanced weapon they would not use it with the same moderation than Israel.

[Alphi]

The problem is not simple, the only way to solve it is the war with the consequent abandonment of the land of one of the two peoples

this is the unique solution !

that wont happen any time soon both sides have been trying to get each other out for more than 50 years.
people who say they want peace but keep attacking each other are just lying to themselves and everyone around them.

[hologram]

that wont happen any time soon both sides have been trying to get each other out for more than 50 years.
people who say they want peace but keep attacking each other are just lying to themselves and everyone around them.

People who want peace but ask for unfair concession from Israeli too.

[Alphi]

real Jews speaking out against Zionism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3SJYRkI2hM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IapWP8hq9Mc

this is not propaganda this is what real Jews think about the state of Isreal.

people who blindly follow whatever the Isreali government says should listen to the voices of their own people and make up their minds about what is right and wrong.


im sure I could find plenty of videos with real Muslims speaking out against Hamas too but most of it is in Arabic which I cannot speak.

[martinnew]

The problem is not simple, the only way to solve it is the war with the consequent abandonment of the land of one of the two peoples

this is the unique solution !

that wont happen any time soon both sides have been trying to get each other out for more than 50 years.
people who say they want peace but keep attacking each other are just lying to themselves and everyone around them.

Agree on this one. It seems no side is willing to leave a place they both believe are theirs.

[BCEmporium]

What does it count for what Jews outside of Israel think or don't? Or Muslims outside of Palestine? Will it change anything? No!
Stop wasting time with pretense humanism and opinions! That makes absolutely no difference and you can find opinions for pretty much anything around from any group.
The only ones that can take action are Israelis and Palestinians.

[bryant.coleman]

Israeli casualties are mounting. Either the Israeli forces are being led by incompetent officers, or the Hamas is getting quite a lot of outside support (through Sinai / Egypt?). More than two dozen Israelis killed so far.

[Tusk]

And Israel is not getting supported by the US Palestinians have the right to self determination, resist the illegal occupation of their land and the building of illegal settlements. Let Israel try that in any country and see if the outcome would be any different.  

[Tusk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXRO1YFreNA

[burekzastonj]

Most of the world is following that situation, but people watching it can't change a thing. All you can do is to learn from it not to be stupid to go for a war. It doesen't matther what or where you are from, keep in mind that you can prevent stuff like that from happening from your way of thinking.

[Starscream]

real Jews speaking out against Zionism

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3SJYRkI2hM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IapWP8hq9Mc

this is not propaganda this is what real Jews think about the state of Isreal.

people who blindly follow whatever the Isreali government says should listen to the voices of their own people and make up their minds about what is right and wrong.


im sure I could find plenty of videos with real Muslims speaking out against Hamas too but most of it is in Arabic which I cannot speak.

lol, and here I thought you can't get more stupid.
While there are "Jews" that outright oppose the state of Israel (these aren't the ones, if you'd actually bother to watch what you linked), those orthodox Jews are opposing the change in law, which granted them immunity from serving in the army, from paying tax and from getting free monthly salary from the government.
Until a year ago (and it's still WIP) orthodox Jews did not serve in IDF under the law of "his belief - his arts" (translates bad into English), this law not only gave them immunity from serving in IDF but also gave them immunity from paying tax and allowed them to receive monthly salary from the government under the condition that they would spend their time in the "y'sivot" - Studying of the bible.
Those orthodox Jews believe that there's no need for a real army and that being they call a god will protect the Jews.

This wasn't a problem back when the law was first instated, because those orthodox Jews were a very small minority and also it was limited to about 1,000 orthodox Jews to be allowed to use the law.
Since then the limited was lifted and the orthodox Jews increased in size a few folds and have become a burden on the regular joes that work and pay taxes.

When the latest government was formed, for the first time in a long time, the orthodox parties didn't not make it into the coalition, and instead, more middle parties made it, which allowed the change of the law (but it hasn't taken into affect just yet).

