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Supercrypt, raven, game-protect and Darkstar - thanks for the input.
Nitrogen and Betcoin are both great books. No one should be taking chances playing at new and lower rated books at this time. After the Super Bowl is an important time to check payouts. Please keep posting opinions and experiences as some rating changes will definitely be made after the Super Bowl.
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January 15, 2019, 07:26:29 PM |
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This is raven's post in Darkstar's thread. He makes a great point. Seriously asking for KYC on a gambling website is the stupidest thing anyone can do.
Are these people unaware of their customers so much that they would ask KYC to begin with ?
I mean most of us come from countries where gambling is illegal and that is why we gamble in crypto currency instead of fiat, online gambling is not something I prefer to do but I have to do considering its not allowed in my country, so instead of illegally gamble here, I am going to give all my info to crypto casinos and get caught gambling because I accepted the casinos KYC deal and gave them all my information? Not a chance.
I can see KYC on rare occasions but many books are using it as an excuse to delay and confiscate winnings. We don't want to be hassled with KYC and have no idea on how our information will be used. |
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This is raven's post in Darkstar's thread. He makes a great point. Seriously asking for KYC on a gambling website is the stupidest thing anyone can do.
Are these people unaware of their customers so much that they would ask KYC to begin with ?
I mean most of us come from countries where gambling is illegal and that is why we gamble in crypto currency instead of fiat, online gambling is not something I prefer to do but I have to do considering its not allowed in my country, so instead of illegally gamble here, I am going to give all my info to crypto casinos and get caught gambling because I accepted the casinos KYC deal and gave them all my information? Not a chance.
I can see KYC on rare occasions but many books are using it as an excuse to delay and confiscate winnings. We don't want to be hassled with KYC and have no idea on how our information will be used. Can we really feel safe that our Name, address, credit card numbers and phone numbers will not be abused. I mean how many staff people could gain access to this KYC info?! I don't see why 2FA is not enough. I'm asking in advance before I deposit to any sportsbook. How about Casinos? Anyone play at Planet 7? I don't bother much with casinos, but they gave me some free spins and blackjack. I could cash out some, but is it worth the KYC? |
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January 15, 2019, 08:02:22 PM |
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This is raven's post in Darkstar's thread. He makes a great point. Seriously asking for KYC on a gambling website is the stupidest thing anyone can do.
Are these people unaware of their customers so much that they would ask KYC to begin with ?
I mean most of us come from countries where gambling is illegal and that is why we gamble in crypto currency instead of fiat, online gambling is not something I prefer to do but I have to do considering its not allowed in my country, so instead of illegally gamble here, I am going to give all my info to crypto casinos and get caught gambling because I accepted the casinos KYC deal and gave them all my information? Not a chance.
I can see KYC on rare occasions but many books are using it as an excuse to delay and confiscate winnings. We don't want to be hassled with KYC and have no idea on how our information will be used. Can we really feel safe that our Name, address, credit card numbers and phone numbers will not be abused. I mean how many staff people could gain access to this KYC info?! I don't see why 2FA is not enough. I'm asking in advance before I deposit to any sportsbook. How about Casinos? Anyone play at Planet 7? I don't bother much with casinos, but they gave me some free spins and blackjack. I could cash out some, but is it worth the KYC? Great points and always use 2FA. |
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January 15, 2019, 08:07:00 PM |
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Books have asked for KYC and then confiscated money for the following reasons:
1. Accused of money laundering.
2. Accused of match fixing.
3. Accused of double spend attempt.
The bitcoin books asking for KYC don't have any advantages over the top books. There's no good reason to put yourself in a position of being falsely accused. Books requiring KYC share information with other books and you don't want to be red flagged.
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January 15, 2019, 09:59:41 PM |
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How about Casinos? Anyone play at Planet 7? I don't bother much with casinos, but they gave me some free spins and blackjack. I could cash out some, but is it worth the KYC?
For Bitcoin casinos it's the same, those who don't require KYC after registration can ask at any given time if it's stated in their T&C that's why you also have to pay attention to their rules and not just carelessly play without reading these information. Free spins and bonus is never worth the KYC but if you think they're trustworthy enough that's for you to decide. Many of us here are against KYC since you can have the same type of experience without having to go through these procedures. |
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January 16, 2019, 03:25:55 AM |
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How about Casinos? Anyone play at Planet 7? I don't bother much with casinos, but they gave me some free spins and blackjack. I could cash out some, but is it worth the KYC?
For Bitcoin casinos it's the same, those who don't require KYC after registration can ask at any given time if it's stated in their T&C that's why you also have to pay attention to their rules and not just carelessly play without reading these information. Free spins and bonus is never worth the KYC but if you think they're trustworthy enough that's for you to decide. Many of us here are against KYC since you can have the same type of experience without having to go through these procedures. thanks for posting this since I'm not too familiar with the casinos. |
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One thing that we shouldn't do as players is multi-account to circumvent limits. If more then one person has an account in a household, let the book know prior to any problems occurring to get their approval.
