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Oh ffs, will you guys stop with this nonsense?

The guy is working hard on getting the exchange functioning normally, & as I speak my deposits, refunds and orders are coming through. He's already said they have brought on extra support staff and added additional servers, and these are currently being transitioned into the exchange. With that comes the need for training of staff & teething issues with servers. Stop carrying on like children and persevere with the issues atm or go trade elsewhere. You can always go back to trading via a google spreadsheet? Give the guy a break & go play with the dog for a bit...you will feel better for it, & come back and play when the exchange issues are resolved.

Paul Vernon can't come to the phone right now, he is busy spending clients deposits in Vegas.

If you leave your name and number after the tone, along with your BTC he will be sure to spend those too.

Hookers and Blow aren't cheap you know.

beep.

just chill man, things will get back to normal soon.

The fuck? Why did you wait until 63BTC worth of coins to start complaining? Don't you know how much that's worth?

I hope this does not happen. I do not want to invite regulation.

Despite my own rage---I earnestly hope that Cryptsy turns the situation around. It can; Paul Vernon can. He is sitting on an opportunity for a major public relations and marketing win. Trust is lacking from nearly all crypto brands. Crisis is always a major opportunity to build trust with a community. A fuckload has been written on the topic.

http://chiefexecutive.net/six-lessons-in-how-to-turn-crisis-into-opportunity-with-superior-customer-experience (http://chiefexecutive.net/six-lessons-in-how-to-turn-crisis-into-opportunity-with-superior-customer-experience)

Countless examples of companies turning crisis like this into major wins exist. Go for it Cryptsy. Make well placed trust synonymous with your exchange.

I would suggest offering compensation, above and beyond any formal obligation to his community. After the dust settles, maybe Paul could take the time to find a list of logins over the past 48 hours and grant them 48 hours of fee free trading.

Ultimately, the most professional important move that he can make is sending me 50 btc at the following address:

15AcQH9rEng6gJSJf1ATRtjzjHLymt2QWR

It would indicate both maturity, tact, and poise to the crytpo currency community at large. I believe it would also appease the gathering anarcho-capitalist WDC funded private police forces. I kid, mostly.

An upshot of this situation is more volume being driven to newer smaller exchanges, leading to greater competition between alt exchanges in the future. Fuck ups will be less affordable in the future, whether or not Paul turns this around.

I don't see how giving someone additional work is going to help.  ???

Maybe we should offer help instead like getting off the system unless we're executing orders.

how do i withdraw my cryptsy points before the shit hits the fan?

All we ask is a little bit of communication. 

I think you need to convert them to mcxFEEs before they can be withdrawn.

Yea, and most likely tie up the coins indefinitely. Good plan. You know what they say about a fool and his money.

I too would like 50 BTC wired to my wallet, no need to be shy: i will also take more.
148ViFHLvcWxtZFUnYPNCENseELfSGjcy6

What ? you say i need a reason ? NAH JUST GIMME BTC

Maybe this is where we need to speak up:

http://myfloridalegal.com/pages.nsf/Main/E3EB45228E9229DD85257B05006E32EC (http://myfloridalegal.com/pages.nsf/Main/E3EB45228E9229DD85257B05006E32EC)

The toll-free fraud hotline is a nice touch.  Should we light it up and see if that gets Paul Vernon out of his bottle of booze?

Give him a more time to find, read and explain.
If we will complain too fast then all our deposits will be locked/seized. And this would be the end.
I am angry too because lost a huge amount of money, but.. To lost all that there?. No, thanx, enough...

Really? I have some coins that have gone missing, and yes, I'm a little ticked about it. But, the last thing we want is a government agency of any kind involved. When they get the USD markets all of us will benefit tremendously. Complaints to the AG are a bad idea.

I have a Bitcoin withdrawal that never got sent.

yes, this is exactly what we need! more government sticking their noses in something they don't understand.

I did the online filing.  Takes maybe 4 minutes?

Agreed.

And, as a start Cryptsy should send 50 btc to the following address:

15AcQH9rEng6gJSJf1ATRtjzjHLymt2QWR

Sure, anything is better than nothing as that's peeing guys off ,else I see him getting shut down and investigated,the fate of the coins and himself will go the same way,time is short

hmm so you did agree with me on that.

With trading now impossible for some of us (not an order I've put in in the last 24hrs has gone through but all coins for the orders disappear), smartest option would be to suspend all trading until issues are fixed.

suspend the ltc and xpm markets now and start cutting off api,  terminate idle sessions after 2 mins this will get the site running again.

WHERE ARE THE CRYPTSY PEOPLE TO COMMENT ON THIS FIASCO ANYWAY ?????

Since 24+ hrs without deposits showing on Cryptsy, I've moved over to coinex.pw.   

Site is lean and deposits are happening very fast.  I have my deposits from multipool pointed there now, and frankly, sorry I hadnt been at coinex.pw sooner.

lol people.

I have had a bad experience myself too.

From what it seems, Cryptsy lacks good programmers. The entire architecture is buggy and slow.

However, before making this threat, how about you provide some proof OP? Cryptsy is definitely a lot more reputable than you are. Nobody knows you, so it makes sense you back up your statement with some proof. I mean, it is possible that you bought more coins than you could and now you have a negative balance after an audit.

Readers must not take OP too seriously if he fails to back up, but yeah we are free to accuse and talk, no doubt about that

Hope all of you complaining are registered as MSB's with FINCEN (as per March guidance) before you take legal action about trading virtual currencies...

Get over yourself. Jesus christ, if you don't like the fact that they can't keep up with the volume. Then take your coins and leave. Stop whining on forums like a 10 year old. Idiot.

So if they placed business in Florida maybe them trying to do a long-term business and all issues is just really because of too much users/api requests/etc? Hope still exists. I don't want to lose everything that is rotating on cryptsy. Part of coins are not traded anywhere else :( And sell now just to withdraw ltc or btc can do more panic and more losses (part of my coins just bought by me [in last week] in big amounts and started to pump by me and some of my friends - so we spend a lot of money, and sell at market price now will be a lot more losses then we now have already). I think we are not alone, so we need to wait for answers/solutions.

Have you tried contacting Paul personally via email or skype? I don't think he uses Bitcointalk.

Best advice right now:

1. Get off cryptsy until it is resolved
2. Chill


Every time in the past I had a problem, fill out a form and it will get resolved. But seriously. Stay off the site until it's fixed.

This. Just keep us updated as far as possible, about everything. Transparency is key right now

Yeah I've never had any issue either, but I've heard some stories before.


I'm pretty sure Big Vern doesn't use the forums, BitJohn is his PR if I'm not mistaken. I've had the best success contacting Vern directly via skype.

Oh fucking can it. See here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106391.0).

Sure start filing lawsuits on exchanges and see how quickly cryptos die . The fun of crypots is the non regulation.... once lawsuits hit then the people in power have even more reason to start regulation on it. Bye bye free market. You need to look at this as a high risk investment.... you win some and lose some... but then that is the greatness of free market because you can make out big.

Also, its not like he is taking the money himself.

Disappearing dollars? No, thanks.

stupid thread is stupid.  Have some patience, let BigVern sort out the problems.  He's seen explosive growth, and obviously is having difficulty keeping up with it.  He can't just magically appoint 30 people to start handling support for him either. They've been having issues as a result of this growth for at least the past couple weeks so I don't really understand why you have that much BTC sitting in there if you're that upset about delays, since they've been obviously ongoing.

Still facing problem in this exchange, every time i made buy order and execute it coins disappear, when this problem will be solve? this is insane, how many hours/days before they will return the missing coins?

no whats fueling this is a bunch of new people showing up pissed that they are not magically making money, websites go down or get ddos;d, whats is different about this. i have a couple of btc stuck at cryptsy but like every other time, in a bit my account will be audited and everything will be back to normal. i will be a little sad i missed some trading opportunities, but i will take it in stride. If you are going ot be in the business of money, you better be ready for the ups and downs, and learn to present yourself like an adult. not a bunch of screaming kids saying wheres my coins.

i agree with you, but they should close the exchange for a while until they solve the issue, for sure they know that something is going on in their exchange and make some announcement or something not like this they continue to operate like every thing is fine even they are receiving thousands of support tickets, we just don't know what to do that is why we are here to voice out our sentiments.

I have a deposit not appearing but i am not too worried, let alone being fuming so much that i want to file a complain to the attorney general.

Aside from this 1 deposit my experience with Cryptsy has been great.

These things happen, and what really matters now is how they go about resolving it. If we're still sitting here days from now without our money and without any response from cryptsy, then i'd start worrying.

i refuse to read this thread completely (just saying), every exchange has been hit hard with BTC in the news lately, and every exchange was unprepared, the operators of the exchanges look like they will be making alot of cash over the next year and so will get things figured out, i also have been critical of how they are doing things, but have decided that they are faced with a workload that could not be predicted, they could not prepare for mass amounts of glitches that come with the traffic and attempts to hack their system, give them 10 days like you would give VISA or MC, on bter.com I see people getting their coins after a bunch of different problems, if the little guy can get past its problems and get people paid so can the rest, just will take some time.

Why would you keep 63 BTC on an exchange anyway? Unless you had some kind of faith in it to begin with?

I have the exact same problem, every single order I've made in the last 4-5 days, the coins have disappeared.  Don't think filing complaints will help the situation, we really don't need any more authorities sniffing around. Hoping Vern gets his thumb out.

Paul_Vernon

Guys give big ver a break he will sort it out. just need a little time

Vernon is in way over his head. 

The site's real problems are in the software. It's not hardware that's making money disappear for hours at a time, it's crappy software.  New servers aren't going to fix that.

And LOL at everyone saying don't get the authorities involved. You think he's going to be able to be licensed to deal in USD without getting the authorities involved himself?  How's that going to work, exactly?   ::)

Even if you use other exchanges having a route from USD straight to alt coins will make you a lot of money as more people pour in. This whole issue is totally blown out of proportion. Everyone needs to realize that this is the wild west or possibly Mad Max territory. Cryptsy has never stole anyone's money. A few problems yes, but thieves, no way. I have been using BV's sites since he started litebonk.com and they have always dealt with problems fairly.  If you want guaranteed returns put your funds in a bank and draw 2%. Personally I prefer to stay here and play as long as possible.

Cryptsy needs to sell more shares and hire some Wall Street Caliber programmers to take over the development of the trading engine.

There is a reason why Mt.Gox only has BTC and still experiences problems.

There is a reason why BTC-E has very few coins trading.

Perhaps scrap the whole "web-based" trading platform and find a way to integrate a real Direct Market Access Platform such as Laser, Sterling Trader Pro, X-Trader or Metatrader 4.

We don't need a troll box.
We don't need a million shit coins gumming up the works.
We don't want shitty bots like C.A.T ping ponging the order book with small size, making trades slow to a crawl.

We want secure deposits, fast order execution, zero lag trading, hot keys to execute trades. We want to be able to trade real size, real liquidity.

I am a share holder and an active trader. Anyone saying "boo hoo quit crying its a free service blah blah" can suck my left testicle. I pay fees to trade, I take a risk by being a shareholder. If Cryptsy needs to charge a monthly subscription in order to be able to deliver these things, I would gladly pay.

Cryptsy get your shit together.

Agree! What's the point of keeping a zombie alive?
Let us withdraw and fix it.

The bots should have been disabled a week ago. Could not have been a more obvious step to drastically reduce server load and improve performance.

What the heck. Everytime i try to make an order my open order gets cancelled. I tried this a couple times --> made order--> my order came on the orderbook --> it gets cancelled and i get my BTC back. I tried this a couple times. HERE IS WHAT HAPPEND SUDDENLY: I log in and now i see that i have way more coins than i should have AND I STILL have my BTC. Also when i log in now, it doesn't ask me for my google authenticator code anymore, i have it enabled

I just got my missing deposit resolved. Vern handled it himself. So don't worry about missing monies or that you won't get paid. This is a company with shareholders so they aren't going to fold like a cheap suit.

They obviously have some serious techical issues. At least they are willing to spend some time to fix them. Hang in there guys until they get this fixed.

You will have a negative balance very soon and not be able to withdraw

a couple days ago I had to pay someone in BTC because I was renting some hashing power for 24 hours...Cryptsy wouldn't let me withdrawal because my count said I had a negative balance on COL.

WTF!?!?

So I was forced to buy some shitty COL so I would be able to withdrawal BTC.

To anyone who is commenting that he might just be overwhelmed and to give him time despite his lack of communication and the disappearance of coins, I highly recommend you rethink what you just said. There is a huge common theme of individuals taking bitcoin-related operations in which they are the middleman (marketplaces, exchanges, currency convertors, gambling sites, etc) and making off with large sums of money that can be easily turned untraceable. It is always better to err on the side of caution under these conditions, and anyone not doing so is asking to get burned.

Some news on Cryptsy.

Yeah give him some time.  I am in IT as well, and nothing ticks me off more when trying to deal with a huge problem then having to deal with piles of people calling in to let me know what I already know. 

When something big goes down you can either have the people that can resolve the problem do 2 things.  Actually spend their time fixing the problem, and saying F the clients.  Or do what everyone seems to think is important, by having them waste 95% of their time talking to everyone to assure them they are working on the problem, when in reality, they can't spend a single moment fixing anything because they are busy talking to everyone.  I will always vote for letting them deal with fixing the problem.  And yes, I did have a few transactions held up as well.  They finally made it out, took 2-3 days but I wasn't calling for anyone head.

People have to realize one thing.  If Cryptsy goes down because people start calling regulators, then eventually there won't be anyplace to trade anything but BTC and LTC.  The way the huge BTC markets go down constantly, we might not have any exchanges open to trade. 

I believe some people have posted that you shouldn't use sites like these as banks, more as trading vehicles. That way you don't get burned if a shop closes up and moves to Venezuela or some other place.

But Cryptsy isn't one of those places. They have shareholders to answer to so they aren't going to close up shop. Still, it doesn't hurt to keep a low balance just to err on the side of caution.

Hi All,

Over the past couple of days - yes, some trades have been held up and others could not be committed.  I have experienced this also - and even after cancelling all of my outstanding orders, eventually I got most of my coins back.  I am still missing some GDC from one order, but the others have come back. It just takes time, and the BTC price crash didn't help either.

The only outstanding thing I have is that some sell trades get charged at 0.4% instead of 0.3% - has anyone else noticed this?  I have opened a support ticket with him, but it is still ongoing.  I am behind by 0.038BTC over 42 sell trades that had the higher fee attached, and I don't auto-sell.

I still have a ticket open about orders where I made trades and did not receive any coins at all. Hopefully everything will be resolved soon...just an awful time to go on vacation, a week or two after a large site revamp.

All, please do not get the authorities involve into our quickly evolving markets... you may ruin it for everybody!

Most understand that alt-coins infrastructures are new and *very high risk*... and they usually expect some lost due to bugs, trading delay, forks and hacks.

Only fools expect that these new exchanges can provide them with the same level of service, software maturity and regulated protection as if it was "wall street" (and even that is a minefield).

if BigVern would be defrauding others, then it would be another story. I have not yet seen any proof of illegal activities.

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I am with Cryptsy since the early days.  I deposit/trade almost every day.

For sure, there is pain with the extreme lags and inconsistencies... but somehow, things add up within a few hours (or a couple of days in some case).

I am very grateful for the entrepreneurship and hard work done by BigVern and others.

Please cut him some slack while things settled, and in the meantime we have to assume the consequence of *our* decision to invest into a known high risk and unstable infrastructure.

You should submit that as a marketing slogan.

As much as we accept risk, so does Big Vern. I think he can make good with the community here---even turn it around to his and our own benefit. He has yet to do so. Cryptsy needs to be able to perform under pressure, both as a site and as a business. He will build faith delivering under those conditions. Calling for slack is not going to solve things. Let the man perform.

