[UNOFFICIAL] [VNL] Vanillacoin 0.4.1 | Instant ▱ Incentivized ▱ Innovative

[iCEBREAKER]

Why the volume on an exchange is going low? VNL should be on the top currency to trade better than any other crap coins in an exchange..

VNL used Bitcoin code without the required proper attribution.  That's considered stealing, even by ardent FOSS greybeards like Gmax.

Rather than apologize for his actions, John Conman tried to deflect by using tu quoque, accusing Bitcoin of stealing SSL or some such bullshit.  And he spammed this forum with duplicate posts.

VNL bragged about their 'zero-conf required on Poloniex' but then it broke and turned into a fiasco.

Even *if* VNL had decent crypto, Monero's upcoming RingCT makes it look old and obsolete.

That's why the volume is low.  Anybody who wanted this crapcoin already filled their bags and (like you) is probably nervously looking around for a greater fool to dump them on.

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[HCLivess]

https://forum.bitcoin.com/vanillacoin/vnl-promotion-to-120-000-potential-users-t3921.html
https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/279/vnl-promotion-to-120-000-potential-users

[HCLivess]

Why the volume on an exchange is going low? VNL should be on the top currency to trade better than any other crap coins in an exchange..

VNL used Bitcoin code without the required proper attribution.  That's considered stealing, even by ardent FOSS greybeards like Gmax.

Rather than apologize for his actions, John Conman tried to deflect by using tu quoque, accusing Bitcoin of stealing SSL or some such bullshit.  And he spammed this forum with duplicate posts.

VNL bragged about their 'zero-conf required on Poloniex' but then it broke and turned into a fiasco.

Even *if* VNL had decent crypto, Monero's upcoming RingCT makes it look old and obsolete.

That's why the volume is low.  Anybody who wanted this crapcoin already filled their bags and (like you) is probably nervously looking around for a greater fool to dump them on.

more like everyone is sick of monero
I used to listen to this shit, but JC has proven himself as a coder, delivered endlessly and without requiring rewards. He has no moral code? I doubt anyone in the monero community has any except for becoming rich off other people. Every time you post I buy another thousand coins.
One of the major points is UDP. Every stupid kid can make the TCP netcode  BTC has, UDP is far more diffucult to implement.
BTC development has not moved anywhere in years, VNL is making leaps every day. How can you not see this?

[pseudonymdude]

Why the volume on an exchange is going low? VNL should be on the top currency to trade better than any other crap coins in an exchange..

things that are wrong

Poloniex lowered the confirmation back to 1.  See: https://poloniex.com/public?command=returnCurrencies

John-connor opened a pull request for a bug fix that prevents a serious exploit with novacoin and peercoin, which novacoin committed and thanked him for.

See: https://github.com/novacoin-project/novacoin/pull/258

Retweet: https://twitter.com/moneyisdigital/status/675872508931923968

[LovSan]

Why the volume on an exchange is going low? VNL should be on the top currency to trade better than any other crap coins in an exchange..

Long time no see you here, you get bored to death spamming DASH thread or what? Can you please promote your manure's upcoming RektCrapTokens elsewhere, thank you.

[iCEBREAKER]

Why the volume on an exchange is going low? VNL should be on the top currency to trade better than any other crap coins in an exchange..

VNL used Bitcoin code without the required proper attribution.  That's considered stealing, even by ardent FOSS greybeards like Gmax.

Rather than apologize for his actions, John Conman tried to deflect by using tu quoque, accusing Bitcoin of stealing SSL or some such bullshit.  And he spammed this forum with duplicate posts.

VNL bragged about their 'zero-conf required on Poloniex' but then it broke and turned into a fiasco.

Even *if* VNL had decent crypto, Monero's upcoming RingCT makes it look old and obsolete.

That's why the volume is low.  Anybody who wanted this crapcoin already filled their bags and (like you) is probably nervously looking around for a greater fool to dump them on.

more like everyone is sick of monero
I used to listen to this shit, but JC has proven himself as a coder, delivered endlessly and without requiring rewards. He has no moral code? I doubt anyone in the monero community has any except for becoming rich off other people. Every time you post I buy another thousand coins.
One of the major points is UDP. Every stupid kid can make the TCP netcode  BTC has, UDP is far more diffucult to implement.[/b]
BTC development has not moved anywhere in years, VNL is making leaps every day. How can you not see this?

On which market do you "buy another thousand coins" every time I post?  I'm going to check it for 1000 VNL market buys.

Quick, go buy another thousand because of this post.  I'll wait...

Done?  Good.

BTC development is moving very quickly.  Did you miss all the BIPs being written/reviewed/tested/implemented?

You either live under a rock, or are trying to hype VNL by attacking BTC.  Probably the former.

VNL has made the "leap" up from zero to 1 required confirmation.  So much for its only supposed feature worth hyping.

I'm glad Polo got a fucking clue before they got flooded with fake VNL.  Polo had no business playing with fire by accepting 0conf VNL scam coins.

[luckygenough56]

that fud is not working, i still can't get any cheap coins 

[dbt1033]

that fud is not working, i still can't get any cheap coins 

That's because it's not fud.  It's truth, and the coins are already cheap.

[luckygenough56]

that fud is not working, i still can't get any cheap coins 

That's because it's not fud.  It's truth, and the coins are already cheap.

i agree vnl tech is broken and will never succeed, let's all dump together

[BadAss.Sx]

Ah Mister *shitcoin* Monero is back. Welcome back...at least every village needs a joker

[souljah1h]

Ah Mister *shitcoin* Monero is back. Welcome back...at least every village needs a joker

[CTRLX]

I quite like icebreaker's eloquence, just think it's a shame he puts it to use the way he does. If you compare his posts in here to his posts in the dash thread he's actually quite mild in his criticism of Vanillacoin. I obviously don't agree with the guy since I like Vanillacoin a lot, but at least he uses his main account instead of a shill one.

