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1941  Economy / Gambling / Re: ▄■▀■▄ 🌟BITVEST.io🌟 💰WIN BY 🔶PLAY 📈INVEST➡🔺🎲🎰🔲 | BET CONTEST ▄■▀■▄ on: September 16, 2021, 05:50:09 PM
No vault or self-exclusion, that's one of the main factors users that can't withdraw their funds lose most or all of them.

Been there, done that.
I understand the vault part, because many people want to lock their money away to keep them from gambling until it is withdrawn, that makes sense. However I never understood the pressure casinos get about self-exclusion, why is that? I mean if you want to not gamble and want to keep yourself away from it, then requesting the casino to not earn any money from you makes zero sense. Do you go to apple, or Tesla, or Amazon and say that you want to be excluded? You do not, they wouldn't care about you.

If you want bad stuff examples, then does any cigarette companies decline to sell to you? They would be willing to sell it to a cancer patient let alone a regular person, hell they sell it to kids! How about obese people who can't get any fast food, have you seen anything like that? Self-exclusion is something people force to casinos and no casino should be held accountable for not having it.
1942  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- Group Stage! on: September 16, 2021, 04:11:42 PM
After this game, I think Pochettino will try to figure out the best combination of players. I don't know if we should see Mbappe, Neymar and Messi at the same time from the beginning. It might look better to not start with them and play with Icardi or Di Maria then switch tactics and players to confuse the opponent.
BTW AFAIK PSG is the most favourite team to get CL title this season according to bookies. I doubt Real Madrid could get it, Chelsea, City and ManU are way better, even PSG is better regardless of this bad result.
I do not think that it was the combination of players that was the problem, it was just the team getting used to it. Have we ever seen Mbappe-Neymar-Messi before this game? I do not think that we have seen them before and this was the first time. So, let's not rush into changing the roster constantly in order to get the team playing better, we could just let the roster be exactly like it is and we would have a better team gradually when they get used to playing with each other.

Neymar and Messi played before so they shouldn't be too difficult but Mbappe is not used to Messi and that will take some time but it will eventually happen. I am just still so shocked that they are using Navas at goalkeeping position, just doesn't make sense at all.
1943  Economy / Economics / Re: @Deloitte: "The fiat currency will be gone in 5 to 10 years". on: September 15, 2021, 08:46:09 PM
I don't think fiat money will be gone in the future. 5 to 10 years is still a short period of time to be fully transitioned to digital money and digital wallet all in all. It would be hard most especially for the poor and developing countries to adapt and adjust to such changes. In addition, I don't think that the government and the central organizations would allow such a thing to happen given that the fiat currency is what runs the economy of a country. If everything will be digitalized, many people will have a difficult time such as the older generations, indigenous people, and the lower class. Because not everyone is privileged enough to have smartphones, Internet connection, and knowledge about the technology.

What I think is the most probable situation that could happen in the next 5 to 10 years is that digital assets and physical fiat will coexist as mediums of exchange. People will have more options and alternative for paying for their transactions may it be online or face to face scenarios. Hopefully, improvements on transacting with either mediums will be smooth and hassle free, giving the convenience and security to both buyer and merchants.
Obviously fiat money will not be gone. However believe me when I say this, when there is a fall it will not be slow and painful, it will be very quick. Because at the end of the day, bitcoin is a much better version of money than fiat we know all of that, what is fiat really?

It is just showing a paper that proves that you do have that much money, normally that was a gold thing, you deposited gold to a bank and they gave you a piece of paper that showed that you owned that much gold, that turned into the fiat you hold in your hands these days, or digitally in your bank account. It really sucks, and when people start to realize this, and everyone starts to move to crypto, the crash of fiat will not be slow at all, it will literally crash.
1944  Economy / Economics / Re: Boost of a countries economy on: September 15, 2021, 06:21:49 PM
The thing is, there will most prolly not be a good relationship between Bitcoin and governments, and that's basically just cause Bitcoin is decentralized and governments like to work with only centralized services that they can control either completely or to a certain extent, it's quite clear to governments of today that it's impossible for them to get a foothold on Bitcoin, thus they will rather sanction/ban/regulate it than adopt it.

