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1121  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Drug free in the Philippines on: December 10, 2016, 05:33:58 PM
alcohol is a drug of choice still and its legal to most countries including Philippines. in the home town of DUTERTE, drinking alcohol after 12midnight is already prohibited and a bunch of military officers will approach people in the bars telling its their last bottles.

Apparently the people of the Philippines need their government to treat them like children.

They need Big Brother to tell them when to stop drinking, when to go to bed, how to wipe their ass, etc.

Can you imagine the military telling grown-ass people in Portugal it's time to stop drinking at midnight?   Grin

That's the difference between a civilized society made up of reasonably free adults and an authoritarian shithole of childlike savages ruled by a demagog.
1122  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: THE RISE AND RISE OF MONERO on: December 10, 2016, 05:11:18 PM
If any coin can be Bitcoin 2.0, its probably Monero.

Monero cant be Bitcoin 2.0, that are other coins that fight for that title.

Monero is just more Bitcoin 1.0 as Bitcoin itself.

Monero is Bitcoin 2.0 as much as pepper is salt 2.0.

IOW, Monero is complementary to Bitcoin, not descended from it.

But the problem about Monero is that it is a botnet coin, there will be constant selling from the botnet operators.

Bitcoin is doing fine, despite having been mined by everything from rouge Steam updates to Smart Toasters.

The nice thing about the Work in Proof-of-Work is that it's fungible.

So it doesn't matter whether the Work is performed by Evil Botnets or Wiley Chinee or Aunt Millie's GPU rig.
1123  Economy / Goods / Re: WTS Premium Chocolate bars (US only) on: December 09, 2016, 08:39:55 AM
Finally taking orders  Cheesy

I want raw/fresh/organic cocoa beans, preferably whole.  Nibs are ok too.

Sorry, but according to fda regulations I can't ship raw food.  Sad

They just want you to kill any bugs/germs, not cook it.

A brief microwave or steam Pasteurization will do it.

If not, I'd buy lightly roasted beans too.   Cool
1124  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 09, 2016, 01:53:42 AM

The irony...

Exactly.  This is a terrible idea. 

So, having endured the endless Monero trolling for years, we are now going to throw away our credibility by doing the same thing?

If I didn't know Tao, or is it "Mr. CashAlternative" these days, is a well meaning guy, I would think it was sabotage.

What's next, the Dash Hasbara team?  The Dash Troll Army?

Please let's reconsider, and nip this thing in the bud, before I begin to be ashamed of Dash.

This campaign STINKS.

Wait a second.  Why are you assuming this will be trolling?  The idea behind this campaign is to get the word out, not attack others.  Nowhere does it say to attack others, and certainly we can watch out for such actions and immediately denounce them.

Maybe I don't fully understand what the boys are doing, but so far it just seems they want to make an interconnected web where comments can be found through searching or surfing??

I think the idea is to spam, not troll.
1125  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XVC] Vcash (former [VNL] Vanillacoin) cryptocurrency unmoderated discussion on: December 08, 2016, 07:49:38 AM
i'm sure my doctor will be drinking martinis and snorting pot off of a nurse's ass during surgery.  And afterwards, he's going to go buy some cheap Vcash. 


I love this thread sew much!
1126  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: PSA: cypherdoc is a paid shill, liar and probably epic scammer: HashFast affair on: December 07, 2016, 08:17:48 AM
You were given a 105% refund of the ASIC's purchase price.  You felt like you were too good and pure to cash the filthy evil check.

You petulantly decided you were entitled to a 1000% refund, which is also called a "windfall" and not allowed in standard contract interpretation.
I responded back with a copy of a written statement from hashfast that said something like "yes in the event that we fail to deliver we will return your XX Bitcoins, not the price of the devices we understand the the price of bitcoin is volatile." and asked them politely to explain the discrepancy between our clearly stated written agreement and what they were sending. Not even a response. Shameful business practices.

And you claim I influenced others? AFAIK, morci's lawsuit began months before I had any complaint, when hashfast slipped its first targets.


HF had more important things to do than respond to your lulzy demand for a magical pony named Windfall.  You can't get blood from a turnip.

I need primary sources, not hearsay, to reach a valid conclusion here.  Have you posted your customized HF contract?

