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September 29, 2015, 07:40:18 PM
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A little bit math about this idea:

"To optimize for growth and adoption, a large share of the foundations’ endowment will be given to consumers in exchange for engaging with, trying out, and referring friends to NeuCoin. Another large block will be awarded to companies that help NeuCoin grow its user base and become more useful: game publishers and content providers that accept microtransactions with NeuCoin tokens, exchanges, wallets, consumer mining services, payment processors, remittance services, discounted group shopping services, marketing and distribution partners and other key services to NeuCoin users. Finally, some will be sold, with proceeds used by the foundations to increase the value of NeuCoin through consumer marketing, utility development, and core coin development."


This is the total supply until now: 3,055,006,939

55 Mio new Coins in a few days (don't know when they did start staking, must be before they went public).


But, they say that the PoS-Rate is 100% per year and we calculate with 2.9 billion they hold. So they stake about 8 Mio new Coins every day.

2.9 billion/12 months = 241,666,666 / 30 = 8,055,555 every day


I calculate it with "just" 8 Mio per day.


By the way: What's 8 Mio at the current price (about 0.00004)? 320 BTC.



Let's say I would like to help Neucoin and be engaged... I ask them if I should make a translation of their Wiki (http://www.neucoin.org/en/wiki/) in my language and that I'll need 20 hours for it. They agree to give me $20 per hour in Neucoin.

At the current price that would be 0.084 BTC = 2,100 Neucoin

20 hours: 42,016 Neucoin


Now they distributed 42,016 Neucoin of the 8 Mio they stake in just one day.

They still have 7,957,983 to distribute. (will they tip them all?)


How many highly supportive guys would they need every day?

8,000,000 / 42,016 = 190 highly supportive user every day(!) to get away what they stake every day(!)





But sure, there are also companies... everybody who'll implement Neucoin will get Neucoin. Let's say a Game-Dev implements it in his Game. And let's say they would give him $40,000 in Neucoin for that. That would be 168 BTC = 4,200,000 Neucoin

Still 3,800,000 Neucoin they have to distribute... "today".


If there is one Game-Dev everyday and they give him $40k in Neucoin for implementing Neucoin, it's still not enough to distribute just what they stake in one day!



And what do they work what is worth to stake 8 Mio Neucoin everyday which is (not really) worth 320 BTC (at 0.00004)?



10 days: 3200 BTC... do they work that much? But sure, it's non-profit. They will just hold it and stake it and wait for all the new supporter everyday who will work 20 hours and the Game-Dev - e v e r y d a y !!!  


And, another fun fact: If the game-Dev (of just one day) would dump his 4.2 Mio Neucoin, because he needs money. What price would that be? He would crash the price to 500 sat or something like that and never would get his 168 BTC.  That's just one reason why he never would accept Neucoin for his work.

So... they would have to pay him in BTC, right? But what will they do with all the staked Neucoins they have to distribute? And do they have that much BTC and are willing to pay all the Game-Devs they need to bring this to mainstream?


But yeah, I forgot... China will accept it as official currency and the three-non-profit-foundations will be Chinas 100%-inflation-central-bank.  Cheesy


This project is so entertaining!





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September 29, 2015, 07:41:42 PM
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who can give me a REAL GOOD bottom to enter in newCoin?
thanx

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September 29, 2015, 07:53:18 PM
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Ahem, Neucon regime you cheap peeps.

Somebody "created" the Paycoin Neucon block-explorer and you tipped him/her 500 coins until now.
Compared to the other achievements over the last 1.5 years he/she should get at least let's say 1.8 billion coins. Well, on a second thought better pay the creator from the BTC funds.

Striking: not even a pat on the back from Sandrine, whereas she normally distributes thank yous and smileys thick as fleas on a dog.
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September 29, 2015, 08:08:59 PM
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Where can I download the desktop wallet I don't want to use their online wallet where they steal your stakes if you withdraw your money early. 
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September 29, 2015, 08:34:33 PM
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Never mind I found it on their website, its not advertised well and the desktop wallet is so basic its ridiculous.  Guys do not use the growth account if you withdraw before the time period they don't give you any stake.  If you use the desktop wallet you can withdraw whenever you want with your staking rewards. 
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September 29, 2015, 08:36:25 PM
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Never mind I found it on their website, its not advertised well and the desktop wallet is so basic its ridiculous.  Guys do not use the growth account if you withdraw before the time period they don't give you any stake.  If you use the desktop wallet you can withdraw whenever you want with your staking rewards. 

Did you buy any?
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September 29, 2015, 08:38:59 PM
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who can give me a REAL GOOD bottom to enter in newCoin?
thanx

2billion premine I think a good entry would be 1latoshi.

