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March 12, 2016, 05:32:00 PM |
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so ya I think Im definitely going to start looking at getting my miners hosted somewhere. my ac crapped out last night and is only blowing ambient temps the house is pretty toasty right now.
gotta find a couple more blocks today so I can pay to fix my ac.
I know its OT, but toomim bros and sidehack have good reputations for hosting.
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March 12, 2016, 06:28:33 PM |
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I'm starting to think about it too, but it's kinda difficult finding someone to host miners in France. On the other hand, I know a couple of people working for the national power company and they get a 90% reduction on their electricity bill. Now I just have find a nice 19" rack and convince one of them to make some space in their garage ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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clgrissom3
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March 12, 2016, 06:46:22 PM |
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I'm starting to think about it too, but it's kinda difficult finding someone to host miners in France. On the other hand, I know a couple of people working for the national power company and they get a 90% reduction on their electricity bill. Now I just have find a nice 19" rack and convince one of them to make some space in their garage ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) For some people it could mean the difference between continuing to support the kano pool or shutting down unless they can find a good hosting site. Keep in mind when you are searching for a host site it does not have to be in the same region or even the same country you are in. I'm in the US but the first data center that hosted my miners was in China! I currently have a bunch of S7s at Toomim Brothers ( http://toom.im/) and I could not be happier with them. Jonathan and his brother are quick to act, knowledgeable, conscientious, and are great communicators. (think USA versions of kano and -ck ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) ) I know we have some here that host at Oregon Mines ( https://www.oregonmines.com/) and I hear that SideHack is full right now. I have the last of my S5s in a data center in Sweden (not recommended). The cheapest place I know of is Great North Data ( http://www.greatnorthdata.com/). I seriously tried to send a bunch of S5s to them but at the last second they decided that they would only take a new client if they had at least 30KW of hardware. My S5s at the time were only 10KW worth. I have not heard if they still have this policy or not.
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March 12, 2016, 06:50:21 PM |
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It's good advice but shipping my miners is going to be a killer and I'd still like to be able to physically access them... It's probably not that important as long as I can monitor them remotely... I'm still thinking, I think there's a thread listing hosting company for miners somewhere ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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March 12, 2016, 06:55:22 PM |
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It's good advice but shipping my miners is going to be a killer and I'd still like to be able to physically access them... It's probably not that important as long as I can monitor them remotely... I'm still thinking, I think there's a thread listing hosting company for miners somewhere ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=622998.0 ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I try to keep up with these...
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March 12, 2016, 06:57:20 PM |
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my only issue is the rising diff and the 1/2ing. would hate to send the units off just for only a few months just to have to get them shipped back and sell them or scrap them. and cost wise it is better to do a year at a time, but then again that's a large chunk of change to plop down at once.
might stick it out till new hardware is released if there is any and then get those hosted.
do you have to send psu to them (toomin) as well or just the unit and they supply the psu? not sure how they do it since power is metered.
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March 12, 2016, 07:35:49 PM Last edit: March 12, 2016, 08:43:48 PM by clgrissom3 |
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my only issue is the rising diff and the 1/2ing. would hate to send the units off just for only a few months just to have to get them shipped back and sell them or scrap them. and cost wise it is better to do a year at a time, but then again that's a large chunk of change to plop down at once.
might stick it out till new hardware is released if there is any and then get those hosted.
do you have to send psu to them (toomin) as well or just the unit and they supply the psu? not sure how they do it since power is metered.
I bought Gold rated PSUs for each of my S7s from Toomim for $80 each and they have been working great. They have Platinum rated PSUs for $120 as well which can save you $4 a month per S7 but I didn't try those. I did check with Oregon Mines and they normally allow you to pay month to month. They are also a little cheaper than Toomim bit I don't have any personal experience with them. The interesting thing about bitcoin mining is everything we do is super risky, from buying hardware with 90 day warranties to having faith in BTC itself. I just took a risk, sold all the hardware I had in my garage (to make sure I would never be tempted to power things back up one day), used the money I got to upgrade to S7s and had them shipped directly from Bitmain to Toomim (my first 4 were Batch 1 that were wayyyy overpriced). I was scared to death that I had done the wrong thing but now I am only 24 days away from my break even point in all this stuff. I literally have -$834.95 left in my spreadsheet to make up and it turns from red to black. What will happen this summer? Who knows...it will either work out roses for all of us, go right down the crapper, or fall somewhere in the middle. That's how we roll everyday! I hope everything works out and we keep the kano party going!EDIT: The great thing is I can connect directly to my miners! https://i.imgur.com/ujQokM4.jpg This is one of my Batch 1s with fans at 35%...
