At least I had some soup!
When you have on this forum 10 people that tell you that you don't have a clue what you're talking about it's time to retreat in the background!
Some of you don't realize how this kind of made-up praising for BTC can backfire, seriously, now when everyone has been complaining for months about the mempool, and how costly it is to make daily transactions how you can just wait or use another coin you're telling people to use BTC over cards? Yeah, they sure do, 400k out of which 300k are drawing monkeys in the blockchain versus 1 billion daily!

Just think twice:
- your friend gets his card stolen and is unblocked ready to spent, he can still call a bank to block it
- your friend loses his smartphone with his wallet without a pin, how safe are his bitcoins?
When you make up stories at least think twice before letting them out in the open!


You really fell hard for this one     . I think you got my soup bowl.
So, if:
- banks are scams
- cards are stupid and faulty

Why za fk are you a Bitcoin lover in possession and using "several cards" from the evil scamming banks that suck our blood?


No, I was talking about the attacker side, OP claimed that the attacker can come to you and in a matter of seconds empty your card by just bumping into you.
The PoS has a delay, after each confirmation it does another PoS to Visa(for example)  transmission on ending the session, then when you feed it with another recipe for another sum it will not get the key to initiate the transaction without a delay, no matter how fast you try to do it you will not get it ready in one second, it's the terminal itself that limits this.


I don't understand why every single time they need to be praising Bitcoin they go for the wrong stuff.
But I assume it's because deep in their hearts they know they're making the same mistakes with Bitcoin as they do with Fiat!

Trusting Binance or Kraken with their coins and KYC, not creating a back-up, using their wallets on the same smartphone they have downloaded one hundred shady apps, and the list can go on and on and on, the real advantages are still here but they want they cling to have been gone for years, it's no longer 2009 anymore.

That's not how transactions happen.
Each generation has a unique key, tapping on it multiple times won't make a double or triple purchase. The "scammer" would have to issue a new payment every time to charge you and that is not done in a second, there is a built-in delay in every of those PoS.

Second, you won't get a contactless card to trigger a confirmation by following a guy, it barely works 2 cm directly from the sensor, and I've used this thing a thousand times to realize it makes no sense even bumping into somebody with it, one layer of clothes and a wallet are enough.
Besides, this whole thing just highlights how banks are better than Bitcoin here, you have chargebacks, and you can get your money instantly back, with Bitcoin good luck, who are you going to call?


As I said above, this is bs! You've never seen or used a contactless card right?
And what is the scammer going to do, wait 30 days hoping you're not going to ask your bank about this, and then go to his own bank and withdraw the money they have scammed from you. Really? What's next drug dealers coming to the police to demand damages for getting paid with fake notes for fentanyl?


Ok, so this is a bank-hating topic, not a topic about facts, got it!
Let's lie to ourselves cause that will make us feel better!

Neah, it's completely different and this is what happens to every company that tries to balance itself around the Russian issue.

They can't really cut it as they have tons of money locked there, and they can't sell as there is no buyer so there goes the 1$ sell to the right person, someone who we have never hard about, usually a random guy who is just the front for the Russian FSB who will run this for a while before it drives it into the ground like every single business takeover they have done so far.

So Binance takes a hit from losing all the fees and the customers but makes two sides both happy one applying the sanctions as it cuts users' access furthermore, the other side since it can now exercise total control and has just been gifted a complete database with all the sanctions Russians citizens have done over at Binance. The ones that are really getting the short straw are those who thought their government would never be able to find out how much money they've moved, now, things will get interesting let's say!

A 1.4 billion company listed on the stock exchange, running at least 18 Exashashes, that's somewhere around ~200k miners with a power draw compared to two nuclear reactors is "showing" to a newbie how the blockchain works! Are you serious?


