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January 31, 2016, 11:51:23 AM
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So is the cuda 7.5 miners up to par with the 6.5 releases? I've stuck with the last 6.5 release, is it time to upgrade  Grin

Also dumb question maybe, but what was the advantage of moving to 7.5?

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January 31, 2016, 12:18:29 PM
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So is the cuda 7.5 miners up to par with the 6.5 releases? I've stuck with the last 6.5 release, is it time to upgrade  Grin

Also dumb question maybe, but what was the advantage of moving to 7.5?
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January 31, 2016, 12:40:15 PM
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So is the cuda 7.5 miners up to par with the 6.5 releases? I've stuck with the last 6.5 release, is it time to upgrade  Grin

Also dumb question maybe, but what was the advantage of moving to 7.5?
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January 31, 2016, 04:57:48 PM
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can tpruvot's latest git be compiled under cuda 6.5 still?

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January 31, 2016, 05:38:57 PM
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can tpruvot's latest git be compiled under cuda 6.5 still?


TPRUVOT CAN BE COMPILED WITH CUDA 6.5--

I just did it on all my Linux rigs.       --scryptr

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January 31, 2016, 07:29:10 PM
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anyone get sp_'s version to show consistent pool vs. local hashrates for vanilla?

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anyone get sp_'s version to show consistent pool vs. local hashrates for vanilla?

I TRIED--

But I didn't try for long.  It wasn't a fair trial.  I was more worried about mining when the price for VanillaCoin (VNL) was good.  The miner from tpruvot worked smoothly, and it may not be the fastest, but I needed consistent performance.

The price for VNL is dropping already.I mined about 350 coins or so, and am planning to trade for BitCoin.       --scryptr

EDIT:   I did not find any performance flags that increased the hash rate for VNL.  Setting the intensity to "-i 31" did nothing to increase performance.  The command string "-C --cpu-priority 5" is not supported on tpruvot's miner, it usually makes a big difference when using sp_ 's miner.

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January 31, 2016, 11:03:42 PM
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just -C is different, not needed (default) but called --cuda-schedule like genoil miner

cpu-priority is there

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January 31, 2016, 11:25:19 PM
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anyone get sp_'s version to show consistent pool vs. local hashrates for vanilla?

I TRIED--

But I didn't try for long.  It wasn't a fair trial.  I was more worried about mining when the price for VanillaCoin (VNL) was good.  The miner from tpruvot worked smoothly, and it may not be the fastest, but I needed consistent performance.

The price for VNL is dropping already.I mined about 350 coins or so, and am planning to trade for BitCoin.       --scryptr

EDIT:   I did not find any performance flags that increased the hash rate for VNL.  Setting the intensity to "-i 31" did nothing to increase performance.  The command string "-C --cpu-priority 5" is not supported on tpruvot's miner, it usually makes a big difference when using sp_ 's miner.

--scryptr


I mined more then 450 vnl ans sell them by best prices on last week... my hashrate in middle is 11 gh...

                                 
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January 31, 2016, 11:33:05 PM
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just -C is different, not needed (default) but called --cuda-schedule like genoil miner

cpu-priority is there

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Thanks for the information.  I will put it away for later.       --scryptr

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wish these coins would stay profitable for more than a day  Roll Eyes

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wish these coins would stay profitable for more than a day  Roll Eyes

CUDAMINER THREAD--

Somewhere in CBuchner's CudaMiner thread (all 1100+ pages of it) a miner said, "...every coin we talk about becomes unprofitable..." .It is the nature of the beast.       --scryptr

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wish these coins would stay profitable for more than a day  Roll Eyes
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February 01, 2016, 01:13:36 AM
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wish these coins would stay profitable for more than a day  Roll Eyes
if people weren't dumping like crazy right after mining, it would profitable longer...
hence stop dumping... have some vtc, it went several time from not profitable to very profitable, if you are patient enough
you can get an interesting deal... that the way altcoins work, but since a year it is the "dump directly on exchange" which seems to prevail hence the low profit... well sorry but this is a bit on you... (please spare me the "I have electricity bill to pay..." which isn't a good excuse...