[ancientcoins]

Why the volume on an exchange is going low? VNL should be on the top currency to trade better than any other crap coins in an exchange..

VNL used Bitcoin code without the required proper attribution.  That's considered stealing, even by ardent FOSS greybeards like Gmax.

Rather than apologize for his actions, John Conman tried to deflect by using tu quoque, accusing Bitcoin of stealing SSL or some such bullshit.  And he spammed this forum with duplicate posts.

VNL bragged about their 'zero-conf required on Poloniex' but then it broke and turned into a fiasco.

Even *if* VNL had decent crypto, Monero's upcoming RingCT makes it look old and obsolete.

That's why the volume is low.  Anybody who wanted this crapcoin already filled their bags and (like you) is probably nervously looking around for a greater fool to dump them on.

you keep going on on and on about copyrights for btc, instead of posting here why hasn't someone put up a case against it then. not one of the btc developers ave filed a legal case, i wonder why? maybe because they ain't got one. you might think its copyrighted but in law your opinion is not fact, so if its a big deal then put up a legal case or shutup

the fact that gmax took out time to discuss the an altcoin out of the 100s out there says something. you lot act like this is the 1st time in the history of bitcoin copright has been broken. the only reason why its being made a big deal of is because vnl is a threat to the top crypto currencies

now i have a small tiny project would anyone care if i broke copyright law on bitcoin now if google did then that would have everyone pissed why?
im not fully convinced anyway john has.

"VNL bragged about their 'zero-conf required on Poloniex' but then it broke and turned into a fiasco."

nothing was wrong with VNL, poloniex said clearly it was a issue from their side so everything you said is BS.

[traumschiff]

Ah Mister *shitcoin* Monero is back. Welcome back...at least every village needs a joker

Just call him Eduardo de HashFast, that is his most known (scammer) name.

Also no need to take Monero into this discussion, they have a hard time already if you look at the charts.

[dygus]

We need FUDers like Icebreaker. It brings a lot information for potential buyers/investors.

Keep going.

[hughbt]

By the way, what is the most secure place to store the btc?

From my side,definitively,I hold all my btc on VNL

So you are recommending a portfolio that is not diversified?

That's funny. People here are acting like they are big investors. "O M G :O :O You are not diversifying? Its #1 rule." It's not a fricking Wall Street, you're not buying bonds to earn 4% per year, it's a casino. What do you want to diversify? Your risk is 100% on whatever coin you invest. Especially when you invest in altcoins, because you also have to follow bitcoin's price. Information assymetry is huuuge. Just decide how much you want to risk and diversify between crypto and other investments. Find a coin with best risk/reward ratio, take a gamble and don't hold it for too long.

VNL is a great investment. I don't really see it going lower and has huge potential for growth. Risk/reward is outstanding. Why would I buy DASH or other shitcoins if there is literally very low potential for growth and risk is the same? This really doesn't make sense to hold more than 2-3 coins, because generally all of them are losing value with the passing time, so I don't want to follow this pattern.

Doesn't matter if it's wall street or not.  If you don't diversify, you are gambling.

There are several coins that are good stores of wealth.

Thanks for the discertation, but please, no one listen to this fool.

You are gambling on every coin. The only diversification which makes sense is between crypto and real investments.

There are several coins that are good stores of wealth.

The only thing it takes is bitcoin to go from 420 down to 200. There goes your good store of wealth. LOL If someone doesn't understand the amount of risk which he takes by investing in a cryptocurrency then the discussion is just a waste of time. If you diversify between the highly correlated instruments with the very high rate of risk you only thinking you're not gambling and fooling yourself. Of course diversification lowers your risk(when you are investing and you know what the word "correlation" means  ), but it also cuts your potential gains and when the risk is that high you don't want to do that.

I wish you best of luck anyway.

So you are saying that because the cryptosphere is so risky, diversification is not important?

I'd still rather diversify my risks.

And I never said btc was a good store of wealth.

I like your use of vocabulary though.  Makes you look intelligent.

I'm not saying it's not important, but it might not be the best strategy. It also depends on your appetite for risk, but if it's low, why are you investing in crypto(high risk investment)? If every single coin in your wallet is heavily correlated with the bitcoin(and it is), doesn't matter how many you are holding, risk is not diversified(systematic risk is high). If bitcoin goes down, all of your coins will lose value. So you can only diversify the specific risk. Which IMO is not that high for the top, established coins. So as I said before, if the level of risk is similar I'm investing in the coins with the highest possible rate of return. That's why I said buy max. 2-3 coins and don't hold it for too long but I understand why he said he is holding everything in VNL. It makes sense and I'm doing the same thing(best risk/reward).

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[redjedievolution]

very good image,  you make me laugh.

People loves to complain.

[YAdaminer]

We need FUDers like Icebreaker. It brings a lot information for potential buyers/investors.

Keep going.

...well, if you check dust around him I realy dont know what kind of informations he could bring and if anyone should trust anything he says.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381687.0

[dygus]

We need FUDers like Icebreaker. It brings a lot information for potential buyers/investors.

Keep going.

...well, if you check dust around him I realy dont know what kind of informations he could bring and if anyone should trust anything he says.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=381687.0

You didn't get a point.

On every accusation made by him, there is a lot of specific informations given by community members.