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1541  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How was your first attempt to play gambling on: December 17, 2022, 06:41:52 PM
How was your first start? Did you play blindly or spent some time to learn.?
As for poker, before I started playing with money, in micro limits, I practiced with play money and a console poker game, in addition to looking at some theory and some open raise tables.

The first few times I played with money, I had the open raise tables printed out and I bet according to them. Little by little I memorized them and I didn't need them anymore, just as I was modifying them as I went along, just like the postflop game.
I had to do the same thing for poker as well, and I did something similar for blackjack too where I had a pdf open that explains what I should do in most odds, like do I hit with 15-16 or do I stay etc etc. Same with poker too, didn't know what beat what, and had to check it, didn't print it out tbf, I had it open on my pc, but I used pokerstars with like 1-2 cents as my preference, and I had like 2-3 dollars in there.

The aim wasn't to win money but to learn the game. But the first ever betting I did was on horse racing, it was a thrill to watch those horses race, the more I grew up, the more I realized it's actually something that hurts the horses and a shame, now I never bet on it.
1542  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What are you doing with your alt bags on: December 17, 2022, 09:06:46 AM
Just like @CZ_Binance said on his interview back then after FTX collapse, he said, 1 by 1 and many other company will stop and bankrupt as well as they have put huge money on FTX.

If you are thinking to buy those coins which got dumped by DCG, better wait it, as the dump can be more deeper than now. $FIL, which got biggest dump, even still has $1billion marketcap, it's still huge IMO
I read somewhere that total altcoin market may get dumped up to $300-$350 Billion levels (then it was around $440 billions) which means around $300 billions reversal may happen; that would be the right time to start accumulating more altcoins with mid to long term plans.

Personally I am holding few exchange coins like BNB. So, I guess I may buy more gradually on dips to maximize the potential profits. This may applicable only for reputed coins and not for all the coins including shit-ones.
1543  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Just how bad is the bear market right now? on: December 16, 2022, 07:29:49 PM
Just how bad is the bear market right now?
Historically low prices have endured for a longer period of time in the present bear market cycle than in any other.
If we look at the history of the crypto market, especially bitcoins price, the result is quite amazing because of its past history of recovery no matter how down the price was. It never sinks to the bottom after any tragedy it has been through that it never recovered from it. Today, you just need to grab the opportunity if you have some extra money to spend on investment because this kind of chance is rare at the same time, you also need the requirement to know the right coins to invest as well but if you are not really sure which one, then stick to bitcoins.
That is exactly how it will be this time around as well. I know not many people believe that but I am 100% certain that we are going to end up with a recovery yet again. This means that if we work towards just buying a bit each week if we can, and hold it as long as we possibly could, that will result with a big profit. I am not saying that it's going to be that easy, it will of course but a bit hard but the hardest part is the holding part.

If you can just ignore the current price, and focus on what it could be, then we are going to end up with a good profit without a doubt. I just hope that people do not forget that they need to make sure that it's going to be a bit of a trouble if they sell too early.
1544  Economy / Economics / Re: Tesla’s stock prices dropping fast on: December 16, 2022, 06:24:00 PM
So isn't it related to the fact that he sold part of the shares?? It seems to me that the purchase of the Twitter platform has a mediocre character here. His company has proven itself well, and it seems to me that shares will be bought up even at such prices.
I think there is a bit of it, but more like a snowball effect. Think of it this way, he sold, and dropped it just a bit but people saw the dropped and they sold some too and there were some stop loss and some hedge funds and suddenly you are looking at a bigger fall.

Twitter probably has nothing to do with it, only possible relation is that he seems to be caring about Twitter more than he cares about Tesla nowadays and that's an issue for Tesla of course, but that wouldn't be something to care about suddenly right now. As long as Tesla keeps building cars and selling them with ease, not having any problems with unsold cars like some other companies have, then they will keep growing.
1545  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2022 Discussion Thread on: December 16, 2022, 05:59:10 PM
Messi as a leader in the Argentina team now, probably want to show to the squad if he is still Messi were same as a player who has fast dribble and movement. but, the age factor is a problem, he will tire quickly if forced to do all jobs for every line then he must divide it because France has a young player who has a fast move and passing, if Messi do itself probably the world cup champion would not come to him anymore.
Surprising. So far I haven't noticed Messi getting tired in any of the matches. He has two decades of experience behind him, and even in matches that went for penalty shootout he looked quite fired up. At least for him, age is just a number. Anyway, Argentina just have one more obstacle to cross before they can kiss on the world cup trophy. They are trying really hard ever since 1986, without much luck. And this time their long wait may come to an end. And credit should be given to the younger players as well. They have provided adequate support to Messi.
Messi is in great shape, of course, but Mbappe also feels great, besides he is much younger, so if France manages to impose their game, they can become world champions for the third time in their history.
They are not playing against each other, Mbappe will be fighting Argentina defence, and Messi will fight against French defence. Which means that they could both have great games and doesn't make one or the other worse. I feel like Messi will play better than Mbappe, because Mbappe got too used to playing at striker position in PSG whereas he is left wing at France so there is a difference he goes back to adjust, he is used to that too but not entirely.

