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October 24, 2012, 04:13:34 AM
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I have other online businesses and have shipped many things to nearly every continent.

DHL Express International is your very best option. There is no option that will be better.

One of the things that makes DHL express international a good option is for many countries they actually have customs agents on the planes that work on clearing items while they are still in the air.

Certain countries like Germany are very suspicious of packages coming from the USA, other countries like those in south America and asia its just a very long process when going through USPS because they hand it over to the local postal service which does not give two shits about USPS priority / express or anything else, it gets thrown in a pile with everything else and they will get to it , when they get to it.

DHL has their own customs departments in many countries and they do not hand them off to anyone else, it stays with them from pickup to delivery.

If you live in the USA it probably does not make sense to do the upgrade, maybe even Canada, if you see any quicker service at all it will be minimal but for those outside US/Canada you will see a HUGE difference in delivery time by using DHL Express International


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October 24, 2012, 04:17:23 AM
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Sweet - I'd love to upgrade my shipping but how should I do that for a guest checkout order?
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October 24, 2012, 04:19:17 AM
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DHL is indeed the best but they will for sure check your package so you can pay import taxes Tongue Wink (assuming they ship from US to EU)

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October 24, 2012, 05:03:00 AM
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when are power requirements going to be released ? as well as some pictures of the prototype board ?

+1 for pictures.
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October 24, 2012, 05:34:59 AM
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when are power requirements going to be released ? as well as some pictures of the prototype board ?

+1 for pictures.

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October 24, 2012, 05:55:42 AM
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How high do you estimate the tax for the import to be Germany?
I expect a 19% import tax and customs charges around 4-18%.
Does anyone possibly like the ASIC miners are classified by Customs?
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October 24, 2012, 06:03:12 AM
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I'm so close to the shipping origin AFAIK (NY right?) that I'm going to stick with the normal shipping option.  Should only take 1-2 days I think to the Northeast.

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October 24, 2012, 06:40:16 AM
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How high do you estimate the tax for the import to be Germany?
I expect a 19% import tax and customs charges around 4-18%.
Does anyone possibly like the ASIC miners are classified by Customs?

This has been posted before:
http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/dds2/taric/measures.jsp?Lang=en&SimDate=20121022&Area=US&Taric=8542399000&LangDescr=en

You've got to check for yourself if it applys.
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October 24, 2012, 07:20:37 AM
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Does anyone possibly like the ASIC miners are classified by Customs?

I think they have no idea what is ASIC or Bitcoin, they will handle with it as with regular computer hardware.

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For example this one would be suitable:

Processors and controllers, whether or not combined with memories, converters, logic circuits, amplifiers, clock and timing circuits, or other circuits
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October 24, 2012, 07:41:18 AM
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I think they have no idea what is ASIC or Bitcoin, they will handle with it as with regular computer hardware.

I wonder if anyone has tried to pay BTC to the government for their taxes on a purchase made with and invoiced as BTC

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October 24, 2012, 08:29:54 AM
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I'll jump on the DHL bandwagon and try get the customs thing sorted quickly,
my fpga sat at customs for 4 days while we screwed around :/

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October 24, 2012, 09:05:28 AM
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I wonder if anyone has tried to pay BTC to the government for their taxes on a purchase made with and invoiced as BTC

I think that price on invoice will be listed also in USD or other "regular" currency, otherwise it did not pass through customs.
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October 24, 2012, 09:22:13 AM
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I'll jump on the DHL bandwagon and try get the customs thing sorted quickly,
my fpga sat at customs for 4 days while we screwed around :/
Odd, everything I've got from overseas BTC wise so far has come straight to me.

Though, in all 4 cases it has been sent with EMS.
Two from mainland-China, one from Hong Kong and one from New York.

(however, as I've mentioned elsewhere, many courier companies that deliver to Sydney/Aus take the item to the post office and leave a card in your letterbox that tells you to go get it from the post office)

I'll have to find the labels to see what was written on each one ...

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October 24, 2012, 09:38:55 AM
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How high do you estimate the tax for the import to be Germany?
I expect a 19% import tax and customs charges around 4-18%.
Does anyone possibly like the ASIC miners are classified by Customs?
19% import tax and no custom charges (there is no custom fee on processors or integrated circuits).

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October 24, 2012, 09:51:15 AM
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So what do I do if I want to upgrade my order to DHL Express. I have an account on the old homepage.
Do I just place a new order with only the DHL Express upgrade in it?

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October 24, 2012, 10:01:18 AM
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Holy fuck thats some bad tax :/

we need someone from a country that doesnt have that tax and smuggle in Tongue

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October 24, 2012, 10:56:58 AM
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19% import tax .. makes me cringe a little

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October 24, 2012, 11:08:45 AM
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19% import tax .. makes me cringe a little

The 19% in Germany isn't really import tax, it's VAT.

Import tax, as it has been mentioned before, is probably 0% for European customers. (I'haven't had it checked yet, I'll post details as soon as I get concrete answers.)

You buy your bASIC in the US without tax as well, or am I missing something here: EX TAX: $1,069.99?

If you have a company and buy your ASIC's you can reclaim the VAT so it's a zero sum game, although you'd have to check out how and as what you declare potential profits with mining in your country and what the goverment will get from your profits.

That's something for your accountant and lawyer to figure out as this varies from country to country.
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October 24, 2012, 11:31:32 AM
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will there be a chance to reduce those 19%? Or even get around it? I dont care if you guys think its the right thing to pay 19%, in my opinion its not, i dont see why i would pay my government 19% from something i bought with dollar, made in the USA.

So what possibilities are there? Put no bill inside and afterwards tell them you got it from ebay or what? Asking for a bill that states something cheaper?

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October 24, 2012, 11:51:15 AM
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This would be the link for all german customers, read through it, inform yourself.

http://www.zoll.de/DE/Fachthemen/Steuern/Einfuhrumsatzsteuer/einfuhrumsatzsteuer_node.html;jsessionid=C59F02000C45E91DD69F078470D35294

will there be a chance to reduce those 19%? Or even get around it? I dont care if you guys think its the right thing to pay 19%, in my opinion its not, i dont see why i would pay my government 19% from something i bought with dollar, made in the USA.

So what possibilities are there? Put no bill inside and afterwards tell them you got it from ebay or what? Asking for a bill that states something cheaper?


Simply put, in the USA if you buy something you've got to pay sales tax.
In Germany/United Kingdom, if you buy something you've got to pay MWSt/VAT.
What I'm trying to say is, as an end-customer you've always got to pay tax.
If you own a company you can make use of pre tax deduction, and get the tax you payed, back, but as I mentioned before this is not as easy as it sounds.

You're getting hung up on different terms. Although sales tax is much lower then VAT/MwSt, it more or less is the same.

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Also, following discussions about this topic should start in a new thread as this is a topic for everyone buying something from the US and enough information can be found on the web.

Tom's thread has been derailed enough for a day.
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