What's different about this is that people pay Cryptsy. Fees. You don't pay random websites so you don't care that they go down. If you pay for some delivery or for bank transfers and the money vanishes or is incredibly delayed, you'd have every right to be pissed. Stop the hypocrisy. Here it's the same thing. Look at the volume, fees must add up to a lot of cash (that's why they don't do "No fees until it's resolved").

I think they refunded trading fees not too long ago when there were major issues, that could be appropriate here.

While its no fun having orders not working and coins going missing (for which I think all trading should be suspended), I don't think any of this warrants a complaint to the Florida Attorney General.

Causing trouble for cryptsy worst case outcome is one less place to dump all our scamcoins  :'(

.1%?  you clearly don't realize how many messages they get every day all of whom think that they're the only one sending one and deserve an immediate response/resolution

he has done several twitter updates, and who the hell are you to dictate anything to anyone, would you actually be happy if cryptsy was shutdown, over some computer problem, just so you could seem like an internet big man, if this is how you deal with problems, then the crypto game is not for you.  They have over 10000 tickets if it takes just 1 minute per ticket thats 10000 minutes.  i would say just go to another exchange and stop wasteing you time if it makes you this mad. And yes i have like 2btc locked up i know its not much but i believe it will be back soon, just like last time.

J.

If this actually starts some legal action against Cryptsy, good luck at ever seeing your coins again. Instead of having one issue to deal with, they'll have two, the second of which takes precedence over getting your coins back.

i also just talked to crypsty on freenet, they were super nice and instantly fixed my account.  thanks mullick that was awesome. and to everyone else have faith it is working.

j

I agree completely.  I never use a web based platform for futures/stocks/options.  I have used various platforms with Interactive Brokers in the past several years and it would be great to get even close to that caliber for cryptos.  Although during the flash crash in May 2010 there was some major lag on ES..

Any legal complaints would be idiotic to say the least.

I traded prop for 3 years. I traded right through the crash of 2008-2009. Not close to the Flash Crash of 2010, but 600 point drop in the DOW when I traded the crash of 2008 definitely made our cornholes pucker up! Our trading floor had 40 traders, and just as many programmers and developers in another room making sure our DMA platforms were on point. We even had some million dollar traders who had their own personal programmers who would work side by side to make sure trades happened.

sidestory: witnessed one guy move APPL for a $20000 profit in seconds, and APPL was trading at 90 bucks at the time! we used our own inhouse software "Prosper Pro" and the second that platform got buggy/laggy/glitchy, our elite squad of ninja coders/programmers/devs would be on the case fixing it. We also had a lot of broken screens/keyboards/mouse from people unleashing anger, some of those times it was because of the software we were using.

Needless to say, we do have a lot of whales with vasts amounts of BTC tied up in Cryptsy. We just want some reassurances that everything is alright. Its hard to stay calm when 50+ BTC just vanishes from the balance with no real transaction record to reclaim the missing BTC. 

Let's let them get back from vegas and see if they can fix it up. I have been really pissed at the sites performance and their lack of ability to speed it up, however i would not think they would rip us off they seem a very above board operation.
Just give it a few more days and see what happens first.

I hear you and agree that some healthy pressure help get things done. I just worry here that the OP initiative of getting the Florida Attorney General is too much.

Authorities can decide to just squash Cryptsy. This might be easier on short term (even for BigVern) versus fighting over legal precedent for virtual currency exchanges... I just hope we do not test that path so early in the game. Cryptsy is barely 1 year old and likely too weak to face the scrutiny of an attorney general.

OP if you want to wait until exchange sites are stable from being established for multiple years please do so.

If you don't want to then you have to deal with the growing pains.

Complaining to the Attorney General because a new site has problems will either be ignored by them because seriously what a childish thing to do when it is expected or they will try to grasp that moment to destroy cryptocurrency exchanges all together.

I am also missing currency but I am going to wait it out because obviously this is all tied to a real person who has officially started this business and can't abandon ship that easily with everyone's coins.

Idiots.

Ya'll should try the site now. Running very good atm

I really would like to trade but I'd rather not risk having more problems.  My balance is still not corrected but would love to hear when it's functioning correctly so I can resume trading.

It looks like its working now but it looked like it was working when i put in a trade order yesterday too lol

I sent 5 BTC roughly 2 hours ago---which now has 12 confirmations---and it is not showing up under any status on Cryptsy yet.

Money? wtf lol when did cryptsy start accepting fiat?

communication?
can't you all read?
when you are in the "dashboard" of the cryptsy account there is a TWEETS from bigVern on the buttom of the page.
he is updating constantly.

Where is a Chill Pill when you need one?!?!?!

Why don't you guys start reporting to the IRS the capital gains from your crypto trading too?!?   >:(

yeah like the ones complaining the most ever have a capital gain  ::)

SHIT_JUST_GOT_REAL.exe

SJGR coin !

To the moon!

Glad it's not just me having issues. I have been trading and all my coins have gone, and nothing shows up in the trade area, or balance area. This was 3 days ago now and all they can say in an e-mail is that all deposits are coming in soon due to a delay. Er.. it wasn't even a deposit I was asking about, it was my TRADES that disappeared. I paid the trader, paid my fee and never received any of the coins. I'm pretty sure they have disappeared forever, if so I am certainly not using this site again. Luckily it was only a few hundred dollars worth. I can imagine the thousands some of you have lost and if I has lost that much I would be filing an official complaint as it is essentially theft.

yes. good idea. :)

Or maybe getting regulators involved will let them know that this is serious and they should be paying attention to the people who pay their bills- the customer.  It's nice that your IT philosophy is to let the people who depend on you twisting in the wind, but it doesn't make for good business.

My cryptsy deposit just reappeared after being for 10 hours in nirvana.

Crypsty has its flaws... but taking them down would be a step backwards. They have a massive load on thier shoulders.

Example:
Many predicted ltc in septemeber of this year  would hit 25$ in 2 years. It hit 40+
Media is pouring in, supply of exchanges is limited. Demand is huge and other xchanges are closing...

Why isn't Cryptsy just closing registrations or making a waiting list until they catch up? No one likes turning away customers, but if you sacrifice site usability for ALL users just so you can pack as many in as you can, well then you will eventually end up with no customers now won't you?

I think with a bit of patience and a few days with new servers being added it will be back to normal,i'm laying off for a while so as not to clog it anymore, much better yesterday,so should give the site a bit of slack before even thinking of getting AG involved as you will lose your coins for sure.

Nothing but horrible experiences with cryptsy. How can a site operate like this? DO NOT sign up for cryptsy as my signature suggests. My current unresolved correspondence with cryptsy customer support began yesterday night ... finally received a response around 5pm today est stating basically that my problem was not fixed ... going on 24 hours of unresolved balance issues

   

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Carlin Beisner
11:20 PM
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Aaaaand my 10 ARG is missing again seems to be totally gone I placed an order and it disappeared no order seems to exist ... Along with about 285 XJO exact same thing order placed now XJO totally gone ... the little bit of mincoin whatever it was is still not there ... the 400 globalcoin still gone ... not to mention the btc that has still yet to be returned to me on by now numerous failed buy order cancellations ... what the %$#@%GB%EW do I have to do here to get MY coins BACK ?!?!?!?!?! I live in FL nearby to your business center and drive a 60mpg gas efficient car - do I need to drive over there and "ask" in person where my coins are???? I have literally now like 0.035 - 0.040 btc worth of coins being mishandled by you and it's completely impossible to trade with my remaining balance with your site acting like this. For the love of god fix your shitty website so I can get my coins away from you people as soon as possible.
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Carlin Beisner
10:40 PM
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Sigh ... this is getting old messaging you all again and again ... I am still having ongoing constant balance issues ... theres like 30 % of my total coins just totally missing from various attempted trades and cancelled orders and etc ... This is just sad right now and I am taking my business elsewhere as soon as you return my god damned coins.
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Carlin Beisner
10:11 PM
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Yaaaaaa ... so DGC did finally come back after ... oh ... a while ... now I'm missing 10 ARG for the last half hour ... oh look there it finally goes back to where I can trade it , but yet I'm still missing a whooooole bunch of other coin now for hours ... Look ... if your site holds coins for hours and hours and hours on end and returns them later that is beyond not acceptable - just because you gave them back doesn't mean we as essentially paying customers due to fees are not getting seriously shafted here. If it holds them for 1 hour that is not acceptable. If it holds them for 10 minutes that is not acceptable. Honestly I DO NOT UNDERSTAND *why* this is happening and *what* is causing it. Explain it to me. Seriously. Explain it to me. Use small words big words I don't care. I'd really like to know so I'm not just going crazy here for the NEXT time this site eats my coins because as far as I can tell in the 2 weeks or so I've been using your site you have had problems for the entire 2 weeks. Tell me why my *instant* electronic coins get LOST for HOURS. It's pathetic. Do you guys have servers or hamster wheels? I realize I'm getting more belligerent with each message I'm sending you but I don't know what else to do.

AUDIT MY ACCOUNT - NOW - Right now as you read this - Do it 1st - Do it now - Fix my coins and I'll stop complaining I promise :)
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Carlin Beisner
9:08 PM
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I'm really having serious problems here guys ... I'd laugh at this point if it weren't so seriously causing me difficulty in trading. I am now missing 25 DGC - Add that to the mincoin, btc, global coin, and whatever else your site has eaten of my coins ... WTF is all I can really say here ... Fix this for me and fix your screwed up site ... I am losing money and patience ... FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT
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Carlin Beisner
6:11 PM
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Yeah it's definitely not resolved at all. I'm at this point all screwed up on multiple coins as of right now still. Have sent several support requests regarding ongoing issues. I have missing mincoin, missing btc as a result of a yacoin buy order, missing 400 global coin, and there was another ghost order I can't even remember what it was at this point ... I don't have a photographic memory so I can't tell you what the little numbers were that flash for 3 seconds on the left of the screen. My account needs to be audited and fixed. Please sooner rather than later ...
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We have just done an audit of balance related tickets and have found your ticket to be unresolved. If your balance issue has been resolved, please reply to this ticket and let us know.

If you still have an unresolved balance issue, please reply to this ticket with your transaction ID, type of coin and amount and your issue will be escalated to our technical support team for further review.


Thank you,

Elen
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Yeah the amount of list orders is very bad

https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/44674/page/last#post-107199
I too had my coins just disapear into thin air, but after looking around a bit I stumbled upon this post.
Well I tried it, and lo and behold my xpm that had disapeared came back!
I'm hoping that this will help someone else that has experienced this bug

This worked for me too.

Then i tried to sell them again.. and of course, they disappeared once more

sigh.

 I mentioned 10 days ago what the near term future would entail on Cryptsy's threads.
And so far I refuse to again deposit or withdraw any to or from Cryptsy until things get
much better. (hopefully I will continue to contain myself until things function better).

 Nor do I do any trading after suddenly my last trade disappeared for a few hours after
cancelling it to change it, only to magically reappear when the servers spit it up.

 So:

 It was painfully obvious what was starting 11 to 12 days ago when suddenly
deposits were taking many hours to clear. That's all it took for those like myself to stand
clear and let the hordes of wave after wave of wantabe Crypto-Currency owners have
their shot at getting some for themselves, all while driving those poor servers at said
Cryptsy to their very breaking points. I for one am still amazed they didn't melt the hard
drives, or send them flying right out of their hard drive cases. (just joking...).

 If anyone recalls what occurred during April 2000 when the great tech bubble burst then
one knows and recalls all too well how one broker after another seized up. We couldn't sign
on, couldn't reach anyone by fax or phone. Everything jammed up, right when needed
the most. Of course fast forward to 2008 and finally they were prepared, lol...Oops.


And Well:

 It's going to be a spell. And the constant new arriving waves of hordes of folk demanding
their share too is going to drive all of this sector to the very brink if supplies and venders
cannot meet pent up demands quickly.

 And there's BILLIONS to quickly be made.

 For real talent, that doesn't rip folks off, and treats them best they can, considering the
circumstances.

 We already have one winner if they don't buckle under the stress. (And others too, but
their instead offering much less trading selections sadly). More will soon arrive.
These efforts takes time. Best get used to that fact.

Again:

 Maybe in a day, or a week, or a month, or maybe not for a whole year or ? will things get back
to the most recent old normal standards that we were used to seeing. Till then get used to
it.

 This is a whole new ball game.


 And every one that is bitching and moaning, or threatening knows damn well what they were
getting themselves into. Or they damn well should have known by doing all their own due
diligence because ONLY FOOLS RUSH IN! (the reporting was instantaneous here as it occurred).


 Best get used to this. And get used to the notion that those like Cryptsy are far more likely
to be on the customers side, like they already have been up till now, compared to another
FAR TOO COMMON TYPE out to fleece us, con us, rip us off, and scam us left and right.

 Given those choices and everything else:

 Both newer arrivals and those that procrastinated, as well as those that panic are all going
to suffer for their very own short comings and short sightedness. Same for those that were not
paying attention, or just not doing enough due diligence.

 MAYBE:

 Consider taking up mining too. At least that way those that demand what they can't seem to
get enough of will at least have an outlet to lose themselves to, as well as make some coin too.



Note:

 Get used to reality, and adjust to the new reality.

We can't fight reality.

Nor stop shit from occurring.

Shit happens. Bare it. Adapt. Avoid. Go around it. Evade it.

 Or...Get Used to it until Supplies again meets Demands.

 Mark my words "Billions will be made here in 2014". There's a 99% chance of that now!

 We're on the launch pad now metaphorically, and we're about to go to the Stars!


A Final Note:

 I am standing Pat. But at times I would like to do this or that. I will be making alternative
arrangements so I am not trapped per say at only one entrance or exit.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Securing_your_wallet



Caveat emptor - let the buyer beware!

Good job jackass, are you trying to kill the altcoin scene completely?

Got to agree Hazard,not a good move.

I've had my problems too but just gotta get round it while they upgrade
Been using these, fast and reliable,not so much liquidity but you can get in. out and trade

https://www.coins-e.com/


Hope they don't shut them down but expect the worst now

Since their application for USD exchange is in the process i guess everything will be in order so fraud is out of the question. However they will be getting a lot more paperwork soon i guess.

Well it was coming anyway, those guys don't miss millions of turnover right under their nose for too long. After the congress hearing i would think they have nothing to worry about so long as everything is in order.  They need to be able to deal with such scrutiny if they want their base in the US

i just found a deposit that i made 3 days ago :D

I had hoped this would not happen.

As much as I am disappointed that legislation and regulation are being invited, fuck Cryptsy. Big Vern had a constant stream of complaints and this specific consequence clearly stated to him.

Cryptsy definitely deserves the lions share of criticism for endangering alt coin investments across the board. At best, the response from Cryptsy has been half way between total apathy and begrudging acknowledgement of the issues.

All alt coin investments are now at risk. Thanks Cryptsy! Hope you made it rain BTC stashed on USB thumbsticks in the Vegas champagne rooms!

I am fully withdrawing to the first exchange to offer SBC.

Already moving the bulk of my other investments to BTER.

I deposited a BTC in Coins-e and it never showed up.  It's been 5 days, no word, no contact, nothing.

So what happens if Cryptsy gets shut down and your coins confiscated?  You think you're having a hard time dealing with Cryptsy, try dealing with the US gov't.  Seriously a stupid move IMO.

Coins-e has a bad reputation for having absent developers and several coins in their system being on the wrong blockchain.  I am still waiting on 10k PXC that I withdrew Sept. 6th...

I can't believe I'm reading this.. I imagine it's the same people that were once crying out for deregulation and getting one over on the bankers who are crying to the regulators over a technical mishap.

Do you guys genuinely believe that "BigVern" is filling his pockets? Has there been one actual instance where funds have disappeared and not been returned?

The people behind Cryptsy aren't anonymous from some foreign land where no one knows.. they are perfectly open, talented American's who are innovators with a start up that has expanded at an alarming rate and is getting quite a lot to handle. As a result they have informed us all they are under a lot of strain but are remedying it - taking on more staff/servers and spending every hour god sends.

