LiQio
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October 22, 2015, 04:13:21 AM |
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Hours later, the team had to buy another 100k on bittrex, price down of course, more people jumping ship. I'm not even sure how much survey coins are among those sales, looks like less than 5% are able or willing to claim them. As expected, the regime created a process to stop most people from claiming the free coins. Really curious about the final numbers, oh... wait... this is Neucon, the transparent project where numbers are faked or undisclosed. Neucon: Where lies and incompetence go hand in hand.
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TibanneCat
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BTC > etc
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October 22, 2015, 11:37:44 AM Last edit: October 22, 2015, 11:52:22 AM by TibanneCat |
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My last post at the nokoin's forum gulag, let's see how long it lasts lol. I freely quoted many of you guys, hope you don't mind Thank you all for exposing these type of traps that taint the whole crypto space. I'm sure many newbies would have lost money if not for all the facts you posted here!! http://forum.neucoin.org/t/when-will-you-open-your-eyes/1980You were duped into investing your hard earned money with grand claims of this being the next big thing. Now 1/3 of your investment has evaporated and the price just keeps going down because no one is falling for the hype. Free survey coins should be released in a few days to people who will eagerly dump them regardless the price, not to mention the billions coins that will be slowly offloaded by the team to naive newbies. When will you cut your losses?
You were dazzled with a list of rich and famous who supposedly endorsed this project. None of the big names has publicly vouched for nokoin nor seem to be interested in speaking on its behalf. For them it was just one more cheap opportunity to make a small early investment, you know, just IN CASE it made it. When you buy some S&P 500 stocks doesn't mean you stand behind all 500 companies. When will you stop worshiping cardboard standups?
You were betrayed by the founder Dan Kaufman into believing that he is a respectable and trustworthy entrepreneur despite his past legal troubles of infecting millions of computers with spyware and other less-than-stellar ventures. It is public knowledge that his previous company called their users 'trailer cash'. Now he has your money and is nowhere to be heard or seen, only to hide behind fake accounts shilling at other forums. When will you learn to not trust someone with such a dismal track record?
You were hyped with fancy words like innovation and mass adoption, but all you got was a underwhelming re-packaged Peercoin fork with zero proven innovations that would make it stand out. You also got a purposely confusing qt wallet which indirectly forces you to stake all your coins by locking them online for long periods of time. When will you understand that with nokoin, lies and incompetence go hand in hand?
You were invited to join a forum that pretended to be friendly and open, yet those who dared to ask tough questions or expose facts were banned and their posts censored. You'll find as much respect for truth and free speech here as you will in North Korea. Kim Jong Un would be jealous of all the blind faith and mindless propaganda here. When will you stop drinking that Kool-Aid?
You were promised utility since day one, services that would accept nokoin from the start. One month after launch, there is absolutely nowhere to spend your useless coins except dump it in the only one exchange left that will take it [or risk Cryptsy going Mt. Gox]. When will stop waiting for the moon that never comes and realize that you are sinking?
You were impressed with claims of a professional marketing team that would take nokoin mainstream, despite it relying on someone who has been barely able to hold on to a job for the past decade. Now Mark is silently drowning and the only 'marketing' you see is ads and unconvincing paid articles that are laughed at by readers. Even Kourosh [one of the whitepaper authors] left nokoin months ago. When will you raise your threshold of self-deception?
You were fed tales of snowflakes and unicorns when you worried about all the delays, missed targets, anonymous off-shores and dodgy actions. Now you see the list of lies just keeps getting longer, the communication keeps getting even less substantial. When will you realize you've been ripped off by a serial internet crook?
You were told nokoin would gain wide popularity and this was a fantastic chance to jump in early. Oh my, you were even told it would get one million users in the first year!! Now everyday more and more presale buyers dump their coins and walk away in utter disappointment. Per usual, their posts are deleted here but you can read their thoughts at other forums. When will you also step up and say enough is enough?
The red flags are all in front of you, but when will you open your eyes??
Farewell nokoiners, may you be wiser and luckier in your future investments.
So to get free coins I have to provide full personal details and connect with Facebook (which I don't use) and give them my phone details. Piss off! Yep, the founder really inspires confidence
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tempus
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October 22, 2015, 11:49:36 AM |
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Hours later, the team had to buy another 100k on bittrex, price down of course, more people jumping ship. I'm not even sure how much survey coins are among those sales, looks like less than 5% are able or willing to claim them. As expected, the regime created a process to stop most people from claiming the free coins. Really curious about the final numbers, oh... wait... this is Neucon, the transparent project where numbers are faked or undisclosed. Neucon: Where lies and incompetence go hand in hand. The problem with the price is not that much that it's going down. It's more that there isn't potential to rise again. If we would assume that there would be good news some day and the price could rise theoretically, in fact it can't, because the team would have to sell because they need to distribute. It's really a trap... I still don't understand how it's possible that they (team) believed it could work out. Inflation-Update: plus 183,795,475 Coins since launch.
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LiQio
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October 22, 2015, 12:15:56 PM |
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^ agree Tempus. They were told, they wouldn't listen.
