pallas
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February 02, 2016, 12:19:39 PM |
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it's just the usual wealth curve, nothing new. 20% of the people get 80% of the pie. it always works like this, as soon as the balance is reached.
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fenomenhaa
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February 02, 2016, 01:43:52 PM |
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Can anyone share with me the bat file of ethminer on gt970 and 750ti mixed system. i cannot coonfigure it proparly. (
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Liquid71
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February 02, 2016, 02:35:01 PM |
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Miners generally speaking aren't supporters, they keep a coin alive.
That's an oxymoron bensam. If miners are keeping a coin alive, they are most definitely supporters. Generally speaking, it's quite funny how all this mining talk casually ignores the fact that PoW is a race to the bottom. People complaining about small mining profits, would do better to just stop mining, and focus their energies elsewhere. Ah well, I'm probably just at the wrong thread... Sure and it was meant to sound that way. Because they are a drain on the coin, but at the same time they make sure the network doesn't fall apart. It's a bought service. Miners are a oxymoron. XD Not sure how GPU mining is characterized by a 'race to the bottom'. Just like miners aren't responsible for 'pump and dumps'. Coins can become more profitable while still minting the same amount of coins per day (relatively speaking). Minting is a controlled release. Since you're here only for greed, and complain about how little you make, maybe you should get a job flipping burgers
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dominuspro
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February 02, 2016, 02:36:07 PM |
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Can anyone share with me the bat file of ethminer on gt970 and 750ti mixed system. i cannot coonfigure it proparly. ( Forget about 750ti for ETH in windows. It's hashrate is around 2-3MH. It is only profitable in linux but also with much lower hashrate then some months ago. You should mine something else with 750ti. And don't forget to oc the memory aswell when mining ETH
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fenomenhaa
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February 02, 2016, 03:16:55 PM |
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Can anyone share with me the bat file of ethminer on gt970 and 750ti mixed system. i cannot coonfigure it proparly. ( Forget about 750ti for ETH in windows. It's hashrate is around 2-3MH. It is only profitable in linux but also with much lower hashrate then some months ago. You should mine something else with 750ti. And don't forget to oc the memory aswell when mining ETH What about 970 's i can change the cards on rigs, and rebuilt the some of rigs with just 970's, if it's worth to do it )
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dominuspro
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February 02, 2016, 03:35:47 PM |
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Can anyone share with me the bat file of ethminer on gt970 and 750ti mixed system. i cannot coonfigure it proparly. ( Forget about 750ti for ETH in windows. It's hashrate is around 2-3MH. It is only profitable in linux but also with much lower hashrate then some months ago. You should mine something else with 750ti. And don't forget to oc the memory aswell when mining ETH What about 970 's i can change the cards on rigs, and rebuilt the some of rigs with just 970's, if it's worth to do it ) 970 makes a bit over 20MH(it depends on OC). Calculate the profits there: http://etherscan.io/ether-mining-calculator and reduce it by ~10% if pool mining.
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joblo
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February 02, 2016, 08:50:00 PM |
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You don't understand merged mining because you don't understand why mining exists. The point of it is to secure the coin, not make money on a P & D and move onto the next shitcoin.
+1 (couldn't say it better) I'ts not that I don't understand merged mining I'm just pointing out that there isn't any appeal in it for miners. For the coin to be secure it has to appeal to a large number of miners or the principals need to supply enough hash themselves. The merged coins have so little value they can't make it on their own so they hook up with a larger coin and feed on its appeal.
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djm34
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February 02, 2016, 09:51:06 PM |
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You don't understand merged mining because you don't understand why mining exists. The point of it is to secure the coin, not make money on a P & D and move onto the next shitcoin.
+1 (couldn't say it better) I'ts not that I don't understand merged mining I'm just pointing out that there isn't any appeal in it for miners. For the coin to be secure it has to appeal to a large number of miners or the principals need to supply enough hash themselves. The merged coins have so little value they can't make it on their own so they hook up with a larger coin and feed on its appeal. the +1 wasn't for the merge mining but for the role of mining in securing a coin network... (obviously... well apparently not )
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joblo
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February 02, 2016, 09:57:53 PM |
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You don't understand merged mining because you don't understand why mining exists. The point of it is to secure the coin, not make money on a P & D and move onto the next shitcoin.