However, France attacking players will play better than Argentina ones, and that will result with a goal from Messi, but probably more goals from France. I hope Messi ends up with a cup, that would be very sweet retirement, France could always win later next time around with this team.
1546  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2022 Discussion Thread on: December 15, 2022, 09:20:21 PM
I really think Argentina is going to win this World Cup..... Messi already said it is his last World Cup, so he wants to be known as the GOAT .... and this is his final hoooorah to do it.

I would have wanted to see him against Ronaldo in the final, but that cannot happen anymore..... so I will settle for a Messi vs Mbappe   Grin
I see the odds favor France to win on most sites, but I feel we will see a draw after 90 minutes.  Tongue
This will be a crowning achievement for Messi if Argentina wins, demonstrating his status as the GOAT.

This battle presents numerous obstacles to overcome. The competition between the top four scorers. Who will have the most goals in this World Cup, will it be Messi, Mbappe, Alvarez or Giroud? Messi has the advantage in a tie because he can score goals and assist. Mbappe, on the other hand, has two assists, so Messi is only ahead by one point. Because the French also have Dembele and Griezmann, i'm going with Messi.

The betting market is fairly even, but most had France a slight edge.
I said this as well and there are some people who doubts him even if he manages to win. Unfortunately hooligan mindset in football prevents some people to enjoy everyone.

I personally LOVE watching both Messi and Ronaldo, I grew up watching them, their career started all the way back when I was freshmen in high school, so my first year in high school I watched these players, and now I am middle age, balding, and father old dude and I am still watching them and that's the greatness about them both. Just because someone says if Messi gets the world cup then I consider him the best, doesn't mean they have to think Ronaldo sucks and a terrible player at all.
1547  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 15, 2022, 08:04:33 PM
It's the time for bayern to think about a new goal keeper to replace neuer. Neuer itself is a very good goal keeper even if he was not young again but his response is still very good to block any ball that came to the his goal.
The goal keeper from croatia may become a good replacement for neuer. That's why bayern has been trying to get a new keeper for the club caused by two keepers that owned by bayern already old enough to compete in the bundesliga and champion league.
I feel like watching world cup to get a new goalkeeper is not a good idea, that is the best goalkeeper of a nation and for Bayern level of team that could be a good idea but usually goalkeepers are not the best in their nation at the age of 23 or something, they are there at 27-28 or afterwards.

This is why it is a lot better if they could end up with someone younger, so watching the bench is a lot more important. I would suggest them to get someone who is 23 years old or so, both proven something until that age already, so not too young like 17, but also not too old that he would not be good enough for too long, so 23-24 is a good range for them to look at.
1548  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: December 14, 2022, 09:29:53 PM
Maybe yes, maybe no. We all know that Binotto was instrumental in making Ferrari one of the best constructors. He has dedicated 28 years at Ferrari as a principal and is very good at it. But that doesn't mean F1 will suffer a setback with his departure - he's not perfect, he has a lot of flaws - it could be a turning point for Ferrari to become a top constructor again.

What's more, Vasseur has been named the newest team principal for Ferrari and he is not someone to be underestimated, with 25 years of experience, he can combine this experience with what Binotto has built. This will probably make F1's performance even better in the coming season.
Yes 25 years of experience and he never brought us a winning car so most probably I agree that Binotto should have stayed as his expertise is invaluable but also Ferrari needs to win something and since Binotto failed so many years since 2007 to be precise and I also agree with this move and maybe Vasseur just needs a much higher budget which Ferrari have to bring us the winning car again.

However Ferrari it is still in the dark in the sense that they sure expect more from the new team principal but it is another question if he will deliver for real a winning car or he will just continue the legacy of not winning any Champions again.
Like someone always mentioned, he should have been in charge of just the car, like Newey who has built 13 championship cars so far, and Binotto could be in that role as car designer and that's it. I am not really sure that anything would change and that should have been good for Ferrari.

