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Author Topic: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2437 blocks  (Read 5350835 times)
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July 28, 2016, 03:41:32 AM
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<snip>...
All pools I know of have lost BTC in large amounts at certain times.
I aim to preclude the possibility of that here, if possible.
That right there crystallizes so eloquently why we, the kano ckpool faithful, mine here and would never think to mine anywhere else.  And speaking of mining, time to crack some damn blocks already!  Grin

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July 28, 2016, 08:50:06 AM
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Anyone notice that the bad luck streaks across the net has started since the S9's started arriving?
Fortunately I can now see that number for any S9 mining directly to the pool Smiley

Here's only the last 2 weeks:
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a | bmminer/1.0.0 | 1,011.78G | 96,610,507.00 | 4.73978702 BDR | 1011 | 1.00G | 1,537.27G | 8.01G | 3 B
What that shows is that for a BDR of 4.74 (meaning expected number of blocks), so far the direct S9 miners have found 3 blocks.
So that's all statistically OK so far.

e.g. that BDR/Block ratio for the last 2 weeks for certain miners is:
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 1.57992900 | a | bmminer/1.0.0  |  4.73978702 BDR | 3 B
 1.52032672 | a | cgminer/4.7.0  |  1.52032672 BDR | 1 B
 1.42273633 | a | NiceHash/1.0.0 |  8.53641799 BDR | 6 B
 1.20826987 | a | cgminer/4.8.0  | 22.95712756 BDR | 19 B
 0.78980554 | a | cgminer/4.9.0  | 11.05727767 BDR | 14 B
 0.68304492 | a | cgminer/4.9.2  |  2.73217969 BDR | 4 B
The lower the first number, the better the luck. 1.0 = expected luck.

But those stats are too small to decide anything from them, of course, and show nothing wrong since they are so small.
Just posted them for curiosity Smiley

Still working on getting longer term stats.

Kano, this is very interesting.  Do you mind posting this info every now and then?

I had no idea S9s had such a small impact, it is interesting to see NH is about 20% of the hash rate, etc.  You have access to some cool stats
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July 28, 2016, 10:45:31 AM
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Many hours no block
Sometimes it just goes this way
Time for it to end

Here blocky, blocky! Come home to papa!
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July 28, 2016, 11:36:43 AM
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Guys, come on. Some times we strike luck and some times we do not.
I think its too early to say if the bmminer has anything to do with the luck, but damn clever of Bitmain if the only way to find blocks with an S9 should be by running at crap Antpool....but also very dangerous of them (51% attack).
I think the BMminer is developed for them to get statistics send to them and get knowledge to optimize their own pool, unfortunately i'm not skilled enough to find out if my S9´s are sending data to Bitmain.
Either way, if this is the case that BMminer is only able to find blocks at Antpool, sorry guys, then we either have to find the solution or I will be forced to point my S9 farm to Antpool, I will not be behind in the game and lose out on the most efficient miner to date because it cant find blocks at Kano.....
Still, I do not think that's the case and the S9 will find just as many blocks as all the other miners at KANO.

Im willing for KANO to get acces to 1 of my S9`s if that's needed to figure out what the hell this BMminer is doing.


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July 28, 2016, 12:21:25 PM
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Anyone notice that the bad luck streaks across the net has started since the S9's started arriving?
Fortunately I can now see that number for any S9 mining directly to the pool Smiley

Here's only the last 2 weeks:
Code:
a | bmminer/1.0.0 | 1,011.78G | 96,610,507.00 | 4.73978702 BDR | 1011 | 1.00G | 1,537.27G | 8.01G | 3 B
What that shows is that for a BDR of 4.74 (meaning expected number of blocks), so far the direct S9 miners have found 3 blocks.
So that's all statistically OK so far.

e.g. that BDR/Block ratio for the last 2 weeks for certain miners is:
Code:
 1.57992900 | a | bmminer/1.0.0  |  4.73978702 BDR | 3 B
 1.52032672 | a | cgminer/4.7.0  |  1.52032672 BDR | 1 B
 1.42273633 | a | NiceHash/1.0.0 |  8.53641799 BDR | 6 B
 1.20826987 | a | cgminer/4.8.0  | 22.95712756 BDR | 19 B
 0.78980554 | a | cgminer/4.9.0  | 11.05727767 BDR | 14 B
 0.68304492 | a | cgminer/4.9.2  |  2.73217969 BDR | 4 B
The lower the first number, the better the luck. 1.0 = expected luck.

But those stats are too small to decide anything from them, of course, and show nothing wrong since they are so small.
Just posted them for curiosity Smiley

Still working on getting longer term stats.

Kano, this is very interesting.  Do you mind posting this info every now and then?

I had no idea S9s had such a small impact, it is interesting to see NH is about 20% of the hash rate, etc.  You have access to some cool stats

I run these reports on everyone and everything, at least every time I do a payout ...