The fact that some extremist take it to the level of saying Israel shouldn't exist is nothing more but political games. And you'd know it if you'd invest 5 minutes researching the topic.

But hey, nothing is easier and requires less brain power than to google and paste the first links you see that suits your propoganda.

[Alphi]

Most of the world is following that situation, but people watching it can't change a thing. All you can do is to learn from it not to be stupid to go for a war. It doesen't matther what or where you are from, keep in mind that you can prevent stuff like that from happening from your way of thinking.

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[Swordsoffreedom]

Just as a curiosity why won't Israel just let the Palestine trade normally with other countries
Besides the need of occupation and what not Hama's one demand seems fairly reasonable.
End the Gaza Blockade
http://metronews.ca/news/world/1102661/hamas-leader-demands-end-to-gaza-blockade/

“We cannot go back, we cannot go back to the silent death” of the blockade, he said. “Gaza has decided to end the blockade by its blood and by its courage.”

Israel allows many consumer goods into Gaza, but experts say Gaza’s economy cannot recover without a resumption of exports.

To me it sounds like a silent death, death by economic if not by military means.

[Starscream]

Just as a curiosity why won't Israel just let the Palestine trade normally with other countries
Besides the need of occupation and what not Hama's one demand seems fairly reasonable.
End the Gaza Blockade
http://metronews.ca/news/world/1102661/hamas-leader-demands-end-to-gaza-blockade/

“We cannot go back, we cannot go back to the silent death” of the blockade, he said. “Gaza has decided to end the blockade by its blood and by its courage.”

Israel allows many consumer goods into Gaza, but experts say Gaza’s economy cannot recover without a resumption of exports.

To me it sounds like a silent death, death by economic if not by military means.

Because they don't trade normally.

The reason the Israeli blockade even started was because they used to import a lot of rockets and various other weapons that they would later shot towards Israeli civilians - a basic question you didn't even ask.
The Egyptians also got their border with gaza closed for a good reason (they used to send terrorists into Egypt - and still do).

More so, Israel allows for goods to go into gaza so long as they inspect it, which hardly sounds like a silent death.

Instead of using the hundred of millions of dollars they are getting annually from various countries (and that's more than enough to sustain their people with 0 actual economy) to build a better life for their citizens, they use it to build tunnels that go into Israel, build rockets and create hideout for their weapons.

Yeah, totally reasonable.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Just as a curiosity why won't Israel just let the Palestine trade normally with other countries
Besides the need of occupation and what not Hama's one demand seems fairly reasonable.
End the Gaza Blockade
http://metronews.ca/news/world/1102661/hamas-leader-demands-end-to-gaza-blockade/

“We cannot go back, we cannot go back to the silent death” of the blockade, he said. “Gaza has decided to end the blockade by its blood and by its courage.”

Israel allows many consumer goods into Gaza, but experts say Gaza’s economy cannot recover without a resumption of exports.

To me it sounds like a silent death, death by economic if not by military means.

Because they don't trade normally.

The reason the Israeli blockade even started was because they used to import a lot of rockets and various other weapons that they would later shot towards Israeli civilians - a basic question you didn't even ask.
The Egyptians also got their border with gaza closed for a good reason (they used to send terrorists into Egypt - and still do).

More so, Israel allows for goods to go into gaza so long as they inspect it, which hardly sounds like a silent death.

Instead of using the hundred of millions of dollars they are getting annually from various countries (and that's more than enough to sustain their people with 0 actual economy) to build a better life for their citizens, they use it to build tunnels that go into Israel, build rockets and create hideout for their weapons.

Yeah, totally reasonable.

But the question was on exports of goods and services to other countries

I can't see a reason why Israel could not just inspect the goods and services leaving the Palestine to other countries.
You just mentioned that they are able to monitor the imports of goods and services into Palestine but if someone wants to export something then they cannot?

My question is on the exporting of goods not the importing of goods from Palestine.

