[~1000 GH/sec] BTC Guild - 0% Fee Pool, LP, SSL, Full Precision, and More

[MSJHWT]

Perhaps to deal with this in the future, you can go down this dark and shady road...

Put a notice on the site that only miners pulling in at least 10MH/sec are welcome. 

This will not keep out the cpumining botnet, but it will establish the terms of your pool and the botnet would be violating those terms.  Then, once you identify a future botnet, invalidate 2/3 of all shares submitted by miners running less than 10MH/sec and just pretend like they didn't happen.  Net result, the rest of us benefit from the work of the botnet and the impact to the botnet's profitability might be low enough that they don't even notice.

and what about the Legit users under 10 mh a sec? oh right 'they are not important'. how could i forget..

They are not worth... probably they cause more problems (bandwidth/resources consumption) than their benefits (Mhash/sec).

So I think it's a good idea that larger pools allow only "gpu" users meanwhile "cpu" users must be confined to smaller polls where they are welcome.

My 2 cents

I would tend to agree with you, under 10 MH/sec likely clog the servers in terms of getting idles and it is doubtful that at this difficulty many people are knowingly CPU mining outside of thoes with free electricity.

On another note, cautiously optomisitc the servers are coming back up? My miners have swapped off their backup back to BTCGuild and I see the pool at nearly 100GH/Sec now.

[pdawg]

Still showing down for me, are you pointing to a specific server?

[MSJHWT]

Still showing down for me, are you pointing to a specific server?

Pointed at USeast

[eleuthria]

Well the secret is out.  Yes, US East is currently online.  The other servers are staying off while I monitor US East's activity.

The shares being sent to US east are valid and being counted, but My Account is currently still in its low-priority DDoS mode where it does not try to communicate with servers (thus no real-time stats getting pulled from US East).

US East is still counting shares.  It still had about 75k of share submission data from last night's uptime as well.  I'll be worknig on the stat polling/caching system tonight to get Worker Stats available again on a small delay.

[MSJHWT]

Awesome! Thanks for all your great work Eleuthria!

[kodess]

Well the secret is out.  Yes, US East is currently online.  The other servers are staying off while I monitor US East's activity.

The shares being sent to US east are valid and being counted, but My Account is currently still in its low-priority DDoS mode where it does not try to communicate with servers (thus no real-time stats getting pulled from US East).

US East is still counting shares.  It still had about 75k of share submission data from last night's uptime as well.  I'll be worknig on the stat polling/caching system tonight to get Worker Stats available again on a small delay.

keep up the great work eleuthria

[GimEEE]

Well the secret is out.  Yes, US East is currently online.  The other servers are staying off while I monitor US East's activity.
The shares being sent to US east are valid and being counted, but My Account is currently still in its low-priority DDoS mode where it does not try to communicate with servers (thus no real-time stats getting pulled from US East).
US East is still counting shares.  It still had about 75k of share submission data from last night's uptime as well.  I'll be worknig on the stat polling/caching system tonight to get Worker Stats available again on a small delay.

Exactly,
1) Delay of around round time divided by 2 is almost necessary to prevent hopping abuse.
2) Banning people for using many ip's might not be the best idea, instead using an efficiency based banning might be more fair and have the same effect (i.e. stales > 20% or whatever arbitrary value).

[eleuthria]

Well the secret is out.  Yes, US East is currently online.  The other servers are staying off while I monitor US East's activity.
The shares being sent to US east are valid and being counted, but My Account is currently still in its low-priority DDoS mode where it does not try to communicate with servers (thus no real-time stats getting pulled from US East).
US East is still counting shares.  It still had about 75k of share submission data from last night's uptime as well.  I'll be worknig on the stat polling/caching system tonight to get Worker Stats available again on a small delay.

Exactly,
1) Delay of around round time divided by 2 is almost necessary to prevent hopping abuse.
2) Banning people for using many ip's might not be the best idea, instead using an efficiency based banning might be more fair and have the same effect (i.e. stales > 20% or whatever arbitrary value).

The logging I put in place is for a two criteria auto-blacklist:
  1) Too many IPs on a single worker.
  2) Too many requests with too few shares returned.

[BookLover]

The logging I put in place is for a two criteria auto-blacklist:
  1) Too many IPs on a single worker.
  2) Too many requests with too few shares returned.

Do you mean to many IPs at the same time, or to many IPs over a period of time?

[eleuthria]

The logging I put in place is for a two criteria auto-blacklist:
  1) Too many IPs on a single worker.
  2) Too many requests with too few shares returned.

Do you mean to many IPs at the same time, or to many IPs over a period of time?

Over a reasonable period of time.  Dynamic IP users won't need to fear the auto ban.

[jjiimm_64]

I am just curius,  why didn't you go with a whitelist?  seams more solid as workers with gpus probably have a limited or only one ip


edit:   I would love to see what my share is if we found a block with only 600G as we have right now

[leevancleef]

edit:   I would love to see what my share is if we found a block with only 600G as we have right now

you can calculate this:

your mh/s / 600 * 49 = your income per blocks found, example:   1gh/s / 600 * 49 = 0,08166667 btc/blocks


 

[Eri]

@everyone that says kick out those under 10 mh/s

one of the reasons to have pools, if not the main reason pools exist is to allow those that can not mine on their own to come together so they can make something, for people with high end gpu's this offers a more constant payout rather then the more risky mining on your own. so if anyone is going to say 'kick out the people that need pools the most' then why not suggest to kick out everyone else while were at it and  close the pool down? problem solved!


side topic:

how much bandwidth was the botnet account using while mining and how big was the bribe they were offering eleuthria and how many btc did that work out to over their accounts lifetime while it was active.

[eleuthria]

DDoS is back on US East.

I've got another server getting setup with Awknet TODAY (website provider) which has been able to keep us online reasonably during the attacks.


Eri:  The botnet was donating 5%.  Considering the volume of CPU miners eating system resources, I think banning them (even though they were the biggest donator) would have ended up making me more due to everybody else working even faster without the idles.

[jgarzik]

Watching thread.

[KarlSpaat]

Banning Bots is the only acceptable thing. They lower the profit of real miners and this makes people leaving the bitcoin network. The only way bitcoins can be successful is having many people believing in the network.

I will also never go to a pool, who let Botnets mine with them. So big respect to you for banning and fighting Botnets. I will definitly stay at your pool with every miner in my rig.

[lemosax]

:HUG: Good luck with this.  If there's anything we (regular users) can do besides wait and pray, let us know.

[PcChip]

Excellent idea - praying will cause the electrons, that make up the bits, that make up the bytes, that make up the packets, that make up the DDoS flood simply vanish!

[lemosax]

Excellent idea - praying will cause the electrons, that make up the bits, that make up the bytes, that make up the packets, that make up the DDoS flood simply vanish!

Way to be a troll.  I'm just wishing the guy well - not literally praying that the Internet Gods resolve the issue.

[Druas]

Watching thread.

He is probably watching the website also...no wait maybe his Internet only works for the Bitcoin forums.