Anything else about the in race stuff, should be changed and a new one would be better however that doesn't change the fact that we are talking about something that would be working better in the long run because a good car and a good team leader would cause a great amount of help for them. Binotto was horrible at race day stuff, he was never good about it at all.
1549  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA 2022 world cup on: December 14, 2022, 03:41:09 PM
Everyone thought last night's game would be tough, but it was a very easy game for Argentina.
I never thought that the game would end with this score.

There is MOROCCO - FRANCE game tonight. France will win 99%.
I hope France wins the cup.
Last night I watched in disbelief that Croatia would lose easily against Argentina, an absolute victory for Argentina since the first round match and it was very difficult to pursue because the ball possession was completely controlled by the Argentinian players. Argentina against France is everyone's dream final, while Argentina against Morocco is a new final for everyone. Apart from all that, I hope Argentina can win the world cup this time and of course as a good career ending for Lionel Messi.
Honestly it wasn't really a shock to me, it was always known that Argentina was a better team, and if you look at odds before the world cup started, Croatia didn't had a high hope for it, they got to semi-finals which is further then anyone expected of them to do, which is the key to Argentina winning because they played a team that was easier to beat.

To be fair Netherlands gave them a harder time compared to Croatia if you look how the games ended. This was expected for me, I didn't expected them to lose at all, maybe not as easy as 3-0 but that is still realistic score, if you asked me before the game I would have said that's possible too.
1550  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 13, 2022, 07:48:50 PM
There are even more in the family. Hakan is the cousin from Kerim and he is playing in Inter Milan, as you said. Then there is another cousin Muhammed but he is not with any club. But Kerim indeed has a brother: Turan. He plays in the fourth league.
Both brothers have been coaching in the youth teams at Hoffenheim since 2017. But neither has made the breakthrough yet.
It is common for people who are good at football to have some family that wants to try out as well and get a better chance to be scouted, doesn't mean they will go further though. It just means that you ask people to look at your brother or your cousin and because you are Hakan Calhanoglu that means people will listen to you, if I told people to look at them nobody would have cared.

There are plenty of people like that in our nation as well, father/son, or brothers, if one of them gets any attention and becomes big, then they try their best to get the others. Hell look at NBA and Giannis, dude managed to bring his brothers to the league as well.
1551  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: December 13, 2022, 05:30:20 PM
He was a player who have most followers and fans compared with another great player like messi or etc. that's why any news or rumour about him will be paying so many attention from his fans. Ronaldo has the biggest fan base in the world. Any rumour will attract traffic that will be coming from his fans.
I would not be surprised if ronaldo is always to be linked with some teams that played in the champion league caused by ronaldo wants to play in the champion league team. I doubt that if any clubs that currently participated in the champion league wanna try to let him join.
It seems like all of teams now abandoned him, he has no choice other than try to be paticen and realize his situation.
I do agree that he is one of the greatest players of all time. I am not saying he is THE greatest, but one of the greatest, because I do agree that there are few others. But, looking at his awards and statistics, I could easily say that he is one of the best without a doubt. This dude has played for so long and now he is aging and currently may not be the greatest ever but we should realize that his entire career looks like he is one of the best.

Scoring more goals than anyone else is a big deal just by himself, and that should tell you how good but also how consistent he is as well. That is why I believe that we shouldn't be shocked with everything.
1552  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: December 12, 2022, 09:35:31 PM
I think there is an incredible difference compared to last year. Barcelona has a team that has played much more successful matches than last year. This year they are at the top of La Liga for now, but Real Madrid is following them like a shadow. They seem like they will take the lead from them at the slightest snag. In the European league, their rivals are the toughest team. They drew the hardest draw and were unlucky in that regard. If they overcome the Manchester United obstacle, they can easily go to the final.
Last year they were pretty good as well, beat Real Madrid 4-0 when they faced after Xavi took over, and just a bit later lost to Frankfurt, that should be good enough reason to think that just because you are doing good in the league, doesn't mean that you will do great in europa or UCL, look at City and PSG, they dominated the league and then lost, look at Bayern and how they lost last year, all in all just because you are doing great in the league doesn't mean other competitions would be great.