Regardless, I'm not sure if any one person (even an executive/founder) has the power to make the entire corporate entity responsible for the unlimited liability represented by your interpretation of Simon's statement(s).

Why not ask for 3rd party escrow or multisig?  Did Simon say you'd get back the exact same Bitcoins, down to the last untainted Satoshi?
1127  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: PSA: cypherdoc is a paid shill, liar and probably epic scammer: HashFast affair on: December 07, 2016, 07:32:29 AM
a small litigious group who unreasonably demanded refunds in BTC (like Greg)

I just saw this now, but it should be clear I have _never_ been party to any litigation against hashfast.  They tried to send me a "refund" check that was totally at odds with our clear written agreement so I returned it, when I complained they never even responded.  They never sent me any hardware.  I chose to not litigate because the time and risk to my personal safety couldn't possibly be compensated by whatever tiny amount I could get out of the clearly bankrupt company which had since managed to dispose of most of its valuable assets.

The fact that people apparently associated wish Hashfast keep harassing me over the internet is seriously irritating, however.

You were given a 105% refund of the ASIC's purchase price.  You felt like you were too good and pure to cash the filthy evil check.

You petulantly decided you were entitled to a 1000% refund, which is also called a "windfall" and not allowed in standard contract interpretation.

So you got nothing.  Even worse, your arrogance and presumption fed the litigiousness of others who initiated lawsuits that ultimately ruined the chances of all HF customers to see a positive ROI.  No wonder they keep harassing you over the internet!   Tongue

And now you're giving the Gavinistas ammo by risking your Reddit account/reputation just because you feel so entitled to link Frap.doc's True Name with his alleged misdeeds (which have been repudiated by the Courts, but don't let facts get in the way of a good 2 Minutes Hate).
1128  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Greg Maxwell aka /u/nullc is banned from Reddit on: December 07, 2016, 06:59:13 AM
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I already told you the "then what" if BTC had gone to a buck: Frap.doc would be S.O.L.

It's only fair he enjoy the reward, since he embraced the risk.  Especially since that reward came with the externality of reputation damage.

We agree-- that if an agreement was X bitcoin, it should be honored as that for better or worse-- and that cypherdoc was granted a windfall in exchange for his reputation, so why do you seem to have forgotten your prior position?



Yes, it sucks for us customers that HF made a stupid, ruinous mistake by gambling with that much exposure to BTC price changes and then losing the bet.  It would have been nice for Frap.doc to have loaned the windfall back to them, for the sake of his fellow customers, but that's his decision.

I said the reputation damage was an externality.  Your framing makes it seem like that unintended consequence was a premeditated central part of the (supposedly devious criminal) contract between Frap.doc and HF.

The court and dozens of hungry lawyers have dissected the famous contract between Frap.doc and HF; they found nothing untoward.  Get over it.  This HF Derangement Syndrome is bad for you and bad for Bitcoin.

The 9% sales commission BTC payment was made for the trouble he took to meet up with them and write up/discuss his endorsement on the forum.  That helped get Batch 1 sold out ASAP, a huge help in making ROI.  That wasn't being "paid for essentially nothing".  I simply noted the fact the payment became a windfall helps compensate for the collateral reputation damage.

Frap.doc's contract with HF is not the same as your sales agreement, unless you somehow got a customized one from Simon.

Perhaps since BTC had been stable around $100 at the time Simon made the statement under the assumption that stability would continue.

Did you ask him how he planned to keep your BTC in the Secret HF Stash, w/r/t opsec?  You'd normally be very interested in that sort of thing.

Why not suggest some multisig, or 3rd party escrow?  You know those are best practices from being here so long.   Grin

These questions suggest your narrative's internal logic is faulty.

I see zero evidence Simon or anyone else guaranteed to refund all your BTC no matter what, even if they went to a million USD or whatever.

Offering refunds to be paid in BTC was done as a courtesy so customers getting refunds wouldn't have to turn the refund fiat back into BTC again.

Where did I "threaten legal action?"  I don't believe I did, in fact I was first among the many cautioning the deranged litigious windfall-seekers against getting lawyers involved with HF.