Can you comprehend the strain on a system that suddenly had an influx of 400% registrations with magnitude of sales increasing exponentially.. with the selection of currencies which they offer, I'm surprised that there wasn't more down time. They could more than handle the customer service demands at the start of November but with all the new registrants who many of which are late adopters and are inexperienced with trading, currencies and many of whom are clearly not suited to it and encounter problems.

On EVERY single instance I've now heard of where a balance disappears after creating a sell order the following simple solution works - purchase the smallest amount of coins possible, create sell order, cancel sell order and wow - the coins are back in your balance. If any problems arise rather than sending a ticket - check the forum https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/discussions/topics/44674/page/last#post-107199 and it will undoubtedly have happened to someone else and there will be a solution.

I'd just like to say thanks to Cryptsy and the team behind it - you have developed an excellent site with a remarkable range of currencies. I'm sure if the people complaining had the opportunity to sit down and talk with you and think logically they'd appreciate you a lot more.

I couldn't agree more with your analysis and statement. I have used Cryptsy since I started into crypto-currency and that determination was made only after researching other exchanges, some of which no longer exist. Unfortunately patience is like common sense today, it isn't very common.

I DO NOT support this at all.

Horrible way to go about getting Paul's attention. Do you honestly believe having the Florida AG's office poking it's nose around a crypto exchange is a good idea?! Seriously?! With all the bs the government is pulling against these things right now? Unbelievable.

Cryptsy trading stresses me the **** out at times but this will not fix anything.

Ulterior motives?

ASSHOLE.

Now we're going have more regulations. People like you are fucking part of the problem. Fucking asshole.

Intent does not matter. Effect does. Cryptsy is causing people to lose money and lose out on opportunity, and that is what matters.

It is great people think BigVern is a likable guy, but negligence is clear and fraud reasonably suspect---even if people think he is swell. It is negligence or fraud. I am not aware of anyone having definitive proof in either direction.

Ultimately, it is Cryptsy itself that is responsible for this situation.

I am sad to see that anyone went to the AG---and do not support that action---but apologists like yourself only encourage misbehavior like this from BigVern.

He is bullshitting.  There is no way he drove to Tallahassee and was able to get a sitdown with the Asst AG unless he has some inside connections (which I doubt).  And on top of this, this issue would not merit their attention. Florida is home to the most online identity theft anywhere in the US and the State AG has much to contend with, it does not have time/resources to look into a virtual commodity exchange.  Crypsy does not deal in US Dollars, and crypto-exchanges exist under the jurisdiction of no official regulators on the local and federal levels.  Outside of breaking any of the State/Federal small business regulations for IT companies, there is nothing that can be done here without first passing some legislation or an executive order.  

What an asshole

I am cool with the complaint to the AG. BigVern should have known better. he should have closed off new registrations, removed low volume crap coins, removed bots and autosell. Beef up the servers then reinstate all the shit I just mentioned he should have removed.

I can understand a little bit of lag here and there, but when money goes missing for hours/days/weeks, that is unacceptable.

This is the price we pay i guess for trading alts making 1000% plus returns in 24 hours.

For the love of baby satoshi please Cryptsy GET IT TOGETHER!!!

You've got to be SHITTING ME!!! WHY?? WHY??

You know how much shit I have on cryptsy? Now I have to worry whether or not this place is going to be shut down randomly and my coins gone?
Fuck you coinhumper ... rocking the boat for no reason except to be some kind of people's hero? I really don't get it..

Have you registered?

This guy really deserves a punch in the face.
There is voicing a concern and working your way to a solution and then there is acting like a whiny little bitch and throwing a temper tantrum.

Guess which one you are!

And by the way you accomplished NOTHING by doing this that will help you get your BTC.

You sir disgust me.

+1

Do you have the block chain info/transaction id or any proof? Nothing is traded in usd on crypty as of yet so to the US government its just a website for trading coins for coins.

Personally I would never have 63 btc dedicated to cryptsy in any form or shape.

You need to get updated on recent developments in the cryptoworld. https://www.casascius.com/ just got shut down by finsec even though he wasn't dealing with USD. Same thing will happen to Cryptsy if they catch wind of what is going on.

http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2013/12/casascius/

Oh although you may never have 63 BTC tied up in Cryptsy, alot of people have that and more in Cryptsy. What is considered alot is all subjective. to some 1 BTC is a fortune and to others its pocket change. In the end Cryptsy needs to be accountable to what is going on.

Tokyo your equally retarded for supporting this morons course of actions.

Cryptsy is bringing this on itself. Big Vern promises the site will get better routinely, yet it worsens daily. People are losing trades, have lost money from their accounts but Cryptsy grinds on, adding more trading pairs, promising everything is okay.

It's not okay. Vern should shut the place down, fix the damned platform so it functions properly, then open again for business.

Fact, everyone wants Cryptsy to work. It is the only alt exchange with any volume.

The model, however, does not work and it will collapse unless something special happens over the next day or two (and I don't mean Big Vern tweeting something about a server)

NB: The mods there, Mullick and BitJohn have always been fantastic. They are nice guys, helpful and likable. Just want to point that out to balance my comments about the platform (software related I guess) and 2 of the people that have so far helped run it.

So you suggest I let Cryptsy FORCE me to buy COL a week ago so that I could withdrawal BTC. Yes that's right, I log in into my account and have a negative balance on COL. I need to make a payment to someone on this board in BTC and I can't because if you have a negative balance, withdrawals are not allowed. So now I am holding some dogshit COL because of Cryptsy.

Thats not all,

- I am missing BTC
- can't buy anything
- run the risk of having my withdrawals/deposits stuck in confirmation hell
- Can't login due to Error: Session Error Code 7 Detected bullshit.

If Cryptsy goes to shit and gets shutdown, resulting in losses to all involved, then GOOD, its a life lesson learned. Deal with it and move on.


If you want to know what a retard is, go look in the mirror.

So deal with the situation like an adult and work with cryptsy's team as they handle they're massive growth LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

Or whine and throw a tantrum like OP and make stupid emotional decisions that bring you no closer to a solution.

Your justification is, if I'm having a problem then I want to shut down the service for everyone and everyone takes a loss?

Instead of waiting like the rest of us for these technical problems to be resolved.

You guys didn't even give the guy a proper chance to resolve these issues and deal with the growth.

First Cryptsy is your friend and everything is awesome when all is working fine. Then at the first hint of an issue you toss the guy under the bus like hes trying to personally rip you off.

Pathetic.

This is a no-no ... very stupid move for all.

Hope you get what you diserve.

Pin

Yeah totally, no one realizes that Cryptsy is purely non-profit and generates no revenue at user expense when security, speed, and stability are compromised.

OP has 63 BTC worth of coins in limbo. At todays price thats approx. $50,000 USD. Its been 7 days. Tell me, how long should he have waited? 2 weeks, 2 months, a year?

How long would you wait? How long should everyone wait for Cryptsy to get it together before we start taking other courses of action?

you should only speak for yourself and not FOR EVERYONE ELSE. I am not the only one who is upset at the situation. I don't want the service shut down but I will not tell another person that they don't have the right to file a complaint, especially when they have a significant amount of coins missing. What is done is done, if OP really did file a complaint.

I can't do nothing but wait, I'm sure everyone else is in the same boat.

I know Cryptsy is having issues at the moment even my account is messed up with missing sell orders at this time but going to the authorities is not going to solve our problems and help us all get our missing coins back. I would wait for support to answer all the problems we have that is the correct procedure is it not?

Thats Retarded, Sir.

I didn't realize it HAD ONLY BEEN 7 DAYS!!!

A little bit of patience goes a long way. Once again filing complaints and whining like a baby on the forums is not getting you any closer to solving Crypsty's technical issues.

Instead the situation has been blown out of proportion and may cause harm to "innocent bystanders", and you are supporting this course of action.

you may have just fucked us all

ok here is the problem: You dont like cryptsy for a reason of your ow
Solution: If you dont like cryptsy, dont use it..


I fixed it for you..

atleast we know coinhumper is s narc and to just not deal with him,   he made something that was a small problem for some and blew it into something big just to show he has some epenis or something, that is very sad.

j



p.s.  and dont think you were doing it for other people no one asked you to, i know i didnt ask you to over react for no reason.

He really jumped the shark on this one...

OP... did you submit a ticket? You never say if you did or not.

OP, you are a fucking idiot.

Cryptsy going down will be bad for us all as anyone who were interested in any coins will be scared away and will set us back for quite some time.

Hilarious how people fail to realize that BigVern is Gandhi combined with Jesus and Martin Luther King. He played no part in this injustice.

LOL im sure you didnt have anything to do with that conclusion.

And with a name like "Coinpumper" too.. ironic.

Coinhumper you are a jerk. It's people like you that fuck up delicate situations....

Waaah! The site is temporarily down, let's go and sue everybody until they make crypto exchanges illegal.

You are the guy who who would press the fire alarm in a hookah lounge for no reason other than that people are smoking.

For the record FinCEN would disagree with you.  That being said going to a regulator at this point is just stupid however FinCEN certainly believes it has oversight.
http://fincen.gov/statutes_regs/guidance/html/FIN-2013-G001.html

Well then, I stand corrected.  There is a federal agency (FINCEN) with oversight of virtual currency to virtual currency exchanges.  That said, Cryptsy should be well aware of this and vice versa about FINCEN and Cryptsy.  That is a matter outside of the state level, and so I don't believe anything can be done by the State AG other than referring it upwards.  I am not a lawyer, but so far nobody has really pointed out the fact that Crypsy is likely not breaking any FL state laws, and therefore this stunt that was pulled (whether it happened or not), will likely have no direct consequences to Cryptsy.

+1 CoinHumper is an SA troll that has no foundational understanding of how Cryptos actually work.

I've had problems with Cryptsy, they've responded to all my tickets, and are working diligently to get everything working where it needs to be.

People like CH have no class, and do not belong in this high risk space. 

Agree to disagree. On one point, i feel like cryptsy has probably done nothing wrong, but on the otherhand i don't have 63 btc in limbo. If i did, i might be singing a different tune and so would you.

And They have publicly stated they are doing everything they need to.

This certainly won't help you getting your coins back.

OP must rank among the 10 dumbest assholes on the planet.

One sure way to eff the whole thing up for everyone is to run to Mommy and Daddy.

You are trading cryptocurrency on an unregulated exchange and when you have a problem you think the answer is the State Government of Florida?!?!?

Thanks, now Cryptsy will get shutdown and all of our coins will be gone or worthless with nowhere to trade them.

Way to act on your temper-tantrum you dummy.

God this sucks. If cryptsy is taken down, or heavily taxed, every single cryptocurrency will plummet in value.

But at least I can smile knowing that OP's coins will be worthless as well.

What about a good chunk of other people that dont have the equipment or the money to play around with BTC? Alt coins are our only means of enjoying the crypto community.

Everyone of my orders has been filled at cryptsy, doesn't mean they will in the future but they have so far.

Coinex doesn't make a market in PXC which has been my most profitable coin, but I can leave that one at cryptsy and more the others over.  Do they have an autosell option at coinex?

Thanks - trying to login now.  Most important thing in these early days is to spread our risk.  However, I can't login to coinex with my account and I can't get the email recovery password.

I saw this coming, got most of mine out.. I am honestly concerned that they have not addressed the site or the complaint today at all...

If Cryptsy fails all the shitcoins will be gone.

CryptoAve opens soon so there will be another market for LTC, DGC, SRC, ARG, PPC and of course USD.

Trading problems have been noted in the past 24 hours on Cryptsy...

I wonder why...

http://www.thebitcoinchannel.com/archives/30074

This busybody CoinHumper has not spoken to anyone. He seeks only for attention.

What a jerk move. This is the worst thing you could have done for the cryptocommunity.

You have to realize man... to Cryptsy... one little baby missing a few BTC is not even or nor should it be on the radar of a company of this potential.

To address this pathetic temper tantrum would take away from they're credibility.

This is all complete bullshit anyway, do you not think they know about this board? i mean seriously i'm sure most agencies are aware of BTC thus aware of this site thus well aware of cryptsy.

I very much doubt since they are applying for the ability to trade USD that anything is out with the accounting.  

They are simply NOT up to the job of running this kind of site, and have not hired anyone else to fix it for them. This is the main problem.  Besides is any one site able to shoulder the load of the entire alt trading community??

We need a decentralized exchange anyway, what is the point of having decentralized currency on a totally centralized exchange?

Cryptsy has served alts well and taken them far, this is the end of the road for cryptsy, time for the next stage of the evolution.

As to how we need to go about starting a decentralized exchange..............well let's talk about that.

Before that takes place we need several sites like cryptsy, all eggs in one site is crazy.

Stink, are you the FLO Stink?

If so, are you abandoning the coin, or remaining a devotee?

(you made me quite a bit of money just by following your trading pattern)

What you quite simply have done there is put in your thought and opinions as facts to the Attorney General. Paul Vernon has a solid legal team and legal investors aka Cryptsy Ken (https://twitter.com/cryptsyken).

One may suggest then that your conversation was completely biased and the fact you had to "lecture" someone on the topic gives your argument zero validity.

One may suggest that when the AG finds nothing wrong, that Cryptsy looks at its options for prosecuting you for defamation and harassment.

He's missing a lot of money, so your jibes mean jack sh*t. I'm sure you'd be crying if it was you.

Maybe the BTC/alt community should offer its help to Cryptsy. It's a smart exchange, just had a bad path lately - partly made by itself.

So that means money and expertise to save an exchange that has until about 2 months ago been a fantastic resource.

i've seen no real evidence that Cryptsy Ken is real, or a lawyer.

should i be taking my coins off the site? this doesn't make me feel too good to have much on there right now.

You can try but after confirmation your Withdrawals will be on pending..
I have 2 for a few hours, I trust Cryptsy but I trust more my cold wallets

I agree, this guy should definitely be pursued legally.  Clearly he is not really interested in getting his BTC back, which I believe is a lie anyway.  He maliciously wants to disrupt Cryptsy's business and seems to be succeeding.  Even if the case wasn't won at least it would teach the fool a lesson with $10k's of legal defense..

As a general rule, you should never have a large number of coins on any exchange unless you intend to use them right away (or can afford to lose them). Too many things can happen to them.

The pending withdrawal issue on Cryptsy is a bit worrisome however (I am getting it too).

You can say all you want now, you have already taken the actions.  Even if your story about going to the AG is false, your malicious commentary on this thread would be enough for legal action.  You should have known that would be an obvious outcome of your actions.

Cryptsy has been registered as an MSB in Florida since June so they have dealt with FINCEN.

cryptsy has been broken for 2 weeks or more, seriously this place is not the answer to what we need.  I am waiting for withdrawals already over 5HOURS today still sitting on pending. That's after the pain in the ass of negative balances for hours until the site just refunded me some of my lost coins.

2 weeks + is not acceptable. Imagine facebook down for 2 weeks, google down for 2 weeks. Any internet site down for 2 weeks or broken for 2 weeks is just not what people are used to with the internet.
They don't even both really keeping anyone informed, their PR is terrible.  

They have cost people a lot of money and they have not taken the steps people have suggested on here to make things better.

The place is a stressful nightmare to deal with , but right now we have no other option.

How about some kind of crowd funded new exchange? surely someone could step up and start another cryptsy and another crypsty ...why is there just one?

Why don't they clone their own site to another domain since they can not scale this site it would seem.

Decentralized exchange is the only good way forward. Cryptsy has done as best it can but it is still broken and will not get better as more crypto traders turn up.

For now clone a ton of cryptsy sites ffs then lets look towards decentralizing the exchanges.

I don't want to see them shut down, and i can't see that happening at all. However they are not able to cope or seemingly find any solution. They have this stupid affiliate thing still running when they can't even cope with the volume they have now.

While I may not agree 100% with Cryptsys outlook and way of doing business, I think you are either 1 - jealous or 2 - just an idiot that has nothing better to do then try and piss people off. You sure are doing a good job of making yourself look like a real douchette though.