All in all I am expecting them to be doing fine, but not going to guarantee anything for them neither, it is going to be easy enough to tell if they will be good or not.
1553  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 12, 2022, 06:00:56 PM
After performing well with Napoli and South Korea national team rumours is their defender player Kim Min jae has into Manchester United and Tottenham watchlist and apparently besides Osimhen who targetted by big clubs Napoli also should be hold this player because during this season he is one of Napoli key player and always be playing regular on Serie A or champion league so losing him will have bad impact for Napoli defense because so far his combination with Amir Rrahmani or Juan Jesus was very solid at Napoli defense however besides that yesterday Napoli has won 3-1 from Crystal Palace for friendly matches and this weekend Napoli will played one more match against Villarreal
He was already a great defender and it was always known that he would eventually leave. Last year he was in Fenerbahce and played wonderful, that's now he got into Napoli and this year he is the best defender on the team that is fighting for the title in Serie A with absolutely no loss at all so far, isn't it normal for him to be wanted as well?

Of course he would be leaving with Osimhen, and to be fair that's not bad because if they can get as high as 100-110 million from both (or anything more) that means we are going to end up with something much greater and that's a good thing for sure. I am not saying that we will see Napoli keep winning next year, but that financial gain is insane, no other team would have it in Serie A.
1554  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Why The Goverment try to centralize Crypto Be CDBC? on: December 12, 2022, 05:19:39 PM
We all know how goverment can't move on from fiat and create it as camouflage crypto called CDBC, they try to make competition because crypto has grow up everyday. And in fact some country was implemented the real crypto, bitcoin as currency and can be as payment.
I do not agree that governments cannot move away from fiat; I mean it might take some time but when more than half of population of a nation adapt and demand then governments may follow El Salvador. CBDC must be an intermediate attempt by governments to deviate people from the attractions of cryptocurrencies. It means people will follow the most convenient and beneficial thing which must be cryptocurrencies (considering against fiat or CBDC), but before people realizing all the potentials of cryptos, government will play all the drama and CBDC must be one of them.

Moreover, CBDC is not a centralized version of cryptos but it is another form of same fiats without any physical existence.
1555  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much was your last big win? on: December 11, 2022, 09:52:09 PM
I have never experienced any winning before, I don't know if luck is not always on my side but I have tried all my best to win even at least my stake amount but yet I always end up losing each time and at this point, am considering to quit gambling totally even though I don't do it that often.
How many games you've played ? and also at what game are you betting. I heard a lot of people saying that they don't win at all but when asked how many games they bet they only say 5 or less which is you can't really win a single game if you quit at 5. Also, I think you've already won, but I am sure it was just a small amount, and you don't care at all since you want to win big. Since you want to win big, small wins should be celebrated, not only the big ones, as this will attract luck.
As a person who has gambled on every game of world cup so far give or take (missed a few group games tbf) I have lost a quite good amount for example. Which I still think hold the truth, the more veteran you become, the bigger chance of you to lose because you start to think you know what you are doing and that is when you start to lose big.

Like when I was a newbie I would wager little, and if I ever lose then I would lose just a little, but when I became a veteran gambler, I started to "imagine" that I know what I am doing and wager bigger amounts on things I was sure about, and as we all know we should not be sure about anything at all when it's this topic.
1556  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: December 11, 2022, 09:36:02 PM
Due to the fact that Barcelona does not have any tension about the Champions League or anything else, they should be able to perform well. The only thing they can think about right now is the La Liga title.

I am not saying that this is going to be easy. But it is certainly going to be less difficult compared to when they had to think about what La Liga and Champions League were together.

Now they have the first position. I am quite certain that it is going to be very challenging for them to stay in the first position. Real Madrid is about to give them really fierce competition. However, it is pertinent to point out that Barcelona is not very clear in terms of points when it comes to Real Madrid. They are very reachable at the moment. So Barcelona will have to be very careful. They do have financial problems, but that cannot be an excuse. Because even with financial problems they have brought in very expensive players.
The difference is that they have it for Europa, sure easier opponents than what Real Madrid would face, but that means they may go further. People act as if Real wins UCL every year, and sure they have the most trophies that is true but that doesn't mean that we are talking about them winning it every year, some years they just suck.

