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1021  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 23, 2023, 05:36:20 PM
They've recently increased Victor Osimhen's purchasing price to €180M which is to discourage top bidders.
The real value is € 120M, so there is a figure more than € 60M which is quite high and can be used to get other players, so actually Napoli is wanting to say to the clubs who are still after their main striker, that they will not sell this star, and the amount pegged by Napoli is equal to the real value of Kylian Mbappe and Erling Haaland. Maybe the clubs will be reluctant to get him and this season Victor Osimhen will stay with Napoli and that's what they have to do if they want to keep the title and can do better in the champions league next season. Unless Napoli make selling their stars one of their businesses to make money like the teams from the Bundesliga do.
Although a change in manager will also be a question, how will Napoli continue to perform an impressive appearance in the next competition?
I think nobody would be able to pay him 180 million, that just doesn't feel like it will happen. The best thing to do in this case would be making sure that you are handling all the contract talks with the manager, that way you can get him after the contract is up. Thinking that people would be willing to spend 180 million to get him is just a dream, not reality and won't be happening.

Mbappe worths that much if you ask me, only like maybe Mbappe and Haaland, nobody else really feels like they would worth that much. Osimhen had a great season that's true, and he is a great player all that's true, but 120 is the max teams would pay, anything more than that is beyond bonkers and doesn't feel like they are going to actually get that offer.
1022  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 23, 2023, 06:05:38 AM
According to reports,Arsenal have competed the signing of Karl Harvetz from Chelsea in a deal worth about 60 million pounds.As an Arsenal fan,I am happy that Arsenal have made a signing in this transfer window,but I'm not happy it's Karl Harvetz,I was watching his pattern of play in YouTube,and I must confess,he might just be another Fabio Vierra in the Arsenal team.He is bought to play in thesame position with Odegard,but I don't see him starting for Arsenal,because at the moment,I don't think he can bench anyone in that starting line up.We have people like Smith Rowe who is fighting to  be a regular starter in the squad,and it hasn't been possible following the exceptional form of Martinelli on that wing.Nevertheless,it is not bad because he would add depth to the young squad.
Im happy with this news. Chelsea will able to maximizing the new striker. Havertz was helping chelsea so much in winning so many trophies but he is not fit to the chelsea right now as a striker. I know that if ST has not become his best position. He must be playing behind the attacker.
So many arsenal fans are feeling skeptical for this transfer but arteta may have different opinion regarding this transfer. 60 millions are good amounts of money for him consider he has experienced in so many competitions.
That's pretty much the same like jorginho transfer from chelsea. Let's see how good performance from havertz in arsenal. i don't put big expectation for havertz.
In my opinion that if the gunners fans shall not underestimate hvertz before he will be playing for chelsea.
I think it's a lot better if we could just focus on a new striker that would be beneficial as a pure striker, think of a target guy. I know they can't get Haaland or Lewandowski, those levels are off right now, but they can now afford to get someone decent and that's what they were aiming at. Kai was a good guy and all, but he wasn't a pure striker, they need to get someone who focuses on just scoring and scoring only, if they keep doing that then we are going to see them do amazing jobs.

Even in this financial situation, there are so many things they need to improve on that maybe their finance will not be enough, I know they are rich but they need to get a better roster made, the squad strategy is so screwed up right now that it doesn't work together.
1023  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: June 22, 2023, 05:45:21 PM
Whether it has to do with the strange understanding of the Turkish team, I don't know, but they haven't been performing well against worse teams. But they are not the only ones who have trouble against weaker teams. Usually when it was a good team against Liechtenstein, Cyprus and so on it could be said that this game will end with a lot of goals against those weaker teams. But they have become stronger in defending and I have often seen over the years that they keep a clean sheet for quite some time during games against stronger opponents. That makes the superior teams nervous and it works. Six or seven goals was normal, but that isn't normal today. The results look quite average even when it is David against Goliath.
Yes, Turkey has such a problem. We can't dominate the match against small country teams. This is one of our problems. While we make very simple mistakes, we can do really well offensively. I think success can come if we can be a better team defensively. The biggest problem for years has been in the defense and forward area.
I think that's true for a lot of teams, we have seen the world cup and that made it so sure that even big clubs like Spain and Germany failed to dominate against lower level teams. I think that is mainly because teams usually underrate the other teams and that makes it a lot harder for teams to end easier opponent games early.

