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[tournamentdan]

Anyways. Good luck. Hopefully luck changes for everyone here. I won't put up with the irresponsible claims. Mine on.

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[HerbPean]

You don't see me making any claims on a A6 or A7 or whatever miner. Simply because I never owned one of those models. That's the way it should be. I was not rude or post false claims.

Because I actually asked to others miners/friends, who own way more units then you, make their experience with the product false and irrelevant ?

Ho wait, I shouldn't talk about the S9, I don't own one since the S1-S3-S4-S5-S7 are irrelevant while talking about the S9.

Yup.
As I stated before. Just because I own a ford explorer doesn't mean I know how a ford Mustang performs.
Sorry bud I don't know you. Anybody can say I got friend with a bunch of s9's.  Therfore it makes it hearsay. And should not be used.

Yeah say the guy with 33 posts on this forum.

So you"re saying that we should trust no ones here and especially all the shit you're throwing at us.

Thanks for clarifying that.

EDIT: BOOM I just hit Legendary !

[suchmoon]

You don't see me making any claims on a A6 or A7 or whatever miner. Simply because I never owned one of those models. That's the way it should be. I was not rude or post false claims.

Because I actually asked to others miners/friends, who own way more units then you, make their experience with the product false and irrelevant ?

Ho wait, I shouldn't talk about the S9, I don't own one since the S1-S3-S4-S5-S7 are irrelevant while talking about the S9.

Yup.
As I stated before. Just because I own a ford explorer doesn't mean I know how a ford Mustang performs.
Sorry bud I don't know you. Anybody can say I got friend with a bunch of s9's.  Therfore it makes it hearsay. And should not be used.

As opposed to you saying you own a bunch of S9s?

Why don't you start an S9 owners' thread where you could require proof of ownership before you let anyone post. I'm sure it will be immensely popular.

[kano]

You don't see me making any claims on a A6 or A7 or whatever miner. Simply because I never owned one of those models. That's the way it should be. I was not rude or post false claims.

Because I actually asked to others miners/friends, who own way more units then you, make their experience with the product false and irrelevant ?

Ho wait, I shouldn't talk about the S9, I don't own one since the S1-S3-S4-S5-S7 are irrelevant while talking about the S9.

Yup.
As I stated before. Just because I own a ford explorer doesn't mean I know how a ford Mustang performs.
Sorry bud I don't know you. Anybody can say I got friend with a bunch of s9's.  Therfore it makes it hearsay. And should not be used.

Strange how cars and miners work differently.

... and yes, you telling people who have been mining for a long time with Bitmain miners, that they don't know about mining and that you do coz you say so, with a not very much used account, really doesn't go down well with anyone except that other person who's posts I keep deleting

[tournamentdan]

You don't see me making any claims on a A6 or A7 or whatever miner. Simply because I never owned one of those models. That's the way it should be. I was not rude or post false claims.

Because I actually asked to others miners/friends, who own way more units then you, make their experience with the product false and irrelevant ?

Ho wait, I shouldn't talk about the S9, I don't own one since the S1-S3-S4-S5-S7 are irrelevant while talking about the S9.

Yup.
As I stated before. Just because I own a ford explorer doesn't mean I know how a ford Mustang performs.
Sorry bud I don't know you. Anybody can say I got friend with a bunch of s9's.  Therfore it makes it hearsay. And should not be used.

As opposed to you saying you own a bunch of S9s?

I have never made any false claims or claims of an object I have never used or owned.
Edit:
As kano suggested I removed my link of proof that had a little to much info. Thanks Kano.

[kano]

You don't see me making any claims on a A6 or A7 or whatever miner. Simply because I never owned one of those models. That's the way it should be. I was not rude or post false claims.

Because I actually asked to others miners/friends, who own way more units then you, make their experience with the product false and irrelevant ?

Ho wait, I shouldn't talk about the S9, I don't own one since the S1-S3-S4-S5-S7 are irrelevant while talking about the S9.