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wish these coins would stay profitable for more than a day  Roll Eyes
if people weren't dumping like crazy right after mining, it would profitable longer...
hence stop dumping... have some vtc, it went several time from not profitable to very profitable, if you are patient enough
you can get an interesting deal... that the way altcoins work, but since a year it is the "dump directly on exchange" which seems to prevail hence the low profit... well sorry but this is a bit on you... (please spare me the "I have electricity bill to pay..." which isn't a good excuse...
I dont sell. I put orders higher then price. And then orders close. I dont sell. 😈

                                 
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February 01, 2016, 04:33:36 AM
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wish these coins would stay profitable for more than a day  Roll Eyes
if people weren't dumping like crazy right after mining, it would profitable longer...
hence stop dumping... have some vtc, it went several time from not profitable to very profitable, if you are patient enough
you can get an interesting deal... that the way altcoins work, but since a year it is the "dump directly on exchange" which seems to prevail hence the low profit... well sorry but this is a bit on you... (please spare me the "I have electricity bill to pay..." which isn't a good excuse...

It's human nature and it will be done whether I do it or not. It's up to the coins to have a difficulty retargetting
algorithm that can compensate for drastic changes in in network hash rate caused by profit switching multipools.
I know I'm talking about minig, not exchange rate but hey are linked. Diff is low, multipools jump in, score a pile
of coins and dump them on the market driving the price down.

I dpn't know why coin diff swings so wildly if it just stayed stable, moving by fractions to compensate for changes
in hash rate. If they don't make dramatic changes in diff the multipools won't be jumping in and out, the net hash
will be stable and so will the price, or the price will be driven by other factors.

It's just a matter of adapting to the environment.

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February 01, 2016, 10:11:56 AM
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wish these coins would stay profitable for more than a day  Roll Eyes

Just shows you how many miners are out there. Vanilla was great for about half a day, then people hopped off of other big coins or ones with private miners (like x11) and wrecked it, then they went back to their more profitable private miners.


if people weren't dumping like crazy right after mining, it would profitable longer...
hence stop dumping... have some vtc, it went several time from not profitable to very profitable, if you are patient enough
you can get an interesting deal... that the way altcoins work, but since a year it is the "dump directly on exchange" which seems to prevail hence the low profit... well sorry but this is a bit on you... (please spare me the "I have electricity bill to pay..." which isn't a good excuse...

It's not profitable UNLESS you exchange them for BTC. Otherwise you're just a bag holder. Artificial coin pricing based on people not selling coins is not a market you want to be in (happened with Burst). That means when people sell, the whole market will collapse. The coin will equalize at whatever the daily mine rate is for the coin, minus buy support. Which is usually about the same for all coins as the market and mining profitability equalizes.

The only people the coin would stay profitable for if people held coins are the people actually selling. It's a good way to screw over your fellow miners.

I have electricity to pay for is a great excuse. Miners don't mine to be bag holders. They aren't investors, that's a completely different job title. Investors buy the coin and hold it for value to increase.

It's human nature and it will be done whether I do it or not. It's up to the coins to have a difficulty retargetting
algorithm that can compensate for drastic changes in in network hash rate caused by profit switching multipools.
I know I'm talking about minig, not exchange rate but hey are linked. Diff is low, multipools jump in, score a pile
of coins and dump them on the market driving the price down.

I dpn't know why coin diff swings so wildly if it just stayed stable, moving by fractions to compensate for changes
in hash rate. If they don't make dramatic changes in diff the multipools won't be jumping in and out, the net hash
will be stable and so will the price, or the price will be driven by other factors.

It's just a matter of adapting to the environment.

I guarantee you that Vanilla isn't on a multipool yet due to the weird algo it uses. That being said, multipools are really no different then miners. Miners mine whatever is most profitable and profitability changes based on difficulty. If you sit on a coin for like 24hr it'll start to normalize with a multipool and all the other coins.

That being said there aren't many multipools available for altcoins anymore. Haspower.co is one of the few that does weird algos and it's not super popular. Multipools sorta ended with Scrypt. Nicehash could qualify as a multipool as well as the bots running on it usually target whatever is most profitable, it does the same thing. Since it's not run by one person either, that means it gets any of the small coins that everyone else misses.

Nicehash was really what ruined mining for most small miners, mainly the fact that it's just run by a handful of people with good pricing bots and it's impossible for a normal user to use anything but fixed orders. And even fixed orders are now being run by bots too.