Are they capable of making invalid blocks on such a large scale?
Assuming Mara would mine only invalid blocks it would simply take them off the equation so it would be like a 4.25 % of the hashrate is not mining at all, a drop of 6 blocks per day till the next adjustment but zero income for two weeks for Mara which would trigger the firing of their CEO and even delisting in case of an inquiry that results they did it deliberately.

Has something happened these days that led to this drop in BRC-20 tx?
https://dune.com/queries/2432736/3996424
I checked to see if it's an error but no, the mempool keeps going down so definitely there is a pause in those, in terms of raw volume yesterday was the 6th lowest from April!!

Doesn't look like the fad ending so abruptly so maybe a large service related to those experiencing issues?
Is this the result virtual monkey zoo going offline or whatever the congregation point of those decentralized assets is?

Rule #1!


This is the exact low-value topic we need to keep off this forum, everyone coming here as a "newbie" and telling how important it is to follow rules!
Lock the topic!

Yeah, bring back the miner toaster:
https://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/news/is-someone-using-your-toaster-to-mine-bitcoin-it-may-be-possible-in-todays-internet-of-things/

This won't be posisble
- it will raise the price of cheap electronics by too much, you need the chip, the board, and integrate it in the design, not worth
- large companies won't do it because they know consumers won't buy this new thing, and a few influencers doing so for fun is nothing compared to the millions that don't want it
- it adds a lot of possible problems, they need a new branch of customer support/tech/repair/design to deal with those and their gain in this?

No, the combining has failed, not for toasters or tvs or fridges, but even when we talk about heating, I've seen tens of strat-ups that wanted to sell you a bitcoin heater or water heater go bust because it doesn't make sense economically.

But, I have to add this as it's just so funny!
A 8TB SSD is too expensive so god forbid we would increase the block size to 4x times as it would put us in the hands of google and amazon, but of course, having 4 million people hosting a 3000w and $3k machine or 40 million at least a 500W (less efficiency, not all running 24/7) one to achieve decentralization is totally doable!!!!! 


As long as any other device is using Bitmain chips you will never! and I say never!!!! be able to compete with them even if you try building your 100+ chp hashboard.  Once there is somebody else making those chips and selling them at basically manufacturing cost price, you could have a chance, till then, never!

I can get a BM1398BB for 20$ via trusty sources and for $10 via less trusty ones and basically no guarantee for DOA, how could I compete with my home-built miner when the 342 chips packed in miner with 1 one-year warranty sell for under 3k?

Yeah, my bad, I shouldn't have asked what they're protecting against but more like why do you even need that protection?
It still looks like a "anti tiger rock" to me!

Let's assume you have sensitive data, important data, and your laptop is used to gain access to more sensitive data, why in the name of god would you leave that around with people able to walk by and temper with it? Are you in a cafe, on a trip, just put the damn thing in its case while you walk away, the chances of somebody actually running with it are far higher than some secret agent following you 24/7 and waiting for that moment. Are you concerned about this happening at work while you leave your device alone for a coffee break, for going to another department etc, then your company has a ton more problems than this!!!

But we started this from guys that don't walk with nuclear codes and more with the concern of our Bitcoin funds.
Now,  why would you have your wallets on a laptop you're in a habit of leaving around?
Somebody who would try to follow you around to do that will likely just rob you when you're alone rather than follow you 24/7 and leave his face on 1000 security cameras all over town.

For some guys it might be a solution, but for your average Joe who carries a few mbits in his wallets and wants protection is just overkill.
Besides, it might actually trigger more unwanted attention!

We're not talking here about buying $99 instead of $100 or the next day because your internet was off.
Let's start again from my first post in this to which you replied:


The user to whom I replied mentioned clearly that you can "fine tune " it by buying based on market trends.
No way, there is little no way in hell you can say this is still DCA when you buy guessing on what might be next!

Changing your dates from one week to a month or a day, and changing the sum from 100 to 200 for the next month, it can still be called DCA.
But buying for $100 for two weeks then two days later throwing $1000 on a whim and then not buying for 6 months cause you think it will go down is everything BUT DCA!
How can you even have an average here?