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Please post comments, reviews, praises and complaints here. Although this is a player's thread, books are encouraged to post. The only rule for books is to keep their conversation on their own book and not that of another book. "A" rated booksnitrogensports.eu A+ (2013) email: support@nitrogensports.eu and support ticket........Reduced juice: Yes betcoin.ag A (2013) email: contact@betcoin.ag and support ticket.................Reduced juice: Yes bitcoinrush.io A- (2013) email: admin@bitcoinrush.io.......................................... Reduced juice: Yes. "B"rated booksjetwin.ps B- (2013) email: support@jetwin.ps Under maintenance. "C" rated booksanonibet.com C- (2011) email: info@anonibet.com............................................. Reduced juice: NomBet.io C- (2017) .............................................................................. Reduced juice: No"D" rated bookscloudbet.com D+ (2013) email: support@cloudbet.com .......................................Reduced juice:Yes coinbet24.com D+ (2015) .............................................................................Re duced juice: Nosportsbet.io D+ (2016) email: cs@sportsbet.io................................................ Reduced juice: No1xbit.com D (2016) email: support-en@1x-bit.com ......................................Two sets of lines. *Reduced juice is better than 1.91 (-110) on sides in major sports. "F" rated booksAnybet.eu . Ball2Win F . BetCas F . betking.io sportsbook closed Nov. 2018. betmatch.is closed 2018. BetVIP - closed 6/12/15 Bitbook F closed. Bitbm F . Bitcoinsport F closed Bitcoinlivebets F closed bitsport.bet closed 4/11/18 Blockbet F closed BTCBonusBook (2015). Casinoco (2015). Coinbet F Coindrafts F (2014) closed. DirectBet closed 5/21/17 Ghostbook (TOR) Gobetgo F (2013) Powerbet F (2016) Sportbet.im F closed. StakeBTC F closed Webetcoins F (2014) closed. Maximum grade based upon time in business: A - 2 years B - 1 year C - 3 months D - 1 month |
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January 19, 2019, 05:36:12 PM |
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Hi Guys, Can we get the fact that we have 24/7 live chat added to the above list? Thanks |
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Hi Guys, Can we get the fact that we have 24/7 live chat added to the above list? Thanks Will do shortly. |
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January 19, 2019, 10:59:57 PM |
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Thanks for correcting this to 2013. |
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January 20, 2019, 01:45:48 AM |
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Thanks for correcting this to 2013. Thanks goes to you for pointing out my mistake. |
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January 20, 2019, 02:42:02 AM |
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Hi Guys, Can we get the fact that we have 24/7 live chat added to the above list? Thanks Hi Shaun, does mBet have an email address? It's looks like everyone except Bitcoinrush has chat. |
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I see A rated sportsbooks, B rated ones, C and even D and than the unwanted F rated ones, however in none of them I can see onehash ?
I mean those dudes are doing sportsbooking a bit differently than others and allow you to be your own oddmaker with gamblers basically gambling against each other in a player versus player sportsbooks deal however that doesn't change the fact that they are in fact a sportsbook.
I don't know what the reason is for them to be kept away from the list but looking at what makes a website A rated or B rated I can already say they are above many of the sportsbooks in this list, maybe not A rated but certainly B rated to say the least. They have amazing offers a lot of games, no reason to scam you with odds considering you are the one making the odds and many other stuff, why wouldn't they be listed here ?
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January 21, 2019, 06:56:55 AM |
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I see A rated sportsbooks, B rated ones, C and even D and than the unwanted F rated ones, however in none of them I can see onehash ?
I mean those dudes are doing sportsbooking a bit differently than others and allow you to be your own oddmaker with gamblers basically gambling against each other in a player versus player sportsbooks deal however that doesn't change the fact that they are in fact a sportsbook.
I don't know what the reason is for them to be kept away from the list but looking at what makes a website A rated or B rated I can already say they are above many of the sportsbooks in this list, maybe not A rated but certainly B rated to say the least. They have amazing offers a lot of games, no reason to scam you with odds considering you are the one making the odds and many other stuff, why wouldn't they be listed here ?
Since onehash is different than a regular sportsbook, they are listed on the first page but not with a grade. What type of sports do you bet there? I'll have to look deeper in to onehash. Exchangesbetbtc.co (2014) fairlay.com (2014) Prediction Marketsaugur.net betmoose.com (2014) predictious.com (2013) Mutual BettingOnehash.com |
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January 21, 2019, 05:48:31 PM |
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Hi Guys, Can we get the fact that we have 24/7 live chat added to the above list? Thanks Hi Shaun, does mBet have an email address? It's looks like everyone except Bitcoinrush has chat. Sorry I missed this. Yeah customer_support@mbet.io but this doesnt go to a ticket system. It is much better if a player contacts us on live chat that way if the issue needs to be escalated it can immediately. Cheers Shaun |
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