I tried withdrawing just 3 LTC an hour ago as a test and it's still pending. Yes I did confirm in email. I'm concerned the price of LTC is dropping and am trying to go back to fiat for the next few days but this is holding me up. I have more to pull out but don't feel like funds going into limbo like these 3 LTC did. At least I've managed to pull most of my holdings off Cryptsy since the site started acting weird but this is still quite frustrating.

Instead of partying in Vegas, Vern needs to be fixing his site. I used to love that place but ever since the redesign a few weeks ago everything has been messed up with what appears as little being done to fix it. Also not sure filing with the AG was the best idea, but if these issues were dealt with instead of leaving everyone hanging then these people wouldn't have to complain...

To say Cryptsy is on a bad path is a retarded statement.

They have contributed more to the crypto community then your punk ass ever will.

The valuation that people put on money differentiates greatly depending on they're own personal situations.  For myself, I would of waited to let Cryspty resolve this technical issue.... but obviously the OP has never touched any money of this nature before and freaks the fuck out like 50k means something.

GROW UP! Cryptsy is not trying to steal your chump change you pathetic, ignorant baby!

second day running I've tried to gamble a few LTCs from my Cryptsy account - and the second day running they have sat in "pending", meaning my coins arrive too late, and I have to go to the bother of proving to another party that I sent them.

I should have learned the first time, I guess.

" retarded, punk ass, pathetic, ignorant baby!"

Some people are just hard to take serious when they use statements like this.

"but obviously the OP has never touched any money of this nature before and freaks the fuck out like 50k means something"

50k means 50k. Truth be told, the amount doesn't matter. OP was/is missing coins he just is taking action to get them back.

http://wasahiro.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/mfwpeoplearebutt-hurtbecausebastianmadehisownchannel_de1a8ea305cc935d33f8aa5c94a3f718.jpg

I am taking my coins off the site, but it has 0 to do with the reasons of the OP.. i just do not like the stability and transfers from the site missing etc... sooo i will keep them on my wallet until these issues are cleared up.

I do think its wrong to continue trading with the issues the site has though...

It might be hard to accept the truth sometimes..

The fact of the matter is that the OP overreacted to the extreme and you endorsed his hysterical behavior and emotional response as if it was a rational course of action, harming the industry in the process..

Your the one that has lost credibility by supporting this behavior, shame on you!

As someone without a dime in cryptsy, this thread is hilarious.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Rc8k_D3yYoE/Tw4IyOKMysI/AAAAAAAAAls/awgasVzJMfA/s320/Stephen-Colbert-Popcorn.gif

Count me in with the OP.  I, too, am awaiting the release of my BTCs.  Filed a support ticket.  No response except the canned response that doesn't mean sh!t.  So, I am just supposed to wait?  What, like a victim?

Quoting oxymoron (sic)

"To say Cryptsy is on a bad path is a retarded statement.

They have contributed more to the crypto community then your punk ass ever will.

The valuation that people put on money differentiates greatly depending on they're own personal situations.  For myself, I would of waited to let Cryspty resolve this technical issue.... but obviously the OP has never touched any money of this nature before and freaks the fuck out like 50k means something.

GROW UP! Cryptsy is not trying to steal your chump change you pathetic, ignorant baby!!"


You like using that word "retarded" to your betters. Yet, you can't even construct a sentence that is not littered with simple-minded assertions, cliches and teenage insults.  I don't know you and I don't want to know you. You're a ridiculous little man with no firm grip on the situation. By all means wear your idiocy as a badge of pride, and seek out other idiots to confirm the falsehood that you're a bright spark with his finger on the pulse.

I just hope to God that you never sit on a jury.
 

You like using that word "retarded" to your betters.

This statement doesn't even make sense. Please try again.

How can I get mine back?  A withdrawal and a deposit are missing from both my balance and my pendings.

Currently waiting on 17btc worth of coins to show on my account. It has been 4 days, but im just being patient. They are super busy.

Because it's really, really, really hard to build and maintain a good trading platform.
It's even harder to make it secure.
It's even harder to make it scale well when a bunch of new users join.

Even if you have millions of dollars to spent on the project and an experienced team, it's still really hard.

Hopefully we'll see some more exchanges pop up soon but I wouldn't hold my breath. There are simply not that many people in the world who have the technical / business / legal expertise to build a first class trading platform (which is what everybody seems to be demanding).

Personally I think cryptsy have been doing an amazing job of keeping things together, but maybe that's because I'm a software developer and I know how hard they must have been working to just to keep everything running over the last month.

I certainly agree that missing coins are a serious issue that needs to be resolved. And I even support OP taking whatever actions he feels necessary to try to retrieve those coins. But I really can't understand why there is so much hate for cryptsy here.

Just imagine for a second that cryptsy is gone, where are you going to trade your alt coins?

There is no other alt trading site that can handle 1/10th of the users cryptsy is currently supporting. (plz correct me if I'm wrong).

Well you can wait for Cryptsy to resolve they're technical issues and accommodate the explosion of growth and server load they have experienced like the rest of us....

Or... might as well call the president bro! it's time for action

I believe you are correct there.

However why can cryptsy not clone their site a few times, let's have 10 cryptsy sites if needed.  If you can't easily scale this lets just replicate it for now.  Is it not as straight forward as this?

Crypsty ran great with 5000 members, i suspect their platform now can run great with 15k-20k  if it is impossible to scale it to 100k  let's just have several exchanges for now. It's a messy solution but really it can't be worse than it is now.

I've seen delays with cryptsy transfers but never an outright failure to transfer. Are you sure you guys didn't just see a delay?

Do they show in pending or is there any evidence of their existence in your account?  There isn't with mine.  If that's a common problem right now then I will be patient, but if not then I'm asking for advice as to what to do next.

Has there been delays of over 6 hours on withdrawals before??? this is the worst as yet for me on the withdrawal side of things.

I experienced the same problem. No record of transaction.

Submitted a ticket and it was resolved the next day>

Cancelled phone call to Obama.

probably. the thing is, i haven't seen any proof of any of these allegations. doesn't mean they aren't true, just haven't seen proof. I for one don't trade on cryptsy because of all the problems. It is what it is. Doesn't mean i'll join in the fud attack. Last time i talked to Paul he was bringing in an additional programmer to help him iron the kinks out. All cryptsy employees have been working full time to sort this out. they get about 1500 support tickets per day. not enough man hours right now to keep up, but they are working hard to rectify the situation(atleast that's what they've told me.)

I just had a chat with Vern on Skype, and decided to dig a lil', here's the convo::

[8:34:09 PM] Vernon: I will be giving users a self-audit button tonight.   also there will be better reports coming out for you guys

[8:34:14 PM] ME: Can I actually make a few suggestions while I got you?

[8:34:18 PM] Vernon: sure

[8:37:21 PM] ME: Each coin page - that left column = so many inefficiencies for load balancing 50K+ users in different regions. I don't think anyone cares to see 94 pairs fluctuating while on their chosen coin page to trade. Those pages (imo) should only have the order books for that coin - that's it - so much less load.

Second - I don't know who did your algo/matching engine but buying/selling needs 3 clicks, many popups, no grouping of orders, can't buy into big walls, only a few trades a minute, orders pop up in opposite column before showing in proper column, much delay.. I think new servers is great but you guys really need to optimize your data layout per page and the way your engine/algo works.

[8:39:56 PM] ME: Perhaps you're already doing all this, and if so - kudos, I think you are currently in a do or die situation with the market and accepting new users while not being able to keep up with current userbase needs is asking for a lot of trouble. I'm not sure what the sequence to fix all this is and I'm sure your hands are full so this is just me pretending to be in your shoes and prioritizing what's most important - right now your infrastructure and PR are both kinda crumbling and you're a victim of your own success (good problem to have I suppose just hope it's temporary). Hope you don't mind this comment.

[8:42:18 PM] Vernon: yes, right now my main focus is trade engine.   I made a change yesterday which speeds it up quite a bit, but then the database had some issues today - that is the next thing that is getting upgraded (probably monday night)

[8:42:35 PM] ME: So YOU actually coded the engine?

[8:42:56 PM] ME: Do you have others working on it with you or just solo?

[8:43:01 PM] Vernon: The tickers on the left are probably the least load intensive, since they are just push notifications via broadcase

[8:43:05 PM] Vernon: *broadcast

[8:43:26 PM] ME: I see - so it's all engine lag - wow mate.

[8:43:44 PM] Vernon: I created the entire site as it currently is.   A new developer just started thursday, but it will likely take some time before he can jump into things

[8:43:51 PM] ME: Is there a huge dev. differentiating factor between you guys and say the gox/btc-e engine?

[8:44:20 PM] Vernon: Well, if you remember, the original Gox engine had some major lag itself.  sometimes several minutes.

[8:45:26 PM] ME: Yes true - so did BTC-e - however that was during huge pumps, and they only have one pair - your system is probably a lot more robust to be able to handle all the activity but as you see it's overloading for weeks even with your new servers and tweaks.

[8:46:15 PM] Vernon: There are a few redesigns I'm working on, but these things take a bit of time to build and test

[8:46:20 PM] ME: Just trying to gage what/how big to go with you guys, have a lot of reserves, a little afraid to trade, do you actually see your site/engine being as fast as gox/btc-e ever or are you in totally unchartered waters re how to proceed and what the outcome may be?

[8:47:00 PM] ME: I have owned a media/dev company and run 40+ sites so I admire what you've done and respect the challenge, not digging at you hope you see this as a positive critique.

[8:47:44 PM] Vernon: eventually it will be extremely fast, I'm working on migrating the data storage for the order books into a much faster storage mechanism

[8:48:29 PM] ME: Cool, are you guys also buying tons more servers and is that also a big differentiating factor now compared to others or does it not matter after a certain point and it's all engine from there..?

[8:50:28 PM] Vernon: it's both software and hardware upgrades.  We can only do so much by throwing more hardware at it

[8:50:30 PM] ME: If that's too sensitive, a better way to phrase my question :: Do you have a timeline re your response to the market or is it an ongoing battle with uncertainty re next needs hardware/software wise?

[8:51:05 PM] ME: This convo is actually very productive and think many need to read this - do you mind if I post the latter part of it on the boards where people are freaking out?

[8:51:21 PM] Vernon: I am consulting with people who have designed large complex systems before, to determine where our bottlenecks are

[8:51:37 PM] Vernon: I would like the system to be able to handle 1m trades a day at least in every market.

[8:51:57 PM] Vernon: You may post it.   Just don't post my Skype id.  ;)

[8:52:34 PM] ME: That would be dreamy, I would like it to instantaneously fill my orders and eat through walls like btc-e/gox, once you're there, you guys are going to win a big market race, I wish you best of luck and don't mind if I nudge you in the near to check in. Have a great day!

[8:54:28 PM] Vernon: You are on my list now, so I'll likely respond to any questions.  :)

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I won't lie, I do feel a bit better re Cryptsy's near future.

 After laying off for two weeks, or there about, I did many deposits, trades, and withdrawals on the 12th and 13th (the last two days) to get some of over 2 dozen crypto types that I hold re-balanced, and add a few to the mix, and all without any serious problems.


 But I did take notes on all trades and deposits, and withdrawals, just in case, just before clicking to execute. I also copied and pasted the open orders to notepad as soon as they displayed. Just as precautions due to all the system stress. But it wasn't needed (my notes). Everything worked okay. Still I was careful, and had notes just in case I needed them to back track any issues that could have arose.


 One deposit (btc) got delayed a while. No biggie.
 
 I incurred a few slight trading delays during peak hours in the PM, and one withdrawal of Prime that didn't go through the first time (2nd time it did) and was then sent straight home without further delay. Also some partial fills didn't display when they should but again no biggie.


 In the early PM things are much more busy, and system lagged more. For about 30 minutes I even lost contact at around 6PM CST.



 But off peak hours system is humming great! = hint!!!
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 It's way better than two weeks ago! WAY BETTER. On 12-12 and 12-13-13 things went well enough, reminded me of prior to the late November madness...


 But then I don't leave lot's of coin there parked either. Nor it seems do I have the severe difficulty that others have reported. Nor do I leave substantial coin online anywhere for any length of time.


 Sure I had deposit delays two weeks ago when all this first started. And one cancelled trade a while back that took hours to re-appear after it vanished when cancelled (the coins). But other than what is mentioned here it's again working smooth during the early AM before most are awake, and after 11PM too for that matter.


 During the work day it was okay too. Just around the time most get home from work till they go to bed was the system seriously straining and lagging to any larger degree (hint).


 So I stopped almost all trades for the last two 2 weeks. And finally dipped my toes in. I waited until one deposit would display at Cryptsy, then after it did the next one was sent. Repeated that many times. Many different types of coin. Same on trades, I took notes and waited before moving on to the next trade.

 I also keep as few Cryptsy tabs/windows in my browser open as possible now to avoid stressing the system with any trades, etc. that I place. That may help others?

 

 Anyway the system is now okay off peak hours, running good. At least for myself it was then. Only peak times was their a bit of lag, and even communication disconnection for about half an hour at 6PM CST on the 12th.

 

Caveat emptor - let the buyer beware!

yes.


 And usually they seem to go through, but delayed. Obviously some claim otherwise but eventually all mine clear on their own without support. I just patiently wait and I don't worry about it. One way or another it will all get fixed.

 When all this started one deposit took 12 hours (2 weeks ago),  for some other folk it's taken day(s) to finally get deposits/withdrawals through.

 Don't fret. Take notes, get some sleep. Don't worry Their not scamming us. Just overwhelmed system some of the time.

 I made many deposits and then after done trading many withdrawals the last two days. All worked. Only one deposit delay, and one failed attempted withdrawal that a 2nd attempt solved quickly.

 Best to trade during off Peak hours. See my prior post for better times. Likely transfers to and from work better then too.

 It's obvious their not 'ripping people off'. Or at least that certainly appears to be the case on this end. And it's obvious their support staff is overwhelmed with thousands of tickets, many repeat requests and not enough data so their slowed way down in responding when so little information is given. Read that somewhere here on another thread?


 Don't worry. Seems it all keeps working out. Sadly some fear and panic far too quickly. Relax. Chill. It will work out.



Caveat emptor - let the buyer beware!

No, nothing on account shows. I contacted support but they are super busy I guess. I would like to start trading it all, but shit happens.

Oh let me quote myself and add FUCK YOU CRYPTSY. (look at markets right now) Still haven't sent me my LTC and now I'm taking losses. (I have more than 3 LTC to get out of there)

Sorry if I'm coming off harsh but this is ridiculous and I feel really bad for the guys with a bunch of BTC in limbo as they're beginning to take massive losses as well.

EDIT: I'm going to try a BTC withdrawal and see if I have any luck. Would really like to get back into fiat tonight..

Just wanted to give a resolved issue.  I put in an order for devcoins with litecoins about 12 hours ago, and the litecoins disappeared and the devcoins never showed up. Luckily after doing a self audit a few minutes ago, the litecoins came back. I did lose out on the buy price of the devcoins, but i am happy that the money was found and my issue was resolved. I completely agree that cryptsy is doing the best they can with the increased volume.. those who file government reports... i curse you to forget your wallet passwords.

heaters gonna hate

cryptsy ftw I never had problems, always smooth transactions.

I have lost 2,500 FST on deposits and trades, the FST just disappear into thin air  :'(

Well after 5+ hours the LTC finally processed and sent. Now I'm still waiting for the BTC :\

As of this morning all of my Cryptsy issues are solved.  Thank you Cryptsy.

+1

As above.
OP, Until you post proofs you should be considered just a troll.

Criptsy please put your shit together or you will lose most of your customers

Happened to me with some bbq coins at one point, they did show back up after some stuff was cleared. try running an audit on your account under balances.

Ditto.

Caveat Emptor!

NEGATIVE

They're still hiding >2400 SXC i deposited to them over 24hours ago. Since that time the price has almost halved, while I would've had opportunities to sell them elsewhere in the meantime.

