GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[Subtuppel]

Lendcoin is @2.00 floor

XPY steadily approaching the long awaited $ 0.02 "floor". A breathtaking 706 USD volume today for the coining that changed the world.

[mgibson38]

Dave01, scamiam, and other retards/shills...the time is right for some apologies I think. Its plainly obvious that you all sucked the wrong brilliant cock, as it actually belonged to a moron and a now proven scammer. The last shred of hope you guys had was the 'fake' investigation which is now clearly real (as if there was even any doubt). Either come out, admit you're wrong, and try to help prevent fraud like this from occurring in crypto circles from now on, or just put guns in your mouths and pull the trigger. Do everybody a favour.

[foodstamps]

Dave01, scamiam, and other retards/shills...the time is right for some apologies I think. Its plainly obvious that you all sucked the wrong brilliant cock, as it actually belonged to a moron and a now proven scammer. The last shred of hope you guys had was the 'fake' investigation which is now clearly real (as if there was even any doubt). Either come out, admit you're wrong, and try to help prevent fraud like this from occurring in crypto circles from now on, or just put guns in your mouths and pull the trigger. Do everybody a favour.

There is no need to be so harsh. They made mistakes, they picked the wrong horse, that just proves their intelligence(or lack thereof). It happens all the time in crypto. People often promote/shill for companies up until they finally realize the company was a scam.   

[owlcatz]

Dave01, scamiam, and other retards/shills...the time is right for some apologies I think. Its plainly obvious that you all sucked the wrong brilliant cock, as it actually belonged to a moron and a now proven scammer. The last shred of hope you guys had was the 'fake' investigation which is now clearly real (as if there was even any doubt). Either come out, admit you're wrong, and try to help prevent fraud like this from occurring in crypto circles from now on, or just put guns in your mouths and pull the trigger. Do everybody a favour.

There is no need to be so harsh. They made mistakes, they picked the wrong horse, that just proves their intelligence(or lack thereof). It happens all the time in crypto. People often promote/shill for companies up until they finally realize the company was a scam.   

I agree, but I can see how so many got burned, and can accept their anger I guess. makes me glad I'm not rich or famous actually. Life is not about money, it's about so much more.

[btccashacc]

any 1 know when i can withdraw my Bitcoin ? or when ghs running again ?
i have more Ghs but only some bitcoin

[KC6TTR]

Volder started questioning Joshs motives pretty early on. He made multiple posts on hashtalk asking questions thaqt everyone wanted to know. So much to the point his account got banned or shadowed at least once.

Volder was a true supporter until at least mid-December, 2014. Although I have no ill feelings towards him, he was warned of what to expect as early as late July/early August of 2014 and chose to stick with it.

Scott-

[suchmoon]

any 1 know when i can withdraw my Bitcoin ? or when ghs running again ?

Wrong thread buddy. There is no GHS or withdrawals here. Only a boring wait for a court case.

[o0o0]

Volder started questioning Joshs motives pretty early on. He made multiple posts on hashtalk asking questions thaqt everyone wanted to know. So much to the point his account got banned or shadowed at least once.

Volder was a true supporter until at least mid-December, 2014. Although I have no ill feelings towards him, he was warned of what to expect as early as late July/early August of 2014 and chose to stick with it.

Scott-

Scott, and not only did he stick with it he denounced those with valid points as being fudders. Volder actually if he had any shred of human decency should do a public apology on his feeds to set it straight just as equally as he promoted it through his feeds. At least bitjane had some sort of decency to come clean volder won't swallow the pride.

Don't get me wrong I think Bitjane should hold some degree of punishment here as she "WAS" paid to do the editing and mod stuff so is part of this scheme. I don't believe a harsh punishment is warranted but she deserves something to put her in line other than a I admit I was wrong. Its fine if you are unpaid but when you are paid you are part of it good and bad.

[dave01]

Dave01, scamiam, and other retards/shills...the time is right for some apologies I think. Its plainly obvious that you all sucked the wrong brilliant cock, as it actually belonged to a moron and a now proven scammer. The last shred of hope you guys had was the 'fake' investigation which is now clearly real (as if there was even any doubt). Either come out, admit you're wrong, and try to help prevent fraud like this from occurring in crypto circles from now on, or just put guns in your mouths and pull the trigger. Do everybody a favour.

its not a fraud or a scam its a scamception have you not been listening?