Having said that, as far as a country's economy is concerned, I think there are very few ways Bitcoin can be of help, Bitcoin is money and you'll most likely need to have money in fiat to get Bitcoin or offer one service or the other to get it, it is not distributed for free, and even if many citizens of a country hold Bitcoin, I don't see how it can positively affect the economy. It's the duty of the government to provide what is necessary in order to improve their economic situation, if the government does such, then Bitcoin can only be an addition.
I do not agree with that at all. First of all you are probably talking about big nations, because "bitcoin and governments do not have a good relation" is destroyed by the fact that El Salvador literally made it a legal tender. Secondly in USA we have coinbase both being super legal and nobody says anything about it AND it got to be in the stock market as well, nobody will let an illegal company be there so it is totally legit.

In many other nations' exchanges are there and nobody says anything about it. Do you really think that exchanges are alright but coin itself is not? What is the point of the exchange if the coins are not alright? So, it is obvious that there is a good chance we are talking about something that is fine by governments. I think there are few, North Korea, china and the likes may not like it that is understandable but that's about it.
1945  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: F1 Formula Sports Racing - Sportsbet.io promotions & discussion thread on: September 15, 2021, 03:35:49 PM
Well, I think that these kinds of highlight play and drama keep the hype alive. For example, if I see the same dull and dull gameplay everyday, I'd get bored to be honest. And I mainly blame Max for the clash over Hamilton. Hamilton was getting out of the pit and Max was coming straight to him. On the next corner, they were alongside each other and Max braked late which led him crashing with Hamilton Lewis. If he had braked earlier, this would have never happened. Pretty unfortunate for him as he got a penalty of 3 grid and maybe a penalty of 2 points.
I agree, whenever my favorite driver is in a crash that adds a lot more fun to it. I like Lando Norris the most, but I rather see Mazepin to see Lewis keep winning, it becomes so boring, when he first won I was very happy and for a while longer as well but for the past 2-3 seasons it is like "yeah Lewis won, what is new?" and made it boring honestly. Same with Bundesliga Bayern, same with Serie A Juventus until last year, or PSG with Ligue 1 until last season.

I do not have anything else against Lewis, if he changes teams, goes to another team and wins again? Wow that would be so freaking awesome, I would love to watch that as well. It is just that Mercedes and Lewis keeps winning all the time and this makes it boring, it should be race, not "let's see who becomes second". So, whenever Max attacks and wins, that makes it more interesting, quite honestly I do not like Max personally neither, dude looks too aggressive and snob but at least it is definitely see a competition then just a hopeless track.
1946  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 14, 2021, 09:54:43 PM
Those stats are as expected. Ronaldo's move in my opinion, was the bigger move compared to that of Messi and one interesting fact is that Cr7 moved to a team where he already had plenty of fans that have been following him fir years even when he was at Madrid or Juve, there were man utd fans that "fully" supported him.  Back at Man Utd, it's just like an homecoming king. Always knew it'd be like this.
I didn't know that jersey sales were this big in football. I mean I knew that there are jersey sales and that is definitely some sort of income for the teams, especially when it is combined as merch sales (scarfs and flags and hats and other stuff etc, ALL shop sales) it becomes big. However, I didn't know it was huge like this, like 181 million pounds from ONE player? That sounds like a huge deal to me honestly.

