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November 02, 2012, 11:47:43 PM Last edit: November 02, 2012, 11:59:46 PM by gmaxwell |
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I'm now removing further "MeSarah"'s posts from this thread and wll remove them generally anywhere in the mining subform at least so long as they keep repeating the same things. As it stands these repetitive posts off-topic and over the top and I'm reasonably convinced that no one here is interested in hearing more of them. Let me know if I've made a mistake. Alternatively, if whomever is paying these trolls wants to send me a substantial kickback I _may_ be persuaded to look away and allow the insanity to continue: 136H7e7oHYtddM9iPNLG8ZGDqZvme2ogUn Also— I _strongly_ recommend using the ignore button when you see people that are constantly idiots, dishonest, or otherwise abusive. You can still view the posts if you must for context. Ignore is like a distributed ban and the text turns yellow as more people do it, signaling to other people that the community considers that person to be a waste of time or worse.
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November 02, 2012, 11:48:11 PM |
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I just wanted to thank cable for running the contest and want to post a picture of my new mod miner up and running. I'm sure this setup is not FCC compliant and I hope Saruhhhh reports you! ;-)
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November 02, 2012, 11:51:48 PM |
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I'm now removing further "MeSarah"'s posts from this thread and wll remove them generally anywhere in the mining subform at least so long as they keep repeating the same things. As it stands these repetitive posts off-topic and over the top and I'm reasonably convinced that no one here is interested in hearing more of them. Let me know if I've made a mistake. Alternatively, if whomever is paying these trolls wants to send me a substantial kickback I _may_ be persuaded to look away and allow the insanity to continue: 136H7e7oHYtddM9iPNLG8ZGDqZvme2ogUn Seriously......... Every court needs a Jester.
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November 03, 2012, 12:00:21 AM |
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atleast its a nice smooth 65 degrees in there.
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November 03, 2012, 01:19:43 AM |
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The first person to post which movie I am referencing here (and proving you are a child of the 80's) will win 5 free physical bitcoins from https://www.casascius.com/ !!! Good Luck ! With all this MeTroll thing I almost forgot that I won the surprise Halloween raffle. I'm so happy. You can PM me Cablepair. I'm wasting so much time by checking this thread so often. This Casascius coins win will just make it worst...
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November 03, 2012, 01:37:18 AM Last edit: November 05, 2012, 08:31:25 PM by Maged |
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For the record: I will contact the FCC and find out what changes we need to make if any to keep within regulation.
Design-wise, if you think you may have an issue with unintentional radiation, you might consider using a spread-spectrum clock source. If you wanna sniff around yourself for unintentional radiation, there's a handy gadget ppl are calling RTLSDR that can function as a cheap spectrum analyzer for radio sources from 64MHz to 2.2GHz or so: http://www.rtlsdr.org/A voice of reason in the room. You might try a Bitscope. It's what I use at home. SERIOUSLY?!? A F***ing BITSCOPE is your standard of how to do FCC compliance testing?!?
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November 03, 2012, 01:41:27 AM Last edit: November 05, 2012, 08:34:09 PM by Maged |
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I couldn't care less about FCC approval, and that even goes for BFL hardware. These are not consumer products, and I don't expect the manufacturers to be wasting money on expensive certifications.
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November 03, 2012, 01:48:48 AM |
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I propose the following, see what people think.
People in the first batch are going to be discussing hooking them up, tech support.
A irc channel just for tech support first batch. Set it up now, get people invited - developer, software, pre order customers.
This way all the discussion related to when we get them will be moderated and controlled. We will also be able to help each other better this way. I am only talking about this being active during early release times, not permanent
I am new to irc, but someone besides tom should be able to do this and we get a invite code somehow.
Thoughts?
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November 03, 2012, 02:28:43 AM |
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A irc channel just for tech support first batch. Set it up now, get people invited - developer, software, pre order customers.
This way all the discussion related to when we get them will be moderated and controlled. We will also be able to help each other better this way. I am only talking about this being active during early release times, not permanent
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Thoughts?
IRC might be useful for that sort of thing, but it's very ephemeral. The first bASIC shipment will be worldwide (I'm in Australia, myself) and it might be a bit difficult for people to get assistance at times. That's not saying IRC doesn't have a use here; just that it probably shouldn't be the main support line. Tom has talked about the possibility of setting up a forum; I think that would be an excellant idea and would allow a much higher degree of moderation than either here or IRC. That said, I don't know the degree to which people would use something like that [has anyone here had much experience with the BFL forums and the degree to which they are used/abused?] so it may or may not be worthwhile. Remember that Tom has a much smaller client base than BFL, so the cost per client, measured in both time and money, is possibly far higher. In any case, even in the absence of a forum, I'm sure we'll find some way to communicate, either here, an ad-hoc IRC channel, Reddit, or some other forum, so I wouldn't worry too much about it at this stage (we're still a month off, remember).
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November 03, 2012, 02:34:59 AM |
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A irc channel just for tech support first batch. Set it up now, get people invited - developer, software, pre order customers.
This way all the discussion related to when we get them will be moderated and controlled. We will also be able to help each other better this way. I am only talking about this being active during early release times, not permanent
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Thoughts?