Anyone else missing their GDC's ? Seems like the coin vanished from the site all together, no balance, not listed on trade etc

This thread is funny.  If you suspected Fraud from this company, your first step would be to file a criminal complaint with the police that would investigate and then refer the case to onward.  Alternatively, you would contact a lawyer to advise you on your next steps and actions.  If you truly had 63 BTC "lost" on Cryptsy, you could afford such an attorney.  You would not directly take your case or complaint to the Attorney General (assistant or otherwise).  Furthermore, even if you were able file such a complaint, kudos' to Cryptsy and Florida for you being able to do so.  Have you tried doing such things with BTC-E, MCXnow, or others?  Cryptsy posts their office information and ownership directly on the website.  Doesn't seem like such a scam, or if it is, it's a really good one that seems to be costing them more than it is earning.

Secondly, Cryptsy seems to be keeping everyone in the loop with what is going on.  I get tweets almost every day of what is happening and the issues that are being experienced, including the huge backlog of support requests that they are getting.  It's not like they are being oblivious to them or not responding.  You can't say the same about some other exchanges.

Finally, this is the wild west at the moment in time for Cryptocurrency.  Companies and sites supporting Cryptocurrencies are going through explosive and unprecedented growth.  You have to EXPECT these type of issues and make your own personal safeguards and judgments.  If you can't stomach the loss you should not be in this market at this time.  I've had minor losses (MCXFees) and huge gains on minimal investments (MasterCoin.org).  I wish I had invested more on my successes but I took the risk that I could stomach to lose and/or gain from it.  You should be treating the Exchanges the same way, Cryptsy or otherwise.

--Perry
aka NeonRonin

PS - I have no official affiliation with Cryptsy, though I do have a vested interest.

 ;D

So you have a grand total of 3 trades in the lowest vol coin. Why you speak?


Withdrawals are very lag and some, such as MEC, are not withdrawing the proper amount as requested.

TOS have to be legal. Cryptsy TOS is only their opinion. Only a court can decide, Ask Google.

Lost $50 of BTC to Cryptsy just a few minutes ago. Placed a Buy Order for an altcoin, then canceled it after a few minutes. Now I have no altcoins and my BTC was never recredited to my account. Is this where the infamous "waiting" comes into play with Cryptsy or should I submit a support ticket?

I have read two instructions to handle this.  One of them worked for me, the other I did not try.

1.  Place an order too large to be filled.  Cancel out of it.
A.  Place a tiny order.  Then cancel it.

I tried option 1.

Thanks for the advice. I just received the BTC back without doing anything. Sadly it took over an hour and now the window to get into the altcoin I wanted is gone. Oh well, at least I know what to expect from Cryptsy from now on lol.

Cryptsy now has an "Audit my Accounts" button on the Balances page.  I recommend anyone missing coins to try this.  They are also auditing accounts everyday it seems from the log on my Balances page.  Had some coins missing after a trade that didn't go through and they came back after the audit.  This is frustrating and it should be better, but its the way it is right now. 

I would rather trust Cryptsy than a foreign exchange that doesn't even have a name or face behind it. If coins go missing on one of those, good luck getting them back.

Cryptsy needs to simply hire some programers to fix the issues. Cryptsy is ALRIGHT at the moment with it's issues.
I trust the owner of Cryptsy,but not the code...

Actually, that is not true. In the United States, Private Citizens must report Fraud to the Attorney Generals Office in their State. Local Police Office's can't even take a report in most cases, they can only refer you to the Attorney General.

I was trading CENT/XPM pair:
buying @ 5 satoshiXPM and selling @ 6 satoshi XPM, in large volume.

The trading engine was faulty, this happened overnight on friday- saturday as they were apparently upgrading the engine.

I got up to 740 XPM profits, then all of a sudden my profits started disappearing, as if they were taking my money.

I looked more carefully in the page, and the trade history at the bottom claimed the trades were done INVERSELY to what my orders said:

Instead of buying 5 it would buy 6, and sell 5.

I sent several bug reports through out where my balance and orders were clearly visible.

This bug caused me to lose over 740 XPM, worth  around 3000$ at the time.

I've tried to report the bug in the IRC multiple times to ops and have not received a clear answer regarding this problem.

We are at least 4 to have had this exact bug, please contact me if you did as well.

night friday-saturday 13-14 dec.

I bought some XPM many days ago order went through but account never credited (many tickets later and session on irc still no solution), several coins I've deposited over last few days have never arrived.

hit that new audit button for a solution and for the effort lost some btc :'(

if i'd not made so many gains on cryptsy i'd leave now

I've already taken most my trading to other exchanges just using cryptsy to trade the shitcoins to btc/ltc...pretty much our only choice atm...but that'll change soon.

They keep witholding my deposits. Occasionally one comes through, more often then not they just keep them for themselves though. Bastards are probably dumping my coins to refund them after the exchange rate has plumitted enough.

Since I have a good deal of experience with Cryptsy I'll give my 2 cents.


Things have been a bit of a roller coaster ride over the last 3 weeks or so.  My biggest compliant was losing coins on canceled orders.  At one point I had 50,000+ GME vanish.  But, after doing the canceled order trick that forced an audit everything went back to normal.  Most of my other complaints are purely academic. The order matching is a bit of a kludge when it comes to how the user side interface works.  Order execution times are all over the place.  But, in the end it doesn't stop me from making money really.  I expect these things will get better in time.. and I'm not picky enough to move to a lower volume exchange over it.

As far as deposit go I've had very little problems here.  I've had to wait longer for deposit on some coins (up to 12 hours on some).  But, some coins really do need more confirmations from the network or you're playing with fire.  It would be nice if the pending deposits interface actually worked.

Then there is the random total outages.  Again it sucks, but I'm not all the concerned.  I think some of us have our expectations set a tad high here.  In the bigger scheme of things crypto currency markets are in their infancy in general.  It's a bit like the wild west during the gold rush in the 1800's.  We're all very lucky to be seeing this come to life and the future holds some really exciting things.

I use Cryptsy multiple times a day and while there have been many issues, they've all eventually been resolved.

It's frustrating missing out on some good trades but these reactions are a little silly.

Yes, you are right, but without going down the rat hole, it is unlikely that AG would do anything without guidance at the federal level and likely be FINCEN and also a Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3).  This is why you go to a lawyer as your first step and gather any evidence and submit an online or telephone report. After the initial report is filed, you will then be asked to provide evidence which usually takes several days to weeks and would happen well before having the opportunity to meet an AG.  And you ALWAYS want a lawyer present, as you can and likely will, incriminate yourself in some fashion.

why would you want to trade on an exchange where you can loose all your coins to a bug? I moved to coins-e, cryptotrade and bter. Cryptsy isn't fixing their bugs.

Why did you narc on cryptsy? Fuck you narc!

I hope they don't start fucking with usd.  Will invite too much additional bullshit and problems to the site.  Keep it crypto-only!

OP is a narc-ass bitch

OP is trying to ruin the fun for all of us

To above,

Cryptsy isn't fun if you are getting screwed - yet again I have just had a debit land on my account, this time after doing the self-audit!

I've hardly any trades on the acconut and I'm suddenly minus a small amount of LTCs - how the f--- can that happen?

Coins-e?  Seriously? 

Now they are holding deposits pending while the market crashes. I could have sold 5 hours ago.
So it's essentially confirmed they are using people's money to play the market.

They got caught in the down swing and now have frozen withdrawals.

So I lost a small fortune because of this.

There was a guy who did this before once. He is the guy that ran payment processing for adult sites all over the world.
He would lag on payouts for months while he used the money to play the markets. Christopher Mallick was the name. Paycom.

Exact same thing is going on here. I really liked the site and helped them earn some nice trade fees.
I supported them everywhere.
I guess this is the reward.

Stuff like this will kill this whole industry.

YoyodyneSystems I am sorry to hear that but you decided to use cryptsy knowing for many weeks that it's not working properly, trading engine is slow as hell and withdraws are blocked from time to time
For BTC and LTC there are other better and more reliable exchanges.
If you are long in alts, well.. higher risks > higher rewards, not always :-)

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Cryptsy has screwed up my balance (now negative for one currency instead of 0).  I created a support ticket, and they claimed the error had been fixed.  I replied them letting me know the problem had not been fixed.  Now the ticket is closed and no closer to getting a resolution.  My funds are now in limbo as I can't withdraw.  Not complaining, just saying the software is broken and they aren't handling things very well.

I had 0 bitcoin balance and 21000 zetacoin balance.

I did a trade to sell 3000 zetacoin.

After the trade my zetacoin balance goes to -5000 and my bitcoin balance goes to 1.25.

Self-audit is not correcting the situation.

I put in a support ticket and won't be trading anymore until it's fixed.

This doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in cryptsy.  Seems like the balances are just a number on the screen. Who's to say they actually have enough coins to back 100% of balances at any given time?

I'll be slowly trasferring all the coins I can into personal wallets after this.  Only way to be sure I actually own the coins.

i deposited 10 uno and sold 11 - no negative balance now.

lol ... wtf?

Every time I try and withdraw MNC, I get - Error: An Internal Error Has Occurred.

WTF? What the hell happened to this site. I have received no response from support.

Why are there so many people saying 'Cryptsy aren't responding to my support ticket'? How many support staff do you think they have?

They will be getting FLOODED with support tickets at the moment and each one just increases the backlog further.

They should definitely be making some sort of announcement to let people know what's going on, but there's no chance that responding to individual support tickets at the moment is particularly feasible.

I can't withdraw any coins. They have been pending for 2 days. I had a negative balance. Filled 5 support tickets. No response. This is bullshit. Craptsy needs to stop trading, fix their shit or get out of the Crypto market.

Cryptsy just added Dogecoin and whole bunch of different coins, HAHAHAHA. I honestly don't know what to think anymore.

I have worked in support.  If you have 5 support tickets, you are taking more than 5 times the time it takes to handle 1 ticket.  It will work better for you, and for everyone, if you file one with the detail.  "something is wrong" is not enough detail.  Then quit and wait. 

If you try to apply more pressure, they will respond by becoming more defensive, and not by fixing the problem.  It hurts everyone for you to put many support tickets in.  Don't do it.

+1


 It's extremely time consuming from what I read last week to figure out a vague request or such statement from customers.
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 This is severely adding to the time it takes to get assistance. And further causing even longer delays to assist the next in line.

 Worse still many of these tickets are not required as many things are fixed with some time, on their own, left to be allowed to self heal.



 I haven't needed to file a single ticket this month since I allow the system to catch up with my account, on it's own, when things lag, and I simply haven't had any drastic, nor serious problems (knock on silicon) after well over 1000 trades so far in 2013. I patiently wait if needed, and so far everything resolves itself in a little time. WTF people. Chill out. Get a grip. Let minor issues work out by themselves...


 Tonight I sent yet another deposit (one of many this month) of btc to my Crypsty account and it cleared fast, as usual. Of course I tossed in 0.00000001 to the bitcoin network transaction fee system (as usual) so that my transfer would hopefully be included in the next bitcoin block solved. It was, and in 30 minutes after sending that transfer/deposit it was cleared and ready for trading at Cryptsy. Now I mull over what to do there while I type this. Sales bargains galore while most are sleeping. ;)


 Since resuming trading on 12-12-13 after two weeks off, or there about, (due to a very overwhelmed system, and not desiring in major troubles...) I have deposited and withdrawn many times with many types of crypto. No serious problems at all, just minor delays at most. Of course I don't trade nor deposit/withdraw when the system is lagging such as during peak hours between 5PM to Midnight cst. (hint).


 Before rushing to fill out a support ticket give the situation a bit of time to resolve itself, if it can, by itself. You will be doing many a favor by doing just that!

  And if not then in clear, precise detail lay out the problem so they can fix it quickly and move on. Otherwise your not doing anyone any favors, but instead further harming others.

 Things like slow deposits or withdrawals should not be resulting in any tickets unless it's been over maybe 12 hours or at the very least!
Just in case anyone is not aware of the lag sometimes. Much the same for withdrawals. Get some rest, don't fret, usually it all works itself out, as it does for myself time after time, when those rare situations arise.

 Further, since the 12th of December I haven't had any delay that long. In late November though one deposit did take about 12 hours. That's the worst problem I ever encountered. That and severe lagging a couple of sessions at peak usage times when I needed to do something(s). But then I don't go rushing about like some crazed fool when the system is barely functioning with things such as but not limited to severe system lag unless it's quite mandatory, and if I do I am certainly quite careful and take a lot of notes on exactly what I am trading, etc.

 Relax, in time it will all work out. I don't believe for one second that Crypsy is doing anything wrong to cause anyone grief. It's just the way it is in the face of extreme exponential growth. Chill, relax, get over it. Things will work out. And even if not, then there is no since getting worked up over what can't be changed (right?).



BTW: About the worse thing one can do is what the OP did. I doubt Cryptsy, after all that's gone down since, will be in any rush to solve his situation, now that he responded the way he did and all! It's best to behave with tact and understanding than to jump to any irrational conclusions.


Caveat emptor - let the buyer beware!

You're an idiot. Go die in a pit.

A better question is "why is there a need to do support tickets in the first place?"

Those tickets were for 5 separate issues that appeared after each other over a 3 day span. I had to start a new ticket with a detailed explanation As new problems arose. Luckily the user mullick saw my posts here and took care of my problems. I would reccomend anyone having issues to PM him. 

I know they are having growing pains. But having to wait 2-3 days for a withdrawal to go through can cost you a lot of money in this kind of market.

Mullick is a good guy, and was always helpful on the forum at Cryptsy.

I'm not surprised he helped you out.

If Mullick is still around, then hopefully all hope for the site is not lost.

All hype from a disgruntler...he posted a link that was supposed to show the alleged complaint.Instead it led here TO ANOTHER complaint..
sad

On cryptsy.com I was robbed 8 BTC in 4 days!!!!!! >:(
When selling coins  balance BTC and LTC decreased!!!!! >:(
cryptsy.com scammers!!!!! >:(
thief should be in jail!!!! >:(
Vernon excuses not believe that he is correct, he's lying!!!! >:(
ГOPETЬ BEPHOHУ B AДУ ,БУДЬ OH ПPOКЛЯT!!!!

I watched 30% come off the value of some alts as it took 20 minutes to execute each order. would have taken 2 days to  do all my transactions.

Consumer law overrides any attempted disclaimer like this. Bad luck sunshine. Although they operate in a dodgy way listing unknown coins there is a reasonable level of functionality  that is expected from the customer.

The best you would win in court though is your fees.

Consumer law?  Where was the transaction?

If someone voluntarily transferred something that is not money to Cryptsy without any contract, you have no legal recourse.  If I mailed someone a gold ring then I cannot sue them for theft.

I'm sure Cryptsy has a good lawyer on board.  I love the service and I am patient in understanding that they are working out the kinks and I have faith in the service.

Lawyer's are about money, you pay them for what they know of the law, now a good lawyer will probably tell you that any crypto currency has a value as it describes itself to be and additionally what it is commonly known to be, i could take theft of doge coins to a court and prove it is a currency based on international trade and general community consensus of what it has turned into, if cryptsy does not handle everything as if it were dollars then they are F*****, plain and simple, btc is known worldwide as a currency and therefore any chain that models itself after it will be in its footsteps.
Now we have a blockchain involved and hundreds if not thousands of transactions coming into cryptsy on the same server, imagine a warrant for forensic analysis of hard drives at the time period such and such theft or mishandling happened, a company with physical asset's will be unable to resist such a search, just saying, bitcoin is far beyond a commodity despite what some would like it to be, it's descendants are in the same category whether it be doge, quark, fedora, iocoin, litecoin, whatever
If the attorney general in Florida wishes it could tear cryptsy apart, piece by piece until they either ruin it or get everything straightened out for the one consumer of a service that was ripped off (or not), for those of you that think States are retarded, think again, they have unlimited resources and act on what is in the best interest of their corporation.
Taxes, if Cryptsy does not pay taxes on their profit of each and every trade that they collect a percentage on then that will make a huge difference in where things go, imagine a bot collecting all information that can be seen to a user on Cryptsy, and then a secretary or data entry state employee running the numbers from the data collected, if you can imagine this, and realize that btc is(although in a gray area) a currency, then imagine what the state of Florida thinks (as a corporation) it is entitled to, and (ya a little more), what its obligation is to the consumer using a State licensed business (if Cryptsy f**** me I would sue Florida), Plain and simple= If Florida allows a business registered with them to operate outside of consumer protection than it (Florida) becomes liable for any wrong doing that it allowed under its watch.
Oh so much more to say, but lets not nitpick this, ride the wave while you can  :)

Here's an idea. Maybe if they had a website that actually worked in an acceptable fashion they wouldnt have so many support tickets to deal with. the amount of times the pages are unresponsive or take 30 seconds to load is unacceptable from any website. For this to be the case on a website solely dealing with time critical financial transactions is simply beyond belief. 