Here we go, my test of [banned mixer]

Since this was a test as much as you can and not a tutorial I've tried to do a few stupid things, that's why I tried the second time to test an already highlighted issue. Two tests plus another one that will end in under 24h, 2 browsers Chrome, and Firefox over clearnet with basic and intermediate and TOR

First impression from browsing the website

Website speed
To be honest I'm actually impressed since playing around over a ton of VPNs it loaded flawlessly, USA, South Africa, Australia, and Korea and I had no loading issues whatsoever, impressive since on the ann topic I've read about a continuous DDOS. Same with TOR, no hiccups!

Going through the FAQ:
- the Javascript thing, it's been said a lot of times it's vulnerable, the claims about the website not being able to run without, mixed feelings about it

The TOS page:

You must be joking!   


How do you terminate my access? 

Language settings:

Browsing through the website, and changing the language makes you go to the first page. Not the thing you want to experience the first time when you're using the website and have already mixed some coins cause from
https://[banned mixer]/order#xxxxx
you're sent to
https://[banned mixer]/fr/
Tried to break something else with this over browsers but I never managed.

The test themselves

Going to the mixing itself - Basic

• - good that you made it idiot-proof so that I can't start the mixing after pasting the same address in the fields!
• - nice touch on the sliders, although I think it's a bit of over exaggeration on the tiny amounts, but a plus+1 for not allowing me no matter how much I've tried to do a 50/50
• - not sure how the estimator works on the obfuscation but I don't think it should give a good score to a tx such as this
  
  
• -order of guarantee downloaded fast, has all the info, personal opinion the to the minute thing is cheesy overkill but it works.

* I understand people want coins as fast as possible but exactly 0 and 72 hours should in my opinion not be selectable, same for splitting, if we're mixing things don't allow the option to have the funds getting returned at the same time, kind of defeats the purpose.
* the fees estimator is a plus for actually telling what happens if somebody decides to use 5 addresses and still send 0.001 which would cover just the extra address cost, but again, this is a personal opinion but I would simply not allow someone to mix this: 0.00156447 BTC to have that split over 5 address and receive 0.00053602 it makes no economical sense.
I know the value of $1 is different across the world and privacy has no price but this is just wasteful, you're not making too much out of it since you do overpay a lot and if the fees go back to 50sat and you still pay 3x, we know the end result here, right?

Now fast forward, sending the coins, and waiting for the timers all was fine, again impressed that indeed the tx were broadcasted on the minute as I was watching those to see if it's really automatic and not again a single operator giving the go-ahead.

Issues with the mixing

• Checking the first tx I was so glad they overpaid 3x times, I looked at the topic, so what the first two members had to say and...I knew it. It had to be, I knew it was coming! The other tx had the exact fee, weight, virtual size!
  And the same happened for the next mxiing and half of the current mixing.
  
  
• Another problem is that it overpaid by a lot, I'm somewhat of a mempool overserver myself and I know how estimators can get it wrong and why, so my first test was on Tuesday block 809433 took 30 minutes and raised the fees, 809423 somebody dumped a shitload of tx and the minimum went from 7 to 25 sat/b, I understand that estimators can get it wrong and you have to be fast and not get any tx stuck but those just stick out.

I don't know what others that are mixing through the day are getting seeing 39.7 39.2 and 39.5 in each mixing I assume every tx sent at a certain time gets the same fee. You need a randomizer here, if I'm totally unlucky I can end with 10 addresses funded with the exact fee which is unique by itself in 24 hours among thousands of others.  Your average Joe won't be able to tell the tx apart, but this will be broken in seconds by large tracking companies that have the resources to track tons of data.