I'm certainly not trying to cow you with threats of litigation, just pointing out that doxxing, libel, and harassment are illegal in California/America.  However, I will continue to cow you with facts and logic.   Cheesy

I'm not Frap.doc's "buddy" for taking his side on this any more than I'm your buddy for siding with you against him in the Grand Schism.

I've never met Frap.doc, but the one time you and I interacted IRL was when you paid me a compliment for some insight.  I was so happy to get an atta-boy from the CTO of Bitcoin!  I wish we could get past the HF toxicity and be buddies since we both plan to be in Bitcoin for the duration of the experiment.   Embarrassed


We need you on Reddit fighting the good fight.  It's ridiculous you're handing the r/btc turds ammo.

We were both HF customers but at some point our POVs diverged.  Everything I predicted came true.  Nothing you predicted came to pass.

It's not scientific to reject results because they dispute your preconceived ideas.  Two separate court cases now indicate your anti-Hashfast ideas may require recalibration.

That's why risking your Reddit account/reputation just to die on the Frap.doc-owes-me-a-windfall-so-he's-a-public-figure hill of error propagation is so disappointing.

As I already explained, "Cypherdoc values his personal privacy/security and never intended for his handle to be connected to his True Name."  So please stop making him the white whale for your Captain Ahab.
1129  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Greg Maxwell aka /u/nullc is banned from Reddit on: December 07, 2016, 02:58:00 AM
GMAX was sent a refund check for 105% of the purchase price, but was too pure (IE stubborn) to cash it and thus admit the once-popular 'we-all-deserve-windfall-refunds' entitlement theory is flawed.

I have a written contract from hashfast saying that if they failed to deliver I would receive a full refund of the amount of BTC paid. I directly reached out to Simon Barber to double check this fact, due to the frequent mining scams that had previously happened where there was no intention to create mining hardware but simply to refund "dollars" if Bitcoin appreciated, and Bitcoins if the market moved the other direction. Marc Lowe also confirmed hashfast's refund policies in public.  Without those assurances I never would have made a purchase, just as I never purchased from BFL, and the same is true for many other early hashfast buyers.

Yes, I previously noted your resolute fact-be-damned insistence on remaining committed to the formerly popular windfall-providing interpretation of HF's TOS.

But believing in your personal interpretation as hard as you can and stomping your feet won't change the fact windfalls are precluded by common law notions of equity.  That's why PMorici's fraud case went nowhere, and after spinning his wheels for a while he finally moved to dismiss his own case!  That outcome has been obvious since Ettinger's devastating initial Response to Morici's Complaint.  I told you so, over and over.

Any lawyer (who isn't incompetent outside of the narrow domain of IP law) will confirm windfalls are frowned upon by the legal system.  "Full refund provided in BTC" means you get back via BTC the purchase price, which was denominated in USD.

This isn't hard.  You don't get to reasonably expect all your Bitcoins back 'No Matter What Even If They Are Worth 10 Million Dollars.'

I was disabused of that faulty notion by a bright young law student in about 30 seconds and felt silly for ever having subscribed to such an unbalanced, impossible, self-serving idea.  It's been two years and you are still bitterly clinging.  What's your excuse?  Don't want the lawyer who told you to settle for nothing less than a windfall to be mad at you, for fear of the p-whip?   Grin

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It's very fitting that this illegal and obnoxious pattern of behavior brought down the Reddit
Marc has repeated posted my personal information gleamed from hashfast records, including my shipping address-- great fodder for the nutbags threatening my life, no doubt--  If he thought any of my behaviors were illegal he'd certainly be able to begin litigation.  Give me a break.

The guy traded his reputation for a huge windfall, he has nothing to cry about.  No one's reputation is worth anything if someone's reputation isn't trashed if they put it on the line to promote something and that thing turns out to be a major loss for all involved. That is what you paid him for, unless you want to argue that he was paid 3000 BTC for something _other_ than putting a valuable reputation on the line? (such as, say, tunneling funds out of the company?).   Besides, regardless of the shenanigans at hashfast, he directly lied to me-- claiming that he was just another customer paid by discounted units, which never shipped leaving him at a loss too-- to try to evade a reputational hit. On that basis alone I don't have any reservation in saying that he's a dishonest coward.  