Even the ones that ended up winning, ended up winning a lot harder and that's why it wasn't really that shocking for Turkey to have something like that too, it wasn't really a big deal for anyone as long as they keep winning and Turkey did end up winning both games in a row, that's good enough if you ask me. As long as teams get three points, how they get it doesn't really feel like it should matter, you won anyway.
1024  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: June 22, 2023, 05:22:16 PM
United States will be hosting about 80% of the matches so this argument of three countries hosting the world cup is not entirely true. And regarding the number of teams, it was long due. With the current format, the UEFA teams are over-represented in the FIFA World Cup. During the 1990s, it was justifiable, because back then the Asian and African teams were unable to compete against the UEFA teams. But now the situation has changed completely. AFC and CAF teams are giving good fight to the UEFA and CONMEBOL teams and this was very evident during the 2022 FIFA World Cup.
True, and the reason for the United States to host most of the games are mainly that the United States but much more facilities and potential to host the world cup than other countries, United States got enough hotels and stadiums to even host the world cup by itself alone.
Regarding AFC and CAF teams I think they have improved themselves a lot in the other hand in the 2022 world cup many European teams had bad performances and they let these teams have the opportunity to show better performance.
They have a lot of money as well, sure Canada is not a poor nation but not as rich as USA, and I am not even going to talk about Mexico, they are very poor. All in all Mexico is dangerous as well, they are known to be cartel land and there are a lot of people who would not want to go there just because of that reason, whereas when we are talking about USA, even though there could be some robbers and such on the street, that would be mainly pick pockets, not a lot of people would be in danger of losing their life.

Unless some mad gunman ends up shooting everyone, those kinds of stuff do happen at USA, that's one risk that you need to just take, but I bet that cops there will prevent anyone like that during that period and not allow such embarrassment.
1025  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Litecoin's comeback on: June 21, 2023, 04:59:39 PM
Litecoin is one of the potential Altcoins, therefore it is impossible for it to just die because it is still in great demand by traders and investors. it's just that the development team needs to be able to compete with other projects in order to raise its ranking.
However, to outperform Bitcoin will certainly not be possible, if the target is to become the top Altcoin ranking, of course, it still has the potential and hope to be able to compete with other Altcoins.
Not a lot of people realize that, litecoin has been around for a long time and it will continue to exist for a long time as well, there is no possibility of it dying anytime soon, that's just not possible. Too many people act as if we are talking about some meme project, this is litecoin we are talking about and it has been around since 2011 and it is still near the top 10 level after all these years. Why would something can be high on the rankings for over a decade and somehow go away suddenly?

We would need to face a situation where it would not make any type of sense anyway and that's not the point and it can't ever be the point at all. I believe that the best thing to do in this case is to make sure that we are at a good level and that can only happen given enough time.
1026  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - The Leading Crypto Casino - Drake, UFC, Everton, Alfa Romeo F1 Team on: June 21, 2023, 04:26:45 PM
I am only 10% away from the next VIP level, platinum 5. But even for that I still have 250k wager left to make it, these numbers. Guess I will never reach that. How can I make this? haha
Well 10% looks small but the number to wager can be still considered as big amount. It is  the same when we were trying to reach Platinum 1 from zero. If you have some money to lose (no more than the possible level up reward), I think you can force yourself to chase it but it is better to chase it slowly but sure. Maybe you can try by wagering $5k-10k every day by playing the in house game with small bet amount (0.1$-$0.5). I'm sure that you know what is the best scenario for you to chase Platinum 5.
I think that's the point, I do not gamble a lot of money, I gamble with literally under 1 dollar bets whenever I can in games that allow that, and I still end up with a good result in the end with a lot of wagering.

Because, I end up gambling a lot on the long run that way. Maybe it's 250k dollars, but if you gamble 1 dollars per bet that's 250k bets, and if you end up gambling even just 10 bets per minute (which isn't all that hard) that means you are going to need just 25k minutes, which is just 416 hours, if you gamble only just 2 hours per day, that would mean 208 days. Even if you consider that it might take 2 years, that's still doable, but this looks like it could be very possible under a year, with only one dollar bets.
1027  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 21, 2023, 03:40:40 PM
couldn't a player like Osimhen also influence Real Madrid's style to a certain degree and lead to more goals being scored again? The same applies to Kane. If they have a reliable striker who is fit and available 99% of the season, I think that helps big time to implement a more offensive game again.

