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I'm not concerned with anyone's mental state... for now. It seems though I can't seem to find people willing to give me the wallet or transactions the XPY-ION people used to burn the XPY when it was traded in to do the burn. I mentioned on the ION thread. Is there anyone that traded in their XPY/PrimeC gear for ION/MasterNodes gear? I would like to know what the ratio of the trade in/over was.
8 xpy : 1 iON, and the iONs were locked in stakers, I think 3, 6 or 12 month stakers, correct me if I am wrong. 12 month stakers were almost sold out instantly I remember. There was no direct PC to MN transfer if you mean that. In fact, because of the different dev teams, I think most customer PC coins had been previously transferred to the platform. So, the current situation is that all iONs traded / swapped are locked in stakers. 8to1 good to know. Locked into stakers cool. That's good to hear no PC to MN transfer. Do you know where the transactions of this are on the XPY explorer? I realize this is a little difficult to narrow in on. I'm curious if the ION team traded in coins that were artificially made through the abuse of PC keys. It was done twice, that I know of. Once at the beginning with Joe Mordica and Josh Garza. The "test coins" incident. They also tried to falsify the deletion of them. Deleting some and washing a majority of them into other wallets/PCs overtime.Second time was with Carmelo Milian (BTClend/Lendcoin - remember him? ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) ) somehow ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) exploited a PC key and produced coins at a higher rate than other PCs. To his credit though Adam took the key away. Didn't see what became of the BTClend PC and the coins. I'm sure all of was properly destroyed and well documented. I'm very curious now how much XPY was exchanged for ION. I know many people don't care about this item. I get it. It matters to me though as I was in Hashtalk where JG issued Hashpoints (yep social points for participation in the forum). Later, HPs converted to XPY when it was made. XPY was then ruined by artificial creation by those two instances that I know about. I do want to confirm where those artificial coins ended up though, but not ruin a weekend of looking through chains. While this took a couple years. Even the thought of creating not only artificial wealth from air is one thing. Its another to use communities collaboration points into a coin. Folding it over and over into other coins. Resolving the last coins debts/debtors. This concerns me. Any XPY holders still watching here. Please PM me with the wallet/tx for when you gave the ION team your XPY for the agreement into XPYbits (I think it was called). Time to go sit in traffic now...
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May 13, 2016, 10:09:24 PM |
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I know many people don't care about this item. I get it. It matters to me though as I was in Hashtalk where JG issued Hashpoints (yep social points for participation in the forum). Later, HPs converted to XPY when it was made. XPY was then ruined by artificial creation by those two instances that I know about. I do want to confirm where those artificial coins ended up though, but not ruin a weekend of looking through chains.
While this took a couple years. Even the thought of creating not only artificial wealth from air is one thing. Its another to use communities collaboration points into a coin. Folding it over and over into other coins. Resolving the last coins debts/debtors. This concerns me.
Any XPY holders still watching here. Please PM me with the wallet/tx for when you gave the ION team your XPY for the agreement into XPYbits (I think it was called). Time to go sit in traffic now...
The XPY was "converted" to ION on xpy.io, i.e. off chain. I doubt you'll find TX IDs for that. And I'm probably misunderstanding this statement: "XPY was then ruined by artificial creation by those two instances that I know about." but that doesn't sound right. XPY was "ruined" by being a 97% premined coin with centralized supply designed for dumping and massive inflation. Whichever pack of crooks did the inflating and the dumping doesn't really matter much for the end result, does it? ION is much the same, just slightly improved: 100% premine.
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May 13, 2016, 11:25:56 PM |
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I know many people don't care about this item. I get it. It matters to me though as I was in Hashtalk where JG issued Hashpoints (yep social points for participation in the forum). Later, HPs converted to XPY when it was made. XPY was then ruined by artificial creation by those two instances that I know about. I do want to confirm where those artificial coins ended up though, but not ruin a weekend of looking through chains.
While this took a couple years. Even the thought of creating not only artificial wealth from air is one thing. Its another to use communities collaboration points into a coin. Folding it over and over into other coins. Resolving the last coins debts/debtors. This concerns me.