But then again, TibanneCat might have a point here. Maybe their primary plan was never to get rich with the coins, but with a different scheme. Looking at the current survey coin disaster, it's possible that the main goal was to collect a big amount of matching cell-phone numbers, facebook accounts and email-addresses - should be worth a couple of bucks on the black market. Because that's a pretty decent base for all kinds of social engineering attacks, identity theft, or the like. Maybe they also collect the passwords you enter when using the web-wallet. Think about all the users that tend to reuse passwords...
Neucon: Where lies and incompetence (and maybe even cyber crimes) go hand in hand.
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October 22, 2015, 02:36:43 PM |
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^ agree Tempus. They were told, they wouldn't listen.
But then again, TibanneCat might have a point here. Maybe their primary plan was never to get rich with the coins, but with a different scheme. Looking at the current survey coin disaster, it's possible that the main goal was to collect a big amount of matching cell-phone numbers, facebook accounts and email-addresses - should be worth a couple of bucks on the black market. Because that's a pretty decent base for all kinds of social engineering attacks, identity theft, or the like. Maybe they also collect the passwords you enter when using the web-wallet. Think about all the users that tend to reuse passwords...
Neucon: Where lies and incompetence (and maybe even cyber crimes) go hand in hand.
lol and im starting to believe that you are a nokoiner trying to make us look like fools because that is industry standard one man verification
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m3ndi3
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October 22, 2015, 02:42:47 PM Last edit: October 22, 2015, 03:17:10 PM by m3ndi3 |
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Oh man it's getting kinda sad and dangerous... A lot of people can't get the verification through their phones so neucoin is telling these people to pm them their phone number, country, and Facebook url. Like regular PM through their forum? How secure is their forum that someone can just hack into an admin account and have all that juicy information?? That is very unprofessional to ask them to email or PM this info. They should just tell the people to hold off on anything until they fix the problem. Seriously, no amount of free neucoin is worth giving up your personal information like that! Edit: Here's the squirrel bot telling people to send their info: We'll look into it. Please send a Private Message with your country, cell phone number and mobile service provider, the email you used to take the submit the surveys and register for MyNeuCoin and your Facebook profile URL. I finally posted back on their forum to warn people not to give their information like this... I just got so angry that they would actually ask such a risky thing... Neucoin: where incompetence and negligence go hand in hand.
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October 22, 2015, 05:07:45 PM |
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Darteous fucking ignorant i have no Facebook like many other people! USA is not 99% of the world you know!
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jonald_fyookball
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October 22, 2015, 06:50:49 PM |
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new low on bittrex: 0.00002375
That's a 42% loss! In less than a month!
now where was that guy who was hoping for a 30% return after a year?
HEY NEUCOIN TEAM -- I GAVE FEEDBACK ON THE WHITE PAPER... WHERES MY FREE COINS?
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October 22, 2015, 07:41:41 PM |
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rizzlarolla
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October 22, 2015, 08:23:30 PM Last edit: October 22, 2015, 08:44:01 PM by rizzlarolla |
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Any sane person can see Colt 45 is likely a team member.
Who's vilifying now? Anyone not totally agreeing with you is disregarded as a team member. Anyone trying to actually discuss anything instead of just agreeing with you, maybe with a different opinion, you just claim are just part of the conspiracy, "in on it"... It's ridiculous. You are obviously entitled to any opinon you want, but so is everyone else. OK. Any sane person can see Colt 45 is likely a team member. Imo. It's hardly vilifying. It's an observation. I do not say that about many people. You registered on nokoin forum Sept 22, 1 week you made 27 posts. You are much more clued up on nokoin than most there. But you never talk numbers? You join here 2 weeks. Just same time as "nokoin project" were clearly shilling this thread. Other nokoin team members post here, sometimes undeclared. If you are not, OK Imo at the moment, you are. Colt45, "Cryptsy, Bittrex, here we come, ready to buy more NeuCoins!" http://forum.neucoin.org/t/tgi-friday-the-exchange-bells-are-about-to-ring/1716Yeah, Keep on buying boys. But.. Is Colt45 part of the team? How many nokoin does Colt45 own? How many more has he bought in the last few weeks? Very few it seems.(use unofficial explorer) NX1KMMYp3RGKCoeYnFtkeRmjLSUzYy92F7 nokoin deposited 450 nokoin sent 400 (tipped nokoin.io) Balance 50 nokoin Where did Colt45 get his 450 nokoin from? From nokoin Projects' bitchin Camaro of course. Nh5D6S2CopzEqswWxWBb4qokz4bqDoRr49 How many nokoin has nokoin Project bitchin Camaro got? Very few it seems. nokoin deposited 1087 nokoin sent 1071 (450 to colt) Balance 15 nokoin nokoin Project Bitchin Camaro did top up her original balance of 500 nokoin when she got a bit short. then a few more.. Where from? NTmJz5Y8sQH4VCFSQGQWRRBS5Edrz6eww1 nokoin deposited (at launch) = 5.824m. (216 btc) If you follow this 5.824m nokoin back on the blockchain, I think you will see it was a presale distribution account. (that has now finished giving) (It goes back to 5cfb9c89f4f9f472cbab1e8f4d304b85234a23db55458b6082f174049376229d 50m nokoin) Look's to me like either, It's bitchins' 5.824m nokoin. She "happened" to be the last presale purchaser paid from this 50m wallet. Buying 216btc presale, (in one tx. not allowed) And having at least 2 mynokoin email accounts. Or someone else bought 216btc presale, (in one tx, not allowed) And they happen to gifted bitchin 4 tx's with all her nokoin, (except a 25 nokoin tip off James mod) and this other someone "happened" to be the last presale purchaser paid from this 50m wallet. Or, most likely, it is foundation nokoin. (left from the presale distribution wallet) and the foundation (these boys and gals) used it to pay bitchin, (a newbie to nokoin forum then),with some play money for some unknown reason. Who then gives half to Colt45. Playing with unofficial (hidden) presale team purchased nokoin? (as tempus explained) Team members ln sock accounts. And there are more and more of these sock Still, Dan and Sandrine gotta shill somehow.