Surely the very least they should be doing is suspending all new signups until the site is up to speed, but no the problem seemingly gets worse every day. Instead of limiting signups and trying to provide an acceptable experience to the traders their greed motivates them to allow further overloading of the system.

OP you're an idiot

Cryptsy seems to have problems taking deposits in some coins, whilst others go through fine. I'm finding doge transactions appear quickly, but NET transactions ALWAYS go missing, I have to raise a support ticket for them (about 10 so far!), Cryptsy ignore many of the tickets, and the funds appear in account about a day later.

They need to cut down the range of coins they deal with to ones they can automate the processes on with some reliability. They will be totally overwelmed if (like me) people have to raise support tickets on every deposit.

ok i deposited 4.699 bitcoins in cryptsy 3 days ago and i has not showed up in my balance. i sent tickets and tried to contact big vern on twitter and i have had no reply (ticket number 79845). are people getting there any reply? because it seems to me like im being ignored. 5 grand worth of btc has just vanished and i have not been sent so much as a generic email... can anyone shed some light on the matter for me, i need these coins.

They will turn up. Cryptsy is an honest outfit.
Having said that - I would not send more than .5BTC in one transaction and I certainly would not keep more than 1BTC at any exchange for longer than absolutely necessary..

I don't see what the big deal is. I've traded on cryptsy since day one and never had a problem. I would say I've had up to 100 btc in coins in a single transaction and about 1000 btc in volume over the same time frame and did not lose 1 coin.

Is this a new and in regulated industry? Yes. Are people taking a huge risk getting involve in crypto at this time? Yes. If you want safety and can't afford risk leave cryptos and come back in 10 years when you can buy them through your broker I'm a 401k, otherwise accept the risk and do what you can to protect your self...

1. Send small amounts for coins ($ value) to reduce your loss of the are network issues.
2. Double check addresses. Most lost coins are because people typo an address.
3. Learn to read the block chain  do you can prove a transaction was sent and to where. It is your receipt. If you can't show a receipt then all your complaints is just whining.

With the checksum, a typo is highly unprobable (except for NXT and clones that doesn't have a checksum)

I myself haven't had any problem either, other than some odd delays in getting btc. now that i've ran my own exchange however, i know exactly what the delays were. sometimes when you move coins to the hotwallet, they get stuck and take a long time to confirm due to the sheer amount of transactions in the bitcoin network. that is something that affects all of bitcoin, not just cryptsy. it took about 2 hours last night to get some coins into the hotwallet at our exchange. this is something you can't hold cryptsy responsible for.

I have heard many tales of coins dissapearing, but it has never happened to me personally, so i can't really comment on that.

^ Asshats like you need to get out of Crypto for crying to the a State Government Authority. Just wow! Unregulated dollars? Are you a fucking moron? The OP must have much faith in the Federal Reserve and the corrupt banking system.  ::)

"jaw's dropping when they saw the volume and the amount of unregulated $$$???????? flowing through Mr. Vernon's site." Last time I logged in I did not see any dollars being exchanged. The bases of Crypto is to be unregulated and not centralized you moron, for the people by the people.

I have been trading on crypty since the birth and I have never had any issues of missing coins etc, only the exchanges lag and stalls and sometimes coins taking a while to deposit. Cryptsy is sometimes frustrating because of bugs in the system but fuck peeps it needs time to mature.

To the dumb fuck who is trying to get the State Gov involved by filing a complaint, what a fucking moron. You need to provide proof to what you are claiming before you blow your asshole up, carry on asshat.

Cryptsy kill the BOTs to decrease the server load and bring back chat please.

just wanted to let you all know that cryptsy sorted my missing deposit out and i have my coins. dont worry if you have missing coins im sure they will be with you soon. they just did not answer my emails because of the massive volume id say.

TLDR; Cryptsy has also stolen my money (yes, some of us buy coins with "real" money) and absolutely refuse to refund it, instead holding me to ransom.

Long story:
I was one of those who ended up with twice the amount of QRK I was supposed to have. I put in an order to purchase QRK (note, this is almost 2 months ago) and when I came back a while later, the exchange executed TWO buy orders for some stupid reason. I immediately Googled this and found numerous people complaining about Cryptsy "losing" or "stealing" their coins. So I thought I'd do the right things by NOT trying to exploit this bug and making more BTC out of this than I should and, instead, logged a job with Cryptsy. What an absolute stupid fuck of a decision that was... Cryptsy took over 30 days to get back to me. Now during this time the value of QRK dropped significantly, but I couldn't move my original amount out either because my BTC account was NEGATIVE and they prevent withdrawing any coins while any accounts are negative.

So after several back and forths with someone named Braeden (who just didn't quite get what the issue was), I got a response from Vern's lackey BitJohn. Unfortunately they all still believe I clicked a button to "Confirm" a second order - which I explained to them several times I didn't.


My response below might seem harsh, but you have to realize, this has been going on for 30 days at this point with numerous back and forth exchanges with the very unhelpful Braeden Long:


There has been no response since even though I've followed up.

I hope for one of the two outcomes below, ideally both:

1) I get my QRK from the exchange and I won't ever bother with them again.
2) I hope they get shutdown and Vern is thrown in jail for this criminal behavior.

This should provide some answers to those that lost coin and wondered where it went: Cryptsy actively ENCOURAGES the exploitation of their exchange by asking those that end up with more coin than they should (whether intentional or not) to SELL it again rather than waste time logging a job. I also take from this that they will NOT ban or close accounts when you exploit the exchange .. Right? Unless it costs them "money" or "coins" and then you're fucked whether you did the right or the wrong thing. It's a lose-lose situation for you.

I personally haven't had any problems since using Cryptsy other than some delays with deposits and some serious lag at times causing bugs. It seems some people have been stung though and Cryptsy should do the right thing and get those problems fixed ASAP.

TLDR; Cryptsy has also stolen my money (yes, some of us buy coins with "real" money) ( From the post above)

How does one use "real" money to buy coins at Cryptsy?

Could someone define "real money"? Is it real because you can hold it your hand? Or a wallet, bank, pocket or hide it under ground in jars?

Oh shit, I knew there would be at least one of you trying to derail the topic by starting a debate about this. That's why I put "real" money in quotes to thwart people like you. Please, just..stop.

Now I don't know whether your question was an honest one or not or you're just trying to fuck around, but no.. you cannot buy coins with "real" (oh shit..I did it again) money on Cryptsy.

I was not trying to derail the topic. I was making a joke from what you posted, lighten up a bit champ. And I know Cryptsy has not integrated Fiat into the exchange and personally I hope they never do.

Yeah I can imagine  your USD going bye bye or the BTC not showing up for a day or 2 after you buy it.

Good, thanks for your input. Even after reading your response for a third time I still miss the joke.. but ok. In regards to the fiat integration, if they do manage to get that going, then at least people getting screwed over will have a leg to stand on. By that I mean the value of fiat is understood by the legal system and worth can be attributed. It's easier to understand if someone said "I transferred $50k to Cryptsy and they stole it" than "I transferred 60 BTC.. etc".

Their "great new" money stealing feature will ultimately be their demise.. well, hopefully  ;)  Admittedly I haven't read through the entire thread but I do hope something comes of this complaint. I'd be keen to join the bandwagon/lynch mob but I'm not a US Citizen. I'll have to look at my options.

I hate thieves, but I hate Narcs and rats worse.

shitclones are the very worst though i need to buy a 500MH farm to 51% all those turds before they get started.

I think he means real in that it is not counterfeit. I guess most of us use some kind of "fake" money.

My favorite "fake" money are white tailed deer. I have several bucks at home.

You most likely kept hitting buy when nothing was confirmed. This happened during a high load time and it IS your fault if you can think logically. When something is getting hammered, do you A. Keep spamming the buy/sell/cancel button or do you B. Hit the button once and then stop touching it.

Lol.. did you even read my post? That is what the "misunderstanding" is about. I'm telling them I didn't click buy twice.. it was one buy order that got executed twice by the exchange. Thanks anyway man.

Ok, that happened to me too. I sold more LTC than I actually had, but I knew that was wrong and made sure I had enough to cover it when it would become negative. If you would have researched before you would have realized what to do in case of that. You said you googled it, well then why didn't you sell it right away? No one is saying what Cryptsy allowed with this flaw was OK, we all agree it was a complete fail in their design. But, we knew this and we also knew you would lose money if you didn't sell it right away and got your balance back to positive. Why did you risk losing all your profits?

I've never had a problem with Cryptsy and they've always resolved things in a timely manner. I think they're the best exchange in the US. Everyone taking them to court or complaining about problems with second rate altcoins  is pretty dumb imo.

I believe you. :)

As you can see, my 42 deposit tripled itself soon after it confirmed. lol

I already covered most of your question in my initial post, but you're almost right about one thing.. In hindsight I should've assumed that by trying to do the right thing that I would lose out. With your and Cryptsy's mentality it's a mistake I won't make again. Can you do me a favor and post a link to the research you're referring to? The only stuff I found were people frustrated by losing coins... or, wait, are we talking about the same research except in your conclusion you "sold quickly so you wouldn't potentially lose coins but others would"? I was trying to be selfless rather than selfish. (Inb4 "you miss the point of trading")


It's not the altcoins that are the problem, it's the exchange. I'm glad you've had a positive experience though, MANY of us weren't that lucky.


Apparently you've been handed an opportunity here my friend! Now that I've been enlightened and I've had confirmation from Cryptsy that exploits are OK, you should ride this wave to richdom!

You know, this is really pissing me off. This is not an easy way to make money, at all. First we wade into it, many of us with little to no programing experience, fight through the maze of missing and misinformation, figure out how to get the miners set up, risk our hard earned money, which is which is harder to earn lately because of all the time it took to learn how to get mining efficiently, on hardware that we constantly have to add to and maintain. Then it's time to trade. Some people like to gamble. I don't. So, I pay very close attention to prices, and don't make long term predictions, which makes trading a very meticulous process. But I can reliably make gains that way, and not losses...

... as long as the FUCKING EXCHANGE DOESN'T SUCK.

Since this has to be an income for me, and not play money, I can't make big trades. I barely make 1% on each one, and cryptsy takes half of that, which is fine, as long as the exchange is there for me when I need it. That means that the information I see is in real time, not two minutes old. Thirty seconds is too long. It means that when I withdraw money, the withdraw is processed, then, not days later when the coin the shit is stuck in is selling for half as much and I've lost any gains it could have made me.

We mine all the coins. We make all the trades. We take ALL the risk, they take NONE. We do all the work, and all they have to do is keep the damn exchange working.

These problems are not just mere inconveniences. THEY COST US MONEY!

I'm sure each employee has a difficult job and works very hard. But vern... no.

High patronage is NOT a problem, for ANY business. If your site is to slow to handle the traffic that makes you your money, you need to dump that money that's flooding in on it until it can keep up. He obviously has not been doing enough of that. It's been this way too damn long.

Bter has plenty of volume in DOGE. Their trade fees are 28% less than vern's. They're rescanning the bitcoin blockchain right now, so don't expect a payout until that's done. Other than that, there's no reason for anyone to stay with cryptsy.


If too much traffic is his problem, we should help him out.

choosing another ex is fair, but crying at the gov is foul. Got no respect for that.

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That's what I love about this crowd.

They are manipulating the market to increase their profit to the roof, its common now see buy orders higher than sell orders in the orders book (something impossible, and you can see almost all days.).
You can't beat them, even with the best bot.

Today, they simulate a pump but they don't fill the orders in the middle (I had one sell order sent hours before, but they start trading higher without fill the sell orders in the middle).
I have a perfect record with many other exchanges, but the Cryptsy records didn't match my records (coins disappear from my account).

it's a fraud. Be careful !

I have tons of screen shoots with absurd numbers. Just check the orders book of LTC/BTC market today.

They didn't answer the support tickets.

Going to the Gov was a really bad move.
Cryptsy is a rare, decent exchange.

Cryptsy is a diseased pile of crap that should be wiped off this earth.. this exchange will follow MtGox eventually and be brought to justice.

After months and months of fighting with them to give me back my BTC and them accusing me of "intentionally abusing" their system, they liquidated my account and took all my remaining coins which I was forced to leave there and I had hoped would be worth something again one day so I could at least get *some* of my investment back.

So, in short: Double spend bug bought twice the amount of QRK I wanted. Instead of selling immediately, I read people were losing money and decided I'll contact their support so they can sort it and others won't lose coin. It frustratingly took them more than 30 days to respond during which time QRK value dropped significantly. BitJohn said in a IRC chat I should be happy because they "lent" me QRK. I wasn't, I was infuriated because my account was in negative BTC and I couldn't remove the QRK either. So, I gave up and decided to wait. Lo and behold, I logged into my account yesterday and found ALL my QRK was sold on 6 March 2014. I contacted their support asking them WTF was going on, here is their response:



So, you can say whatever you want about what I should've done, what I could've done better etc but here are the facts:

• I tried to be a honest trader by logging a ticket rather than selling. If I sold, I would made more profit than I should've.
• I was worried that if I "cheated" the exchange, I'd have my account closed down for exploitation/hacking
• I have been repeatedly accused by 3 different staff members saying I "intentionally" tried to cheat the system, even after I've exhaustively explained what happened
• My initial BTC investment is gone because of a double spend bug in their exchange
• The QRK I had left behind is now gone too
• They want me to deposit an additional amount of BTC to bring my account into "good standing"

FACT: Cryptsy will not take responsibility for their bugs, they will assume you exploited their exchange (does not matter how well you explain yourself and reference to logs / evidence), they will hold whatever coin you have and sell it without authorization (they didn't even send me an email advising me they'll be doing it. I had no warning.) to recoup "their" supposed loss. This exchange operates like a criminal enterprise and all off this within the borders of the United States.

Please listen carefully: Cryptsy will be shutdown eventually. Especially once they start taking USD deposits. Make sure your funds are NOT on Cryptsy when this happens. Don't give me the opportunity to say "I told you so, now shut the fuck up."

This is not good.
Are there any decent exchanges that are considered safe?
One by one they are biting the dust...

Cryptocorp
"We build fraud detection and recoverability into your Bitcoin wallet. Our industry-leading HDM technology integrates with wallets and exchanges to reduce the risk of theft."
https://cryptocorp.co/

http://ytchannelembed.com/video.php?id=Ek3tYZ44h2k&t=  2mins in. The company will help you not store your coins on the exchange such as cryptsy.

They are full of shit.

My deposit tripled minutes after it confirmed.

http://img.techpowerup.org/140508/cryptsybonus.jpg

something is going on with this place, i think they are in some shit!? jmo =\

Its all Horus the Hobo's fault. ;)

The fortune he made begging.. phishin apparently wasn't enough.

It Sucks ever having to get the fuzz involved with CC because its just one more thing for the bad press to latch onto, so it kind of pisses me off. However the - balance bs pisses me off too, soo, Exchanges better get their shit together.

This is what I am seeing from Cryptsy right now, historically, once you start seeing this, eventually it never goes back one day,..

500 - Internal Server Error

I've never seen an error 500 with their site. I do agree that there are a lot of things that need dealt with (and I think they should be done BEFORE joining the USD market), but they are still one of the more popular exchanges.