Mbappe also is not like Ronaldo and he wouldn't score more than 40 goals in La Liga alone. He scores countless of important goals in a game though. That makes him so valuable as he often scores the decisive goal that is needed to win a game. Haaland in contract is the player who scores like a machine in every phase of a game.
When you have such a team, changing the whole team to fit into just one guys system is not a smart move. Ancelotti is the type of guy who would play the players the best they could, with the method they could, so that means if Osimhen or Kane arrived, he would find the best ways to use them without making anyone else bad, he is individualistic in that regard and that's not too bad.

But, the reality is that we are talking about a situation where Osimhen and Kane is not the level they need right now, they are worlds most competitive team, and in order to stay like that Mbappe is a must. Because, he would be the best talent, not just best fit, but he would fit too, however best talent. When you are that big, you need to get the very best.
1028  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Turkish Super League 2022/23 Season on: June 21, 2023, 03:11:19 PM
I'm wondering what Galatasaray will do about signing a striker. Icardi's loan contract is about to end by the end of the month. His contribution to the team in winning the Super League title was really huge. Despite not playing a full season he still scored nearly the same amount as the number of games he played.

After seeing his performance me and so many other supporters don't want to see him leaving just now. But the conditions he demanded from Galatasaray are really big. As far as I know he wanted €40m for three years. This is too much for us and there is no way we can afford him by not selling any important player.

Okan Buruk thought of Mostafa Mohamed for this position but thankfully he is back at Nantes.  Grin  I don't want him to be the replacement because there is a huge quality difference between him and Icardi.
Galatasaray became the champion of last season. Icardı had an important share in this championship. When you have a good striker in Turkey, you can progress more easily on the way to the championship. Galatasaray is aware of this, although there were financial problems last season, the transfer of Icardi took place somehow, even if it was on loan, it was a savior. He wouldn't have gone to a low-level striker like Mustafa Mohammed. Fortunately, Okan Buruk was sold and survived. I wish him luck with this player in the team he went to. For now, Anastasios Douvika has started to be in the news in the Greek press, the offer for the young actor is ready, let's see what the reality will be, maybe they can think of other alternatives.
Icardi could still be bought, Galatasaray is trying to sell some players f rom what I see, and if the ycan sell some of those players then they could end up getting Icardi, I mean if they really want him that much of course, I do not know if they really want him that much. From what I heard they were looking for another striker, and to purchase him as well so not as a loan.

Latest news on transfermarkt that I saw was that they were very very keen on Moise Kean (pun intended lol) and that would be an insane transfer. They have Zaniolo right now, they have Mertens, and they may have Kean as well, those three alone guarantees that they would have a great forward line, along with Kerem playing, those four could be enough for UCL together. Not sure if it would happen, but looks a better deal than Icardi to me.
1029  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: June 21, 2023, 02:35:35 PM
Indeed, it must be admitted that Zidane's capacity is not for PSG and of course he is well aware that if he manages PSG there may be a number of things that make him quite depressed. On the other hand, Real Madrid will still be his top choice and it is possible that if there is an offer, maybe from an Italian team like Juventus, who also used Zidane as a former player there.

I think it will be more limited for coaches next season and it seems that they have no other choice but to bring in Luis Enrique, after all he is also a very experienced coach in Europe and even brought Barcelona to win so many trophies at that time.
The problem is that he managed very very small amount of time and quit, even quit while he was managing and cameback and managed some more and left again, in all of those years he won UCL and been a great manager and wrote his name in the world legends as a manager, just 3 seasons and he is already amazing.

So, when you consider the fact that he might have to actually end up with coming back, and ruin all of that just for PSG doesn't seem like it makes sense. Think about it, he is considered a great player and a great manager so far, why not be remembered that way and just leave the sport all together? He has tens of millions of dollars and amazing investments, why need to risk it all for PSG and maybe lose everything you have collected so far?
1030  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 7 tips to know about crypto trading on: June 20, 2023, 06:26:10 PM
Most things newbies don't know about crypto;

_ crypto trading is not a get rich quick scheme, it's a process and to be a profitable trader you must follow the process.
There are indeed many beginners who misunderstand this in the world of investment or crypto trading. Many think that trading or investing will make them quick to make a profit, even though having such thoughts is not quite right. Because as you wrote in this post, to make a profit in the crypto world, definitely need a process and coupled with thorough learning about crypto. So if don't enjoy the process, how can benefit? Maybe the reason beginners think like that is because they know or hear that there are many people who make big profits from investing or trading crypto. So the beginners joined in with the crypto world, with the desire to get profits quickly.
Unfortunately that is because of the marketing some influencers does, and that does impact the market terribly as well. They do marketing, even pay out ads that shows they made millions from trading and trying to sell you the secret, if you made millions then you do not need to sell it, so it's obviously a lie and nobody can prove otherwise ever, nobody ever has.