So, let's assume this season they end up losing, right at this stage, that means they have nothing else but the league to focus on. On the other hand Barcelona would want to win Europa, so they would get tired a bit more so they would not be able to focus on the league as much. This is quite possible, and also very likely.
1557  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - The Leading Crypto Casino - 🦉 Drake, UFC, Everton Main Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: December 11, 2022, 09:18:01 PM
The wager requirements for the Bonus Drops and for Eddie's bonus drops during his Streaming are slowly crawling towards $10 000.... Do you think it is getting too high? (It is not about countering bots anymore)  Roll Eyes
I have never followed eddie's stream for bonus drop and giveaway so I have no idea how much users get from the bonus drop during the stream. Is it the same as the daily bonus drop in telegram? If the bonus drop worth twice or even more than the one in telegram, $10k wager requirement is not too high imo. Obviously too high or not can be different as some players with low bankroll and low wager activity may consider it as too high, but it can be something normal for active users who can wager that amount.
And to be fair you don't have to. Because even though there is a chance that you could get something, first of all it is not going to be huge, it is always the same and small amounts unless there is like this huge 500k giveaway type of thing that gets announced first. That is always announced first though and marketing will be done which is why you would hear about it and be ready for it if you want to. Aside from that I do not think that it really means that much of a job.

In the end, we are going to end up seeing some people be happy about it, and if they are happy with such small amounts then let them be, I will not participate for most of them and just gamble meanwhile.
1558  Economy / Economics / Re: Use your money wisely. Invest or Deposit ? on: December 11, 2022, 03:06:23 PM
Let's say if you deposit the money into a bank and the annual interst rate is 3%, you will get a steady interest income year by year. If you use this money to buy Bitcoin, let's say the BTC drops to $17,000, you'll buy less than 6 Bitcoins. In the long run, what would you do with this money ? And why ?
Deposit is also kind of investment hence now you need to think about how much risk you are afford to do. If I were you, definitely I will choose bitcoin for all my money (by ignoring the diversification principle of investments). I may sound like over confident about bitcoin but for someone who is into this crypto space for more than a decade and able to predict the market direction within the cycles of bitcoin market, I guess there would be no other option might seem attractive.

Bitcoin can be your deposit and it would definitely will yield good returns. You may divide your into 5 parts and may consider five different investment opportunities including bank deposit and bitcoins.
1559  Other / Archival / Re: Harsh crypto winter for all categories of crypto users on: December 11, 2022, 01:39:10 PM
Interesting statistics, especially on the layoffs, there is absolutely zero buzz about so many employees being laid off by these big exchanges
I am not finding anything to my interest here because layoffs are happening everywhere as we are slowly heading toward recession, 2008 like situation and we may witness more worsen scenes incoming days if inflation rate will not be in control. Good thing might be the crypto industry got upgraded themselves to a level like how traditional business are working which must be another reason why it is suffering when others do.

this year, a record number of employees involved in various crypto companies were laid off. More than 10,000 employees lost their jobs in a year
When this is not happening only in crypto space, I guess this is not fair to call 'harsh crypto winter'; it must be 'harsh winter' for world wide economy and crypto is now just part of it.
1560  Economy / Economics / Re: Share Your Best Money Advice Based on Personal Experience on: December 10, 2022, 08:18:03 PM
Another big and major advice is that you should not act like you have when you do not have, that is, don't act rich when you are broke. You should not be ashamed to say you cannot afford something out of embarrassment. Another major reason why you should not act rich when you are broke, is so that people that intend to help you, will not look at you like you do not need help because of your act, when you truly do. I have met persons that their situation needs helping, but they are still too proud or not true enough to themselves to act sincerely, instead they keep telling lies and acting okay, truth is, nobody will force help on you, before someone can help you, you have to help yourself by accepting that you need help.
I don't know what you mean by "help," but I don't agree with you one hundred percent. If you read or watch the stories of people who have achieved success, then they never allow themselves the thought that they have no money, or they should make people feel pity. A person must achieve everything himself and not depend on someone else; this is the first rule of successful people. Acting like a rich person is not about spending your money right and left. Rich people always know how to manage their money, and just thinking that I deserve it and have it or will have it has always worked positively.
Unfortunately almost all of the people at the top had someone they partnered with, and we do not have that. Sure Elon may look like he did it all by himself, but he was partnered with other people on his earlier startups, and he just took over tesla, didn't founded it. Or Jeff Bezos, who partnered with capital firm to get his first 250k to get started, in 90's that was good enough to buy maybe 10 houses in some places, obviously many people had 250k and didn't build amazon out of it, but still not alone.

Or Bill Gates and his high school friend he founded microsoft with or mark zuckerberg or all the people he first worked with. All alone is not possible, nobody has all the talent to build a company all by themselves.
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