erwin45hacked
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January 20, 2015, 02:22:35 PM |
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hey guys, check out the poll at weeklyponzi site, OP making a pool to let us vote which one to keep, 24h or weekly, vote for weekly, you got better chance to survive,
todays 24hour game only paid for those below 9 seconds transaction, vote wisely !
PS : id like another vote of he to atleast paid the missing funds or refunds us without the 30% bonus
what do you think should be different on weekly ponzi ? maybe instead 9 sec will be 15 sec ..... well with weekly u can have so much time actually, week#2 dropped because of the missing funds, if there is no missing funds, people with 2hours transaction after 00.00 will already got paid by now, that would be including me hope OP sorts this out soon
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P2PHash
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January 20, 2015, 03:25:57 PM |
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The weekly will be exactly the same as the daily ones. What's the point of having a week? People don't invest after the first round of payments anyway...
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ik_do
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January 20, 2015, 03:26:55 PM |
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[...]Not only that releasing the address beforehand is stupid; the rough time of the game should be announced (+/- random 10 minutes) and whoever is lucky enough to get the address first can deposit the soonest. That will always be the bots. A bot can process the contents of a webpage, extract the address, and initiate payments to that address before you've even registered that there's a new address on the page. While I do believe that this is ultimately doomed to fail, the existing setup does allows human players a chance to get at least one "bet" in before it's too late. I'm not running any scripts or bots and I was the 12th payout for Day #3; my "bet" was received at 00:00:01. The fact that the time is fixed and the address is fixed puts bots and humans on equal footing for the first deposit. A bot would have an advantage to a human playing with a single wallet for the 2nd deposit done in the game. If you vary the time and/or vary the address you take away any advantage the human has and give bots a huge advantage. It is easy for code to cope with both of those issues. A bot can even use multiple IP's to watch the websites. Only the fact that all information is know gives human players a chance. I doubt there are actually any bots being used. I've written bots before and it isn't worth writing a bot for this. There are just too many ways to shoot yourself in the foot. What you are seeing is people watching the clock and hitting the "ok" button when they see it is time to play. A few dozen humans doing that looks just the same as a bunch of bots. It still doesn't change the fact that you either play in the first few minutes or you lose (which makes 99% of the game pointless) Given that it isn't even a calculated risk (because it is impossible to determine how many people will enter, how much they will 'invest' or whether the site will crash midway) the chances are no better or worse than just blindly rolling at a dice site. Yes, you can basically only win or lose with weeklyponzi, but if you just want a 30% payout you can roll at 60% on any dice website and get an instant result--there is no lottery or comeback if you lose which means no one is going to be stupid enough to put money in after 3 minutes (out of a week) have passed. IMHO, its really nice to have (what seems like) an operator who runs the website fairly (at least that is how the blockchain looks), but for just 30% this whole concept is pointless.
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brizio71
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Blockchain Just Entered The Real World
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January 20, 2015, 03:38:34 PM |
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The weekly will be exactly the same as the daily ones. What's the point of having a week? People don't invest after the first round of payments anyway...
I agree
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erwin45hacked
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January 20, 2015, 04:06:52 PM |
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i dunno if anyone interested in this anymore but
19V7CxY3tcvQ3nmov8w73RWMEqQB6PyJQ2
take a look at that, today 1weekly address payout 1.3 to that address and guess what, that address only made 3 deposit and all 3 have already been paid out, hope OP read this
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everlast25
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January 20, 2015, 04:45:52 PM Last edit: January 20, 2015, 05:34:35 PM by everlast25 |
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And as I said previously, the volume of day#3 was around 70 BTC.
Pretty sure that today's game will be more or less with that volume.
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January 20, 2015, 05:38:39 PM |
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Remember this guy lost 62.11 BTC and don't want to help with the fee he made from last week and this week (about the same amount in btc). https://i.imgur.com/laRgt82.jpg On Twitter he now says that the Blockchain's API was having problems, but he did say that he had to correct his script. Why correct his script if it was working? Obviously Blockchain's API is fine, it's handling millions of $ everyday... It's been solved?
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pandacoin
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January 20, 2015, 05:44:00 PM |
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So 11 days passed. Did everybody get paid? Are you still happy with the site?
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mellinne3267
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January 20, 2015, 06:11:10 PM |
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Remember this guy lost 62.11 BTC and don't want to help with the fee he made from last week and this week (about the same amount in btc). https://i.imgur.com/laRgt82.jpg On Twitter he now says that the Blockchain's API was having problems, but he did say that he had to correct his script. Why correct his script if it was working? Obviously Blockchain's API is fine, it's handling millions of $ everyday... It's been solved? Has not been completely solved yet is missing 23 BTC to be returned to weekly.
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GayEddie
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January 20, 2015, 07:54:19 PM |
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Wouldnt bother with 24 hour game Day#2 I put small amount in with 16 hours left had nothing back
Tried weekly 6 days left in week #2 deposited two deposits 3 days left and nothing yet
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ShrykeZ
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January 20, 2015, 08:07:49 PM |
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Wouldnt bother with 24 hour game Day#2 I put small amount in with 16 hours left had nothing back
Tried weekly 6 days left in week #2 deposited two deposits 3 days left and nothing yet
It's still early for the weekly and it could go through at least 1 full cycle I would expect.
