GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[bitpop]

Guys I reported Homero to American greed - scammers, swindlers and suckers

I suggest you do also

[drasted]

aaannnddd, the dumping commences again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lWJXDG2i0A#t=212

[popejubs]

I would say that people take it personally because they trace the causal links of their losing money directly to these quote fud unquote articles. Plus the us vs them mentality, which probably isn't that widespread on shareholder boards.

The fact that so many of the HT folk "take it personally because they trade the causal links of them losing money" to CF and CT reports is what is bizzare IMHO.

Consider an analogous situation .. suppose a blog like TechCrunch started publishing repeatedly bad stories about the new iPhone... detailing bugs, missteps, broken promises, etc. and that Apple's stock took a dive after the phone was released amidst all the bad PR.

Even if negative articles were wide read and quoted, I could not imagine an irate shareholder (even a total Apple fanboy) threatening to kill the author of the article.  In fact, since that kind of negative PR happens all the time, usually the response of an a shareholder who thinks that a company is being unfairly targeted by bad PR would be to view the dip in price as a huge buying opportunity... since eventually Apple would prove the naysayers wrong (in the fanboy's mind).  

So again, why the rabid dog attacks on a news blog?  If the poster really thought it unfair and untrue, they would be thanking CF and buying more XPY, waiting for Josh to prove everyone here wrong.  

The vitriol directed by those folks on HT against the discussion here is strange to me.  If its not a cult, I just don't understand what motivates such behaviors.

Fun experiment for you to try; go to one of those forums for "get rich quick with stock signals and technical trading" bullshit, and quote the studies showing that technical trading doesn't cover fees on average. Then come back here and let us know who was more vicious.

I have done this in meetings with so-called analysits.  Yes they are unperturbed, arrogant, poorly educated and angry at the questions .. I probably don't have many friends left who read Investors Business Daily lol ..but still no one has threatened violence for my insolence to date.

You say meetings; if that means in person, then people do tend to be more vicious when anonymous.

The causal link that I think people are drawing includes the supposed "dumpers", and they may blame the news articles and blogs for gaw dropping the $20 floor. However justified or not that is, it seems to me to be that belief which is pushing these actions.

In your example with Apple, nobody expects Apple to fail because of those kinds of articles; hell, even when Apple breaks the law they can afford the fines. http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/12/25/apple-fined-670000-in-taiwan-for-price-fixing/ (This is one of the smaller fines that they've gotten.)

There are people that genuinely believe that Gaw might fail now but wouldn't if not for these articles and related attitude. I mean, if paycoin was at $20 right now, Gaw would have a chance at pulling this all off without screwing anyone.

Is that a better job of tracing other people's minds?

Note: this is starting to get off-topic, so if you want to follow up on this, pm me.

Why do you continue defending someone who has admitted to allowing his investors to make financial decisions based on misconceptions the company they operate knew they could or should have corrected?

[ZiG]

aaannnddd, the dumping commences again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lWJXDG2i0A#t=212

Good dump ...oopss ...song...

Party time,

ZiG

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[clownius]

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At least he has a sense of humour

[ikeboy]

I would say that people take it personally because they trace the causal links of their losing money directly to these quote fud unquote articles. Plus the us vs them mentality, which probably isn't that widespread on shareholder boards.

The fact that so many of the HT folk "take it personally because they trade the causal links of them losing money" to CF and CT reports is what is bizzare IMHO.

Consider an analogous situation .. suppose a blog like TechCrunch started publishing repeatedly bad stories about the new iPhone... detailing bugs, missteps, broken promises, etc. and that Apple's stock took a dive after the phone was released amidst all the bad PR.

Even if negative articles were wide read and quoted, I could not imagine an irate shareholder (even a total Apple fanboy) threatening to kill the author of the article.  In fact, since that kind of negative PR happens all the time, usually the response of an a shareholder who thinks that a company is being unfairly targeted by bad PR would be to view the dip in price as a huge buying opportunity... since eventually Apple would prove the naysayers wrong (in the fanboy's mind).  

So again, why the rabid dog attacks on a news blog?  If the poster really thought it unfair and untrue, they would be thanking CF and buying more XPY, waiting for Josh to prove everyone here wrong.  

