CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded GPU kernels.

[fenomenhaa]

Can anyone share with me the bat file of ethminer on gt970 and 750ti mixed system. i cannot coonfigure it proparly. (

Forget about 750ti for ETH in windows. It's hashrate is around 2-3MH. It is only profitable in linux but also with much lower hashrate then some months ago.
You should mine something else with 750ti.

And don't forget to oc the memory aswell when mining ETH

What about 970 's i can change the cards on rigs, and rebuilt the some of rigs with just 970's, if it's worth to do it )

[dominuspro]

Can anyone share with me the bat file of ethminer on gt970 and 750ti mixed system. i cannot coonfigure it proparly. (

Forget about 750ti for ETH in windows. It's hashrate is around 2-3MH. It is only profitable in linux but also with much lower hashrate then some months ago.
You should mine something else with 750ti.

And don't forget to oc the memory aswell when mining ETH

What about 970 's i can change the cards on rigs, and rebuilt the some of rigs with just 970's, if it's worth to do it )

970 makes a bit over 20MH(it depends on OC). Calculate the profits there: http://etherscan.io/ether-mining-calculator and reduce it by ~10% if pool mining.

[joblo]

You don't understand merged mining because you don't understand why mining exists. The point of it is to secure the coin, not make money on a P & D and move onto the next shitcoin.

+1 (couldn't say it better)

I'ts not that I don't understand merged mining I'm just pointing out that there isn't any appeal
in it for miners. For the coin to  be secure it has to appeal to a large number of miners or the principals
need to supply enough hash themselves. The merged coins have so little value they can't make it on their
own so they hook up with a larger coin and feed on its appeal.

[djm34]

You don't understand merged mining because you don't understand why mining exists. The point of it is to secure the coin, not make money on a P & D and move onto the next shitcoin.

+1 (couldn't say it better)

I'ts not that I don't understand merged mining I'm just pointing out that there isn't any appeal
in it for miners. For the coin to  be secure it has to appeal to a large number of miners or the principals
need to supply enough hash themselves. The merged coins have so little value they can't make it on their
own so they hook up with a larger coin and feed on its appeal.

the +1 wasn't for the merge mining but for the role of mining in securing a coin network... (obviously... well apparently not )

[joblo]

You don't understand merged mining because you don't understand why mining exists. The point of it is to secure the coin, not make money on a P & D and move onto the next shitcoin.

+1 (couldn't say it better)

I'ts not that I don't understand merged mining I'm just pointing out that there isn't any appeal
in it for miners. For the coin to  be secure it has to appeal to a large number of miners or the principals
need to supply enough hash themselves. The merged coins have so little value they can't make it on their
own so they hook up with a larger coin and feed on its appeal.

the +1 wasn't for the merge mining but for the role of mining in securing a coin network... (obviously... well apparently not )

Good one. That's certainly the intent of the coin devs but not the miners, If the two interests intersect at some point that
will become the center of gravity and will become the normal. It's actually a race to the center not the bottom.

[Liquid71]

You don't understand merged mining because you don't understand why mining exists. The point of it is to secure the coin, not make money on a P & D and move onto the next shitcoin.

+1 (couldn't say it better)

I'ts not that I don't understand merged mining I'm just pointing out that there isn't any appeal
in it for miners. For the coin to  be secure it has to appeal to a large number of miners or the principals
need to supply enough hash themselves. The merged coins have so little value they can't make it on their
own so they hook up with a larger coin and feed on its appeal.

No actually you don't understand merged mining. Are you saying Namecoin is not secure? Is Doge insecure? Merge mining isn't because coins have so little value, it's to leverage the security of an existing blockchain and reward miners with no effort or any additional costs.

[joblo]

You don't understand merged mining because you don't understand why mining exists. The point of it is to secure the coin, not make money on a P & D and move onto the next shitcoin.

+1 (couldn't say it better)

I'ts not that I don't understand merged mining I'm just pointing out that there isn't any appeal
in it for miners. For the coin to  be secure it has to appeal to a large number of miners or the principals
need to supply enough hash themselves. The merged coins have so little value they can't make it on their
own so they hook up with a larger coin and feed on its appeal.

No actually you don't understand merged mining. Are you saying Namecoin is not secure? Is Doge insecure? Merge mining isn't because coins have so little value, it's to leverage the security of an existing blockchain and reward miners with no effort or any additional costs.

WTF are you talking about? I never said any such thing. I said nothing about the parent coin and rsent you trying
to put words in my mouth. If yo continue to do so I will stop responding to you. Read what I said again in context
to what I was responding to and try a response that makes some sense.