I always wondered why players like Ronaldo still get a lot more money than any other player, after all he is getting older so I assumed he would be getting less and less but apparently it is not always about just how he plays, it is also about how much he makes for the team as well, if he was given 50 million per year for 3 years then the team would still be in profit, considering more sales coming in even 4 years would eventually be profit.
1947  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Good time for all ALTcoin on: September 14, 2021, 08:56:29 PM
Are those the shitcoin in your pocket now? why not Add your signature banner, still not paying ?  Grin

Solid project is indeed the best to invest , but the thing in our market now is how can we really tell it is a good project?
when everyone tries to pretend they are one but in the end it is also a scam.
we are tired of this Shit so best not to include a name instead let them search to decide.
Well, the thing about the current situation is there are also good ones that try to be good and high and loved by everyone but they fail so they turn to look like a scam even when they are not. We always had scams, we will always have scams that is never going to end but the amount of good intended horrible coins are increasing in a rapid way because it is so easy to build a new project with DEFI world right now.

NFT requires a bit more coding and specially design but at the same time it is obviously a lot better to actually have something nice. I personally feel like it is definitely going to be a lot more failed projects as long as creating a new project is a very easy thing.
1948  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Not all altcoins will recover on: September 14, 2021, 06:18:25 PM
Not all altcoins will recover because currencies generally continue to rise based on their demand if the demand in the market decreases, then the certainty of these altcoins rising above them is much less likely to fall. But ethereum and BNB have market demand for these currencies but prices have risen over time this is why they survive in the market.
It's true that coin movement is still based on supply and demand,
when supply is limited and demand is increasing, of course the price of coins will go up,
it all also depends on the coin because not all altcoins will experience that and talking about Ethereum and BNB I don't think we need to doubt it after all it is the top altcoin
There are coins that create their own demand and that is the popular thing these days. If you really want to do something than you have to actually do it properly and not do it half.

There are so many coins and tokens that provide a reason to buy them, and those coins go up. Utility is the most important aspect of any coin right now, like the whole axie infinity thing is the game, without the game nobody would want to by any axies at all, why would they want any axie?

Well, people end up buying ape NFT for millions or cryptopunks so maybe there would have been a reason but I doubt that it would be as big as it is right now. Meaning that there are very good places with very good utility that end up being high priced. Aside from that I do not think that anything will go and become very big, all those useless small ones that have no utility may end up being zero.
1949  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: September 14, 2021, 11:03:28 AM
teams have settled down and be ready for the upcoming season. And Ben trade rumour could still be just heating up. I'm still speculating that Ben will be traded though before the start of full season.

In any case, if someone is interested on the outright NBA champions here are the odds from sportsbet:


It is quite wide open to win a big odd championship with these. Considering the odds are high for all the other teams, I would say throwing in equal pays to Bucks, Warriors, Clippers, Nuggets all could be a great deal. Don't get me wrong I am not saying that Lakers or Nets will not be champions, it is obvious that one of them will likely be the champions but if we have an injured player in those teams then anything could happen.

We are considering these two to win the league because they are healthy and good on paper, but Lakers didn't suck last season neither, they were a good team yet they got injured and had a horrible ending to the season. Which is why I believe that we should definitely see that potential from both teams again and maybe throw in some small amount to other teams as well.
1950  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Anderson Silva vs Tito Ortiz on September 11 on: September 13, 2021, 06:50:22 PM
Did anyone watch it? I reckon Anderson Silva was very fortunate he connected a lucky punch on the head of Tito Ortiz. Ortiz was beginning his attack with strong punches and very fast hand speed with similar head movement like Mike Tyson’s peekaboo strategy.
That's not a lucky punch and fortunate.

It was perfectly timed. It was already anticipated that an opening will happen soon although the question is when. Silva managed to take that opportunity and wasted no time to react, like a usual fighter's instinct. I'm expecting the fight to be a decision but ended up early.

The unfortunate one is we didn't see the action of Oscar Dela Hoya because of Covid-19.
You could punch a person a million times and not knock them out, or you could punch just once and knock them out cold, or hell if wrongly punched in other circumstances even maybe kill them, many people died from getting punched before. So, boxing is a very risky but also lucky sport, you are putting your life into danger by going out all the time, but since these are professional fighters they know what is what and glove severely drops the death rate by a million.