The vitriol directed by those folks on HT against the discussion here is strange to me.  If its not a cult, I just don't understand what motivates such behaviors.

Fun experiment for you to try; go to one of those forums for "get rich quick with stock signals and technical trading" bullshit, and quote the studies showing that technical trading doesn't cover fees on average. Then come back here and let us know who was more vicious.

I have done this in meetings with so-called analysits.  Yes they are unperturbed, arrogant, poorly educated and angry at the questions .. I probably don't have many friends left who read Investors Business Daily lol ..but still no one has threatened violence for my insolence to date.

You say meetings; if that means in person, then people do tend to be more vicious when anonymous.

The causal link that I think people are drawing includes the supposed "dumpers", and they may blame the news articles and blogs for gaw dropping the $20 floor. However justified or not that is, it seems to me to be that belief which is pushing these actions.

In your example with Apple, nobody expects Apple to fail because of those kinds of articles; hell, even when Apple breaks the law they can afford the fines. http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/12/25/apple-fined-670000-in-taiwan-for-price-fixing/ (This is one of the smaller fines that they've gotten.)

There are people that genuinely believe that Gaw might fail now but wouldn't if not for these articles and related attitude. I mean, if paycoin was at $20 right now, Gaw would have a chance at pulling this all off without screwing anyone.

Is that a better job of tracing other people's minds?

Note: this is starting to get off-topic, so if you want to follow up on this, pm me.

Why do you continue defending someone who has admitted to allowing his investors to make financial decisions based on misconceptions the company they operate knew they could or should have corrected?

I am not continuing to defend gaw. Look at the original context of this conversation. We were discussing the underlying psychology of people who are sticking with gaw.

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At least he has a sense of humour

I know. I hope he gets my message..

[ikeboy]

https://i.imgur.com/lXdUacb.png

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At least he has a sense of humour

I know. I hope he gets my message..

WE LOVE YOU BOB. GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE

[WaffleMaster]

LOLOLOL

[ikeboy]

https://hashtalk.org/topic/28500/restored-credit-card-purchasing

Dear Paycoin customers,

The credit purchasing feature is in the process of being turned back on.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.

Paybase

If this uses another company and it's also against the terms, they really deserve some kind of award.

[Unacceptable]

Hahahaha GAW having to pull the cc purchases is fking PRICELESS

Oh man I can't stop giggling. Yet another example of the incompetence of everybody at GAW. These are the morons that millions of people are supposed to trust with their money?

What. A. Joke.

The disgusting part is the spin. This was pointed out almost immediately. A question was asked in the HT announcement thread, jmordica proceeded to ignore it. How long does it take to read one sentence in the TOS that was shoved into your face? Not to mention that it should have been obvious BEFORE they even started this CC nonsense. How does one keep believing they are just making "mistakes"?

Now of course the trolls shall be blamed and CF shall be hacked, right?

Distrurbingly, not just hacked.  It seems some rabid religious zealot now wants to do bodily injury to CF.

THORN DESTROYER says
JANUARY 9, 2015 AT 1:45 AM

THE XPY ARMY IS GOING TO KILL YOU.

WE KNOW YOU LIVE IN INDIANA. YOU KEEP BEING A THORN IN OUR SIDE, YOU KEEP POSTING FUD.

WE KNOW YOUR ADDRESS, WE KNOW YOUR NAME, WE FOUND YOU ON SEVERAL DATABASES AND WE ARE GOING TO DISPATCH SOMEONE TO FUCKING KILL YOU ON FRIDAY OF NEXT WEEK.

WATCH YOUR FUCKING BACK.

attributed to Thorn Destroyer (see comments below main article): https://coinfire.cf/2015/01/09/xpy-purchasing-by-credit-card-disabled-by-stripe-for-tos-violation/

I was earlier thinking that the religious connection was unfair ground to tread on, but more and more it is seeming that GAW is being run by a radical religious sect.  Wtf.

Wow      Gonna go Muslim.........be sure to report them to authorities 

[WaffleMaster]

[drasted]

https://hashtalk.org/topic/28500/restored-credit-card-purchasing

Dear Paycoin customers,

The credit purchasing feature is in the process of being turned back on.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.