BTW your clains are meaningless. The leech coin's worth is a very small fraction of the value of the host so adds
virtually no value or benefit to the host coin or the miners mining it. I've probably made less than a penny with
unitis in the past year. And what do miners care about "leveraging the security of an existing blockchain".
We just want our coins, as much as we can get, like any other greedy humans.

[djm34]

You don't understand merged mining because you don't understand why mining exists. The point of it is to secure the coin, not make money on a P & D and move onto the next shitcoin.

+1 (couldn't say it better)

I'ts not that I don't understand merged mining I'm just pointing out that there isn't any appeal
in it for miners. For the coin to  be secure it has to appeal to a large number of miners or the principals
need to supply enough hash themselves. The merged coins have so little value they can't make it on their
own so they hook up with a larger coin and feed on its appeal.

No actually you don't understand merged mining. Are you saying Namecoin is not secure? Is Doge insecure? Merge mining isn't because coins have so little value, it's to leverage the security of an existing blockchain and reward miners with no effort or any additional costs.

WTF are you talking about? I never said any such thing. I said nothing about the parent coin and rsent you trying
to put words in my mouth. If yo continue to do so I will stop responding to you. Read what I said again in context
to what I was responding to and try a response that makes some sense.

BTW your clains are meaningless. The leech coin's worth is a very small fraction of the value of the host so adds
virtually no value or benefit to the host coin or the miners mining it. I've probably made less than a penny with
unitis in the past year. And what do miners care about "leveraging the security of an existing blockchain".
We just want our coins, as much as we can get, like any other greedy humans.

do we really care about merge mining in anyway

[Beave162]

Can someone please post results for the 750TI at NF17? hash/s and total power usage of the rig.

[djm34]

Can someone please post results for the 750TI at NF17? hash/s and total power usage of the rig.

what is it NF17 ?

[ol92]

Can someone please post results for the 750TI at NF17? hash/s and total power usage of the rig.

what is it NF17 ?

I suppose n-scrypt with nfactor =17

[Beave162]

Can someone please post results for the 750TI at NF17? hash/s and total power usage of the rig.

what is it NF17 ?

I suppose n-scrypt with nfactor =17

scrypt-chacha (aka scrypt-jane) NFactor =17 (YACoin)

[Liquid71]

WTF are you talking about? I never said any such thing. I said nothing about the parent coin and rsent you trying
to put words in my mouth. If yo continue to do so I will stop responding to you. Read what I said again in context
to what I was responding to and try a response that makes some sense.

BTW your clains are meaningless. The leech coin's worth is a very small fraction of the value of the host so adds
virtually no value or benefit to the host coin or the miners mining it. I've probably made less than a penny with
unitis in the past year. And what do miners care about "leveraging the security of an existing blockchain".
We just want our coins, as much as we can get, like any other greedy humans.

They are NOT leach coins, they leech NOTHING. Fiat value is NOT the only value. Namecoin has both fiat and real world VALUE. Sounds like you're the leech complaining that free merge mined coins don't pay you enough fiat even though they cost you NOTHING to mine.

Miners aren't all leeches such as yourself trying to suck every penny we can out of crypto. Also your statement contradicts yourself, you claim the merge mined coins are worth pennies and call them leech coins yet you are trying to leech every penny you can out of mining. 

People mined Bitcoin before you could even sell it..dumb fuckers they should have been mining something else  

Your statement about merge mined coins being leech coins is flat out false.

If you stop responding to me I might cry  

[Liquid71]

do we really care about merge mining in anyway

Not really, but I do like free coins  

[joblo]

Your statement about merge mined coins being leech coins is flat out false.

You're an advocate therefore not objective. In an open market you can't dictate how people will
react to any given situation. You'd like it to go a certain way but that never happens. People
will always try to get an edge over everyone else, either by legitimate means or therwise.
The fact you don't like how people react doens't make you rigtht and them wrong. It's just
the way it is. You can try to lobby people to think your way but they will always look out for
number 1. Deal with it.

There's nothing wrong with being opinionated, life would be boring otherwise. But opinion
is not fact and don't make it personal when some don't agree with yours.

You should really be more polite, it helps your argument not to insult people in the process.

And, again you're misrepresenting what I said. I said merged mining wasn't worth it because
their value is such a small fraction of the host coin. So what if it's free it's a fraction of a %.
There's virtually nothing it in for the host coin or miners. Only the leech coin, and I stand
by that characterization,  benefits from the merge. yet another point of mine you took out
of context.

Now get your head out of your ass.

That was sarcasm, it's time to lighten up.

[maxim000]

Can someone please post results for the 750TI at NF17? hash/s and total power usage of the rig.