Yup.
As I stated before. Just because I own a ford explorer doesn't mean I know how a ford Mustang performs.
Sorry bud I don't know you. Anybody can say I got friend with a bunch of s9's.  Therfore it makes it hearsay. And should not be used.

As opposed to you saying you own a bunch of S9s?

I have never made any false claims or claims of an object I have never used or owned.

Link

Looks like someone paid for about 25 miners ... except the web link doesn't work

[tournamentdan]

You don't see me making any claims on a A6 or A7 or whatever miner. Simply because I never owned one of those models. That's the way it should be. I was not rude or post false claims.

Because I actually asked to others miners/friends, who own way more units then you, make their experience with the product false and irrelevant ?

Ho wait, I shouldn't talk about the S9, I don't own one since the S1-S3-S4-S5-S7 are irrelevant while talking about the S9.

Yup.
As I stated before. Just because I own a ford explorer doesn't mean I know how a ford Mustang performs.
Sorry bud I don't know you. Anybody can say I got friend with a bunch of s9's.  Therfore it makes it hearsay. And should not be used.

Strange how cars and miners work differently.

... and yes, you telling people who have been mining for a long time with Bitmain miners, that they don't know about mining and that you do coz you say so, with a not very much used account, really doesn't go down well with anyone except that other person who's posts I keep deleting

Show me where I said that long time miners know nothing. And I said I know more. Stop making shit up. I have only stated if you have not owned or used an s9. You have NO EXPERIENCE WITH THE S9. Therfore your opinion on the s9 is nothing but hearsay  (or in other words shit).
It would be like if I never mined on your pool. And yet talk shit to other people about your pool. It's stupid.

 

[kano]

You don't see me making any claims on a A6 or A7 or whatever miner. Simply because I never owned one of those models. That's the way it should be. I was not rude or post false claims.

Because I actually asked to others miners/friends, who own way more units then you, make their experience with the product false and irrelevant ?

Ho wait, I shouldn't talk about the S9, I don't own one since the S1-S3-S4-S5-S7 are irrelevant while talking about the S9.

Yup.
As I stated before. Just because I own a ford explorer doesn't mean I know how a ford Mustang performs.
Sorry bud I don't know you. Anybody can say I got friend with a bunch of s9's.  Therfore it makes it hearsay. And should not be used.

Strange how cars and miners work differently.

... and yes, you telling people who have been mining for a long time with Bitmain miners, that they don't know about mining and that you do coz you say so, with a not very much used account, really doesn't go down well with anyone except that other person who's posts I keep deleting

Show me where I said that long time miners know nothing. And I said I know more. Stop making shit up. I have only stated if you have not owned or used an s9. You have NO EXPERIENCE WITH THE S9. Therfore your opinion on the s9 is nothing but hearsay  (or in other words shit).
It would be like if I never mined on your pool. And yet talk shit to other people about your pool. It's stupid.

Yeah I deleted them

[tournamentdan]

You don't see me making any claims on a A6 or A7 or whatever miner. Simply because I never owned one of those models. That's the way it should be. I was not rude or post false claims.

Because I actually asked to others miners/friends, who own way more units then you, make their experience with the product false and irrelevant ?

Ho wait, I shouldn't talk about the S9, I don't own one since the S1-S3-S4-S5-S7 are irrelevant while talking about the S9.

Yup.
As I stated before. Just because I own a ford explorer doesn't mean I know how a ford Mustang performs.
Sorry bud I don't know you. Anybody can say I got friend with a bunch of s9's.  Therfore it makes it hearsay. And should not be used.

Strange how cars and miners work differently.

... and yes, you telling people who have been mining for a long time with Bitmain miners, that they don't know about mining and that you do coz you say so, with a not very much used account, really doesn't go down well with anyone except that other person who's posts I keep deleting

Show me where I said that long time miners know nothing. And I said I know more. Stop making shit up. I have only stated if you have not owned or used an s9. You have NO EXPERIENCE WITH THE S9. Therfore your opinion on the s9 is nothing but hearsay  (or in other words shit).
It would be like if I never mined on your pool. And yet talk shit to other people about your pool. It's stupid.