And bringing it back on-topic-- AFAICT, there is NO post on Reddit where I disclose any personal information about him. And the reddit administration already confirmed that the issue in question was the gavinandresen@gmail.com email address.

Cypherdoc was always transparent; he fully disclosed his compensated endorser status at the very top of his Hashfast Endorsement Thread OP.

Asking a potential scammer "are you a scammer?" is not due diligence.  Hashfast obviously wasn't a fly-by-night based on the fact its founders had a previously successful start up, physical location in California, contracts with Uniquify/TSCM, etc.

As I already said, Frap.doc desired privacy and is not a public figure, so your frequent mentions of his True Name and associated scam accusations disclosed personal information about him.  Of course Reddit will not allow their platform to be used for your witch hunt (and neither should Theymos, who is likewise sensitive about being doxed).

I won't defend Frap.doc doxxing you, that was obviously wrong, although I will note the only reason everyone including dangerous nutbags knows your shipping address is the mass doxxing accomplished by the spectacularly ill-advised and monumentally useless bankruptcy lawsuit.  Heck of a job, Brownie!

The hivemind's "tunnling" accusation has been made for over two years and went nowhere in court.  Repeating an Officially refuted accusation of a criminal act like tunneling is called defamation.  When it's written on the internet, that's called libel.  When you post it in a way that encourages mob justice, that's called harassment at best and incitement at worst.

It's not reasonable to believe Frap.doc and Hashfast knew in advance Bitcoin would enjoy a 10-fold price increase and thus conspired to tunnel assets out.  9% is a bog standard normal industry rate for independent sales contractors.

Your claim of tunneling has been demonstrated to be false.  It was rubbish all along, just like the 'secret mine' and 'secret escrow' and all the other debunked HF conspiracy theories.

We all though HF had a great shot at success and they came close despite the target moving rapidly away towards the end.

Let's see what cypherdoc actually said, as primary sources are superior to interpretation (unless the interpreter is Peter Wuille).
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The fact that HashFast itself is composed of Simon Barber and his team of 4 scientists makes them a force unto themselves from the development perspective.  The fact that HashFast has direct access to the team of 28nm world renowned scientists from Uniquify to design the physical layout of the chip makes them a combined force to be feared.  Simon is an academic from Cambridge University and has been involved in the Bitcoin community from the beginning. How many ASIC mining companies have an engineer employed at PARC? He has written a seminal paper on Bitcoin theory and economics which has contributed greatly to our understanding of just what is Bitcoin.  He has been working on his proprietary version of an ASIC chip for almost 2 years.  I believe this form of long term involvement with Bitcoin, such as I have demonstrated, is critical to understanding how to design a properly functioning chip that will be fast and efficient and deliver to small and industrial miners the return on investment that they deserve.  

Eduardo de Castro is their CEO and visionary.  He has an MBA from the University of Texas at Austin.  As I have worked with him closely over the last 2 weeks, I have come to believe that Eduardo is a man with integrity, driven by the goals and beliefs of a true Bitcoiner, i.e., a belief in transparency, openness, honesty, and hard work. He believes in free markets.  I believe that Eduardo's goals are noble and that you will believe this also once he announces publicly his plan for buyer refunds and the Miner Protection Plan.  

These two principals are guiding the company's vision to be the best in industry.  I happen to think they have a great chance at achieving that.

The HashFast "BabyJet” ASIC mining machine will be a first-of-its-kind technology (400GH/s per ASIC chip, significantly less than 1 Watt per GH/s) slated for delivery by late October. Speeds greater than 400GH/s are being achieved on extensive industry-standard testing with 28nm ASIC physical design leader Uniquify.  Under 350W power draw.  Their goal is to under promise and pleasantly surprise.  The extensive testing being done has been consistent, repeatable, and surprisingly improving to extraordinary levels just in the last two weeks alone.  And let me not forget one other significant thing; this unit has water cooling.  NO MORE NOISE.  There is a God!

I have had the opportunity to look into the eyes of the principals involved as well as shake their hands.  I have worked with them closely for the past two weeks.  