And yup, miners will dump on exchanges because that's what they do. Don't expect miners to be investors.

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February 01, 2016, 10:24:32 AM
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This time I completely agree with bensam.
The market will reach a balance when only people with private miners or very cheap electricity can mine at a profit (stably enough thru time).
That's why you need to be very smart to make money, if you are a small miner.
I managed to make profit stably since I started, that's the proof it's possible.

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February 01, 2016, 10:27:15 AM
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wish these coins would stay profitable for more than a day  Roll Eyes

Just shows you how many miners are out there. Vanilla was great for about half a day, then people hopped off of other big coins or ones with private miners (like x11) and wrecked it, then they went back to their more profitable private miners.


if people weren't dumping like crazy right after mining, it would profitable longer...
hence stop dumping... have some vtc, it went several time from not profitable to very profitable, if you are patient enough
you can get an interesting deal... that the way altcoins work, but since a year it is the "dump directly on exchange" which seems to prevail hence the low profit... well sorry but this is a bit on you... (please spare me the "I have electricity bill to pay..." which isn't a good excuse...

It's not profitable UNLESS you exchange them for BTC. Otherwise you're just a bag holder. Artificial coin pricing based on people not selling coins is not a market you want to be in (happened with Burst). That means when people sell, the whole market will collapse. The coin will equalize at whatever the daily mine rate is for the coin, minus buy support. Which is usually about the same for all coins as the market and mining profitability equalizes.

The only people the coin would stay profitable for if people held coins are the people actually selling. It's a good way to screw over your fellow miners.

I have electricity to pay for is a great excuse. Miners don't mine to be bag holders. They aren't investors, that's a completely different job title. Investors buy the coin and hold it for value to increase.

and why "investors" would buy a coin which gets dumped on a daily basis, by miners ? I mean you realize there is no point in investing in something which loses value on a daily basis, because people like you aren't able to hold a little.
To keep a profitable offer, you can't have infinite supply... that's seems pretty logical to me.

You completely miss the point actually... and that's the reason why many coins went to POS, to avoid moronic miners like you... and quite frankly you are the one getting hurt in the process... because investors stop investing and you are the losing money in electricity... anyway, this is basic economy...

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February 01, 2016, 06:31:05 PM
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wish these coins would stay profitable for more than a day  Roll Eyes

Just shows you how many miners are out there. Vanilla was great for about half a day, then people hopped off of other big coins or ones with private miners (like x11) and wrecked it, then they went back to their more profitable private miners.


if people weren't dumping like crazy right after mining, it would profitable longer...
hence stop dumping... have some vtc, it went several time from not profitable to very profitable, if you are patient enough
you can get an interesting deal... that the way altcoins work, but since a year it is the "dump directly on exchange" which seems to prevail hence the low profit... well sorry but this is a bit on you... (please spare me the "I have electricity bill to pay..." which isn't a good excuse...

It's not profitable UNLESS you exchange them for BTC. Otherwise you're just a bag holder. Artificial coin pricing based on people not selling coins is not a market you want to be in (happened with Burst). That means when people sell, the whole market will collapse. The coin will equalize at whatever the daily mine rate is for the coin, minus buy support. Which is usually about the same for all coins as the market and mining profitability equalizes.

The only people the coin would stay profitable for if people held coins are the people actually selling. It's a good way to screw over your fellow miners.

I have electricity to pay for is a great excuse. Miners don't mine to be bag holders. They aren't investors, that's a completely different job title. Investors buy the coin and hold it for value to increase.

and why "investors" would buy a coin which gets dumped on a daily basis, by miners ? I mean you realize there is no point in investing in something which loses value on a daily basis, because people like you aren't able to hold a little.
To keep a profitable offer, you can't have infinite supply... that's seems pretty logical to me.

You completely miss the point actually... and that's the reason why many coins went to POS, to avoid moronic miners like you... and quite frankly you are the one getting hurt in the process... because investors stop investing and you are the losing money in electricity... anyway, this is basic economy...


Totally agreed with djm34 on that point.  It seems like those who "dump" the coin faster than others, while the value was high, will earn more... which is kinna sad...
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