However, newbies sees this, and they have a pretty rough life and money is not abundant, so they decide to give it a shot and hope they can get super rich, which ends up being untrue and they lose their money instead. Crypto world is a place where you can either get rich in the distant future, or quickly lose all of your money, it's risky and dangerous so you should be careful.
1031  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 20, 2023, 05:44:50 AM
Liverpool have already started to be active in the transfer market slowly. They have already signed Mac Allister as you know. They look like they are focused on sending players who aren't useful anymore on one hand. Milner was one of them and he has just been signed by Brighton on a free transfer. Oxlade-Chamberlain and Firmino are the players left who are expected to be free agent by July 1.

I understand Oxlade-Chamberlain's situation. I believe it is the right decision for him. However I still don't understand why Firmino is being released now. Because there are only 2 natural centre-forwards in the squad and they are sending one of them away now. If they have plans to fill his place nicely then okay. Otherwise it doesn't look good to me.
I think they are aiming at getting some pure strikers, Firmino wasn't a pure striker, he was a forward but he wasn't like goal-first mentality player. The football world is evolving around that idea nowadays, there needs to be at least one guy who is chasing goals, and they want to get that. They have one already that keeps on failing, they may get another that would actually be good.

Firmino hasn't been playing at Liverpool recently as we all know, so there is no reason to keep him, dude could leave and he could find himself a starting position somewhere else, he is good enough to be the forward of many clubs and this is why they let him go, he deserves to play, he is not deserving of a bench role, hence he should be let go to find a place he can play.
1032  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Buy ETH as much as you can.... on: June 20, 2023, 04:21:53 AM
ETH has an easy 15 x or more from here to the high of the next parabolic bull run. Bitcoin is King, no other coin will ever be as trusted, reliable & valuable as bitcoin but as time passes we are seeing diminishing returns, lower ROI. Because ETH is still so cheap it is more attractive to some newbies, for this reason we will see higher returns than bitcoin for a while. ETH is a great medium term hold.
This is such an important information that not many people can see. I can see AT LEAST 20k for the future and ETH can reach it very easily, it only requires one more bull run, just like we had in 2014, just like we had in 2017-18, and just like we had it in 2021 as well. It is not impossible, as we have seen so far it is totally possible and I think it is going to be important part of this as well. If we can keep doing it then it is going to matter a lot as well.

I know that a lot of people will end up not understanding how it would move any differently, but if we could do it then we are going to be fine. I hope that other people can see the potential as well, I am buying up as much as I can, and one day when all of my portfolio combined worths 32 ETH, I will move to my personal staking.
1033  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: June 19, 2023, 04:50:49 PM
All teams have tough times and it is only to be expected that after so many years of dominance, Juventus have gone into decline. If this all ends, then it will not be such a difficult crisis for the team, although they had to go through points deductions and many unpleasant moments, but I think that they were able to pass this period with dignity and next season they will be able to compete for the Scudetto.
Of course all clubs have difficult times and this is the second difficult period for Juventus who always faces difficulties and I think Juventus always gets stronger in the midst of it. Allegri must have responsibility for the history of Juventus and must have the determination that next season Juventus deserves to compete for the Scudetto and compete in Europe. Allegri must now focus on Juventus transfer plans. he has to meet with the club board to discuss and plan for the upcoming season.

We need to remember that Juventus was in a worse condition than the current situation and conditions. they've all experienced darker eras than this. Enjoy it and hope there are surprises in the next season. Allegri is still at Juventus, so they have to trust the remnants of his abilities.
I mean thinking how they were literally relegated and then they came back and won it like 10 times in a row shows that Juventus is not a team that likes to quit, it is not going to be that easy, you are not going to get rid of them. In fact, I have a theory that when Juventus is attacked like this, that makes them even more angry and better, it ends with them getting better results later on.