Any XPY holders still watching here. Please PM me with the wallet/tx for when you gave the ION team your XPY for the agreement into XPYbits (I think it was called). Time to go sit in traffic now...
The XPY was "converted" to ION on xpy.io, i.e. off chain. I doubt you'll find TX IDs for that. And I'm probably misunderstanding this statement: "XPY was then ruined by artificial creation by those two instances that I know about." but that doesn't sound right. XPY was "ruined" by being a 97% premined coin with centralized supply designed for dumping and massive inflation. Whichever pack of crooks did the inflating and the dumping doesn't really matter much for the end result, does it? ION is much the same, just slightly improved: 100% premine. Got it. It was folded by humans into the XPY.io project. So they in turn absorbed all its failures and then retired said coins, with the promise into ION. Yep, I agree with you on the premined and centralized supply design. I wanted to track those two instances to see the impact they caused as a whole to the coin though before it was folded into ION. This is why I enjoy open conversations like this. A lot of these type of operators rely on hiding content maybe only a few know about and never mention. We all get to learn, some faster than others, about the hard truths about not only making a coin concept but also operate it.
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May 13, 2016, 11:49:20 PM |
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May 14, 2016, 12:32:22 AM |
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i1LoLBnzuLGjzvBgze2Wi72x1qXsWVQvE7 8h7SXworZgNGzb6FaaurMP8S6jdJNNRQuJow46PhXoAjZc8Db5k
i1LoLzdMHK6tesRDVpZXYhbLGZUG8D5c87 8gbZwgV7STaLtVCyBD6Gfk8JZGxiGaCUGB9qfBvGc4hDiu9Sr3o
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i1LoLVNshAZS9CBARVMGwpVB71YeZdcFow 8i3vcof9HM2jPpgZmurWGtBWKe6vbfR2Y76kZVy3BR1QSLCCNhV Help me understand this. Do they somehow show the conversion over from XPY?
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May 14, 2016, 12:59:11 AM |
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Help me understand this. Do they somehow show the conversion over from XPY?
They don't. Live net isn't even live yet. Boki aka panda just ran vanitygen or some such tool. If you want to preserve your sanity I'd suggest to put him/her on ignore or treat as a small child.
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May 14, 2016, 01:23:04 AM |
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Help me understand this. Do they somehow show the conversion over from XPY?
They don't. Live net isn't even live yet. Boki aka panda just ran vanitygen or some such tool. If you want to preserve your sanity I'd suggest to put him/her on ignore or treat as a small child. Your ramps only continue and continue, .... . I respected you and I still respect you for that that you came over after somebody did threat you in very bad way. We all are after this person and the reason I respect you is almost the same why I asked to let people speak insted to harrasing or anything else. I am very, very dissapointed of you. You ask somebody to come to talk then you only bash and bash including your friends, this is even worse than childish. BTW, some say 9 trolls, this is not true and we can see it, it's just you and until now 2 others (NG troll doesnt count). This means people are wrong and other 7 cool (where actually everybody of you is cool) guys are worth for me to keep posting here. If you really want to continue your ramps, answer at least one of the questions during these ramps as you keep some unanswered. Like stated before, you had your nightmare, it's not worth to talk about it and for sure not something that I wish. I do not know why do you write him/her as you know that I am opposite gender of you, but of which importance is it?
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May 14, 2016, 01:30:10 AM |
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Help me understand this. Do they somehow show the conversion over from XPY?
They don't. Live net isn't even live yet. Boki aka panda just ran vanitygen or some such tool. If you want to preserve your sanity I'd suggest to put him/her on ignore or treat as a small child. Your ramps only continue and continue, .... . I respected you and I still respect you for that that you came over after somebody did threat you in very bad way. We all are after this person and the reason I respect you is almost the same why I asked to let people speak insted to harrasing or anything else. I am very, very dissapointed of you. You ask somebody to come to talk then you only bash and bash including your friends, this is even worse than childish. BTW, some say 9 trolls, this is not true and we can see it, it's just you and until now 2 others (NG troll doesnt count). This means people are wrong and other 7 cool (where actually everybody of you is cool) guys are worth for me to keep posting here. If you really want to continue your ramps, answer at least one of the questions during these ramps as you keep some unanswered. Like stated before, you had your nightmare, it's not worth to talk about it and for sure not something that I wish. I do not know why do you write him/her as you know that I am opposite gender of you, but of which importance is it? Not taking sides here, but "ramps?" Really? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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May 14, 2016, 01:34:38 AM |
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May 14, 2016, 01:35:58 AM |
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I know you know it, I really love you sometimes ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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May 14, 2016, 01:38:15 AM |
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I know you know it, I really love you sometimes ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) COMMON GROUND on BCT!!!!(Don't blink! ....oh S#!T, it's gone.)