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tom14cat14
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January 20, 2015, 08:18:27 PM |
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Wouldnt bother with 24 hour game Day#2 I put small amount in with 16 hours left had nothing back
Tried weekly 6 days left in week #2 deposited two deposits 3 days left and nothing yet
It's still early for the weekly and it could go through at least 1 full cycle I would expect. People would have to promote the weekly one. And the OP needs to add some incentive to use it. I doubt either will happen. Right now everyone is focused on trying to be in the first few seconds of the 24 hour game.
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tom14cat14
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January 20, 2015, 08:24:25 PM |
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Remember that this weeks weekly game was derailed by an issue with deposits and 24 hours of downtime. The previous week made it through a few times. Yes the game only lasts about 24 hours but it is much better then 9 seconds.
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entertainment
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January 20, 2015, 08:32:01 PM |
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Most of people here don't know how a Ponzi scheme work. Read before, later gamble your money if you want. http://24hourponzi.com/ is working smoothly
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Fargo
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January 20, 2015, 09:11:24 PM |
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Most of people here don't know how a Ponzi scheme work. Read before, later gamble your money if you want. http://24hourponzi.com/ is working smoothly Meanwhile on weeklyponzi like 200 people are going to lose btc. I think he should reset it for the sake of all the downtime.... I mean theres no downside to adding more time.
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January 20, 2015, 09:32:09 PM |
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Wouldnt bother with 24 hour game Day#2 I put small amount in with 16 hours left had nothing back
Tried weekly 6 days left in week #2 deposited two deposits 3 days left and nothing yet
It's still early for the weekly and it could go through at least 1 full cycle I would expect. People would have to promote the weekly one. And the OP needs to add some incentive to use it. I doubt either will happen. Right now everyone is focused on trying to be in the first few seconds of the 24 hour game. The week #2 one was killed by bugs and the game going offline on day #2. The week #1 game had a lot of action on day #2 and nothing after that.
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January 20, 2015, 09:35:12 PM |
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I believe there is one thing OP can do to incentivize people to continue re-investing during the round.
Currently, he starts the payouts approximately 15-20 mins after the first deposit. This means people have already deposited 70 BTC, and the people who are paid out do not want to re-invest as there is already 70 BTC.
BUT, if the payments were instant like the Fees this might change. OP is instantly transferring the fees to his fee address, but payouts wait 20 mins. Making the payments also instant would give people who are paid to reinvest and therefore the active duration of the round would be much longer.
Just a thought...
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January 20, 2015, 09:42:04 PM |
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And a small note about the Winner/Loser ratio: For the last round: 78 people deposited 51 paid-out 27 lost So 65% are winners, last 35% losers. Another thing to look at it is the distribution of deposits for both losers and winners. This would give more info. But don't have time for that
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mellinne3267
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January 20, 2015, 09:43:16 PM |
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I believe there is one thing OP can do to incentivize people to continue re-investing during the round.
Currently, he starts the payouts approximately 15-20 mins after the first deposit. This means people have already deposited 70 BTC, and the people who are paid out do not want to re-invest as there is already 70 BTC.
BUT, if the payments were instant like the Fees this might change. OP is instantly transferring the fees to his fee address, but payouts wait 20 mins. Making the payments also instant would give people who are paid to reinvest and therefore the active duration of the round would be much longer.
Just a thought...
What happens and that due to the absurd number of deposits in the first 5 seconds just catching the script and he often has to manually do all of them. The problem is that we only see some whales pouring with bots at the beginning of the round. Even if the payments are instant they're going to not reinvest that won. This and the problem 24 hours, the weekly had 2 to 3 days volume of deposits and the chance to win something all. While insisting to continue maintaining the 24 hours and it's going to happen and I can say that soon the volume will increasingly diminish, because if your deposit delay 4 seconds possibly you will not receive anything, and are just wasting money in this game.
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mrhank
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January 20, 2015, 09:49:15 PM |
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I believe there is one thing OP can do to incentivize people to continue re-investing during the round.
Currently, he starts the payouts approximately 15-20 mins after the first deposit. This means people have already deposited 70 BTC, and the people who are paid out do not want to re-invest as there is already 70 BTC.
BUT, if the payments were instant like the Fees this might change. OP is instantly transferring the fees to his fee address, but payouts wait 20 mins. Making the payments also instant would give people who are paid to reinvest and therefore the active duration of the round would be much longer.
Just a thought...
What happens and that due to the absurd number of deposits in the first 5 seconds just catching the script and he often has to manually do all of them. The problem is that we only see some whales pouring with bots at the beginning of the round. Even if the payments are instant they're going to not reinvest that won. This and the problem 24 hours, the weekly had 2 to 3 days volume of deposits and the chance to win something all. While insisting to continue maintaining the 24 hours and it's going to happen and I can say that soon the volume will increasingly diminish, because if your deposit delay 4 seconds possibly you will not receive anything, and are just wasting money in this game. If your assumption is true about the whales and the bots, they might actually not re-invest that's true. But if you reduce the return percentage, one round of pay would not be that attractive, and they might want to go more rounds. 30% is quite satisfying even with only 1 round of payout.
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