Yet in no way or shape, just because there was an opening and Silva managed to hit a counter punch, doesn't mean that it would become a knock out punch each time, replicate that a thousand times and maybe 10-20% of that becomes a KO, normally boxers get punched like that all the time and move like nothing happened. So that punch was definitely a bit lucky, of course it was calculated punch that is 100% expected to connect, but it could have just hurt and move on, that KO impact of it was the lucky part.
1951  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: F1 Formula Sports Racing - Sportsbet.io promotions & discussion thread on: September 12, 2021, 09:32:51 PM
Honestly, I am still not warmed up to the idea of these sprints. FIA is trying to do something that would put a lot more entertainment, after all this is just a race and if no drama happens then it will get boring very quickly. Look at Monaco, how many people actually loves Monaco when there is absolutely no passing or anything, of course there could be some situations where cars crash, or pit makes a mistake and all that but aside from that it is boring, people usually finish where they start.

All those boring stuff, all those "either Max or Hamilton will win, rarely anyone else" situations ended up with a lot of problems for viewership numbers, so FIA tries to find something fresh to give more stuff to viewers. However is it really the sprint that we should be looking for? I mean is it really the sprint that makes the difference? I have to say this is definitely not the thing that makes me watch the race at all, it is the pit strategies that is the most entertaining part aside from what happens on the track.
1952  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is the crypto hype over? on: September 12, 2021, 08:32:20 PM
I don't think Elon musks not tweeting about Dogecoins and Bitcoin has made people lost interest in cryptocurrencies these days, and even the mining issues from china is actually going to turn out to be more positive than negative IMO because we understand what was happening when most of the miners were located in china. As for crypto Hype, I believe that crypto is still very much in play, people will always think this when the market is in a down trend.
That's there are also a lot of people who don't follow Elon Musk and Elon Musk will not dictate the future of cryptocurrency, only beginners will believe Elon Musk, the hype wont get over in the world of crypto, we are always trending in Twitter and it only means that there are really a lot of people who is in crypto world and we are still new, there are still a huge possibility of a mass adaption in the near future. What more will happen if we will be known of all the people in this world.
Unfortunately even though there are many people that do not follow Elon Musk, there are also a lot that do. I do not follow him, I hear about his tweets around here, like all those doge increases didn't make any sense to me at all when I saw it first, then I checked bitcointalk for a few days and eventually people started to open topics about him, which is where I heard it from.

There are a lot of people like me, a lot of people who do not even use twitter, and that is true, however doge still went up way more than we imagined right? It was less than a cent a year ago, look where it is right now, and even the peak price back few months ago. So, even though there are people like me, prices still go up because of people like Elon, only because there are also people unlike me who check Elon all the time. Which is why we can't say that he doesn't matter.
1953  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 11, 2021, 09:50:45 PM
Marco Asensio is actually a very decent player but Real Madrid have many alternatives for the right wing like Rodrygo, Gareth Bale and Lucas Vasquez. Asensio can play as a left winger also but they have Eden Hazard and Vinicius Junior there for him to compete with.
Bale, Hazard, and Vázquez deserve to put on the transfer list, they are no longer young and cannot show the best performance. I think Real Madrid may consider selling these players in the next transfer window if there is no improvement in their performance. So, Asensio is better to stay in Real Madrid because they probably give more chances for Asensio to play in the next season. To remember that Asensio's position is a right-winger (the same as Bale, Vázquez, and Rodrygo). While Hazard and Vinícius play as Left Wingers. Basically, he doesn't compete in the position to play with Hazard and Vinícius.
I believe all those "excess" players will be sold next year when they get Mbappe. That way they will create a lot of salary cap, and get another star with Mbappe. Think about how much they are paying for those players all combined, hell I would put even Benzema there because when you get Mbappe you can get rid of Benzema. When all of those players salaries combined it comes out to a super star level players salary easily, even more than that. Which is why I believe that they should not be selling those players now, do it next off-season and they could get another superstar with the money they save from that. Obviously it will be hard to find a team for all of them, it is cleaning the house and takes time but they could do that.
1954  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: September 11, 2021, 09:23:47 PM
Well, with UCL coming up, and the "will not play" are just "coaches decision" and not an injury for neymar and messi and di maria, that looks like they will be ready for the next week. It is still not nice to not be able to watch them at full squad. I want to see donnaruma at goal, ramos at center, wijnaldum at midfield and the famous messi-mbappe-neymar trio at the front. We haven't had that game yet, but I am 100% sure that we will have that team eventually. When that happens, and it becomes the norm because just 20 minutes with someone subbed in is not enough and they need few games to get used to each other, then it will be a blast.

