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Why do people still fall for these IPO/ICO coins ...  ICO's aren't intrinsically bad while they also hold some very strong advantages to both the devs and the investors. . It's also hard to start a coin that can't be mined otherwise. We've only seen that they need to be handled much better. It clearly takes a lot more to make these things scam-proof |
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Cryptosis
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December 12, 2014, 05:21:58 PM |
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Why do people still fall for these IPO/ICO coins ... ICO's aren't intrinsically bad while they also hold some very strong advantages to both the devs and the investors. . It's also hard to start a coin that can't be mined otherwise. We've only seen that they need to be handled much better. It clearly takes a lot more to make these things scam-proof This will definitely be my last ICO and my last POS coin for awhile untill there is some real solution to the flaws. For all the flaws in POW coins mining IMO is still the best method of distribution and security. |
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Decentradical
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December 12, 2014, 05:26:55 PM |
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I still insist that the mining days are numbered. There's going to be a point where it won't be profitable to any coin at all and that's not something that people will easily be able to anticipate.
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December 12, 2014, 05:31:13 PM |
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TL / DR summary of the last 20 pages:
Zimbeck was an equal partner since day 1, got 1/5 of the ICO. Told everyone else a different story, that he has only received an 'advance' for Halo tech. Shit hit the fan when the chinese cut him in more than Bob knew 'cuz Bob was chillin' on the Riviera. Bob felt that was undeserved 'cuz Zimbeck was playing games in public, saying he was just licensed (lol) and distancing himself from the project.
Now Zimbeck is trying to pretend he didn't know what a low life bob was or he never woulda been involved. (Bonus lol. A guy that deep in crypto who doesn't know who bob is??? double bonus lol).
On top of that he says he is gonna shoulder onwards and ' deliver the tech'. problem is, the reason why bay fell apart is that david aims to "deliver the tech" to halo while living off his big ICO haul. he says himself that the only exclusive thing bay will get is pegging - everything else goes to Halo.
So at this point, alll five of those guys are clearly scammers, but only David is still pretending to have some honor ( another bonus lol.)sorry all u bay guys, you are bankrolling david's pivate halo project.
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forzendiablo
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December 12, 2014, 05:33:20 PM |
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If anyone wants to get involved with a coin that already has a working decentralised exchange soon to be anon with an i2p patch and 0 involvement of any P & D groups or scamartists come along to Syscoin. Get in now you'll make back what you lost here and much more.
Do you already have an eepsite? I'd like to look into this. Syscoin i2p patch is in the process of being tested and implemented. https://github.com/chipsc/syscoin-i2p-patchSYS has real devs who works for the project so i hold this coin yet so far only EXCL delivered a working market, centralized a bit but.. at least works 100% and coins price is only raising, nobody lost cash on EXCL. this are my 2 main long term coins that i buy and mine all the time with favor to EXCL at this point due to nice price |
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December 12, 2014, 05:33:41 PM |
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consider changing title to BagBay  sorry for those who invested tho.. such a huge and greedy ico could not end well |
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Bobsurplus
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December 12, 2014, 05:33:48 PM |
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for investors ... Bitbay continue with the original plan http://thebitbay.net/ -> ROADMAP
Bter has sent back all Bitbay ICO money to bitbay dev. Bter will not save or keep money for bitbay anymore.
and we will keep buying bitbay to support the price.
David zimbeck and our coders will keep developing hedging system and decentralized marketplace for Bitbay. what happened to BAY? so badly for the price. [size=pt25] HOW CAN ANYONE TRUST BTER.... THEY USED PHANTOM BTC TO BUY COINS FROM AND ICO THAT THEY WERE HOSTING AND HELPING TO DEV... HANLIN FOR BTER IS THE BIGGEST SCAMMER OF ALL... WHO CARES WHAT HE DID WITH THE COINS... HES SITE IS NOW TARNISHED AND HE WILL FOREVER BE THE DIRTY SCAMMY EXCHANGE..[/size] |
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EmilioMann
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December 12, 2014, 06:00:50 PM
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Seems this scam was all engineered by bter's CEO as ghostcoin too.
All the others involved were hired by him as freelancers.
Probably was his phantom BTCs which did the price of blocknet tokens dropped when the market was open.
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Bobsurplus
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December 12, 2014, 06:03:47 PM |
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Seems this scam was all engineered by bter's CEO as ghostcoin too.