• The mixing itself for the basic is really basic, my coins were just moved two steps, and it uses the same pattern, combined this with the same fee pattern it makes tracking as I said previously extremely easy. Again,  I understand economics, I know that fees would much a lot in the process and that tumbling 10 times some coins for each address deposit would make you lose money on an under 0.05 order but the results are a bit bad.

One thing I do appreciate is linking for a review to bitcointalk after the order is completed, nice touch here.

The second mixing - Standard
Pointing out the differences

• I was going to use a very low fee and just see what happens when the order is not completed in time but then I saw the other issues and just decided to bump the fee, as expected, it considered it a second deposit. This shows that you need to take a better at look at the fees and mempool mechanics, there are situations when even paying the next block fee might not be enough, some exchanges dumping a shitload of tx might make you miss the time and thus you RBF, this should not be an issue it will only overwhelm your support with things that can be avoided.
• The mixing results themselves, intermediate is let's say just one step further than basic, the source funds seem to be a bit deeper but it's a matter of steps as I can see the link to my previous coins there. My feeling right now is that you either have a limited pool or you don't want to release too much of your "clean coins"  in it and use a too high percentage of the current deposits. From my limited experience till now, I wouldn't pay for intermediate for anything other than trying to do some casino depositing or something.

The pros
- relatively simple to use, if you're trying to mix coins and you already have enough experience you're not going to get stuck there
- normal fees, let's say it's the median across services
- the calculator is pretty convenient
- the timer and the address funds splitting work as described, features that are a must-have
- the funds arrive on time,

The not completely con, the little ones that can overlooked
- a bit inconvenient to recreate the order page, but a good thing to put it in the letter
- the language changing reset
- the ToS but I think that's just basic material you put it there to have something, not that you're enforcing otherwise it will be top worst thing

The real cons
- the exact fees for each tx, need some finetuning
- basic and intermediate are just moving coins around I would say they are both indeed basic
- issues with replaced transactions, needs to be fixed

Things I'm not sure of how they work and might be a negative too:

I'm a bit concerned about those tumblers codes, how does it track the amount mixed?
I understand if it's a fee reduction coupon as it would just need that code on the current transaction and so, but how is your system able to know how much was mixed based on that, it simply means you're tracking and storing the amounts made with a coupon. Second, what prevents me from telling all my friends and inner circle the code and abusing the system?

Hihi, I'm not going to say who's the favorite because he knows how much I ..fudge stuff 

But here is the data for the last 5 days in 24h intervals at this moment:
1)  149
2)  139
3)  163
4)  136
5)  142

The pace is just a bit positive and with the tiny backlog we have right now


Probably it's going to be one small correction upwards!
Texas is (according to the news) done with the heatwave, guess not much more can come from that, so just the usual deployment from now.

Seeing how Phil added even 10% as a pick, would that be even possible, and not for one adjustment but for two combined right now?
We're looking at almost round 6 cents per th at this BTCprice, such a jump would get us below 5.5, the first gen of pros are already losing money at 8 cents kwh, losing more 9% in income  would drown even the 110 and 122 versions.

No they don't!

This forum is full of people claiming it's stupid to buy a pizza with Bitcoin, it's stupid to buy a car with Bitcoin i's stupid to buy anything with Bitcoin, all you have to do with Bitcoin is to store them as Scrooge McDuck, and wait for the halving!
Sorry, but that's reality!

As for your tactic, as _act_ said you're just losing money!
Why offer a 5% discount when paying with BTC when you can get the full sum normally and then exchange that to BTC?
Not to mention the fees you're going to have to deal with when taking that money because, unlike cash, you need to pay when you spend it.


When was the last time you transferred $1 million?

Paying with BTC every time is expensive, if you look at poor countries where 200$ is a lot of money incurring a 50cents -1$ every time you pay for something might lead to paying 10% of your wage in fees. It's clearly a NO!

