[ANN][BURST] Burst | Efficient HDD Mining | New 1.2.3 Fork block 92000

[callmejack]

And someone just added a extra 5PB to the network? I don't think it's people just plotting out excess storage... ROI is up to two years now... I can only fathom someone found out a way to mine over cloud storage easily... or someone figured out how to mine without plotting.

I think it's some other factor that it causing these big fluctuations in the network. If a person did have access to a vast amount of data storage surely they would bring it online 10,50 or even 100TB at a time?

There was a guy in this thread with access to a lot of cloud space and processors six hours a day. Maybe he is done with the setting script and his burst mining operation is now fully functional.

from the specs he gave the plotting speed needs to be 800 MB/s to fill 16 TB / node in 6 hrs, which yields 8 TB mean per node.
Oh, plus mining concurrently with up to 70 MB/s for 1/4 of the time, ramping up from the beginning. Well, at least the stagger would be nice with ~60 GiB RAM. Oh, and I guess you need a handful of wallets to serve thousand miner instances, or did anyone notice funny numbers on the pools ?

I doubt you get a free trial with these compute- and io-capabilities, a thousand of those, repeatedly ? hmm..

Nonetheless, what a funky homework assignment !

nicely summed up vaxman.
i suggested him to run a small "wallet farm" and forgot he could simply limit the submitted deadlines to reduce the wallet compute load for verification.
the stagger should be no issue since this is ssd storage.
i never used the cloud myself but maybe he is able to rent the storage and can connect the 6h miners/plotters to it.
last time i have checked the cloud options it was'nt such expensive for large storage amounts simply because you pay for io cycles in combination with transfered volumes. if the stagger is high and on cloud plotted onto a connected permanent storage by the 6h machines with big staggers the read cycles should be reduced to only 8-32 io ops for 16tb each block depending on plotsizes.
i am not aware of their tos but if they do an audit (and i am sure they do for such loads) there will be a huge invoice for the compute nodes because the use is for sure against their tos.
but who knows....

[vaxman]

from the specs he gave the plotting speed needs to be 800 MB/s to fill 16 TB / node in 6 hrs, which yields 8 TB mean per node.
Oh, plus mining concurrently with up to 70 MB/s for 1/4 of the time, ramping up from the beginning. Well, at least the stagger would be nice with ~60 GiB RAM. Oh, and I guess you need a handful of wallets to serve thousand miner instances, or did anyone notice funny numbers on the pools ?

I doubt you get a free trial with these compute- and io-capabilities, a thousand of those, repeatedly ? hmm..

Nonetheless, what a funky homework assignment !

nicely summed up vaxman.
i suggested him to run a small "wallet farm" and forgot he could simply limit the submitted deadlines to reduce the wallet compute load for verification.
the stagger should be no issue since this is ssd storage.
i never used the cloud myself but maybe he is able to rent the storage and can connect the 6h miners/plotters to it.
last time i have checked the cloud options it was'nt such expensive for large storage amounts simply because you pay for io cycles in combination with transfered volumes. if the stagger is high and on cloud plotted onto a connected permanent storage by the 6h machines with big staggers the read cycles should be reduced to only 8-32 io ops for 16tb each block depending on plotsizes.
i am not aware of their tos but if they do an audit (and i am sure they do for such loads) there will be a huge invoice for the compute nodes because the use is for sure against their tos.
but who knows....

hmm..per TB you need to scan 90 GB/day for mining, with a bandwith of ~4 MB/s if you want to finish <60s, duty cycle is 0.25 then.
If you scale this to a PB, you have 4 GB/s bandwith. Bytes, not Bits. Easy between racks, rather expensive between sites.
Just like the 90 TB traffic/day. Oops.

Mining at this scale needs to be close to the storage, preferably directly connected, obviously.

[dcct]

The various sites quoting network size use very small block-ranges for averaging, not very helpful IMO due to their spikey-ness.

Good point. My calculator now uses 360 block average:

https://bchain.info/BURST/tools/calculator

[coinits]

Superminer enough to give you a BURST Hardon heh heh



https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-storage-pod-4/

Complete with parts lists and how to build it. Better have a lot of free cash though

Here was the old version...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqfkN7x-AfA

[mmmaybe]

And someone just added a extra 5PB to the network? I don't think it's people just plotting out excess storage... ROI is up to two years now... I can only fathom someone found out a way to mine over cloud storage easily... or someone figured out how to mine without plotting.

I think it's some other factor that it causing these big fluctuations in the network. If a person did have access to a vast amount of data storage surely they would bring it online 10,50 or even 100TB at a time?

Just wanna say it must not be some odd thing. I, literally, just happened to get access to +2pb some time ago. Will not comment on how.

[crowetic]

And someone just added a extra 5PB to the network? I don't think it's people just plotting out excess storage... ROI is up to two years now... I can only fathom someone found out a way to mine over cloud storage easily... or someone figured out how to mine without plotting.