ROTFF YES AND THEN NOW HE'S AN EMPLOYEE?? WHAT A JOKE!!!  :D

yes blood in the water again, something very bad happening over at cryptsy! imho  :'(

i'm still on the fence here, they will be hearing from me very soon if Paul don't get his act together..i gotta real bad feeling cryptsy is in some $$$ trouble..jmo =\

although the crypts support staff TRY'S to fix problems and r nice ppl the underlying problem is that none of the other trading sites need support staff because their exchanges actually work properly. I hate crypts more than any other thing related to BTC right now and would advise anyone to stay far away unless u like frustration and an email box full of retarded cryptsy support tickets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THERE IS NO SUPPORT!!! ONLY SUPPORT "BOTS"  :-\

He always was "on staff". How else could he get away with such disresptectful behaviour. eg. begging, phishing, rudeness ect.

http://img.techpowerup.org/140529/horusisjd.jpg
http://img.techpowerup.org/140529/horusisjd2.jpg

Then theres the still yet to be fully explained charity drive when he revealed his true ties to Cryptsy. Here you can see him lying about being a recent add on.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=310335.0

Yes this is small time, but its only the perverbial tip of the ice berg.

naw i see it took me a minute to figure that out...i don't get that bad of vibes from him but in general this exchange is a fvcking joke if you cannot even get someone to answer a support ticket! =\

Actually Yoyo, Christopher Mallick would have been an awful gambler and he probably knew this himself. Instead he was pretty self centered with a huge ego. He funneled our money through the 'wallet' feature to his Oxymoron Entertainment company bank account where he was collecting money from unsuspecting investors to fund his Middle Men movie which funnily enough was an awful attempt at a self autobiography. Naturally it bombed at the box office, all his other subsequent 'films' despite having decent characters (only thing going for them) went straight to dvd, itunes, etc. http://www.christophermallick.net has all you need to know!

Peace  :)

Alex

mullick? lol =0

Not me :P Im not that hard to find if anyone looks....

We also do not hold deposits

When we disable deposits/withdrawals its either because of an issue with our wallet or the blockchain. If its with the blockchain people are usually sell off. Thats just what happens

maybe you are just underpaid and understaffed, sounds like you are in over your heads here with the neverending bugs...the same kinds of bugs NOT TO MENTION insiders pumping/trading "coins" with no functioning wallet like have you even got the NXT wallet issues squared away? plus no support and the email you told me to send to Paul he never answered it !! i get it you are paid to pump cryptsy cool ...like we believe anything you say? ya sure bud ~i'd start looking for a new job if i were you! jmho  ::)

CRYPTSY YOU ARE FIRED!!! I HERBY PUT YOU ON NOTICE!!!! EVERYONE WHO FEELS THEY GOT SCAMMED CAN FILE REPORTS WITH THE SECURITIES EXCHANGE COMMISSION...SOMETHING STINKS HERE!!!

Lies. I have been waiting for my NXT withdrawal for 7 days now.
Before I made this withdrawal request my other NXT withdrawal had been processed, so I have the account number of Cryptsy. And during these 7 days some small withdrawals went from that account number, so clearly there is no issues with the wallet or the blockchain, as you do process some of the withdrawals. Not mine though. I Pm'ed you with the ticket numbers. Tickets only receive canned answers, like 'your funds are safe, blablabla'. Safe as in Mt. Gox's coffers, eh? Is Cryptsy insolvent? I have strong suspicions this is the case.

Insolvency is the inability of a debtor to pay their debt. In many sources, the definition also includes the phrase "or the state of having liabilities that exceed assets".

imo it seems they are using the cryptsy NXT market to sell off their own insider coins while everyone else cannot deposit/withdraw...seems pretty unfair to their clients imho....+Pauls' tweet about NXT was an insulting joke!!! =\

There's always one person that ruins a party. This guy is just pissed that he didn't buy at $100. I dont believe for one minute that this clown owns 63 btc's. If he did, he would of pulled them off the exchange a long time ago and stuffed them away in a secure wallet.

8 days waiting, no withdrawal. Is Cryptsy insolvent on NXT?

they obviously are out of their league, they need to hire people who know what they are doing!  ::)

I suspect they may know quite well what they are doing, but that might not be such a good thing after all

if so than they are screwing their customers on purpose, i'm out bitcoins because of their wreckless and incompetent business practices!!  >:(

Wow I'm really on the fence here.....I've used Cryptsy for for thousands of dollars of trading, and I've never had an issue. But I can see how easily there could be a problem, for instance if Cryptsy is doing some trading with with clients funds then I could see how easily they could get themselves in trouble when someone wants to make a large withdrawal.

I really like having a large exchange like this and I have more trust in Cryptsy then any other exchange. I'd like them to stay around, but without any consumer protection any of us could be screwed at any moment. I try not to keep my funds in any coin for to long, I'd rather make a quick $100 than try to wait and see if I could make $1000. Because I don't want to get caught holding the garbage bag.

I get the feeling there's a lot of haters trying to take Cryptsy down and that find come back and bite them in the ass because right now Crypsty is one of the best things we have going in cryptocurrencies. Imo, lol.

i've been one of the top supporters of cryptsy up to now, they owe me bitcoins and when I made a big deal out of it they all the sudden "froze" my account!--Can't even log on now
>>> I expect them to be shut down, or just go offline and pull a Gox on everyone!!!! =(

9 days waiting, no withdrawal. Is Cryptsy insolvent on NXT?

sure ya then they eventually gave me Pauls email, send it out then I never ever get a response! This is MY money they have, now i can't even log on...see how that works! =\  i got scammed

Of course, that was the first thing I tried. I have a few tickets opened with them.

^thats soooo 2013! lol

At this point I consider those NXTs lost and will be notifying you guys on how long I have been waiting for my withdrawal every day. Just to raise awareness.

I sent him a pm with my ticket number 3 days ago, didn't get a reply. Here is the ticket number again #138365 in case he gets interested. But I don't expect it. There must be some sort of selective service to customers going on.

I just opened a new ticket with them, it was closed almost immediately without a reply. I wonder what I should choose from their customer survey :)

Please take a minute to rate our support
Awesome
Just Okay
Not Good

There is so much bullshit going on at that place.

When enough people complain to the attorney generals office, they look into it.

I'm thinking they won't hold up to a real investigation, when one occurs.

Greed takes over rational thinking. Seems to be what has happened there.

My guess is a few of them will end up in jail.

I will look into what is going on with NXT.    The devs changed the protocol awhile back and we had to rewrite some things to support the NQT stuff.    We are 100% funded in the wallets, so that is not the issue.

BigVern

I live in Florida and have worked for guys like Paul Vernon (though I dont know him).  Small businesses thrive in Florida because the state is pro-business.  We are one of the last right-leaning states in the nation and our AG (unless he's tight with Obama) is not going to stab a moneymaking entrepreneur in the gut just because some douchebag lost money speculating in a high-risk new industry.

Most likely, the AG would help Cryptsy understand state and federal laws so that he can continue providing jobs and tax revenue in our state and hopefully make south Florida a crypto hub.  The AG and other members of the Tallahassee govt are probably trying to woo Vern for campaign contributions rather than attacking him for running a lucrative biz in their state.

Let the trading resume.  Send polite feedback and constructive criticisms to these exchanges if you have a problem with how they operate and let natural economic selection sort them out.  If the only reason youre in crypto is because you want to get rich quick, youre an idiot.  This is about building a new billion dollar industry based on a transformative new technology.  No whiners allowed!

I received my NXT withdrawal. Only took 9 days, but thank you anyway.

^Oh there you are, well i'm glad i got my 1440 HBN back but my other tickets were never resolved and now my account has been locked for what; something someone else introduced(tea bags) to your chatbox?
What a great way to treat your Wall Street connect! I sent you emails like your mods instructed me to do and you never replied. I'm being forced to hand this over to my friends at the fraud board who have more experience dealing with these kinds of issues on a day to day basis.  :-\

when your coins disappear or GO NEGATIVE ..then when you explain and complain: THEY LOCK YOUR ACCOUNT i'd imagine you might go pay them a visit? hmmmm =\

Nonsense.

 Cryptsy has done good, and continues to be reliable. Delays, yes, rarely. Just utilized them again. All went good.

 Still closing in on 3000 trades. No regrets here. I keep getting the opposite results of apparently just a tiny few that claim they get unacceptable results. I still have to discount these folks but hey, maybe so. Still, I trust Cryptsy. Seems like almost all of us here do.
When long time users here, or many start to have serious problems, well that's another thing altogether different. So far that simply
isn't the case from what I have been able to determine. Verify, verify, verify. Always verify.

 Many scams sites are out there. Cryptsy though is NOT one of those.

 These Cryptsy fud threads are generally in very poor taste. whatever.


Bitcoin is Monetary Freedom.

you sound like a sweet candy ass kisser! the writing has been on the walls here since last year, no more cool aid for you!!!  :P

Should I move my coins out of Cryptsy?

cryptsy A+ trading site .been trading there for a long time and never lost a coin or had an issue

Please help Fitcoin to get listed on Cryptsy by sending them a coin request :)
Thank you for supporting us!

Has this been confirmed ?

oh well, naked shortselling on their markets on the tops while shutting off deposits. Explains pretty much everything.

i'm not close to there, will be dropping by soon though! ;-) *maybe someone lives nearby? ez

We moved offices about 2 months ago after running out of space. Perhaps we should update the picture

ya think? lol....you guys disappeared MILLIONS of my coins and locked my acct!~wassup with that fool? =\

my last craptsy withdrawal took 2 and a half months and 50 plus support emails. What a joke i will never ever send money back it is so frustrating dealing with them. I use three other exchanges and have never had one problem .

Hey, give Cryptsy a break, it is by far the best Exchange, are you a competitor or something, quit it. Don't destroy the scene.

This is not true. Please stop spreading FUD.

I visited the office in question for 1 week in early march to accept a job offer that would require me to move to Delray from Minnesota. I worked in that office for that week with the other 8 employees we had at the time.

I moved to delray on March 31st and started my new position. I work at the new office 5 days a week. They moved to the new office about a week before I moved here. We have 15 Employees working at the new office.

I dont know where you think you are getting your information but it is 100% false.

Bitjohn is in fact a remote employee but that is about the only guess you got correct. I also was a remote employee until March 31st. If anyone cares to stop by the new location let me know. I would be happy to speak with Paul about getting you a tour

invest you Time in your Site, not feeding the Troll...

- improve Mobile Usabilty it is a Nightmare as of Today
- flipping Balances (your logged in but Balances disappear)
-...

I would stay away from anything "Big Vern" is associated with.  Have you mined on his pool and been paid?  I mined and haven't been.  What's he doing with my accepted shares, spending in Las Vegas?  How many others have mined on his site and haven't been paid?  Hopefully they investigate, find sufficient evidence and shut him down.

This seems to be standard practice for Cryptsy. I've had it happen many times. Open a ticket, have it shut the same day without a Cryptsy reply in a state of 'Awaiting customer response', I'll reply the next day, and it will be put into 'Awaiting customer response' state  again without a Cryptsy reply, rinse and repeat for a week or two at a time.

I get the impression they are trying to manage 'Support Response Time' metrics without actually providing any customer support.

I use Bittrex now. Zero issues, instant problem resolution on IRC. Couldn't ask for more.

yes i'd love to drop in and get a tour! ROTFLMFAO!!!! http://smilies.newcastlebeats.com/smilies/pics-stfu.gif



BY THE WAY WHERES MY MILLIONS OF COINS THAT DISAPPEARED????

Read this .... I love the part about how they openly admit to slowing deposits to minimize fraud and 51% attacks so everyone's coins are safe. Yes, you read right... DEPOSITS.
And their preamble:


Freely?  ::)

https://cryptocurrencywatch.wordpress.com/2014/06/08/the-fine-print-every-cryptocurrency-trader-needs-to-read/ (https://cryptocurrencywatch.wordpress.com/2014/06/08/the-fine-print-every-cryptocurrency-trader-needs-to-read/)

ask Zack what happened before when he needed to withdraw his hundreds of LTC while the market tanked and he lost a fortune last year..
You know what they told him ?
They told him his account was frozen on him and he lost access to his funds out of the blue because he had changed his chat box name to my name.
I still have the convo's saved i think here with pm's with the bs excuses and crap they pulled on him trying to make it look like him or i were to blame.
He was a whale back then and needed to take his coins out and they stopped it and locked him out for almost 2 days.
And he told me he never changed his chat name at all.. and i believe him 100% !
That was yet ANOTHER bold face lie for what ever manipulative bs they were trying to pull.
and they were trying to make it look like i was to blame too and Zack knew me well enough to know i had ZERO to do with it in anyway.

THAT

is who you are dealing with here guys.
*some staff maybe legit but some have been busted playing games period .
and i don't mean once i have a phone book sized list of it all.. stunt after stunt

jeez i felt so bad for Zack..
he kept coming on Cryptsy chat with a new account saying, can someone contact staff and ask them to help me ?
He kept saying damn.. LTC is just tanking hard.. and it was.. he was losing a fortune BIG TIME !
And since they never contacted me about this or even asked me on chat about it they kept feeding him bullshit about it (BitJohn)
and when i mentioned BJ went off on me and said shut up about it or your banned.. cryptsy cover style lol
they love doing that lol
But my point was why did they not unlock his account then ? why did they make him wait another day and keep feeding him bs and lies ?
were they short on LTC to pay out the whale ? lol

edit:
hmm interesting my conversation with Zack back and forth when that incident happened does not exist in my saved PM's here.
I have any convo i had with him and everyone else saved going back to when i registered back there is a gap..
There is no talk of when that Cryptsy incident happened with Zack just talks we had before and after the incident.
..strange

All of the $$$ flowing through Cryptsy but BTC "Is not money"...

PROBLEM DETECTED.

I have like 4 accounts: personal, business, charity, and another one i manage for a client!. So after having my coins outright DISAPPEAR they lock my personal account because " i push their mods to their limits" When i asked what does that mean(as i've been modding stock market sites for years) ...now = *crickets churping*

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PAUL ARE YOU FVCKING CEREAL???

I see that my post from the other thread about the office photo got noticed here.   I was following that thread but didnt know about this one, until I just stumbled on it.    I simply went to go find the office since its in my neighborhood and recognized the "old" building from memory as its on a major road.

I live in the area, and would be happy to take you up on your offer and visit your new office.  I can go as a neutral party.  Full Disclosure: I used cryptsy a few months ago, but do not have any funds/alts on it currently.

i can confirm this. Wallet stuck on cinni last two spikes - reddcoin yesterday
don't even try to send coins to cryptsy that are on the surge.

YES I FOUND OUT HOW THEY WERE SCAMMING THE HARD WAY = WHEN NXT WAS FIRST PUMPING HARD ON CRYPTSY I TRIED GENERATING AN ADDRESS = NO DEALS THEY WERE INSIDER TRADING!!! =\ *LOST OVER 1BTC ON JUST THIS ONE PARTICULAR INCIDENT!!!!

Where were you last summer when IFC and the other bubbles were being blown thanks to all that insider chat hot air ?

When 2 or 3 of us complained, BitJohn and/or BigVern tried to brush it off by playing stupid.

Then the trolls started to backstab eachother.. the omfg'n lolz

If you would like to stop by please send me an email. mullick@cryptsy.com

Our hours are 8am to 5pm Monday - Friday

Hi,

I sent you a PM and email now.  I am available tomorrow any time (Friday).  Sorry for the late notice as I didnt see this post until now.

If /when you see Horus the Admin Hobo Imposter, plzzzzzzzzzz ;D give him the finger for me. :)

I wasnt able to make it last week but hope to go visit possibly next Monday.

i'm thinking of dressing up like a zombie at the next bitcoiner convention and "eating" pauls face just for fun...and chanting coins coinssss ~~nom nom nommmmm ;-)

To me it's all the small things adding up.

The hallmark of reliable software is that it's repetitive...
It works the same way every time you use it.