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nhando
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March 12, 2016, 08:38:16 PM |
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Can we get a few blocks? Game time almost over. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Just "Mining" my own business.
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March 12, 2016, 08:40:30 PM |
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(to make sure I would never be tempted to power things back up one day) I know the feeling. I was supposed to sell my 4xSP20s while upgrading to Avalon6s. Instead I just found myself moving them out the the garage as I was moving my miners from their winter to summer location. They are still profiting about BTC0.23/mo 14 months after I got them. They are probably more profitable sold than held onto at this point, but now I'm getting these visions of solo mining on them until halving...... Wishful thinking. Sound advice: sell first then buy!
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March 12, 2016, 08:47:07 PM Last edit: March 12, 2016, 09:27:19 PM by nhando |
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my only issue is the rising diff and the 1/2ing. would hate to send the units off just for only a few months just to have to get them shipped back and sell them or scrap them. and cost wise it is better to do a year at a time, but then again that's a large chunk of change to plop down at once.
might stick it out till new hardware is released if there is any and then get those hosted.
do you have to send psu to them (toomin) as well or just the unit and they supply the psu? not sure how they do it since power is metered.
I bought Gold rated PSUs for each of my S7s from Toomim for $80 each and they have been working great. They have Platinum rated PSUs for $120 as well which can save you $4 a month per S7 but I didn't try those. I did check with Oregon Mines and they normally allow you to pay month to month. They are also a little cheaper than Toomim bit I don't have any personal experience with them. The interesting thing about bitcoin mining is everything we do is super risky, from buying hardware with 90 day warranties to having faith in BTC itself. I just took a risk, sold all the hardware I had in my garage (to make sure I would never be tempted to power things back up one day), used the money I got to upgrade to S7s and had them shipped directly from Bitmain to Toomim (my first 4 were Batch 1 that were wayyyy overpriced). I was scared to death that I had done the wrong thing but now I am only 24 days away from my break even point in all this stuff. I literally have -$834.95 left in my spreadsheet to make up and it turns from red to black. What will happen this summer? Who knows...it will either work out roses for all of us, go right down the crapper, or fall somewhere in the middle. That's how we roll everyday! I hope everything works out and we keep the kano party going!EDIT: The great thing is I can connect directly to my miners! https://i.imgur.com/ujQokM4.jpg This is one of my Batch 1s with fans at 35%... Congrats on the ROI. It's always good to hear these awesome story, instead of the usual cry of "I can't ROI even if I have free electricity". That is the silliest thing I always hear. If that's the case, no one would be mining at all. The trend is not looking good right now. Blocks are coming in real slow with just 1 in the last 1hr 40mins in total.
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March 12, 2016, 10:47:38 PM |
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Diff is going up guys. This pool is great, but if we keep paying high rental prices we all lose money. Even the lowest market price is way to high for the diff.
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Crispyato
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March 12, 2016, 10:58:30 PM |
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Does anyone know a far market placed rental site for longer rents or rented/owned hash? Somewhere with a profit margin under the diff estimates or at least near the diff estimates? Maybe I just need a new rig and to get it hosted. I'm just looking at the loss from a short bad luck period and the worst part is I paid %30-50 over what you might make at %100 or more. Some are paying 0.01TH\day, driving the price. I'm also seeking an interest bearing wallet. I know this is off topic, but I trust you guys.
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March 12, 2016, 10:59:37 PM |
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Diff is going up guys. This pool is great, but if we keep paying high rental prices we all lose money. Even the lowest market price is way to high for the diff.
Not sure what you're talking about. Kano renters are getting much much smarter and are usually paying below or just at market rate. My reverse rental business haven't been as good as it used to be. Used to get 10-30% easily, now many people can rent below market rate due to larger hashing availabilities 19PH vs 7-8PH. See those huge orders for .0027 and .0026? Way way under market price, so basically that's the smart way to play leverage.
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March 12, 2016, 11:00:27 PM |
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Block time?
I may have access to some warehouses where i live and the electricity their is 8.5¢/kWh and might host from them in the near future.
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Mines at Kano.is best profit in the world!
在Kano.is的BTC
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March 12, 2016, 11:09:43 PM |
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my only issue is the rising diff and the 1/2ing. would hate to send the units off just for only a few months just to have to get them shipped back and sell them or scrap them. and cost wise it is better to do a year at a time, but then again that's a large chunk of change to plop down at once.
might stick it out till new hardware is released if there is any and then get those hosted.
do you have to send psu to them (toomin) as well or just the unit and they supply the psu? not sure how they do it since power is metered.