I believe that these people will make a full faith effort to deliver on their promises. Whether or not they are actually able to deliver working units by November, I can’t absolutely guarantee.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=270363.0
1130  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Greg Maxwell aka /u/nullc is banned from Reddit on: December 07, 2016, 01:16:21 AM
/u/nullc is exposing HashFast cloud mining scammer

HashFast had nothing to do with "cloud mining."   Perhaps you should understand the subject matter thoroughly before parroting the hivemind's libelous, outdated, and provably counterfactual narrative (which was largely written and promulgated by GMAX).

GMAX isn't "exposing" anyone, he is continuing a campaign of online defamation and harassment against targets that according to the Bankruptcy Court have been cleared of the "scammer" accusation.

GMAX is still obsessed with getting a risk-free appreciated-BTC windfall refund for his ultra-risky ASIC preorder.  LOL.

GMAX was sent a refund check for 105% of the purchase price, but was too pure (IE stubborn) to cash it and thus admit the once-popular 'we-all-deserve-windfall-refunds' entitlement theory is flawed.

This is the only time I've seen him be wrong about something, so it's not surprising he doesn't know how to accept fault, change his mind, and move on. 

As Dr. Back says, 'if you find yourself disagreeing with GMAX about a technical matter, you're probably wrong.'  But this is a cluster of legal matters and the Dunning-Kruger effect prevents GMAX from reaching correct conclusions about scam vs bankrupt, doxing vs TOS, etc.


If you look at the facts it's clear that being banned from reddit because of that is absolute nonsense.

GMAX's libel and harassment eventually caused Cypherdoc to delete all his forum/social accounts, to the detriment of those who enjoyed his legendary GOLD COLLAPSING BITCOIN UP posts (and his silly Gavinista moaning/ranting as well).

Cypherdoc values his personal privacy/security and never intended for his handle to be connected to his True Name.  That connection only occurred as a result of the (disastrous/useless) bankruptcy lawsuit.

GMAX knows this, and likes to twist the knife as frequently as possible by mentioning cypher's True Name in connection with the (now debunked) scammer accusation.

It's very fitting that this illegal and obnoxious pattern of behavior brought down the Reddit admin BANHAMMER.  Cypherdoc is a man of means, and Conde Naste doesn't want to be held responsible should anything bad happen to Cypherdoc subsequent to his doxxing/defamation happening on their site.

You might think given how much GMAX complains about r/btc's similarly baseless and defamatory campaign of personal destruction against him, he would know better than to do the same thing to Cypherdoc, especially since the HashFast+Frap.doc scam accusation had 2 years of intense courtroom litigation to find proof of scam, yet went nowhere.
1131  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: December 04, 2016, 03:32:57 PM
When you stray away from financial speculation and analysis you're like Trump's younger brother, only more boastful and brattish.

Could you go on in PM pls... your very off-topic back and forth is tiring anyone else
1132  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XVC] Vcash (former [VNL] Vanillacoin) cryptocurrency unmoderated discussion on: December 04, 2016, 08:54:30 AM
EVERYONE knew John Connors personality was an issue. It was no secret, and I'm not defending and never did defend his personal traits. I've always said the guy puts out top code but thinks he is Einstein or Steve Jobs. Meaning "Hey I'm a genius coder and the best so I can be an @sshole to everyone like they were."  Well in crypto or any business, you need to have some social skills and be nice to at least the right people at the right time, and he obviously can't do that.

GMAX/Smooth/Fluffypony never made a big deal out of his "personality."

The issue was always his theft of Bitcoin code.

But I understand why you want to change the topic to irrelevant things you never defended, after you carried so much water for him before.

Icebreaker and Smooth, you guys really need to get over this John stole bitcoin code nonsense. I suppose you think Elon Musk stole Henry Fords formula when he decided to put tires on his Tesla car. John has already stated that there are some lines of code similiar to peercoin for compatibility and not re-inventing the wheel. Vcash is written from scratch and has almost no resemblance to bitcoin and a little resemblance to peercoin's most basic features. John also said he would credit Sonny King if Sonny wants him to. Hell he probably would even credit Satoshi Nakamoto for shits and giggles IF Satoshi asked him to. But so far he says Nick Szabo nor Sonny King has asked Smiley

Notice how this discussion isn't about JC's personality?

And neither is this one.