[truckinusa]

I wonder who actually had control of the bitcoin and paycoin wallets during the debut of paycoin and was doing the dumping on cryptsy and bittrex?  It had to be someone smarter than Josh.  I remember him bragging he had his bots ready.  I wonder who taught him how to use them?  The way he talked about it, it was like he got a new toy or something.  I will eagerly wait for the revelations that come out of these investigations. 

[favdesu]

I wonder who actually had control of the bitcoin and paycoin wallets during the debut of paycoin and was doing the dumping on cryptsy and bittrex?  It had to be someone smarter than Josh.  I remember him bragging he had his bots ready.  I wonder who taught him how to use them?  The way he talked about it, it was like he got a new toy or something.  I will eagerly wait for the revelations that come out of these investigations. 

I bet it was... what was the name of their Tech guy who went rogue at one point? Mordica?

[owlcatz]

I wonder who actually had control of the bitcoin and paycoin wallets during the debut of paycoin and was doing the dumping on cryptsy and bittrex?  It had to be someone smarter than Josh.  I remember him bragging he had his bots ready.  I wonder who taught him how to use them?  The way he talked about it, it was like he got a new toy or something.  I will eagerly wait for the revelations that come out of these investigations.  

Man, we are going way back now ....

Here is one of many of Josh's withdrawals from cryptsy courtesy of PR, no idea if anyone else was "assisting" him, but let's face it, it doesn't take a true genius to turn imaginary money into BTC:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg11100172#msg11100172

Edit - here is the txid from that particular withdrawal.

https://blockchain.info/tx/b2c3c1a8926be4f58ddc81b86ab1b8ff792b9d065dd86426d88b47846359d016

[Phildo]

I wonder who actually had control of the bitcoin and paycoin wallets during the debut of paycoin and was doing the dumping on cryptsy and bittrex?  It had to be someone smarter than Josh.  I remember him bragging he had his bots ready.  I wonder who taught him how to use them?  The way he talked about it, it was like he got a new toy or something.  I will eagerly wait for the revelations that come out of these investigations. 

Still not sure why people are assuming Josh is stupid? His plan was to rob people, he did that.

Even if he was stupid, how much smarts does it take to sell something that cost you zero for whatever he dumped paycoins for?

[PCComf]

I wonder who actually had control of the bitcoin and paycoin wallets during the debut of paycoin and was doing the dumping on cryptsy and bittrex?  It had to be someone smarter than Josh.  I remember him bragging he had his bots ready.  I wonder who taught him how to use them?  The way he talked about it, it was like he got a new toy or something.  I will eagerly wait for the revelations that come out of these investigations. 

Still not sure why people are assuming Josh is stupid? His plan was to rob people, he did that.

Even if he was stupid, how much smarts does it take to sell something that cost you zero for whatever he dumped paycoins for?

If he was smart the scam would have drawn out much longer and he would have had more years before being put behind bars.

[bitpop]

Homero actually said he had no clue how to even send paycoin

[Paul Revere]

Homero actually said he had no clue how to even send paycoin

Yep, sure did, and is one of the few things that lying sack of dung has said that comes off as truthful. Something else to remember is that it was not just the exchange bots that Homero was talking about, it was the mixing bots taking premine and obfuscating the origin (poorly) of coins so they could be dumped that were at the heart of the scam from a technical perspective. Those mixing bots never missed a beat during the supposed thefts,hacks,change of ownership, etc. The same people who ran them in December are still running them today, they have never stopped. I have made it clear many times that I do not buy the BS stories put forth by the various packs of crooks who are supposedly "Not Homero". As far as what has been actually taking place on the XPY Blockchain, there was no change of ownership at all.

[Phildo]

I wonder who actually had control of the bitcoin and paycoin wallets during the debut of paycoin and was doing the dumping on cryptsy and bittrex?  It had to be someone smarter than Josh.  I remember him bragging he had his bots ready.  I wonder who taught him how to use them?  The way he talked about it, it was like he got a new toy or something.  I will eagerly wait for the revelations that come out of these investigations. 