Crazy people actually buy into this lol
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September 29, 2015, 08:47:02 PM
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I have not yet, it looks like it might be good though with all the backing from big companies and if it actually gets into big mobile games this could take off.  The staking is pretty good and it has a short maturity so I'd get a lot of stakes without having to wait like a week or a month for TEKcoin lol.  I dont know whats your opinion ?
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September 29, 2015, 08:48:30 PM
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I have not yet, it looks like it might be good though with all the backing from big companies and if it actually gets into big mobile games this could take off.  The staking is pretty good and it has a short maturity so I'd get a lot of stakes without having to wait like a week or a month for TEKcoin lol.  I dont know whats your opinion ?

Ah, ..Your new here.
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September 29, 2015, 08:55:49 PM
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I have not yet, it looks like it might be good though with all the backing from big companies and if it actually gets into big mobile games this could take off.  The staking is pretty good and it has a short maturity so I'd get a lot of stakes without having to wait like a week or a month for TEKcoin lol.  I dont know whats your opinion ?

Ah, ..Your new here.

You have seen how naff it is already in your few posts?
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September 29, 2015, 08:56:25 PM
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Yeah, I mean any coin can really be used for "micro transactions"  and in games if the game supports the coin.  So it's not really special, I have been reading through the pages and it looks like nobody likes this coin too much
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September 29, 2015, 09:01:39 PM
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Yeah, I mean any coin can really be used for "micro transactions"  and in games if the game supports the coin.  So it's not really special, I have been reading through the pages and it looks like nobody likes this coin too much

Try reading/asking on nokoin forum to judge for yourself, (and here of course)
Please report back. Smiley
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September 29, 2015, 09:03:17 PM
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I like Neucoin and don't care about angry trolls. Great coin with great vision.

And yes I am new here  Grin
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September 29, 2015, 09:07:24 PM
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cryptsy price down to .00004 (presale price) and almost no volume.  buy wall of ~2 BTC at .00004

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cryptsy price down to .00004 (presale price) and almost no volume.  buy wall of ~2 BTC at .00004

Down to 0.00003858 on Bittrex.
Down 20% in 24h. Roll Eyes
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September 29, 2015, 09:12:03 PM
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Well, I really wanted to believe in this project, but there are some rare things. I was on the Beta and they gave the people 10,000 Beta-NeuCoins, not the real, they close the Beta site for "Maintenance" and quickly they launch to the markets. I read somewhere they will give 10,000 real Neus to the people who where at Beta, but people would have to wait one month after the launch.

Now they are on the markets selling Neu at insane prices (4k sats at this time).  It's really hard to understand why people would be buying an overpriced coin. There are lot of coins with similar coin supply and best profiles and still are far to worth 100 sats...

If they say spread coin to the people is an important matter, why they didn't give real NeuCoins to the beta testers prior to launch? When the time comes I doubt the 10k Real Neus is going to keep the value of 0.4 BTC that have right now... may be, not even $0.01 USD.

Now, I realize they were only marketing the coin. We all know how this kind of storys ends...
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September 29, 2015, 09:15:04 PM
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cryptsy price down to .00004 (presale price) and almost no volume.  buy wall of ~2 BTC at .00004

Great time to buy Neucoin.

Thanks for the info.
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September 29, 2015, 09:23:13 PM
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cryptsy price down to .00004 (presale price) and almost no volume.  buy wall of ~2 BTC at .00004

Great time to buy Neucoin.

Thanks for the info.

Your welcome, good luck.
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September 29, 2015, 10:02:11 PM
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who can give me a REAL GOOD bottom to enter in newCoin?
thanx


Let's do a calculation:

There are 12 people working on this "highly innovative" project. My advice would be to pay them just from what they stake.


Let's be very grateful... because they're working so hard and are so professional and obviously highly skilled, they should have at least $30k each per month, right?

12 persons * $30k = $360k

In Bitcoin that would be ($238): 1,512.6 BTC (126 BTC each person per month)

Each and every month: 126 BTC


If we calculate with that, and I would say that's very generous, we have to calculate at which price...

240,000,000 Neucoins = 1,512.6 BTC

1,512/240,000,000 = 0.00000630


But that only would be an appropriate price if you agree that they should earn $30,000 each per month and just to be paid with what they stake. I mean, they're holding billions, right?

And I wouldn't agree to pay them $30k each per month.


If we do another calculation, with a more normal salary like $5000 each (also very generous in my eyes, because they already hold so much):

$5000 = 21 BTC (each)

12 Persons: 252 BTC

252/240,000,000 = 0.00000105


That would be an appropriate price if the team would be paid with each $5000 per month just out of staking. And maybe a calculation like this can help to show what a freakshow this project is.

Really, I never saw a project like this one. I know, Crypto is about greed and the dream to get rich quick. And there are a lot of projects with that intention, and some are not so bad. But that inflation... they'll never be able to handle it if the price won't drop to 100 sat or something like that. And if it goes down to such a price, this project is dead.


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How long before wallet starts staking?

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