So if John said his code was 99% from scratch and 1% was used from btc/ppc code to maintain backwards compatibility, would that make you happy? From scratch doesn't necessarily mean 100%. When you bake a cake from scratch you don't lay the eggs yourself. I agree with Wolf, you need to get over this little sticking point. No one that owns Vcash or may own Vcash in the future cares if it is 98, 99, or 100% original code.  No one cares if John used 1% of the same code from btc or ppc that 99% of other dev's use 90% of that code. Bottom line is he used FAR, FAR less and it is fine. Now I see your point if you want to be a stickler about whether he should or should not need to acknowledge either btc or ppc legally. But to me and most people what he did is not illegal, and even if it borders on unethical or illegal or he should do it. All I can say is when the speed limit is 55mph and you drive 56mph you did something illegal. When your kid has 10,000 songs on his ipod/iphone, he did something illegal. When you watch Game of Thrones on the internet without acknowleging and paying HBO, you did something illegal. When you surf porn, like 90% of the population, you probably run across something accidentaliy that is illegal for you to view without paying the producer somehow. There are all sorts of very slightly unethical or illegal stuff that everyone on the planet does, and no one gives a fuck. I guarantee you that both Smooth and Icebreaker have done one to all of the things mentioned above. So stop being the crypto cops, riaa, mpaa, etc. It is not your job, no one cares, and go do something useful like working on your coin.  And I'm the first one to say I don't agree with everything John is and does.  Sure he most likely has a genius level IQ (as do I), he sure as hell can code and knows a lot about p2p, crypto, mining, hardware, fpga, and coding in multiple languages on multiple devices, as well as creating one hell of a good coin. But he is arrogant, stubborn, makes up his own theories and realities sometimes, bans a lot of good people from twitter, hasn't doxed himself or promoted his project yet. He thinks that it is 2009 and Vcash is as important as BTC, he thinks he needs to be anonymous like Satoshi. This ISN'T 2009. To be successful in 2016 you need a credible face behind your project and promotion. No one in Vcash cares about your little "he stole a few lines of code and didn't acknowledge it" bullshit. What we care about is that he starts doing what any successful coin's creator or CEO does. Meaning tell us who the fuck you are, what all the great projects and code you have created over the last 20 years are, and start marketing/promoting your coin and getting the world to use it.  Smooth, you don't even know who Connor is. If he came out and was someone you respected, I bet you would be buying up Vcash. That is all.

How's that not caring about stolen code working for you?

Where is your deflection now, chump?   Cheesy

#REKT
1133  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is the alternative cryptocurrency market flooded? on: December 04, 2016, 01:45:24 AM
there is technology that can make Satoshi's Proof-of-Work look silly in hindsight

You seem smart enough to understand extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, yet fail to provide it precisely where required.

That reeks of dishonesty.  The "hey guys I've got a BIG SECRET" behavior is typical Shelby The Attention Princess.

There are others who are smart but often post disingenuously (politically), e.g. iCEBREAKER.

There you go again.  Grand, sweeping claim, presented with zero evidence.  I must presume you intend to insult our intelligence by expecting readers to swallow your assertion without critical evaluation.

How am I to defend myself against your nebulous defamation unless you provide examples demonstrating your accusation has some specific basis in reality?

As for PoS, Charles Hoskinson claims to have cracked that nut with some formal proof of soundness.  I'll leave verification of his claim to the appropriate domain experts, because unlike you, I know where my limits are and attempt to push back against Dunning-Kruger effects.

Decred is also making a go of it, but IMO their convoluted approach only confirms no elegant PoS schema currently exists.

If you want to know what the invisible hand thinks of PoS, look at Decred's and Peercoin's market caps.
1134  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XVC] Vcash (former [VNL] Vanillacoin) cryptocurrency unmoderated discussion on: December 03, 2016, 11:12:21 PM
the "mods" still delete in the original Thread...

Aren't they cute, acting like they have dev talent sufficient to replace John Conman?

Isn't it adorable how they can't figure out how to have their "community takeover" cake and eat it too, because the Vcash name is toxic and its codebase is compromised?

After defending John's code theft, etc. now they all suddenly conveniently realize he was a actually a liability all along...