This season they have been attacked pretty heavily all due to some financial issues, not even any bribery or scandal or anything like that, it was "accounting" that made them lose so much points and places, which of course will make them mad and it was unfair, I think it is going to be pretty important to realize that they will do much better on the long run.
1034  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Turkish Super League 2022/23 Season on: June 18, 2023, 04:59:25 PM
Despite the 37 year old player name being spoken up frequently during the transfer season it seems that the suggested agreement with Fenerbahçe is far from ideal. In light of the player current stage of development offering 8 million Euros for a two season contract seems extravagant. Even while such a sum could have been acceptable a few years ago it does not meet the standards for a player who is close to retiring. Dzeko ability to maintain himself for the entire 90 minutes of a game is questionable at this point but he still has time left in the game to contribute 25 to 30 minutes of experience and talent. But rather than a possible consequence It appears more likely that this transfer rumour is only a news tale created to fill the gap of the off season.
The player we are talking about as "too old" just played at UCL finals, we are aware of that right? I am not saying he is the best striker they could ever get, of course they should look for someone younger if they want to, and if they are willing to pay 4 million a year (is it 8 million for 2 years as in 4 million per year, or is it 8 million per year? If that's the case then 8 million per year) could find amazing players, so they should definitely look for someone better.

If you offer that much money on some good strikers that are not at the very top clubs, you could probably get them. Aside from like 5-6 teams at the top of 5 big leagues, any other teams striker would say yes to that much money because they are making like half of that. So yes, they can find better player, but Dzeko was UCL finals striker just a week ago, lets give him the respect he deserves too.
1035  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: If I have 1BTC So how did I use to invest in different Coins on: June 17, 2023, 06:14:10 PM
are you asking about diversifying that 1 bitcoin ?

then lets see what is safe and what is better depending to how long will you be handling the investments.

 there is a List I have , and it is yours to follow or not .


             1. 50% bitcoin

             2. 20% Ethereum

             3. 10% binance coin

             4. 10% Tron

        and the last 10% is diversified in some shitcoins and meme coins in which I admit to be risky and may lose all.
I think this isn't that bad, I wouldn't put that much on Tron though. Mine is VERY VERY close to yours and not really that complicated neither. I put 50% on bitcoin as well, exactly the same, 20% on ETH so exactly the same, and 10% on BNB so it is exactly the same on all of those.

But instead of Tron, I split the rest into 3-4 different coins, that means they are much smaller and they won't make much change but they can't hurt it neither, BNB has dropped a lot and rest went a bit higher because of that, so it is more like 5-6% BNB instead of 10% and the other coins are a bit more like 15% instead, but that is a temporary situational thing. In the end we should be seeing this do a lot better and I believe that this type of investment is a lot more strong for the future.
1036  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: June 17, 2023, 05:45:45 PM
The best option for him is to leave PSG in peace and avoid further drama. He should know that at his level and age, no club will be willing to invest much in him, hence he must consider a pay cut or move to Saudi Arabia or join Messi in the US Major league. The fans don't want him and I am sure he knows the consequences. He would be booed on the pitch at the slightest opportunity if he insists on staying in PSG. If he wants more money, let him move to the Saudi League but if he wants to play in a competitive league, Newcastle should be his best option. Without injuries, Neymar is a good player that would bring experience and quality to any club that signs him.
I agree, Neymar slowly exiting and going to another team would benefit him a lot. I know that this will sound crazy to a lot of people and I get it, but what about Saudi Arabia? I know he is not that old yet, he could still be a great player for some big European club, his career is not over and most people who goes to Saudi Arabia goes to end their career there, it used to be MLS (in Messis case still MLS) and now it is Saudi league because they are paid a lot, but I feel like it could actually be a bit different in this case.

Neymar is younger than all of them and still a great player and could dominate that league a lot. So if he is offered like 200-300 a year, or maybe even more, then he could actually bring not just his name, but actual talent as well.
1037  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: June 17, 2023, 04:23:09 PM
We will have three teams from Premier League for the title in next season Brighton Albion, Liverpool and West Ham United as they are second Conference Cup winner in this season and now have chance for the next season in Europa Cup but right now we can't predict who is going to win and how things will be in next season because it's never been easy with Liverpool which is not consistent in last few seasons surely need to work on their quality and also consistency because they are facing troubles which are surely not allowing them to have better performance in big matches.