I think it's some other factor that it causing these big fluctuations in the network. If a person did have access to a vast amount of data storage surely they would bring it online 10,50 or even 100TB at a time?

Just wanna say it must not be some odd thing. I, literally, just happened to get access to +2pb some time ago. Will not comment on how.

Of which you're gonna donate 500TB to ByteEnterprises' Cloud project! lol. jk.

[mmmaybe]

And someone just added a extra 5PB to the network? I don't think it's people just plotting out excess storage... ROI is up to two years now... I can only fathom someone found out a way to mine over cloud storage easily... or someone figured out how to mine without plotting.

I think it's some other factor that it causing these big fluctuations in the network. If a person did have access to a vast amount of data storage surely they would bring it online 10,50 or even 100TB at a time?

Just wanna say it must not be some odd thing. I, literally, just happened to get access to +2pb some time ago. Will not comment on how.

Of which you're gonna donate 500TB to ByteEnterprises' Cloud project! lol. jk.

Was thinking the whole thing, just you got the shipment settled.

[seasonw]

from the specs he gave the plotting speed needs to be 800 MB/s to fill 16 TB / node in 6 hrs, which yields 8 TB mean per node.
Oh, plus mining concurrently with up to 70 MB/s for 1/4 of the time, ramping up from the beginning. Well, at least the stagger would be nice with ~60 GiB RAM. Oh, and I guess you need a handful of wallets to serve thousand miner instances, or did anyone notice funny numbers on the pools ?

I doubt you get a free trial with these compute- and io-capabilities, a thousand of those, repeatedly ? hmm..

Nonetheless, what a funky homework assignment !

nicely summed up vaxman.
i suggested him to run a small "wallet farm" and forgot he could simply limit the submitted deadlines to reduce the wallet compute load for verification.
the stagger should be no issue since this is ssd storage.
i never used the cloud myself but maybe he is able to rent the storage and can connect the 6h miners/plotters to it.
last time i have checked the cloud options it was'nt such expensive for large storage amounts simply because you pay for io cycles in combination with transfered volumes. if the stagger is high and on cloud plotted onto a connected permanent storage by the 6h machines with big staggers the read cycles should be reduced to only 8-32 io ops for 16tb each block depending on plotsizes.
i am not aware of their tos but if they do an audit (and i am sure they do for such loads) there will be a huge invoice for the compute nodes because the use is for sure against their tos.
but who knows....

hmm..per TB you need to scan 90 GB/day for mining, with a bandwith of ~4 MB/s if you want to finish <60s, duty cycle is 0.25 then.
If you scale this to a PB, you have 4 GB/s bandwith. Bytes, not Bits. Easy between racks, rather expensive between sites.
Just like the 90 TB traffic/day. Oops.

Mining at this scale needs to be close to the storage, preferably directly connected, obviously.

Whatever it is, but I think some big players must work out a way to mine big and dump burst price at poloniex these few days~~

[crowetic]

And someone just added a extra 5PB to the network? I don't think it's people just plotting out excess storage... ROI is up to two years now... I can only fathom someone found out a way to mine over cloud storage easily... or someone figured out how to mine without plotting.

I think it's some other factor that it causing these big fluctuations in the network. If a person did have access to a vast amount of data storage surely they would bring it online 10,50 or even 100TB at a time?

Just wanna say it must not be some odd thing. I, literally, just happened to get access to +2pb some time ago. Will not comment on how.

Of which you're gonna donate 500TB to ByteEnterprises' Cloud project! lol. jk.

Was thinking the whole thing, just you got the shipment settled.

PM incoming my brother!

[mczarnek]

Any developers who've built the source code in windows?  Finding it tricky.. the win-compile.sh is simply exactly the compile.sh, which is doesn't work because it's windows.. not linux and changing the name of the file doesn't magically make it work.

Anyone have experience with javac in bat files?  Or Ant or Maven?

Thanks.

I agree with CIYAM.. we should change that "-" to something that can be copied on double-click. Decided to play with the code and figured out how to switch it over to "_" which happens to be copyable.  Here try double clicking what will become my new wallet address:  BURST_SYYS_QMGR_BCYN_BVQ2A

Everyone approve?  We will of course have to give blockchain explorers a chance to make that same tweak.


Note for now, in my build either the "_" or the "-" is able to be input and verified as correct.. at least in theory once I can build the code.

Again, anyone able to help get the code to the point where we can run a .bat file and have the code be built.. maybe after another evening or two of playing with it I can get it working.

[mczarnek]

Whatever it is, but I think some big players must work out a way to mine big and dump burst price at poloniex these few days~~

You think people are going to start dumping burst?  And therefore you'll be able to buy in even cheaper?  Why the frowny face?

[burstcoin]

I agree with CIYAM.. we should change that "-" to something that can be copied on double-click. Decided to play with the code and figured out how to switch it over to "_" which happens to be copyable.  Here try double clicking what will become my new wallet address:  BURST_SYYS_QMGR_BCYN_BVQ2A

Except underscores don't select the whole thing when double clicking either.