Yeah I deleted them

You must mean like this deleted post.

Agreed, but then I wouldn't see their BS to point out that @kano knows more about the pool stats than he/sheit could ever imagine knowing!  

One can only "point out" based on the things that Kano doesn't delete proving him wrong (unless you actually believe Kano knows more than the Stanford Department of Mathematics). 

Both of you...if you choose to disparage someone whom you do not really know...at all...and choose to make asinine assumptions based on your own self-perceived/defined moral prowess...then you deserve whatever the Universe hands to you.

I was just going to let it go. The very few times I've been subjected to such ignorant crap over the past 35 years, that has worked. I'm not letting it go this time. You've overstepped big time. You can get away with such stuff at the local pub (actually, you'd be run out of most bars here on a rail if you said something like that), but not in a supposedly civilized venue. Even our biker bar is better heeled than that.

I know Kano and CK will see this. I expect it will be deleted in the interest of smooth ops, and that's OK. But before they do, I'll say that (1) I'm not going to ignore you, because as a retired profiler I want to know what you're up to, and (2) I'm saturating the mods (so the admins will actually take notice) with getting you banned. Nothing you have posted to date has been of much value to the pool, or any of us, unless of course we happen to share your pinhole-camera views.

Con or Kano...if you'd like for me to "take a vacation" from the board, PM me. It's fine. Apparently these guys need the ego boost. I don't.

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While it's obvious that I never really looked into the inner workings of a hash. So I will not comment on the statistics. However part of the problem with the conflicts are the people that continue to comment on products they have never owned. It may be time for everyone to self reflect. Who knows. You might find your own pinhole camera views.

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[kano]

That reply is not even related to firetreeactual's comment - so yeah it deserved to be deleted.
It's got nothing to do with S9 hardware reliability.

Read her post again and you will see that the reply below it has nothing to do with it.
In fact her response is related exactly to my deleting all that crap from the retard who doesn't understand statistics but seems to need to tell me that his grade school maths explains why I'm wrong.

[suchmoon]

I have never made any false claims or claims of an object I have never used or owned.

You're missing the point. I don't need to know if you own any S9s because that's irrelevant. You seem to be drawing fundamentally wrong conclusions about the reliability of the S9 and it would still be wrong whether you post a screenshot, or a selfie, or whatever. But even that's not your most ridiculous claim. That honor goes to your insistence that nobody else can dispute it. Because random reasons.

I don't own a lot of things yet I don't think that disqualifies me from having strong opinions about them.

For example I don't own kano pool but I visit the thread anyway because (among other things) the guy who does actually own it also knows a thing or two about mining and is not shy of sharing it.

I also don't own Antpool but I don't like it because (among other things) their 0% fee is misleading and they take much more via tx fees.

That is my opinion. And I'm not gonna post a screenshot to make it look worth more than it is. If someone thinks my opinion is shit I welcome an argument on facts, not on some made up ownership criteria.

[tournamentdan]

That reply is not even related to firetreeactual's comment - so yeah it deserved to be deleted.
It's got nothing to do with S9 hardware reliability.

Read her post again and you will see that the reply below it has nothing to do with it.
In fact her response is related exactly to my deleting all that crap from the retard who doesn't understand statistics.

It has everything to do with ALL of the comments. Especially because she has in the past. Just like you. Made comments on the reliability of the s9. Even though you have both said you have never owned one.
These conflicts are a direct result of irresponsible comments.  Maybe innocent at heart. Still irresponsible.

[tournamentdan]

I have never made any false claims or claims of an object I have never used or owned.

You're missing the point. I don't need to know if you own any S9s because that's irrelevant. You seem to be drawing fundamentally wrong conclusions about the reliability of the S9 and it would still be wrong whether you post a screenshot, or a selfie, or whatever. But even that's not your most ridiculous claim. That honor goes to your insistence that nobody else can dispute it. Because random reasons.