IRC might be useful for that sort of thing, but it's very ephemeral. The first bASIC shipment will be worldwide (I'm in Australia, myself) and it might be a bit difficult for people to get assistance at times. That's not saying IRC doesn't have a use here; just that it probably shouldn't be the main support line. Tom has talked about the possibility of setting up a forum; I think that would be an excellant idea and would allow a much higher degree of moderation than either here or IRC. That said, I don't know the degree to which people would use something like that [has anyone here had much experience with the BFL forums and the degree to which they are used/abused?] so it may or may not be worthwhile. Remember that Tom has a much smaller client base than BFL, so the cost per client, measured in both time and money, is possibly far higher. In any case, even in the absence of a forum, I'm sure we'll find some way to communicate, either here, an ad-hoc IRC channel, Reddit, or some other forum, so I wouldn't worry too much about it at this stage (we're still a month off, remember). Maybe each vendor could be given a subforum here, in which they have moderating powers.
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November 03, 2012, 04:39:38 AM |
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A irc channel just for tech support
IRC is good for chatting, not support. You would need to repeat the answer every time someone asks the question (or create a bot to spew the same information out automatically). A forum is really the best way for interactive support. Tom has talked about the possibility of setting up a forum; I think that would be an excellant idea and would allow a much higher degree of moderation than either here or IRC.
That said, I don't know the degree to which people would use something like that [has anyone here had much experience with the BFL forums and the degree to which they are used/abused?] so it may or may not be worthwhile. Remember that Tom has a much smaller client base than BFL, so the cost per client, measured in both time and money, is possibly far higher.
In any case, even in the absence of a forum, I'm sure we'll find some way to communicate, either here, an ad-hoc IRC channel, Reddit, or some other forum, so I wouldn't worry too much about it at this stage (we're still a month off, remember).
Tom did talk about setting up a forum, but I think he should really just set up an announcement blog. Post the announcement here and on that page. I don't want Tom spending his time moderating forums, since he is already behind on replying to emails. And you know there will be lots of drama if he has to pick some moderators from the user-base. If you did ship first, I guess you would be suddenly swamped with orders, which would cause a sudden cancellation & immediate cash flow problems for competitors, possibly followed by imminent implosion.
Implosion sounds a bit extreme. I think it is more because Tom now has a chance of being the first ASIC to ship, which is making some early pre-orderers at competitors angry that they have had their money tied up for so much longer and might not even be first with an ASIC anymore. Prior to BFL's announcement about delaying to the end of November, Tom's company was just the one with a shorter waiting list. Compound that with the fact that Tom is taking the second batch now, they can't even appease their anger by pre-ordering here (I know some pre-ordered at both, but some didn't have the foresight to). I fully plan to contact the FCC regarding compliance.
Ugh the FCC is why FM transmitters suck. Companies have to go through shenanigans in order to make a decent one. On the other side of the coin, since an ASIC miner is a non-intentional transmitter, I suggest you just check with your design company instead of directly with the FCC regarding a Declaration of Conformity.
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November 03, 2012, 04:58:07 AM |
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From what I understand, BFL's last announced shipping date/goal is around the same time as Tom's? Are we just assuming that they won't make it? I gather that they have a reputation for not meeting shipping date goals.
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November 03, 2012, 05:10:13 AM |
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#btcfpga already exists on freenode people chat and support each other already I run an IRC for my pool and find IRC a great tool for real time troubleshooting - it can also be a time sink, where possible I link to answers to the frequently asked questions that come up thus not "answering the same question over and again"
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November 03, 2012, 05:13:24 AM |
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dont know if anyone has noticed this so far, but here is a very rough estimated power usage for the bASIC unit, https://www.bitcoinasic.net/index.php?route=product/allgiven "up to 10 bASIC" units, we dont know if that refers to the 27 or 54gh one... either way. Best case, its 1.85watts/GH, using the 54gh as reference. Worse case, 3.7watts/GH .. using 27GH as reference. If the mining units dont use the 5v line from PSU at all, then estimate bout 50-100watts off the 1kw Also an unknown is weather that 1kw unit would be powering said motherboard / cpu / RAM setup behind the bASIC If so then take another 40-70watts off that 1kw So, given an avg of the 2 mentioned items above, lets assume up to 850watts for bASIC's left over.. brings consumption down to 1.57w/GH for the 54gh Interesting..
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November 03, 2012, 05:38:25 AM |
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No,the "tin foil" type will be sufficient
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November 03, 2012, 06:59:16 AM |
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bASIC product details do not mention power supply, only DC barrel connector in the specs. So do i need to acquire separately a power supply and connector?
Or is there even the barrel connector supplied so i can easily hook it up to any power supply providing sufficient 12VDC?
It would be really nice if bASIC is just as finished product as BFLs are, ie. everything supplied in a case + fans, just plug it in.
I would like too to know if the barrel connector is supplied with the device or should I buy it, in that case any suggestion? Best
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November 03, 2012, 07:09:43 AM |
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Angry neighborhood bastard mod here.
Enough with the trolling. I'm tired of seeing thread reports for this thread. Next step is I talk to theymos about banning all the BFL shills.
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November 03, 2012, 07:47:33 AM |
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Angry neighborhood bastard mod here.
Enough with the trolling. I'm tired of seeing thread reports for this thread. Next step is I talk to theymos about banning all the BFL shills.
Excellent! Thank you!
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November 03, 2012, 08:37:01 AM |
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From what I understand, BFL's last announced shipping date/goal is around the same time as Tom's? Are we just assuming that they won't make it? I gather that they have a reputation for not meeting shipping date goals.
Prior to the beginning of this week, BFL was scheduled to ship before BTCFPGA. Now they are about the same time. That's why I said Tom now has a chance to be the first to ship an ASIC. #btcfpga already exists on freenode people chat and support each other already
I went in there once to look for Tom, but he had already gotten off the computer. So I called him instead and he picked up Gonna dust off my IRC client and lurk in there now
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