Paybase

If this uses another company and it's also against the terms, they really deserve some kind of award.

I wonder if they read the terms of service this time?

[KC6TTR]

They do take credit cards, but at least with some measure of verification:

http://leaserig.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/1000075203-credit-card-acceptance-and-payment-polices

Seems right now zero verification at Homero's operation, is that even legal?  How about that money business license is there one for him in Texas now or wherever you should have it for your operation.

The impression they continually create is like a kid trying to stick a cube in the cube hole struggling and struggling and finally does it. Here they been struggling and struggling to keep their promise of CC payments trying everything and everyone, and now they probably lied to stripe to get one, they so proud of themselves, they forgot the fundamental license and verifications.

Cause once it is raised it will be declared BETA and the CEO never said it was live yet.  However half backed is the MO, they will shut it down after stripe tells them to, claim that something else forced them to close it, trolls attacking it, redditors hacking it, any old excuse, but there after gloat, see we did as we promised, we did provide CC payments. All for a day. Like the 30 second ceiling nearly realized. See but we did do as we said we would, we did meet the ceiling. All of 30 seconds that lasted.

Same story different day.

We're in the MAJOR leagues now, ladies and germs. The second he and/or is coverts launched this extension of Paybase, the scheme fell under the direct jurisdiction of the US FinCEN per 31 CFR 1010.100(t) (formerly 31 CFR 103.11(n)). Adding his 10% "convenience" fee is just icing on the cake. Expect things to happen much faster now.

Ref:
http://www.fincen.gov/financial_institutions/msb/definitions/msb.html
http://www.fincen.gov/financial_institutions/msb/definitions/person.html
http://www.fincen.gov/financial_institutions/msb/definitions/fin_ins.html

[PhiPhi]

https://hashtalk.org/topic/28500/

@GAWCEO Restored Credit Card Purchasing
Dear Paycoin customers,

The credit purchasing feature is in the process of being turned back on.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.

Paybase

Well Josh is hiding behind the generic Paybase sig for his ANN's but he can't even get that right.

[ikeboy]

https://i.imgur.com/qvS2ER0.png

Wonder how much immunity ninjas have.

[bitcoinnoisseur]

I thought Josh said he was not behind Team Paycoin. They have their own group and badge now on HT. https://hashtalk.org/groups/Team%20PayCoin

[DARKANGEL6415]

"Project Prime. Take the power away from hardware companies. And give it to the people"   By cancelling their volcano, bitmain cancelling l1, and zeus cancelling their upgrades etc - fuck off you did anything for the people.  All 3 of you hardware companies are with holding tech.

Scrypt mining dried up so damn fast, I don't blame Zeus and Bitmain cancelling those items since they were doomed from the start (sucks for those of us who spent the money, but we got it back, right?).

The only HW that is still innovating right now? SHA-256 aka Bitcoin. Josh wasn't a dumbshite for picking AES-256 as the algorithm for his clone coin.
 

i am pretty sure if Josh can escape the metal bracelets around his wrist and anckels he might come up with some better idea. I say thought coin " patent pending " will be able to mine it with your brain power. Everyone the same age will get same hashing power so noone has any advantage over anyone. Only difference will come from age will increase or decrease but will  still be same as everyone in same age group. I say with a ground of $500 per thought coin will be good  

[DARKANGEL6415]

I must admit I have learnt a lot from this thread, thank you to all positive contributors.

I joined GAW because someone said they made fast ROI so immediately i sent loads of money.

I only saw the chimp in action after I had invested but now I ROIed and still have junk in there leave it for their database to keep making me XPY.

Had i lost money on this I would be kicking myself, especially with all the red flags that kept being waved.

At present, non-withstanding this being a scam or not, I would never give a penny to a company run this way, even if they were digging for gold. They are kids they should probably start thinking of doing someone more "productive" with their lives.

The value proposition of a coin that can be used to buy stuff from the internet has been pounded to the ground and is already available in so many variations. The kid has nothing to sell, anyone coming new to this I suggest they just turn around, there is nothing interesting on this show. They will end up just taking money from each other and trading XPY in a closed circle.

all i got to say is you got so lucky