[shogdite]

Just as a curiosity why won't Israel just let the Palestine trade normally with other countries
Besides the need of occupation and what not Hama's one demand seems fairly reasonable.
End the Gaza Blockade
http://metronews.ca/news/world/1102661/hamas-leader-demands-end-to-gaza-blockade/
“We cannot go back, we cannot go back to the silent death” of the blockade, he said. “Gaza has decided to end the blockade by its blood and by its courage.”
Israel allows many consumer goods into Gaza, but experts say Gaza’s economy cannot recover without a resumption of exports.
To me it sounds like a silent death, death by economic if not by military means.

Because they don't trade normally.
The reason the Israeli blockade even started was because they used to import a lot of rockets and various other weapons that they would later shot towards Israeli civilians - a basic question you didn't even ask.
The Egyptians also got their border with gaza closed for a good reason (they used to send terrorists into Egypt - and still do).
More so, Israel allows for goods to go into gaza so long as they inspect it, which hardly sounds like a silent death.
Instead of using the hundred of millions of dollars they are getting annually from various countries (and that's more than enough to sustain their people with 0 actual economy) to build a better life for their citizens, they use it to build tunnels that go into Israel, build rockets and create hideout for their weapons.
Yeah, totally reasonable.

But the question was on exports of goods and services to other countries
I can't see a reason why Israel could not just inspect the goods and services leaving the Palestine to other countries.
You just mentioned that they are able to monitor the imports of goods and services into Palestine but if someone wants to export something then they cannot?
My question is on the exporting of goods not the importing of goods from Palestine.

The illegal blockade of Gaza is nothing but a severe form of economical and cultural punishment for the Palestinians living there. This is a list (copypasted from Wikipedia) of goods banned or previously banned from Gaza. Can't really see how instruments and crayons could pose a threat to the largest military power in the Middle East 

Food. According to a UN report, importation of lentils, pasta, tomato paste and juice has been restricted.[15] Pasta has since been allowed. Sugar has always been allowed.[14] Soda, juice, jam, spices, shaving cream, potato chips, cookies and candy are now permitted.[16] Fruit, milk products in small packages and frozen food products are also allowed.[14] Dry food,[17] ginger and chocolate were at one point barred.[18]

Household items. A4 paper,[18] crayons, stationary, soccer balls, and musical instruments have been, at times, banned for import.[17] According to AFP other banned goods include toilet paper,[4] though the BBC lists it as permitted.[3] According to the Haaretz the following items were banned in 2009: books, candles, crayons, clothing, cups, cutlery, crockery, electric appliances such as refrigerators and washing machines, glasses, light bulbs, matches, musical instruments, needles, sheets, blankets, shoes, mattresses, spare machine and car parts, and threads.[14]

Reconstruction materials: Amnesty International and other organisations report that cement, glass, steel, bitumen, wood, paint, doors, plastic pipes, metal pipes, metal reinforcement rods, aggregate, generators, high voltage cables and wooden telegraph poles are high priority reconstruction materials currently with no or highly limited entry into Gaza through official crossings.[19] A UN report by Kevin M. Cahill said reconstruction was halted because of lack of steel, cement or glass, among other building materials.[15]

Fuel. Fuel had not been imported from Israel since 2008. While fuel is available from Egypt, in contrast to Israeli fuel, it damages the newer cars in Gaza and causes malfunctions. Israel allowed only limited amounts of industrial fuel into Gaza prior to June 2010.[14]

Agriculture and fishing. According to Gisha, fishing ropes and rods, ginger and chocolate, hatcheries and spare parts for hatcheries, were at one point barred.[18]

Medical material. Batteries for hearing aids have been restricted.[15] Wheelchairs, at various times, have been banned.[17]

According to the Haaretz, the number of items allowed into Gaza, as of May 2010, is about 100. Before the blockade, some 4,000 items were allowed. Gisha states that a large Israeli supermarket holds 10,000-15,000 items.[16]