The recent change is that I've added being able to group them under names like above and also IP addresses
It's all in the public git except the summarisation I use that shows the many different things I'm actually looking for in the data.

Yes *Hash rentals are about 20% of the pool.
If stats do ever show a problem with them, yep the pool will drop 20% in a heartbeat.
(and I still don't have much history of the recent change yet)

However, that S9 (bmminer/1.0.0) number, as I said, is only for people mining directly to the pool with an S9.
If you use, appropriately, a proxy for lots of miners, then it wont show as "bmminer/1.0.0"
(also of course the rental proxies don't show what hardware they are)

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July 28, 2016, 12:23:51 PM
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Guys, come on. Some times we strike luck and some times we do not.
I think its too early to say if the bmminer has anything to do with the luck, but damn clever of Bitmain if the only way to find blocks with an S9 should be by running at crap Antpool....but also very dangerous of them (51% attack).
I think the BMminer is developed for them to get statistics send to them and get knowledge to optimize their own pool, unfortunately i'm not skilled enough to find out if my S9´s are sending data to Bitmain.
Either way, if this is the case that BMminer is only able to find blocks at Antpool, sorry guys, then we either have to find the solution or I will be forced to point my S9 farm to Antpool, I will not be behind in the game and lose out on the most efficient miner to date because it cant find blocks at Kano.....
Still, I do not think that's the case and the S9 will find just as many blocks as all the other miners at KANO.

Im willing for KANO to get acces to 1 of my S9`s if that's needed to figure out what the hell this BMminer is doing.
No I don't suspect there's anything in the S9, even though, as usual, Bitmain has again broken the cgminer license terms.

A Bitmain person asked me the other day if I wanted an S9.
One word immediate reply "no"
... then a comment about waiting for the next avalon Smiley

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July 28, 2016, 12:33:57 PM
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Kano- keep me updated with the Avalon ones. Still need to do some buying in and it could as well be Avalon if they perform equal or better than the S9.
Still my offer is still open if you want to spy around  Wink in a S9..

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July 28, 2016, 12:42:20 PM
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When that notice came in for the block at Solo CKPool about 30 minutes ago I thought we had busted the latest monster red block...  Grin
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July 28, 2016, 01:27:52 PM
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Silence when we finally find it? Smiley

Block by cobramining to break another long block.

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July 28, 2016, 01:33:04 PM
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Finally, now we've done our part to help with the diff drop, time for some multi block cracking action!!

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These aren't the Droids you're looking for: S5 & S7 (Sold), R4B2, R4B4 (RIP), 2x S9 obsolete, 2xS15-28, S17-56, S17-70
Pushing a whopping 1/5 PH!  Oh The SPEED!!!
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July 28, 2016, 01:36:07 PM
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0330 here...another sleepwalking thing, I guess...at least three of us are awake and see the block! More red, though...

To infinity and beyond...on two 741s and one of only 3...nope, make that 4...full nodes in Hawaii...on <30A. (I have other gear on the Hoth ice planet)
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July 28, 2016, 01:56:52 PM
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Silence when we finally find it? Smiley

Block by cobramining to break another long block.
... and an interesting but useless bit of information about that block.
We had a close share at 55.08% Tongue

[2016-07-28 03:29:29.496+10] Share ok Diff 98.0% (209172127210/213492501107.5) ... Pool 117586000615.0 118G 55.08%

(and another 2 days ago)

[2016-07-26 04:43:20.302+10] Share ok Diff 98.8% (210980230869/213492501107.5) ... Pool 250112033855.0 250G 117.15%

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July 28, 2016, 02:46:37 PM
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Don't think we have ever had back to back 400% blocks. Ouch.

For those about to block we salute you! AC->BTC
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July 28, 2016, 02:59:42 PM
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Don't think we have ever had back to back 400% blocks. Ouch.

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July 28, 2016, 03:29:28 PM
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I find it amazing that an S9 commissioned barely 24 hours ago has hit a block !!!  Shocked

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July 28, 2016, 03:30:07 PM
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Don't think we have ever had back to back 400% blocks. Ouch.
Glad we didn't that time either Smiley

Block by Citronick Smiley

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July 28, 2016, 03:51:14 PM
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Don't think we have ever had back to back 400% blocks. Ouch.
Glad we didn't that time either Smiley

Block by Citronick Smiley

good stuff , was getting red like the shining.

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July 28, 2016, 03:52:17 PM
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Congrats Citronic with your block.... wonder if it was an S9, but it looks like you are more an hash renter, so you cant tell ?

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July 28, 2016, 03:53:14 PM
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Thank you cobramining and citronick for the blocks!  I went outside to clean out my old shed and when I got back in all is better on the Kano pool!   Grin
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July 28, 2016, 04:00:00 PM
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Congrats Citronic with your block.... wonder if it was an S9, but it looks like you are more an hash renter, so you cant tell ?

All S9s, I am off rentals to do another project...  Grin

That S9 was installed less than 24 hours ago!

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