I don't own a lot of things yet I don't think that disqualifies me from having strong opinions about them.

For example I don't own kano pool but I visit the thread anyway because (among other things) the guy who does actually own it also knows a thing or two about mining and is not shy of sharing it.

I also don't own Antpool but I don't like it because (among other things) their 0% fee is misleading and they take much more via tx fees.

That is my opinion. And I'm not gonna post a screenshot to make it look worth more than it is. If someone thinks my opinion is shit I welcome an argument on facts, not on some made up ownership criteria.

Your comparison is flawed because most likey. You have mined on both there by giving you sufficient data to form a opinion and put it to words.

Edit: I was just trying to show that I am not putting any false claims. And that I can back up anything that I say.

[tournamentdan]

My Bitmain hardware experience...

S1 - solid as a rock.  Had them overclocked at 200GH each and they hummed along happily with no issues ever.
S2 - delicate.  If you managed to get units undamaged, and if you didn't manage to blow up the crap PSU it came with, and if you had perfect temperatures, and if you didn't look at it the wrong way, and if you didn't mine on p2pool, then it would work.
S3 - flaky. They were finicky as hell, and you had to find the "sweet spot".  Some hashed at advertised speeds, some hashed lower, others higher.  Once you found that sweet sport, they were pretty solid.  Occasional "x" that a cold boot would solve.  Random occasional restarts.  They definitely lasted forever (I have 8 in my basement that still hash when I power them up).
S5 - lousy.  They'd hash solid for a bit, then start to fail.  Random "x" and "-" would appear.  Then the entire board would crap out.  Sometimes a full cold boot would fix things for a bit.  Other times, nothing would work.

I never owned any Bitmain gear after the S5.  Their garbage software hacks combined with their blatantly misleading and false claims on their pools was enough to keep me away.

This is a perfect example of a good review. Notice how they make no mention of an s9 since they never used or owned one.

[kano]

That reply is not even related to firetreeactual's comment - so yeah it deserved to be deleted.
It's got nothing to do with S9 hardware reliability.

Read her post again and you will see that the reply below it has nothing to do with it.
In fact her response is related exactly to my deleting all that crap from the retard who doesn't understand statistics.

It has everything to do with ALL of the comments.
...

No it doesn't.

... Especially because she has in the past. Just like you. Made comments on the reliability of the s9. Even though you have both said you have never owned one.
These conflicts are a direct result of irresponsible comments.  Maybe innocent at heart. Still irresponsible.

If you have a post she's made you want to reply to, then you reply to it.
(though that doesn't mean it can't be deleted )

Your reply is to a post that basically has nothing to do with your reply and then you disparage her in the reply.
So I deleted it.
End of story.

[tournamentdan]

That reply is not even related to firetreeactual's comment - so yeah it deserved to be deleted.
It's got nothing to do with S9 hardware reliability.

Read her post again and you will see that the reply below it has nothing to do with it.
In fact her response is related exactly to my deleting all that crap from the retard who doesn't understand statistics.

It has everything to do with ALL of the comments.
...

No it doesn't.

... Especially because she has in the past. Just like you. Made comments on the reliability of the s9. Even though you have both said you have never owned one.
These conflicts are a direct result of irresponsible comments.  Maybe innocent at heart. Still irresponsible.

If you have a post she's made you want to reply to, then you reply to it.
(though that doesn't mean it can't be deleted )

Your reply is to a post that basically has nothing to do with your reply and then you disparage her in the reply.
So I deleted it.
End of story.

Disparage?  I think you need a drug test.

[suchmoon]

I have never made any false claims or claims of an object I have never used or owned.

You're missing the point. I don't need to know if you own any S9s because that's irrelevant. You seem to be drawing fundamentally wrong conclusions about the reliability of the S9 and it would still be wrong whether you post a screenshot, or a selfie, or whatever. But even that's not your most ridiculous claim. That honor goes to your insistence that nobody else can dispute it. Because random reasons.