 I can't wait for BadTrash.sx to launch his Definitely Not Vcash ICO.   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy




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And Icebreaker, yes I admit I lost a few btc on XVC, but I still hold a little just in case.
I will not change my opinion on the coin and code being good, fast, scaleable, and would make a great
currency for immediate transactions, which is what bitcoin sorely needs.
I will admit, and always have, that John Connors personality (or if a group their personalities) was the only
problem and thing hindering the coin. John went out of his way to make enemies instead of friends, was a
poor communicator, etc. While I think most community take overs or new devs usually don't work out,
if Vcash gets a new good dev that can understand and use the code and further develop it, as well as being
a nice guy and smart enough to get people for marketing and PR, then Vcash could have a good future, but
that is a lot of ifs. Getting rid of Johns toxic behavior may be the best thing for Vcash in the long run.

IOW, you've learned nothing from the Vtrash debacle.

Le Sigh.

Funny how you didn't make your problem with John Conner explicit until it was safe, moot water under the bridge to do so.

The delusional Vtrash community takeover people right now:

1135  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: XVC Vcash [UNOFFICIAL] ▱ Zerotime ▱ Zeroledger ▱ Anon ▱ Innovative on: December 02, 2016, 08:15:16 AM
cant say I got punked, because I sold a while ago, but yes I do owe you an apology.... i thought you were being an ass, and that John was legit.  Later I sold because I didnt see the long term benefits in what vcash was trying to do.....  BTW im also bitcoincarpenter, and yes we both apologise for supporting John-Connor, the last few weeks of deleted messages just make me angry.

wasnt the first time Ive followed a project that leant up being REKT, luckily I moved on before the witching hour this time.

^^^ Good man here.  Takes guts to admit being wrong, especially in public.

I was being (as is my wont) an ass, but it was for the right reasons and that's just my idiom.   Embarrassed

Glad to know you didn't get financially (if not socially) punked.

Any interest in joining fluffy, smooth, and myself on Monero Mountain?  We Wild & Free® Mustangs could use another individual with integrity.  And we have wine/beer/cookies!
1136  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released on: December 02, 2016, 07:08:40 AM
Your suggestion of forking monero and making transactions compatible with existing boolberry clients is interesting, the code for the wild keccak algorithm and transaction formation is largely compartmentalized, ill look into it before dismissing it and see what is involved

What would happen if you just assumed I wasnt part of the original rune group, rainbows and butterflies and an awesome bbr daemon?

Until I know who the original Rune group was and you are (thus being able to ascertain with certainty overlap or lack thereof), I'll use Occam's Razor and avoid multiplying entities needlessly.

Yeah, again I have nothing but apathy for this baseless, immature and ultimately inconsequential assertion, and is one of the dumbest theories I've been confronted with on this project.

Dont take that one personally, these are the words that most accurately describe how I feel when reading it. Feel free to consider it a defensive diversion tactic to rationalize a conclusion you already made. The reason it is inconsequential is because it will become clear when my organization engages in other public blockchain projects.

The goal is to improve distressed networks or make general improvements in the blockchain space, and weed out the dramatic baggage that blockchain development has had in favor of a more standardized and professional development process. This argument is exhibit A of one of the frustrations that motivated me to pursue my company's goals.

The text I've put in bold is not an "assertion" but rather a disclosive, conditional statement of my personal position.

I'm not conclusively asserting you were part of the original Rune group of yore; I'm merely stating that I will assume so until proven otherwise.

So excuse the fuck out of parsimonious silly old me for being unwilling to multiply entities needlessly.   Cheesy

Your strenuous objections to Occam's Razor are duly noted.  As is the hypocritical performative contradiction of claiming "nothing but apathy" while writing several argumentative paragraphs of self-congratulatory proclamations regarding your sweepingly munificent intentions.

Don't take it personally.  Or do.  I sincerely don't GAF.  This is B I T C O I N T A L K - the fiery crucible wherein we purify those unworthy of serving Supreme Master Satoshi.

Speaking of disclosure, what other handles have you used on this BBS?

Since Monero has waaay more post-Bytecoin work done on it, and the PoW is designed to be modular, it seems easier to (re)start from there and swap out CryptoNote for Wild Keccak than to keep the rest of CZ's legacy code and doom yourself to an eternity of shoehorning into it the latest XMR pulls.

It would be a clean break, although you'd lose the bit of pruning CZ added.