750Ti 2Gb overcloced to 1400 - 120 h/s
750Ti 1Gb overcloced - 60 h/s

6 x 750Ti 2Gb rig - 720 h/s, ~360 watt from wall (PS 80+ bronze)

750Ti 4Gb same as 2Gb , - make jane conditions more powerfull than for 2Gb appear error in blake512 function

using tpruvot ccminer or last cudaminer with     -l t64x1  -L 16

[Liquid71]

Your statement about merge mined coins being leech coins is flat out false.

You're an advocate therefore not objective. In an open market you can't dictate how people will
react to any given situation. You'd like it to go a certain way but that never happens. People
will always try to get an edge over everyone else, either by legitimate means or therwise.
The fact you don't like how people react doens't make you rigtht and them wrong. It's just
the way it is. You can try to lobby people to think your way but they will always look out for
number 1. Deal with it.

There's nothing wrong with being opinionated, life would be boring otherwise. But opinion
is not fact and don't make it personal when some don't agree with yours.

You should really be more polite, it helps your argument not to insult people in the process.

And, again you're misrepresenting what I said. I said merged mining wasn't worth it because
their value is such a small fraction of the host coin. So what if it's free it's a fraction of a %.
There's virtually nothing it in for the host coin or miners. Only the leech coin, and I stand
by that characterization,  benefits from the merge. yet another point of mine you took out
of context.

Now get your head out of your ass.

That was sarcasm, it's time to lighten up.

The host coin has NOTHING to do with the merge mined coin. In fact you can't stop a coin from being merge mined. The purpose of a merge mined coin isn't for the "host coin" or the miner. Bitcoin wasn't invented to serve miners.
MBL (mobile cash) is a Lyra2REv2 merge mined coin and can be mined on both Vertcoin and Mona. Doge can be merge mined on any scrypt coin. The coins aren't leeches, they just don't force miners to mine ONLY their blockchain, so in a way they are benefiting miners. The fact that the prices suck, well that doesn't make free merge mined coins bad or leeching off the "host" coin.
I also wish more people would mine promising coins when multipools are paying so low and then sell when the coin pumps. I held VTC until the recent pump and made a lot more than had I just been mining on Nice Hash or whatever multi algo multi pool. I used p2pool to mine VTC and also merge mined MBL for free and have a stack of MBL which most likely will end up another failed shitcoin but it cost me nothing.

Anyway I just think you misunderstand merge mined coins. They are mostly worthless but they cost nothing and leech nothing. Also these forums used to be about mining coins people believed in and it's depressing now that it's all gone to straight mining for BTC and then everyone complains coins are being dumped and prices are low. Guess I miss the old days.
If I came off harsh, well it's the bitcointalk and with so many trolls it's hard to know who you're replying to sometimes so I can get an attitude without knowing lol 
Anyway cheers and happy mining to all 

[joblo]

Your statement about merge mined coins being leech coins is flat out false.

You're an advocate therefore not objective. In an open market you can't dictate how people will
react to any given situation. You'd like it to go a certain way but that never happens. People
will always try to get an edge over everyone else, either by legitimate means or therwise.
The fact you don't like how people react doens't make you rigtht and them wrong. It's just
the way it is. You can try to lobby people to think your way but they will always look out for
number 1. Deal with it.

There's nothing wrong with being opinionated, life would be boring otherwise. But opinion
is not fact and don't make it personal when some don't agree with yours.

You should really be more polite, it helps your argument not to insult people in the process.

And, again you're misrepresenting what I said. I said merged mining wasn't worth it because
their value is such a small fraction of the host coin. So what if it's free it's a fraction of a %.
There's virtually nothing it in for the host coin or miners. Only the leech coin, and I stand
by that characterization,  benefits from the merge. yet another point of mine you took out
of context.

Now get your head out of your ass.

That was sarcasm, it's time to lighten up.

The host coin has NOTHING to do with the merge mined coin. In fact you can't stop a coin from being merge mined. The purpose of a merge mined coin isn't for the "host coin" or the miner. Bitcoin wasn't invented to serve miners.
MBL (mobile cash) is a Lyra2REv2 merge mined coin and can be mined on both Vertcoin and Mona. Doge can be merge mined on any scrypt coin. The coins aren't leeches, they just don't force miners to mine ONLY their blockchain, so in a way they are benefiting miners. The fact that the prices suck, well that doesn't make free merge mined coins bad or leeching off the "host" coin.
I also wish more people would mine promising coins when multipools are paying so low and then sell when the coin pumps. I held VTC until the recent pump and made a lot more than had I just been mining on Nice Hash or whatever multi algo multi pool. I used p2pool to mine VTC and also merge mined MBL for free and have a stack of MBL which most likely will end up another failed shitcoin but it cost me nothing.