I bought Gold rated PSUs for each of my S7s from Toomim for $80 each and they have been working great. They have Platinum rated PSUs for $120 as well which can save you $4 a month per S7 but I didn't try those. I did check with Oregon Mines and they normally allow you to pay month to month. They are also a little cheaper than Toomim bit I don't have any personal experience with them. The interesting thing about bitcoin mining is everything we do is super risky, from buying hardware with 90 day warranties to having faith in BTC itself. I just took a risk, sold all the hardware I had in my garage (to make sure I would never be tempted to power things back up one day), used the money I got to upgrade to S7s and had them shipped directly from Bitmain to Toomim (my first 4 were Batch 1 that were wayyyy overpriced). I was scared to death that I had done the wrong thing but now I am only 24 days away from my break even point in all this stuff. I literally have -$834.95 left in my spreadsheet to make up and it turns from red to black. What will happen this summer? Who knows...it will either work out roses for all of us, go right down the crapper, or fall somewhere in the middle. That's how we roll everyday! I hope everything works out and we keep the kano party going!EDIT: The great thing is I can connect directly to my miners! https://i.imgur.com/ujQokM4.jpg This is one of my Batch 1s with fans at 35%... When you guys hosts, what happened when there's equipment failure? Is it up to you to work with the vendor or do the hosting people do it for you?
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clgrissom3
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March 12, 2016, 11:20:19 PM |
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my only issue is the rising diff and the 1/2ing. would hate to send the units off just for only a few months just to have to get them shipped back and sell them or scrap them. and cost wise it is better to do a year at a time, but then again that's a large chunk of change to plop down at once.
might stick it out till new hardware is released if there is any and then get those hosted.
do you have to send psu to them (toomin) as well or just the unit and they supply the psu? not sure how they do it since power is metered.
I bought Gold rated PSUs for each of my S7s from Toomim for $80 each and they have been working great. They have Platinum rated PSUs for $120 as well which can save you $4 a month per S7 but I didn't try those. I did check with Oregon Mines and they normally allow you to pay month to month. They are also a little cheaper than Toomim bit I don't have any personal experience with them. The interesting thing about bitcoin mining is everything we do is super risky, from buying hardware with 90 day warranties to having faith in BTC itself. I just took a risk, sold all the hardware I had in my garage (to make sure I would never be tempted to power things back up one day), used the money I got to upgrade to S7s and had them shipped directly from Bitmain to Toomim (my first 4 were Batch 1 that were wayyyy overpriced). I was scared to death that I had done the wrong thing but now I am only 24 days away from my break even point in all this stuff. I literally have -$834.95 left in my spreadsheet to make up and it turns from red to black. What will happen this summer? Who knows...it will either work out roses for all of us, go right down the crapper, or fall somewhere in the middle. That's how we roll everyday! I hope everything works out and we keep the kano party going!EDIT: The great thing is I can connect directly to my miners! https://i.imgur.com/ujQokM4.jpg This is one of my Batch 1s with fans at 35%... When you guys hosts, what happened when there's equipment failure? Is it up to you to work with the vendor or do the hosting people do it for you? I'm not sure...haven't had to cross that bridge yet with Toomim! When I was with the DC in China, I bought every S5 I had directly from them and they would just swap out the machine if it failed or consistently low hashed.
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March 12, 2016, 11:36:38 PM |
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time for some block finding. lets see it
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March 12, 2016, 11:37:30 PM |
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Diff is going up guys. This pool is great, but if we keep paying high rental prices we all lose money. Even the lowest market price is way to high for the diff.
Not sure what you're talking about. Kano renters are getting much much smarter and are usually paying below or just at market rate. My reverse rental business haven't been as good as it used to be. Used to get 10-30% easily, now many people can rent below market rate due to larger hashing availabilities 19PH vs 7-8PH. See those huge orders for .0027 and .0026? Way way under market price, so basically that's the smart way to play leverage. yeah you need to wait to mine with rentals a .29 or lower is good the .28 at 1000th .27 at 2000th and .26 at 4000 are all really good.
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March 13, 2016, 12:04:07 AM |
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I can't afford a PH. I've been working up with small long rents. Where are you guys getting these prices ? Nice hash or something else? I've been using MRR, just to pricey. Every time I use nice hash my order just gets burned up at a higher hash rate than requested or stops running. How would you make a profit on a smaller scale? I used to have more investment, but my contract work hasn't come in for a month. Looking for something new.
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March 13, 2016, 12:21:25 AM |
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Asking for a block (or several) again... can I get one right away like when I asked this morning?
I'm starting to lose on last night's rentals!
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