No doubt Arsenal and Manchester United were both hot favorite for the win, but sadly both have no place into last four with due to poor performance in knock out rounds which is surely giving all how teams need to prepare for this event and any team can give you setback in any match Sevilla which was worst team in La Liga won the title and now going to play Champions League in next season which is surely amazing.
When you say West Ham and Brighton, in the same sentence as Liverpool, it just doesn't feel right at all. I know they finished badly this season and if they get any worse than they are not going to be all that great, but that doesn't mean that we are not going to end up with the same Liverpool neither. Remember these guys played UCL finals just a year before, and they could still do well, they had some problems scoring, and their defense looked like they didn't care all that much.

But if they get on a good winning streak, everyone will be hyped a lot and will do their duty without a doubt. I am not saying they will get the premier title, but Europa seems like quite possible for them, not "easy" because it is still a tough tournament, but it should not be that difficult neither.
1038  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: June 16, 2023, 04:44:30 PM
Chelsea is in a awful situation, and its high time for effective control. The current spree of acquisitions mirrors reckless spending, not deliberate team development. Look at Mason Mount. An extraordinary talent considering an exit. Manchester United' 40 million proposal was declined, but Chelsea's 70 million price indicates a likely departure.

How can Chelsea stop this slump? They should aim for a unified team, not just hoard elite players. That's the tough reality they need to digest. Quickly please
I think it's mainly because the owner wanted to put his name on the paper and make these type of changes so that he would be considered a good owner, which wasn't really a terrible decision on the short term because it made him look like he was someone who agreed to spend a lot of money on players and that's what an owner has to do, that's the only thing about them, it is not like the owner is making decisions on which players to get, he just pays the money and the team staff ends up getting the players.

That is why this was not a bad move, it was actually good move for him to be liked by the fans. However, the result did not come but it is quite alright because owner wasn't seen as the reason why the results were bad, and that is still good for him.
1039  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Where can i get the crypto whales signal??? on: June 16, 2023, 03:40:23 PM
In my opinion whale signals are never the real thing. They might exist but normal people will never be invited. So 99.9999% of those trading signals are just scams to get you to pay a fee.

Anyone offering predictions should be ignored. I have been trading for years now and never once have I heard or seen a real whale group, selling signals to small investors. What I have seen are pump and dump coins looking for victims.

Do future yourself a favor and stay away.
Reality is that "whale movements" are a real thing, but signals of it is not. I mean just because a whale moved their money doesn't mean that something will happen, unfortunately not a lot of people realize this. I think it's quite important to remember that if you are doing something because whales are doing it, you are not 100% sure if whales are actually doing it.

You could see 50 million dollars withdraw from the exchanges into wallet, or could see wallet going into exchange, doesn't mean anything is actually happening, may look like something will happen but doesn't mean it will. This is why it's quite important to not take them as signals. Yes whales do money around, that's their thing, they always do, but that doesn't mean it's a signal for you to buy or sell.
1040  Economy / Speculation / Re: How high will Bitcoin rise, or fall, in 2023? on: June 16, 2023, 03:21:23 PM
If you think like that, then I would think the opposite of what you are saying. Indeed, Bitcoin has become a fairly good investment vehicle with its popularity which is not at all doubted by many people, moreover they have also seen how the adoption of Bitcoin continues to grow in several countries in the world today. But alternative creators are also very numerous now and some alternatives are also not bad to have for everyone although the first investment option should also be considered in Bitcoin.

Because Bitcoin has become an investment asset that is more suitable for the long term, apart from that Bitcoin must also be placed in the first choice in terms of trading because there are many people who can still benefit from it until now. And for further choices such as alternative coins, they are only more suitable for short-term investments. So not everyone who comes here is for investment, but there are many other things that everyone can do apart from just investing and one of them is promoting the products they have developed so far although the success rate is still unknown.
I think it is obvious that bitcoin is a long term one and not too many people realize this quickly, they lose years trying to get rich quick and they end up realizing they can't do that and they have to keep on working towards long term holding in order to make it work then it would be even more amazing. I think people are getting closer to that during bear markets, they realize that they need to hold and they can't just get rich overnight, but during bull markets there are very few rare cases where people actually do get rich, they buy something very early on and it goes up super high and they get rich, so they keep thinking that they can do it.

There were a few projects my friends were interested in and that mattered, like Avax, one of my friends got into it probably as one of the first ever people to do so, and it went up, so they he got richer. Hence bull makes them think this is common and possible.
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