All the others involved were hired by him as freelancers.
Probably was his phantom BTCS which made the price of blocknet tokens dropped when the market was open.
NOW SOMEONE IS THINKING.... THE REAL SCAMMER HER IS STEVEN DAI, DAVID ZIMBECK AND HANLIN THE OWNER OF BTER... |
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AlphaMale0007
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December 12, 2014, 06:12:33 PM |
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Seems this scam was all engineered by bter's CEO as ghostcoin too.
All the others involved were hired by him as freelancers.
Probably was his phantom BTCS which made the price of blocknet tokens dropped when the market was open.
NOW SOMEONE IS THINKING.... THE REAL SCAMMER HER IS STEVEN DAI, DAVID ZIMBECK AND HANLIN THE OWNER OF BTER... You are the only scammer here. Use the btc you scammed people on to buy some professional help. |
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Bobsurplus
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December 12, 2014, 06:13:27 PM |
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Seems this scam was all engineered by bter's CEO as ghostcoin too.
All the others involved were hired by him as freelancers.
Probably was his phantom BTCS which made the price of blocknet tokens dropped when the market was open.
NOW SOMEONE IS THINKING.... THE REAL SCAMMER HER IS STEVEN DAI, DAVID ZIMBECK AND HANLIN THE OWNER OF BTER... You are the only scammer here. Use the btc you scammed people on to buy some professional help. hate the player dont hate the game dude..... |
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December 12, 2014, 06:15:26 PM |
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Personally I don't think this is a scam. The Ico price was high but for those willing to wait a month, it is a good bet.
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# I am not part of the official StealthCoin Team. Just a community member.
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MrMeeSeek
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December 12, 2014, 06:17:29 PM |
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This fucking sucks. Bter, the dev and a pump group fucking all investors over
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December 12, 2014, 06:18:09 PM |
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Seems this scam was all engineered by bter's CEO as ghostcoin too.
All the others involved were hired by him as freelancers.
Probably was his phantom BTCS which made the price of blocknet tokens dropped when the market was open.
NOW SOMEONE IS THINKING.... THE REAL SCAMMER HER IS STEVEN DAI, DAVID ZIMBECK AND HANLIN THE OWNER OF BTER... You are the only scammer here. Use the btc you scammed people on to buy some professional help. hate the player dont hate the game dude..... You continually go from pointing fingers to admitting fault. So funny. Are you schitzo or does logic challenge you that much. |
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Decentradical
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December 12, 2014, 06:20:29 PM |
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What he's saying no longer really matters.
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December 12, 2014, 06:21:08 PM |
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About Bitbay dev: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=840972.msg9400690#msg9400690BitBay dev is the only official representative for bitbay! Bobsurplus has controlled the BitBay Team bitcointalk account and this thread(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=850267.0)! and he want to dump the price to 20sats and pump this to 100 sats again. that's the reason why he keep FUDs this. The most evil people we have ever met is Bobsurplus.But he has been kicked out from the team completely! No matter what happened, we will keep develop bitbay and maybe convert to bitbay2.0 in few days. we will not fear threaten and extortion from him. Here is some extortions evidence from him and he extort 1000BTC from bter. [13:30:42] cryptosteven: all bter's money has refund to bitbay dev. and we will keep buying bitbay. bitbay has nothing to do with bter anymore. and they will not Save money for bitbay team anymore. you are asking for 1000BTC from bter. it's a extortion. [13:35:39] International Rob: nahh [13:35:46] International Rob: i was offering to keep the story quiet [13:35:49] International Rob: now its too late Bter is an exchange platform, and they will not save any funds for BitBay anymore. BitBay dev is the only official representative for bitbay! David zimbeck and all our coders will keep develop hedging system and Decentralized marketplace. Here is our new ANN thread
Bitbay dev will not respond on any other thread anymore.That thread is garbage. They just delete post and stuff they don't like to make their case. Don't post on it. Just stay with this one. |
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December 12, 2014, 06:22:49 PM |
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Seems this scam was all engineered by bter's CEO as ghostcoin too.
All the others involved were hired by him as freelancers.
Probably was his phantom BTCS which did the price of blocknet tokens dropped when the market was open.
If BTER is truly in on this scam ... this needs to get out in the open to the news outlets. Run fast from that exchange! |
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