Still not sure why people are assuming Josh is stupid? His plan was to rob people, he did that.

Even if he was stupid, how much smarts does it take to sell something that cost you zero for whatever he dumped paycoins for?

If he was smart the scam would have drawn out much longer and he would have had more years before being put behind bars.

This scam could not last that long. There was nothing to it, people that fell for it don't have enough money for a long term scam. The fact that he was able to spin the cloud mining scam into a new coin scam is amazing to me.

[foodstamps]

I wonder who actually had control of the bitcoin and paycoin wallets during the debut of paycoin and was doing the dumping on cryptsy and bittrex?  It had to be someone smarter than Josh.  I remember him bragging he had his bots ready.  I wonder who taught him how to use them?  The way he talked about it, it was like he got a new toy or something.  I will eagerly wait for the revelations that come out of these investigations. 

Still not sure why people are assuming Josh is stupid? His plan was to rob people, he did that.

Even if he was stupid, how much smarts does it take to sell something that cost you zero for whatever he dumped paycoins for?

If he was smart the scam would have drawn out much longer and he would have had more years before being put behind bars.

This scam could not last that long. There was nothing to it, people that fell for it don't have enough money for a long term scam. The fact that he was able to spin the cloud mining scam into a new coin scam is amazing to me.

He made it last much longer than when thinking back I should have expected. You can only hide behind the word "soon"  for so long before "soon" is obviously not on the horizon.

[PCComf]

I wonder who actually had control of the bitcoin and paycoin wallets during the debut of paycoin and was doing the dumping on cryptsy and bittrex?  It had to be someone smarter than Josh.  I remember him bragging he had his bots ready.  I wonder who taught him how to use them?  The way he talked about it, it was like he got a new toy or something.  I will eagerly wait for the revelations that come out of these investigations. 

Still not sure why people are assuming Josh is stupid? His plan was to rob people, he did that.

Even if he was stupid, how much smarts does it take to sell something that cost you zero for whatever he dumped paycoins for?

If he was smart the scam would have drawn out much longer and he would have had more years before being put behind bars.

This scam could not last that long. There was nothing to it, people that fell for it don't have enough money for a long term scam. The fact that he was able to spin the cloud mining scam into a new coin scam is amazing to me.

Exactly. A smarter person would have run the scam differently and certainly wouldn't have promised such huge returns on investment in such a short amount of time.
The spin you mention had more to do with charisma than smarts, although I don't get the charisma part either personally, but somehow it worked for him. He did have a knack for hyping up the minions into a frenzy. For a relatively small investment he could probably still get some people to hand him money for pixels even today.

[sirazimuth]

As a long time lurker on this thread, (started reading pretty much on the day it was created I think) just for shitz n'giggles I decided to browse way back to to the earlier 1st 300 or so posts in the original thread.It is a truly fascinating read to see how this protracted scam played out and unfolded over this past year.The fact it lasted this long never ceases to amaze me. And in the context of knowing what is known now, some of the old comments are priceless.I now sometimes wonder if not for this thread,the data dump leak,and the great investigative work done by Paul Revere,Suchmoon to name a few, how much longer it could have gone on and how many more "suckers" (thats being polite) could have been ruined financially.The sheer credulity of some of those hashtalkers was mind boggling.Many greedy naive youngsters there,no doubt. Homero knew that much.
Those familiar cliches , "you can't make this shit up",or "when is the movie comin out?" etc, are well worth repeating, because in this case,they are entirely appropriate.
And on top of all that the daily read of the forum was/is always good for laugh or 2.
  Now hopfully in the final chapter of this  slow train wreck, we will see justice served on all those responsible. That would be a fitting end indeed, tho I get the feeling this chapter is going to be long and  drawn out just like the scam was/is. Can't wait for the homero mug shot meme. That oughta be good for a chuckle or 2 too.
 
Heres to one of the best threads on Bitcointalk. thanx Suchmoon and to all who contribute intelligently. Its good to see rationality in an ocean of ignorance and greed called crypto.