You could also modify Wild Keccak to use be as ASIC friendly as possible (IE reduce the memory req and stop its growth), to prevent or at least forestall monopolization by well funded entities.  You may call it Feral Keccak.   Grin

To me the beauty of WK is that it forces miners to maintain or at least be close to full nodes (Satoshi's original design), not the pointless/counterproductive ASIC arms race acceleration.

Interesting ideas here, some conflicting. You dont like the asic arms race but want to modify wild keccak to be asic friendly?

The conflict is all in your mind, an artifact of your lack of understanding.

I can't fault you for that, as I too was previously chasing the unicorn of "ASIC resistant" PoW.

But that is an entirely wrongheaded paradigm, because any PoW may be performed by a sufficiently complex (and correspondingly expensive) ASIC.

Straining to avoid this inevitability is counterproductive, as the more complexity we load onto the PoW function, the higher the barriers to ASIC production become, leading to only the most relatively well-funded entities being given an edge over their competition.

Simple PoWs like sha256 (at least initially) keep barriers to entry as low as possible, increasing the number of potential competing firms and helping the ASIC market (and hashrate division) tend optimally towards market perfection.

This concept is fascinatingly parallel to the idea of CONOP (cost of node option), the metric by which we measure Bitcoin's decentralization.  Let's dub it COAO - Cost Of Asic Option.   Cool

Wild Keccak's conflation of mining functionality and blockchain (IE well-connected full node) maintenance is sublime genius, but its increasingly higher memory requirements are a fool's errand.  EG, in AD 2036, we don't want only nation-states to be capable of producing competitive BBR ASICs.

For a successful e-cash coin, the ASIC arms race is inevitable, so we must accept and lean in to embrace it while seeking to keep the competition within as healthy as possible.

That goal is accomplished with ASIC-friendly PoWs and forestalled by (pseudo-)resistant ones.  Bitcoin is the best example of this notion.

Hence my proposal for Feral Keccak.
1137  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Coinbase Bitcoin Users Who Evade Taxes Are Sought by the I.R.S. on: December 01, 2016, 04:26:22 PM
I'm sure that makes Coinbase and all of it's users feel much better.

Thank you for sharing.

1138  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Coinbase Bitcoin Users Who Evade Taxes Are Sought by the I.R.S. on: December 01, 2016, 03:52:30 PM
This agency has a well documented history of essentially doing anything they want without recourse.  

So did King George.  Until the Yankees became sufficiently infuriated by his ruinous taxation, writs of assistance, and general warrants.

So did Hillary.  Until the FBI let it be known she would have been frogmarched if her husband wasn't a former President, and Trump ended her career.
1139  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released on: December 01, 2016, 03:41:22 PM
Your suggestion of forking monero and making transactions compatible with existing boolberry clients is interesting, the code for the wild keccak algorithm and transaction formation is largely compartmentalized, ill look into it before dismissing it and see what is involved

What would happen if you just assumed I wasnt part of the original rune group, rainbows and butterflies and an awesome bbr daemon?

Until I know who the original Rune group was and you are (thus being able to ascertain with certainty overlap or lack thereof), I'll use Occam's Razor and avoid multiplying entities needlessly.

Regardless...

Since Monero has waaay more post-Bytecoin work done on it, and the PoW is designed to be modular, it seems easier to (re)start from there and swap out CryptoNote for Wild Keccak than to keep the rest of CZ's legacy code and doom yourself to an eternity of shoehorning into it the latest XMR pulls.

It would be a clean break, although you'd lose the bit of pruning CZ added.

You could also modify Wild Keccak to use be as ASIC friendly as possible (IE reduce the memory req and stop its growth), to prevent or at least forestall monopolization by well funded entities.  You may call it Feral Keccak.   Grin

To me the beauty of WK is that it forces miners to maintain or at least be close to full nodes (Satoshi's original design), not the pointless/counterproductive ASIC arms race acceleration.
1140  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: December 01, 2016, 03:08:35 PM

No idea what you're on about mate.

Hey, what's new Wink

Are you still saying Dash would be lucky to get back to $10?

Or am I speaking to the toknormal who believes one Dash should be worth 3-4 BTC?

Please clarify.    Undecided
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