You may like PSG or you may dislike them but you can't deny that the team is definitely one of the best with how those players lined up. With the team coming together into something like this, they will be unstoppable even at UCL if you ask me.
1955  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Uniswap Labs investigated by SEC, what is your opinion? on: September 11, 2021, 03:20:23 PM
If the SEC's intent is only to know how users use the exchange, I have no problem with that but knowing the SED thanks to their past dealings in the crypto space, I'd say there's more to it. It's no longer news that people have been delving into Defi in numbers while utilizing decentralized exchanges and AMM protocols like Uniswap for basically everything a CEX has especially now that regulations and rules on centralized exchanges have become more strict. My opinion is that the SEC would most likely have other intents and that's a bad news for us because they won't stop at Uniswap but proceed to others.
SEC is basically researching if they could somehow punish and write a ticket. This is nothing more than "let's see if you make money and what way, if we find something wrong then we will punish you with the highest rate we could give you". This is a typical stuff that SEC likes to do, it allows them to assert their power while also earning some money as well.

I am not saying that they are useless, they do find real life criminals as well, but we all know wall street jokes about SEC let alone be scared of it. SEC will basically be asking bribes on this, they always do, anything that crypto world does, if you pay enough to SEC then you will get to do it without a problem at all. Even the biggest criminals get away with everything as long as they pay SEC and do not screw over other rich people, those are the two requirements to be a criminal in finance.
1956  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2022 NBA Season on: September 10, 2021, 08:08:23 PM
Weird to see Deandre Jordan still getting decent payoff. I mean don't get me wrong he was an all-star caliber Center back in the day but 10 million a year for him? Are we really sure he worths that? Maybe some of that is paid by Nets or something and I do not have all the bits and pieces. Dude was a 7.5 points 7.5 rebounds per game Center. In any case it feels like Lakers doesn't have one proper Center so instead they got 3 veteran ones to cover the difference.

Howard, Gasol, Jordan get together and could certainly create a 48 minute Center rotation, put a bit of AD in there and you got yourself 10-12 minute per game 3 big guys. I would rather not have any of them and just have one proper Center, but they couldn't get one apparently. Rest of the team looks great as well, it certainly is a team to beat in NBA right now, they have all the great pieces to compete for a title.
1957  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin going to $53k or down to $48k? (Bullish Scenario) on: September 10, 2021, 06:23:06 PM
The pandemic has indeed made most people experience an economic crisis, so it is not easy to consistently hold the Bitcoin that we have.
Sometimes there is often a sudden urgent need, which eventually makes us forced to sell the Bitcoin that we have partially. There is nothing wrong with doing that, because there are priorities in our lives. Instead of forcing holding Bitcoin, but their daily needs are not met. If one day we have extra money, we can buy Bitcoin again. So no need to worry, we definitely have another chance to be able to buy Bitcoin. Moreover, the price of Bitcoin is volatile, so there is always a moment when the price of Bitcoin is correcting, that's our chance to buy Bitcoin. As of now the price of Bitcoin has dropped to $46k, but I believe this is only temporary, Bitcoin will recover soon.
Nobody tells you to sell the coins that you have. However when bitcoin goes down and you sell then it means it wasn't for a need. The talk here is not keeping your coins even while having urgent needs, it is about how you should not sell your coins just because it moved from 52k levels to 45k levels.