Anyway I just think you misunderstand merge mined coins. They are mostly worthless but they cost nothing and leech nothing. Also these forums used to be about mining coins people believed in and it's depressing now that it's all gone to straight mining for BTC and then everyone complains coins are being dumped and prices are low. Guess I miss the old days.
If I came off harsh, well it's the bitcointalk and with so many trolls it's hard to know who you're replying to sometimes so I can get an attitude without knowing lol 
Anyway cheers and happy mining to all 

You raised a very interesting point about BTC vs altcoins. BTC is the only one that is used as currency to any significant
degree but is not mineable by normal people. On the other hand altcoins are still mienable but aren't accepted as currency
by anyone. It's only natural that in that environment autoexchange to BTC would be popular. I've looked for other coins
to collect but haven't found any that are both tradeable as currency and mineable. The only way to get both is auto exchange.
It's a dilema with a market engineered solution. Unfortunately that solution doesn't satisfy many people.

I repeat that I believe it's the problem of the coin devs theselves They engineered their coin a certain way that included
a predicted supply of new coins. I doubt any are even close to their desired supply increment. They could not have anticipated
profit switching and autoexchange would result in wild fluctuations in network hash rate and throw their supply algorithm
out of what. I would expect the new coins would have learned from this and be more resilient to large hash rate fluctuations
but it seems not.

[djm34]

Your statement about merge mined coins being leech coins is flat out false.

You're an advocate therefore not objective. In an open market you can't dictate how people will
react to any given situation. You'd like it to go a certain way but that never happens. People
will always try to get an edge over everyone else, either by legitimate means or therwise.
The fact you don't like how people react doens't make you rigtht and them wrong. It's just
the way it is. You can try to lobby people to think your way but they will always look out for
number 1. Deal with it.

There's nothing wrong with being opinionated, life would be boring otherwise. But opinion
is not fact and don't make it personal when some don't agree with yours.

You should really be more polite, it helps your argument not to insult people in the process.

And, again you're misrepresenting what I said. I said merged mining wasn't worth it because
their value is such a small fraction of the host coin. So what if it's free it's a fraction of a %.
There's virtually nothing it in for the host coin or miners. Only the leech coin, and I stand
by that characterization,  benefits from the merge. yet another point of mine you took out
of context.

Now get your head out of your ass.

That was sarcasm, it's time to lighten up.

The host coin has NOTHING to do with the merge mined coin. In fact you can't stop a coin from being merge mined. The purpose of a merge mined coin isn't for the "host coin" or the miner. Bitcoin wasn't invented to serve miners.
MBL (mobile cash) is a Lyra2REv2 merge mined coin and can be mined on both Vertcoin and Mona. Doge can be merge mined on any scrypt coin. The coins aren't leeches, they just don't force miners to mine ONLY their blockchain, so in a way they are benefiting miners. The fact that the prices suck, well that doesn't make free merge mined coins bad or leeching off the "host" coin.
I also wish more people would mine promising coins when multipools are paying so low and then sell when the coin pumps. I held VTC until the recent pump and made a lot more than had I just been mining on Nice Hash or whatever multi algo multi pool. I used p2pool to mine VTC and also merge mined MBL for free and have a stack of MBL which most likely will end up another failed shitcoin but it cost me nothing.

Anyway I just think you misunderstand merge mined coins. They are mostly worthless but they cost nothing and leech nothing. Also these forums used to be about mining coins people believed in and it's depressing now that it's all gone to straight mining for BTC and then everyone complains coins are being dumped and prices are low. Guess I miss the old days.
If I came off harsh, well it's the bitcointalk and with so many trolls it's hard to know who you're replying to sometimes so I can get an attitude without knowing lol  
Anyway cheers and happy mining to all  

You raised a very interesting point about BTC vs altcoins. BTC is the only one that is used as currency to any significant
degree but is not mineable by normal people. On the other hand altcoins are still mienable but aren't accepted as currency
by anyone. It's only natural that in that environment autoexchange to BTC would be popular. I've looked for other coins
to collect but haven't found any that are both tradeable as currency and mineable. The only way to get both is auto exchange.
It's a dilema with a market engineered solution. Unfortunately that solution doesn't satisfy many people.

I repeat that I believe it's the problem of the coin devs theselves They engineered their coin a certain way that included
a predicted supply of new coins. I doubt any are even close to their desired supply increment. They could not have anticipated
profit switching and autoexchange would result in wild fluctuations in network hash rate and throw their supply algorithm
out of what. I would expect the new coins would have learned from this and be more resilient to large hash rate fluctuations
but it seems not.

I don't want to be that guy...  ,  but can you move this discussion elsewhere... clearly off topic since a couple of pages...

[AzzAz]

Your statement about merge mined coins being leech coins is flat out false.

I don't want to be that guy...  ,  but can you move this discussion elsewhere... clearly off topic since a couple of pages...

Yes, stop it guys