I don't own a lot of things yet I don't think that disqualifies me from having strong opinions about them.

For example I don't own kano pool but I visit the thread anyway because (among other things) the guy who does actually own it also knows a thing or two about mining and is not shy of sharing it.

I also don't own Antpool but I don't like it because (among other things) their 0% fee is misleading and they take much more via tx fees.

That is my opinion. And I'm not gonna post a screenshot to make it look worth more than it is. If someone thinks my opinion is shit I welcome an argument on facts, not on some made up ownership criteria.

Your comparison is flawed because most likey. You have mined on both there by giving you sufficient data to form a opinion and put it to words.

Nothing of what I mentioned above requires me to have mined on those pools. Having done so or not done so wouldn't have made my opinion any different. There is no "data" to be obtained via mining that would affect what I said. And I doubt it would have made it any more or less valuable to anyone else either.

Does my mining (or not) on kano pool make kano any more (or less) knowledgeable?

Does my mining (or not) on Antpool make their fees different?

Now I will concede that owning a mining device might provide useful data to form an opinion about certain aspects of said device. Except in your case where you extrapolate your alleged 100% reliability in a way that makes no sense whatsoever.

[bitwitt]

It looks like some of the rats that jumped ship are starting to come back...it's amazing what a short 220% luck streak can do.

Not a rat that jumped ship nor will I come back!  The banter here about s9 is BS.  Again, I try to make a profit mining.
 With kano pool at  under 1 % of difficulty you all could be in for a wild ride . Take a look a Bitminter stats for the last year.  


Good luck to all.

[kano]

That reply is not even related to firetreeactual's comment - so yeah it deserved to be deleted.
It's got nothing to do with S9 hardware reliability.

Read her post again and you will see that the reply below it has nothing to do with it.
In fact her response is related exactly to my deleting all that crap from the retard who doesn't understand statistics.

It has everything to do with ALL of the comments.
...

No it doesn't.

... Especially because she has in the past. Just like you. Made comments on the reliability of the s9. Even though you have both said you have never owned one.
These conflicts are a direct result of irresponsible comments.  Maybe innocent at heart. Still irresponsible.

If you have a post she's made you want to reply to, then you reply to it.
(though that doesn't mean it can't be deleted )

Your reply is to a post that basically has nothing to do with your reply and then you disparage her in the reply.
So I deleted it.
End of story.

Disparage?  I think you need a drug test.

I think you need an English test

[tournamentdan]

I have never made any false claims or claims of an object I have never used or owned.

You're missing the point. I don't need to know if you own any S9s because that's irrelevant. You seem to be drawing fundamentally wrong conclusions about the reliability of the S9 and it would still be wrong whether you post a screenshot, or a selfie, or whatever. But even that's not your most ridiculous claim. That honor goes to your insistence that nobody else can dispute it. Because random reasons.

I don't own a lot of things yet I don't think that disqualifies me from having strong opinions about them.

For example I don't own kano pool but I visit the thread anyway because (among other things) the guy who does actually own it also knows a thing or two about mining and is not shy of sharing it.

I also don't own Antpool but I don't like it because (among other things) their 0% fee is misleading and they take much more via tx fees.

That is my opinion. And I'm not gonna post a screenshot to make it look worth more than it is. If someone thinks my opinion is shit I welcome an argument on facts, not on some made up ownership criteria.

Your comparison is flawed because most likey. You have mined on both there by giving you sufficient data to form a opinion and put it to words.

Now I will concede that owning a mining device might provide useful data to form an opinion about certain aspects of said device. Except in your case where you extrapolate your alleged 100% reliability in a way that makes no sense whatsoever.

Makes perfect sense. If the problems were as bad as certain people has made it seem like. I would have had issues somewhere. With out a doubt on how some people are making it out to be the end of the world. I would have had a problem. Yet nope.

It not good for the pool. And the pool has had enough problems.  

With that I'm done. I wish this pool with nothing but great luck. Have fun.