Here... sometimes things update... sometimes not...
You get randomly kicked out... sometimes not...
It's as if FOR A JOKE they run everything off an RNG.

So people end up loading your servers with BILLIONS of page refresh requests.

Also, the orders are broken up into 100 dust fills...
NO ONE ON EARTH WANTS TO SEE...
That your order for 100 coins was filled in 27 partials...
You just want to see the TOTAL that was filled.

It's as if the people that designed the site have never actually used it to trade alts...

Here's the url for the Cryptsy Devs so you can take it for a test drive:

https://www.cryptsy.com

And today the "Reports" are not working...
Why bother having such a nice feature... when it works on a random basis?

go figure~because the site was created as a way for Paul and co to dump their premined clone coins ...it's totally unprofessional =\

I had to reset my password to enable 2FA today, and when I tried to withdraw the funds I'd sent via block #309615, the transaction never confirmed and just stayed at "pending" - despite the fact that it had only been 14 blocks since my deposit.  I contacted Cryptsy support to find that they locked my account for 24 hours due to the password change, despite the fact that nowhere on the site does it say this is the site policy.

I offered to supply all the necessary documentation required to prove my identity, but all I received was a curt "sorry, there's nothing we can do."

In a post-Gox world, you'd better do a hell of a lot more than that to prove your solvency.  So I also filed a report with the Florida attorney general's office because fuck this shit, I am not playing cute little games with these exchanges anymore.

A 24 hour password reset freeze is a good security measure. We are not the only exchange to employ it. Not sure what that has to do with this thread anyhow. Let me get this straight you are "filing a complaint" because we locked your funds for 24 hours for diligence? My bank once held funds for 45 days..... Best of luck to you.

The problem occurs when the first mention of it is in the fine print of the reset email rather than literally anywhere else on the actual website.  Clear communication is and will always be a leading practice in business.

For example, saying "there's nothing we can do because we think you're a hacker" conveys a different message than "sorry, there's nothing we can do because our automated system server-side encrypts your wallet's private key when you change your password"...

Don't underestimate your customer base.  We use cryptocurrencies because we like the long-winded, technical explanation.

Whoa, Crypsty is in here?  Can I ask where the hell my NXT withdrawal is?  Nobody is answering my support ticket and it's been 4 days.  I kinda think maybe--just maybe--someone at Crypsty should be at least decent enough to answer me.  I mean, if you can get on Twitter and on the forums can't you answer support tickets?  I'm mad as hell about this.

I had a withdraw issue like this once... couldn't sent it from exchange to exchange.. it was back in my account after several days.

Also you do have to verfiy your withdraws now so if you never verified.. it's just sitting there doing nothing.

A lot of companies do not reply to things that are in the FAQ's..

Thanks for your answer Spazzdia, but it's not that.  I answered the verification email.  It just never got to my wallet.  They are looking into it now and hopefully I'll get the NXT soon.

Crypsty has issues, but nothing that requires running to the Gov't. They are (until proven otherwise) a top-tier exchange and one of the only ones where your funds are probably safe, compared to ~98% of the other options.

Really ? These people do not give a flying fuck about us.

If this is allowed to happen, what else will we learn if/when they get audited ?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=310335.msg4878420#msg4878420

Horus (cryptsy admin), aka. Jdtmp4 (crypty's troll box hobo)

lolz if Horus is BigVern and/or BitJohn.

All different folks drive on down to Florida pop into the office and visit the other 30 employees :) Really pretty simply. We are the only exchange that is public and accessible in the scene really so trying to make us anonymous is well silly really.

Really?
If you want/need people to pretend to care about you, then why not donate to your local sleaze-bag politician?
Some of Cryptsy's issues are related to fast growth, and others come from less than perfect site design........lol?

They have responded to every ticket I ever needed to create, and (like it or not) they are currently one of the very best BTC exchanges.

Please explain why Horus' puppet show was allowed to go on as it did. Could it be because you had something to gain ? Or were you simply amused at how easy it is to fool and manipulate people ?

Btw, I'm still waiting for some answers regarding the 42coin deposit that magically tripled itself.

Bumped, Cryptsy sent out tx - https://blockchain.info/tx/4b4ef2ed8c0a061a44230314db970e1d64365125222b55f157ca9b508845c834

My apologies for the doubt, I jumped the gun.  I was wrong.  That being said, does Cryptsy have a salt-based solvency proof?

I got my tx, too.  Thank you, Cryptsy!  I would urge, though, in the future, you want to pay really close attention to support tickets as they come in.  Especially now that you're dealing with USD.  A support ticket should get an automated response within 24 hours and some sort of human response within 48 hours (even if it's "we're still working on this problem").  Good luck!

What is a salt based solvency proof? Did you just make that term up on the fly? Cryptsy is solvent. They have employees running to and from 3 different banks all day getting funds out and in to cold storage. I've seen proof.

Yep, didn't look up the actual terms (Salt-hashed identifiers with a merkle tree-based proof schematic).

http://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/23m3xg/vault_of_satoshi_launches_full_public_proof_of/

(yes, Reddit)

I have opened a ticket more then Month and around 2 week and after a Month the guy who supposed to be responsible for the ticket asked me if the problem been solved. WTF!! One time i managed to get a customer service representative to chat send them again all the info they wanted, they promised to look into it and you can guess what happened. Absolutely nothing. I have never seen so bad customer service.
My money still missing and no one give .... in cryptsy about it.
If any of you have idea what legal steps i can take against i would be thankful.
In my eyes at this moment they are thieves i will try contact Attorney general in my state but not sure if it helps.
If any of you have idea what legal steps i can take against i would be thankful.

I think the hobo is a system admin or such.

How embarrassing and what a fucking joke!!!

Just remember people a sex shop, troll box scab is now in charge of systems at Cryptsy.

Anybody else getting '500 - Internal Server Error' message for cryptsy?

pictures or it didn't happen..

and hey who is doing this when BitJohn is spending months in Iraq fighting towel heads with the army ?
I know he has said he has been deployed lots and disappeared at the same time for many months at a time.
And i also recall hearing about how this or that guy has no access to things.. hmmmm conspiracy ?
why is it that BigVern is the most quiet guy around ?
Your more likely to hear from Satoshi himself LOL

Are they solvent ? in reality i have no way to know for sure.
my instinct tells me yes they are (i am defending them)
and when Gox went down they posted a blog story on the Cryptsy Blog (i can't find it last time i looked)
That went on to explain a *little about how they operate in comparison to how BitJohn perceived Gox was operating.

End of the day though i have no clue either way.. i have always taken their word for it.
But their word has meant less and less to me over time.
You just can't have all the *older staff wrapped up in bullshit so much and not get suspicious.

I've gone to great lengths to explain in incredible detail story after story showcasing their crap stunts so if your dumb then drown..
I'm done caring really.

this is Gox all over again.. the place pulls stupid stunt after stunt with it's customers while cheerleaders defend them.. just like Gox !

Twitter reports they are doing some maintenance.

bwaahahahahaha^^^^  :D   i know right!!!

It seems it is down.  ???

Like that guy said earlier, though -- this is a great opportunity to right a wrong, and subsequently gain a lot of people's trust. I knew a coin dev that fucked up his launch due to an unpatched bug that some linux users patched on their own (and thus got a head start on mining). However, upon fixing everything and having the privileged miners donate to those who missed out, things played out well.

All I'm saying is, give it some time and things may turn out better than expected :)

Spoetnik, c'mon man. you're not even trying anymore. Big Vern programmed atari's at 12 years old. He's one of, if not the most highly recommended Ecommerce web developers in the game. he has thousands of recommendations on LinkedIn. Mention his name as a reference in a job interview = you get a job. Dude is more important than you will ever be, and he's a damn good developer. FWIW, he's also pretty cool once you get to know him, and he gives solid advice.

Am i cheerleading? Nope. I don't like some things they've done in the past, and you can ask any employee @ cryptsy i'm very vocal in airing a complaint, i just don't do it on the forum which is what a child does for attention. I contact the person directly and handle it. I told vern hey, i don't like xyz, or hey i think you should change the way xyz works. it would be more efficient. or hey xyz sometimes shows xyz message when condition w is met. the customer should never see that message.

I do have an outstanding complaint about a feature of the site, and i will not comment about it publicly but at the time of this writing it hasn't been fixed yet. i would consider it mission critical, and i've reported it, but you know, its whatever at this point.

if this is true then i'm shocked he has gone out of the way to perpetuate a site that is full of known bugs and glitches!!!  ::)

Bugs and glitches can happen to anyone, though -- careless mistakes are very much a part of being human, and hence I think jumping to conclusions isn't really a responsible thing to do :/

obvious noob! no Paul had every chance to improve the code or whatever...
you know what he does instead?: add fiat!  
:P  who does that?

I once recieved triple what I deposited and it wasn't a glitch. They were either : a) hoping I would take it so that they would have a reason to discredit me, or b) they mistook me for one of the insiders while distributing perks and bonuses that day. Regardless, THEY ARE USING the FRACTIONAL RESRVE SYSTEM. Their "technical difficulties" are only excused meant to buy them time when they fall short.

I am very impressed with Cryptsy hiring DCGirl for PR. Pity no one can stand her shit.

In my eyes it is a company who gives a shit about customers. My ticket is open 2 months and nothing.

you are talking out your ass!!! gtfo  :-\

I gave them ALL details and they promised to resolve issue but they end up just with promises. Same issue had my friend. Same silence. I am fed up with this attitude. NEVER experience such a bad customer service from US company ever.

Maybe because of your reputation they know to give you 110% satisfaction.. or else  :D

I've gotta say that while I don't like how Cryptsy is run, I've also never had an issue (through tons of trades over many, many months).

I have the feeling the situation is just like with most businesses: people just say "HELP ME" and don't explain what their problem is, but blame it on the company when things aren't resolved to their liking. We see this ALL the time in physical stores as well.

currently cryptsy is abusing the too large amounts of uno people store on their exchange by shutting down withdrawals for weeks (with no credible explanation) to keep the supply at the market artificially high so they can get rock-bottom-prices for themselves. Deposits on. Withdrawals off to keep supply high and to frustrate people to the max so they dump into cryptsies own buyorders.

We see the pattern of shutting down deposits during spikes and shutting withdrawals during times of low prices to control the supply of coins at their markets to their own advantage. Lots of people get screwed in the process.

thought i post it here.

Newbie status eh...

I've had zero issues with cryptsy.. zero..

are you a cryptsy-sockpuppet?

So whatever happened with the complaint? Did the Florida Attorney General do anything?

BTW even though Cryptsy has had it's issues, getting the gubmint involved (the Florida gubmint no less) was a stupid thing to do. What good would have come out of it? Cryptsy gets shut down and there is one less place to trade and there is one more story of a failed crypto exchange in the news?!

cryptsy is not giving me my coins for over a week. I just kept getting same runaround from their support. now they dont even respond to me at all.

It is worth over $50K USD!
Does anybody know what I can do to expedite the return? These coins would be making money everyday by staking, so maybe they are keeping the BTCD for that reason?

James

I've tried to withdraw about 250 BTCD hours ago as well. I had two withdrawals, the first one had like 3 BTCD and the second one the rest. The small one came through immediately, the other larger one is still pending after more than 10 hours now.

Cryptsy, seriously, why did I even give you a second chance after I quit using your service in December 2013? Still the same old issues...

edit: just decided to buy another 360 on Bittrex and the withdrawal was in my wallet within a few minutes as it's supposed to be...

when you do 2000+ BTCD withdraws, one week and they stop even responding. I asked bigvern to release what amount his cashflow allows him to. It seems they are on the verge of insolvency to be acting this way

James

P.S. Alternatively they are staking as much as they can?

you too? ...

Back in April during HeartBleed, Cryptsy allowed logins during their hotfix of the SSL / digital certificate and I couldn't get a hold of Big Vern to relay a pastebin ad for access to the site ie possibly a copy of the digital certificate. Support simply replied with a template "thank you for your ticket blah blah"
Never heard back though I know the issue was fixed eventually.

I'm sure BV is a great guy bug sometimes smart ppl believe they're infallible, especially when it comes to security and coding they've coded. Mark Karpeles is an extreme example of this. Is BV the same way? I don't know. His support team recently provided great support to a REDD/RED issue on Reddit and StackExchange, so I have to assume this is indicative of a good boss.

Cryptsy is a dinosaur now. And when exchanges become obsolete bad things happen IME. Just my 2 cents.

Of course they are. lol

This and other exchanges have made a fortune thanks to PoS and the noobs that allow them to get away with it.

Number one rule for exchanges, only keep what you are willing to loose in an exchange. Large numbers of BTC in an exchange is just plain stupid, sorry.

They are bitching about some alt coin.. it's probably messed up and they be blaming cryptsy.

Oh oh, this doesn't sound good at all. Another Gox coming up?

I'm glad I left Cryptsy ages agp. I don't really trust any exchange, I just hold my coins locally and only deposit when I want to trade. Soon as the trade is done I withdraw the coins. I figure this minimizes my exposure to an exchange going down. The only drawback is a little waiting period when your deposits are confirming, nothing really.

Cryptsy is vibrant and alive compared to many other exchanges.
What alt coin exchange (other than maybe/sometimes btc-e) has higher volume?
Any?

Yep, i had exactly the same thing, it seems like they do "fractional reserve banking" means they only have 5 -10% of the coin amount on their exchange while all of it is in cold storage or FIAT currency this is why you can now buy and sell with fiat if you want to.

You will now even get payed if you store bitcoins on cryptsy for longer time.

i think it boils down to is it fair or not ?
and i will be first in line to bitch about them, but.. i will equally admit they get a lot of flack for no good reason.

they have to run wallets and those wallets are not made by the exchange basically so that right there causes issues..
and insolvency just because BigVern doesn't want to tell ya by email how many coins they have ?
LOL nice try but that is dumb and doesn't mean anything.
I find it hard to believe BigVern is doing tech support too.. doesn't he have people for that ?

hey they banned me for a year with no warning claiming i made up some shit about them (and i never did) so i don't like them !
But i find it hard to believe they will steal your coins outright.. they have been good at that sort of thing from my experience.

fucken Cryptsy just frozze my account with 1.4 BTC in it mothefuckers asking for all kind of information like if they were the police now to be verify is not an option they forcing people to do it, now you know where to put that 1.4 BTC  suckers ...

Did they give a reason for freezing your account?

Well Trust Can Be Bought A lot Cheaper With Me

CAn deposit 0.5 BTC to this address

1JyLxxpfUg7pyBWbN6HZDor2G14aXusBAm

Thank You BigVern

My deposit issue wasn't solved from 10th of October. Support simply not answering me.  ???
https://cryptsy.freshdesk.com/support/tickets/162246

This is because they are about to declare bankruptsy, you should never had used it in the first place

I have yet to have an issue with withdraws..

False feel free to come by the office anytime.


As far as users with withdraw issues if you have one you have likely been contacted by support. If not contact them if the system is not working PM me Ill track down the issue.

- Yes we cannot send coins on a forked chain.
- Yes unusual activity will flag you.
- Yes not being verified can cause short delays.
- Yes if your doing something illegal you probably shouldn't use Cryptsy
- Yes if your in an OFAC country we cannot do business with you.
- Yes its all in the name of securing your money.

This thread seems to be the only [sort of] active thread about Cryptsy.
That's why I decided to repost here my question about dividends for shareholders:
Will they ever be payed and if positive - when?

WTF.. what shareholders? 

Cryptsy is listed @ Cryptostocks 
https://cryptostocks.com/securities/57 (https://cryptostocks.com/securities/57)
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Oh.... I see..

I'd like to know the answer to those questions too.  It's been a month and a half since the last "weekly" payment.  Even before then, the "weekly" payments were often not given weekly.

Threads like these are reason I stopped using cryptsy 2 years ago

It's good to see some action some action is be taken.
Extorting your customers with extra high fees, without a redemption period is called theft.

If your customers are unhappy and try tot withdraw their OWN money and you let them wait, you should be in jail