+1 (couldn't say it better) I'ts not that I don't understand merged mining I'm just pointing out that there isn't any appeal in it for miners. For the coin to be secure it has to appeal to a large number of miners or the principals need to supply enough hash themselves. The merged coins have so little value they can't make it on their own so they hook up with a larger coin and feed on its appeal. the +1 wasn't for the merge mining but for the role of mining in securing a coin network... (obviously... well apparently not ) Good one. That's certainly the intent of the coin devs but not the miners, If the two interests intersect at some point that will become the center of gravity and will become the normal. It's actually a race to the center not the bottom.
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Liquid71
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February 02, 2016, 11:44:36 PM |
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You don't understand merged mining because you don't understand why mining exists. The point of it is to secure the coin, not make money on a P & D and move onto the next shitcoin.
+1 (couldn't say it better) I'ts not that I don't understand merged mining I'm just pointing out that there isn't any appeal in it for miners. For the coin to be secure it has to appeal to a large number of miners or the principals need to supply enough hash themselves. The merged coins have so little value they can't make it on their own so they hook up with a larger coin and feed on its appeal. No actually you don't understand merged mining. Are you saying Namecoin is not secure? Is Doge insecure? Merge mining isn't because coins have so little value, it's to leverage the security of an existing blockchain and reward miners with no effort or any additional costs.
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joblo
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February 03, 2016, 12:02:32 AM |
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You don't understand merged mining because you don't understand why mining exists. The point of it is to secure the coin, not make money on a P & D and move onto the next shitcoin.
+1 (couldn't say it better) I'ts not that I don't understand merged mining I'm just pointing out that there isn't any appeal in it for miners. For the coin to be secure it has to appeal to a large number of miners or the principals need to supply enough hash themselves. The merged coins have so little value they can't make it on their own so they hook up with a larger coin and feed on its appeal. No actually you don't understand merged mining. Are you saying Namecoin is not secure? Is Doge insecure? Merge mining isn't because coins have so little value, it's to leverage the security of an existing blockchain and reward miners with no effort or any additional costs. WTF are you talking about? I never said any such thing. I said nothing about the parent coin and rsent you trying to put words in my mouth. If yo continue to do so I will stop responding to you. Read what I said again in context to what I was responding to and try a response that makes some sense. BTW your clains are meaningless. The leech coin's worth is a very small fraction of the value of the host so adds virtually no value or benefit to the host coin or the miners mining it. I've probably made less than a penny with unitis in the past year. And what do miners care about "leveraging the security of an existing blockchain". We just want our coins, as much as we can get, like any other greedy humans.
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djm34
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February 03, 2016, 08:21:41 AM |
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You don't understand merged mining because you don't understand why mining exists. The point of it is to secure the coin, not make money on a P & D and move onto the next shitcoin.
+1 (couldn't say it better) I'ts not that I don't understand merged mining I'm just pointing out that there isn't any appeal in it for miners. For the coin to be secure it has to appeal to a large number of miners or the principals need to supply enough hash themselves. The merged coins have so little value they can't make it on their own so they hook up with a larger coin and feed on its appeal. No actually you don't understand merged mining. Are you saying Namecoin is not secure? Is Doge insecure? Merge mining isn't because coins have so little value, it's to leverage the security of an existing blockchain and reward miners with no effort or any additional costs. WTF are you talking about? I never said any such thing. I said nothing about the parent coin and rsent you trying to put words in my mouth. If yo continue to do so I will stop responding to you. Read what I said again in context to what I was responding to and try a response that makes some sense. BTW your clains are meaningless. The leech coin's worth is a very small fraction of the value of the host so adds virtually no value or benefit to the host coin or the miners mining it. I've probably made less than a penny with unitis in the past year. And what do miners care about "leveraging the security of an existing blockchain". We just want our coins, as much as we can get, like any other greedy humans. do we really care about merge mining in anyway
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Beave162
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February 03, 2016, 03:33:04 PM |
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Can someone please post results for the 750TI at NF17? hash/s and total power usage of the rig.