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rizzlarolla
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October 22, 2015, 08:59:50 PM |
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Only 15 BUY orders on Bittrex before nokoin is worth 1 satoshi. 88 btc total, all Dans, except 5 orders worth about 300 nokoin. IMO
Dan, You may have to stake a few more of the investors presale btc on the order book?
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peonminer
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October 22, 2015, 09:02:10 PM |
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dev faded after launch? Name: Sandrine89 Posts: 37 Activity: 37 Position: Jr. Member Date Registered: February 03, 2015, 10:08:55 AM Last Active: September 04, 2015, 05:40:45 AM
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tempus
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October 22, 2015, 09:44:23 PM |
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dev faded after launch? Name: Sandrine89 Posts: 37 Activity: 37 Position: Jr. Member Date Registered: February 03, 2015, 10:08:55 AM Last Active: September 04, 2015, 05:40:45 AM She is not the Dev, but Community-Manager. In the official forum the last post is from Oct 14: http://forum.neucoin.org/users/sandrine/activitySo, maybe not absent but very quiet.
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m3ndi3
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October 22, 2015, 10:05:43 PM |
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dev faded after launch? Name: Sandrine89 Posts: 37 Activity: 37 Position: Jr. Member Date Registered: February 03, 2015, 10:08:55 AM Last Active: September 04, 2015, 05:40:45 AM She is not the Dev, but Community-Manager. In the official forum the last post is from Oct 14: http://forum.neucoin.org/users/sandrine/activitySo, maybe not absent but very quiet. Maybe she was replaced by @acorn the squirrel (funny how they named it acorn now instead of Tippy which was voted by the community)
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rizzlarolla
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October 22, 2015, 11:13:05 PM |
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dev faded after launch? Name: Sandrine89 Posts: 37 Activity: 37 Position: Jr. Member Date Registered: February 03, 2015, 10:08:55 AM Last Active: September 04, 2015, 05:40:45 AM She is not the Dev, but Community-Manager. In the official forum the last post is from Oct 14: http://forum.neucoin.org/users/sandrine/activitySo, maybe not absent but very quiet. Maybe she was replaced by @acorn the squirrel (funny how they named it acorn now instead of Tippy which was voted by the community) Or maybe Mark has been rebranded? Anyway, it's just another layer of Anti-transparency. Another faceless sock... OK, anything is better than Mark I suppose. Hey M3ndi3, Tippy was good... but I prefered "Scammy the squirrel". They should use that.
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October 22, 2015, 11:28:42 PM |
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Confirm account by SMS not work. Unable send message.
Same here Cannot verify my wallet either due to "Unable to send text message." The NoCoin Team can keep my shit coins anyway. Since day one it has been a waste of time. Adios! Same here man,all personal info,fb profile and phone number,and nothing
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jonald_fyookball
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October 23, 2015, 12:40:36 AM |
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Confirm account by SMS not work. Unable send message.
Same here Cannot verify my wallet either due to "Unable to send text message." The NoCoin Team can keep my shit coins anyway. Since day one it has been a waste of time. Adios! Same here man,all personal info,fb profile and phone number,and nothing You will be getting a call from Dan Kaufman since he has your number. He will say "Neucoin didn't work, but wait till you hear about our next coin...its gonna be amazing...just send me 2 BTC."
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m3ndi3
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October 23, 2015, 03:07:15 AM |
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oh man, neucoin community member @alexhiggins732 is killing me right now: It is just a sleazy way to go about it, like those surveys you see online "Take this and we will pay $10.00" Well you think Okay, this is legit companies are really paying 10.00 per legitimate referral. You complete the survey after which you are told okay one more step, please select one of the following "free" trials which of course require a credit card and automatic enrollment in a year long subscription which you are of course "under no obligation" and can "can cancel at anytime" only to try to cancel and find the cancellation process doesn't work so you get lawyers or whoever involve to finally cancel your account only to see the bills continue to come in the mail or show up on your bank statement... which you don't pay which end up in a collection agency which ends up charging you 10 times more than what it would have cost the pay the monthly payment for the that 'free trial' offer that you cancelled in the first place. Read more: http://forum.neucoin.org/t/is-facebook-account-required-to-claim-coins/386/50More people waking up
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