[CIYAM]

I agree with CIYAM.. we should change that "-" to something that can be copied on double-click. Decided to play with the code and figured out how to switch it over to "_" which happens to be copyable.  Here try double clicking what will become my new wallet address:  BURST_SYYS_QMGR_BCYN_BVQ2A

Except underscores don't select the whole thing when double clicking either.

Yup - I would recommend something like this:

BURSTxSYYSxQMGRxBCYNxBVQ2A

(doesn't look beautiful but at least works everywhere for selection)

[bobafett]

Update and News: www.burstcoin.de

>> New Feature German Poolmining Guide now available.
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Help me to keep up the page and enhance the information for the german community. 220k to go in the Crowfund. Please do some donations!!!!
[/quote]

[pist0la]

Is it possible to change the password to an address? I will be moving soon and would like to sell my HDDs, cables, sata to usb adapters, several usb 3.0 7-port hubs, etc. Basically selling everything you need to mine. I would love to sell the plotted drives so it is truly plug and play for the buyer, changing the password to my address would be helpful. If it's not possible I would destroy the password from my records, it's a very long string of random characters I would never be able to remember again.

If the password cannot be changed, is it possible to implement this feature into BURST?

Anyone interested? $45/TB including shipping for pre-plotted drives, more than enough cables, adapters, hubs for the setup. Roughly 120 TB worth of drives, mostly seagate barracudas. Save yourself months of plotting by taking over my burst address.

[bensam1231]

$45/TB?

woaw... I should be putting together and selling Burst miners instead of mining...

And someone just added a extra 5PB to the network? I don't think it's people just plotting out excess storage... ROI is up to two years now... I can only fathom someone found out a way to mine over cloud storage easily... or someone figured out how to mine without plotting.

I think it's some other factor that it causing these big fluctuations in the network. If a person did have access to a vast amount of data storage surely they would bring it online 10,50 or even 100TB at a time?

Just wanna say it must not be some odd thing. I, literally, just happened to get access to +2pb some time ago. Will not comment on how.

Of which you're gonna donate 500TB to ByteEnterprises' Cloud project! lol. jk.

Was thinking the whole thing, just you got the shipment settled.

Curiously why would you donate mining equipment to another miner? From what I understand he's making his mining operation seem like a 'business', only he pays share holders, but still takes in all the profits above what he pays to share holders. You're literally paying someone else to get rich. You could just mine yourself instead.

Bobafett at least is stating he's not planning to sell any Burst he makes (although he doesn't say in his asset contract BTW). That would take it off the market and raise the value of Burst.

[ticote]

Is it possible to change the password to an address? I will be moving soon and would like to sell my HDDs, cables, sata to usb adapters, several usb 3.0 7-port hubs, etc. Basically selling everything you need to mine. I would love to sell the plotted drives so it is truly plug and play for the buyer, changing the password to my address would be helpful. If it's not possible I would destroy the password from my records, it's a very long string of random characters I would never be able to remember again.

If the password cannot be changed, is it possible to implement this feature into BURST?

Anyone interested? $45/TB including shipping for pre-plotted drives, more than enough cables, adapters, hubs for the setup. Roughly 120 TB worth of drives, mostly seagate barracudas. Save yourself months of plotting by taking over my burst address.

Is there any reason for going out of BURST?

[bobafett]

if you thought you will be a millionair within a month, burst is not the coin 

[Kartojal]

Is it possible to change the password to an address? I will be moving soon and would like to sell my HDDs, cables, sata to usb adapters, several usb 3.0 7-port hubs, etc. Basically selling everything you need to mine. I would love to sell the plotted drives so it is truly plug and play for the buyer, changing the password to my address would be helpful. If it's not possible I would destroy the password from my records, it's a very long string of random characters I would never be able to remember again.

If the password cannot be changed, is it possible to implement this feature into BURST?

Anyone interested? $45/TB including shipping for pre-plotted drives, more than enough cables, adapters, hubs for the setup. Roughly 120 TB worth of drives, mostly seagate barracudas. Save yourself months of plotting by taking over my burst address.

Create a new account, and give all BURST to that address, simple

[xizmax]

Is it possible to change the password to an address? I will be moving soon and would like to sell my HDDs, cables, sata to usb adapters, several usb 3.0 7-port hubs, etc. Basically selling everything you need to mine. I would love to sell the plotted drives so it is truly plug and play for the buyer, changing the password to my address would be helpful. If it's not possible I would destroy the password from my records, it's a very long string of random characters I would never be able to remember again.

If the password cannot be changed, is it possible to implement this feature into BURST?

Anyone interested? $45/TB including shipping for pre-plotted drives, more than enough cables, adapters, hubs for the setup. Roughly 120 TB worth of drives, mostly seagate barracudas. Save yourself months of plotting by taking over my burst address.

Create a new account, and give all BURST to that address, simple

Not so simple for the prospective buyer as the buyer cannot be sure pist0la destroyed the pass and the buyer is the only one to have access to the account.