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djm34
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February 03, 2016, 05:28:57 PM |
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Can someone please post results for the 750TI at NF17? hash/s and total power usage of the rig.
what is it NF17 ?
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ol92
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February 03, 2016, 06:01:58 PM |
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Can someone please post results for the 750TI at NF17? hash/s and total power usage of the rig.
what is it NF17 ? I suppose n-scrypt with nfactor =17
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Beave162
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February 03, 2016, 06:04:04 PM |
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Can someone please post results for the 750TI at NF17? hash/s and total power usage of the rig.
what is it NF17 ? I suppose n-scrypt with nfactor =17 scrypt-chacha (aka scrypt-jane) NFactor =17 (YACoin)
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Liquid71
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February 04, 2016, 12:30:56 AM |
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WTF are you talking about? I never said any such thing. I said nothing about the parent coin and rsent you trying to put words in my mouth. If yo continue to do so I will stop responding to you. Read what I said again in context to what I was responding to and try a response that makes some sense.
BTW your clains are meaningless. The leech coin's worth is a very small fraction of the value of the host so adds virtually no value or benefit to the host coin or the miners mining it. I've probably made less than a penny with unitis in the past year. And what do miners care about "leveraging the security of an existing blockchain". We just want our coins, as much as we can get, like any other greedy humans.
They are NOT leach coins, they leech NOTHING. Fiat value is NOT the only value. Namecoin has both fiat and real world VALUE. Sounds like you're the leech complaining that free merge mined coins don't pay you enough fiat even though they cost you NOTHING to mine. Miners aren't all leeches such as yourself trying to suck every penny we can out of crypto. Also your statement contradicts yourself, you claim the merge mined coins are worth pennies and call them leech coins yet you are trying to leech every penny you can out of mining. People mined Bitcoin before you could even sell it..dumb fuckers they should have been mining something else Your statement about merge mined coins being leech coins is flat out false. If you stop responding to me I might cry
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Liquid71
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February 04, 2016, 12:34:13 AM |
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do we really care about merge mining in anyway Not really, but I do like free coins
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joblo
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February 04, 2016, 05:39:07 AM |
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Your statement about merge mined coins being leech coins is flat out false.
You're an advocate therefore not objective. In an open market you can't dictate how people will react to any given situation. You'd like it to go a certain way but that never happens. People will always try to get an edge over everyone else, either by legitimate means or therwise. The fact you don't like how people react doens't make you rigtht and them wrong. It's just the way it is. You can try to lobby people to think your way but they will always look out for number 1. Deal with it. There's nothing wrong with being opinionated, life would be boring otherwise. But opinion is not fact and don't make it personal when some don't agree with yours. You should really be more polite, it helps your argument not to insult people in the process. And, again you're misrepresenting what I said. I said merged mining wasn't worth it because their value is such a small fraction of the host coin. So what if it's free it's a fraction of a %. There's virtually nothing it in for the host coin or miners. Only the leech coin, and I stand by that characterization, benefits from the merge. yet another point of mine you took out of context. Now get your head out of your ass. That was sarcasm, it's time to lighten up.
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maxim000
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February 04, 2016, 05:59:36 AM |
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Can someone please post results for the 750TI at NF17? hash/s and total power usage of the rig.
750Ti 2Gb overcloced to 1400 - 120 h/s 750Ti 1Gb overcloced - 60 h/s 6 x 750Ti 2Gb rig - 720 h/s, ~360 watt from wall (PS 80+ bronze) 750Ti 4Gb same as 2Gb , - make jane conditions more powerfull than for 2Gb appear error in blake512 function using tpruvot ccminer or last cudaminer with -l t64x1 -L 16
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