If you are selling just because the price went down then you are making a big wrong decision that you should not be doing at all. Obviously you should sell when you have emergency, nearly all the profits I made in my crypto life went to paying for hospital bills, for myself (not big deal, mostly dentists because I have genetic tooth problems) and my parents, my wives parents, and my wife has injection (sort of similar to diabetic insulin) and so forth.

Basically I made maybe 10x profit from crypto on all my investments and I had to cash them all out and now I have nearly nothing compared to what I could have, but I also have zero debt as well. I still wouldn't sell right now, would wait and sell later to pay for my debt.
1958  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will $50,000 be the resistant price? on: September 10, 2021, 01:43:46 PM
Manipulation in crypto world is very easy because if you are a rich person nobody will put you in jail or give you a billion dollar penalty for insider trading. Like you could get together with bunch of billionaires, and buy it all together, in turns, and make it go up and up and up. Basically do a pump and dump on bitcoin itself, and nothing will happen to you.
Yeah, manipulations are part of every market. After what happened recently, I have to say that breaking over 50k and staying above 50k will be a tough task. I mean we did manage to break over 50k multiple times and I am 100% sure that we will do that again, but doing it and staying there are very different stuff.

If we could manage to go up and stay there for a long time then we will actually see a breakout and the price will be very high, however if we do it and manage to fail then it will definitely drop a lot more than it did this time. Remember price always "tries", it either tries to go down or it tries to go up, if it tries to go down but fails to do it too much, only drops 5-10% then it will start to go up because people will think "well it tried to go down and failed meaning it is a great time to buy since only direction left is up", and exactly the reverse right now because it tried to go up and failed, meaning down is the only way left.
1959  Economy / Speculation / Re: Dream Bitcoin 100k on: September 09, 2021, 07:49:31 PM
I agree we cannot predict the exact price of bitcoin, all we can do is to predict but sometimes prediction is not accurate, everything is always depends on the news or updates and development status of Bitcoin and of there is a good news soon it will maybe reach 100K$ but if there is a bad news it will also sure drop. All we can do in this bullish trend is to control our emotions.
That's good mate we need to still be more vegilant on investing, because investing in bullish market is risky than investing in to dip. We now need a big capital to invest because most of the crypto coin is rising and their price now is really expensive, so we need to set a limit price to avoid big loss if ever the price will fall. All I can suggest is always set a limitation and don't be greedy.
Altcoins are not doing that horrible right now I believe. I mean yes they had the same drop that bitcoin had, and that is a bad thing, but at the same time they are doing not so bad on the recovery part as well. So many coins are getting better compared to few days ago. At the end of the day we had a drop, and that drop did upset a lot of people but we should not be focusing on that and forgetting about everything else.

What we should be doing is basically keeping bitcoin going for a while longer, not allow it to drop and then you will see that recovery will be awesome. If you believe that the whales who sold bitcoin to make it drop this much will not have a big increase to make it go up this much as well, then you are wrong.
1960  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 09, 2021, 02:03:54 PM
Is Bouna Sarr really hoping that he will be in the starting eleven? It is a really funny thing honestly.  Grin  Because Bayern Munich already have Benjamin Pavard and Josip Stanisic on this position. They both are young and very talented right-backs. So, Bouna Sarr should be thinking of leaving the team to join a decent club already. It is very hard for him to get even a chance in the second half. He can play only if one or both of Pavard and Stanisic gets injured.
I do not get these people trying act as if going to Turkish league is demanding for them. Yes, if it was Ronaldo or someone like that then I would understand but Bouna is not playing any games on Bayern unless there is a huge fatigue problem with injuries all around, even at that case they would prefer a youth player to take the ropes and get experience if they didn't have Sarr so it is nothing for Bayern. Hell Pjanic moved to Besiktas the other day, PJANIC,, if he can go to Besiktas then so can Sarr, even would be worse for Besiktas and they are lucky that Sarr declined and instead they got Pjanic.

I hope that Bayern doesn't do something stupid and try to fire the guy though, even if he doesn't worth much, he still worths some money and they could make a profit on him, they need to keep him at the team until they could simply get a decent offer.
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