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May 14, 2016, 01:55:02 AM |
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I know you know it, I really love you sometimes ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) COMMON GROUND on BCT!!!!(Don't blink! ....oh S#!T, it's gone.) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FElcQQXS.gif&t=665&c=HCySnVhW3-y67w)
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May 14, 2016, 02:03:52 AM |
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I know you know it, I really love you sometimes ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) COMMON GROUND on BCT!!!!(Don't blink! ....oh S#!T, it's gone.) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlbLF9Vs.jpg%3F1&t=665&c=o1px-paQZheckQ)
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May 14, 2016, 02:17:43 AM |
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I know you know it, I really love you sometimes ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) COMMON GROUND on BCT!!!!(Don't blink! ....oh S#!T, it's gone.) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlbLF9Vs.jpg%3F1&t=665&c=o1px-paQZheckQ) Come together, right now...over me. ---The Walrus
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May 14, 2016, 05:08:22 PM |
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well king stinky probably just saw an uptick in her website traffic no doubt. and i just got ramp educated. win win... thanx bro! (sorry off topic) patiently waiting for the quote "faggot ganza" (not my words) jail term and ensuing celebration that will inevitably break out here, but not holding my breath congrats on promotion btw. I enjoy your commentary. I do miss the dude on the horse tho. You guys were like the good cop, bad cop thing ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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May 15, 2016, 01:31:49 AM |
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well king stinky probably just saw an uptick in her website traffic no doubt. and i just got ramp educated. win win... thanx bro! (sorry off topic) patiently waiting for the quote "faggot ganza" (not my words) jail term and ensuing celebration that will inevitably break out here, but not holding my breath congrats on promotion btw. I enjoy your commentary. I do miss the dude on the horse tho. You guys were like the good cop, bad cop thing ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) TYVM. I have a feeling "the dude on the horse" might be lurking around under a different name and with less artwork. Those BitStone idiots put his family at risk.
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May 15, 2016, 04:12:43 AM |
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well king stinky probably just saw an uptick in her website traffic no doubt. and i just got ramp educated. win win... thanx bro! (sorry off topic) patiently waiting for the quote "faggot ganza" (not my words) jail term and ensuing celebration that will inevitably break out here, but not holding my breath congrats on promotion btw. I enjoy your commentary. I do miss the dude on the horse tho. You guys were like the good cop, bad cop thing ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) TYVM. I have a feeling "the dude on the horse" might be lurking around under a different name and with less artwork. Those BitStone idiots put his family at risk. ? what did i miss did the bitstone tards dox pauls family and send threats? i miss pauls pictures ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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May 15, 2016, 05:32:24 AM |
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? what did i miss did the bitstone tards dox pauls family and send threats? i miss pauls pictures ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) They tried to. To my knowledge the attempt did not succeed because they paid for the dox and got sold a fake but I can see why one wouldn't want to take the risk with idiots like that. Even if it is to protect some unrelated person from getting dead bunnies in the mail.
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? what did i miss did the bitstone tards dox pauls family and send threats? i miss pauls pictures ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) They tried to. To my knowledge the attempt did not succeed because they paid for the dox and got sold a fake but I can see why one wouldn't want to take the risk with idiots like that. Even if it is to protect some unrelated person from getting dead bunnies in the mail. Depends if you like rabbit stew or not i guess ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I love how the ex gaw investors never denounced the dead rabbits in the mail. They attack the fudders but don't keep their own in check ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I guess its the only outcome when someone calls your project shit... don't prove them wrong just pay to get their details to threaten them etc hah. When crypto finally gets regulated or at least criminal prosecutions theirs going to be a lot of full jails.
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