Second, there is another total misconception that the seller doesn't incur any fee.
Assuming you get paid by 10 people for stuff worth $5, when you need to actually use that money you're looking at 10 outputs you have to move, a bad day in fees and you're again losing 10%, do you think is worth it? Of course, when I send $1000 I don't even care if it's 10 or 40 sat/vb but if I'm receiving 5$ payments and the fees are on average at 30sat/vb I might simply top-selling that stuff.

No it didn't!

It has just ruled that:
Virtual assets represent property and are thus protected by law!

What this means is that if you have 200 BTC and they got stolen that's a criminal act and the victim should seek compensation, if I lend you 1 BTC and you don't pay back it's like I lend you a car and you run with it or you take $20 000 and again don't pay back!
The court decided that virtual currencies have value, that's it, and they can't be treated like Candy Crush saga diamonds or saved games!

It's not about BTC it's about all virtual currencies and they recognized them as property, not as a currency!

Came here right for this guy, there is no need to analyze his posts anymore thanks to this gem:

Hi Shasan, I've sent you $330 guess the Order ID is what you need so 253020369556217856.
Please confirm when you have time that you have received it!

Bitcointalk Rank: Legendary
Lifetime earned merit: 4943
Bech32 address: bc1q5wlj8t8pjp6qsmdphstfee5d3lvg9f25yw7mmj

No idea, I actually tried to at least find out what they are at all storing in the chain, as the example just shows the hash of the used block but, I assume it's nothing on the size of ordinals as it would make little sense since you have to store all of them in a limited time frame as the polls close, so under 1 hour for all polling sections.

Here is how it looks:
https://verify.simpleproof.com/TSE/P-000024/5eb5f203667489b8c6e045fc3ee2205b5e500557821cd770f5c696e2594bc434
a lot of my VPNs got blocked on it, just letting you know.


Everyone trying to get a small amount from Binance when they were charging 0.001 BTC for a withdrawal at a time that was close to $30. 

What's the point of these devices?
As far as their description, they would prevent connecting Pen Drives, Tablets and other USB to your computers....

Am I just stupid to not understand this but how is a stranger going to force his way to your computer, and how is a piece of plastic going to stop him?
- laptop in a cafe, that guy is going to run away with the damn laptop not do a 007 while you're farting your frappucino in the bathroom
- computer at home, so after breaking your door, stealing your watches and jewelry he will sit down, open your computer, perform a malware scan so his own malware is effective and then leave quietly and not touching your wallet at all.

Phil mentioned a set of pliers, but forget those one $10 wrench in the hand of a 120kg guy and you're going to undo every encryption yourself in seconds and that usb port is going to be the last hole you're worried about.

So, we grab one pic from here:
https://www.vendekin.com/post/where-place-vending-machine-best-locations-vending-machines

we slap a bitcoin logo and a generic background from here:
https://ccentral.ca/easy-involved-planning-convenience-store-renovation

And...we have a project!  
Anyhow, the line that actually made me reply here:


For god's sake if you don't have money to start the business and you're waiting for 1-10$ donations spending more than 10$ on the domain would have to be your last priority, the name matters so little when you basically have no product at all. Spending money on an already listed aged domain is just 10 times worse.

Let's assume your intention is genuine you should start the other way around
- have the software needed and test it
- go and check the costs for installing one of those and how much you would need to pay out of your pocket assuming no sale (this includes the cost of the merchandise)
- check the cost for your company (depends on the country) but you will need one
- check how much a vending machine costs and how much it will be to modify it for Bitcoin LN payments

With those things and especially the data, draw the line and say I need x for investments, then you might find someone willing to help!
But I guess that was too much work!


Interestingly enough he did mention in that wall of text he plans to accept  BTC LN payments only, so he might not really be just your usual newbie.

You know it's not that hard, the problem is the quality of the post that comes out this way.
OP would have not cared about plagiarizing if it wasn't for merits, that's why he did it, some think that copy-pasting text or using text spinners on an essay that was written by a more experienced author would look like he has poured tons of effort into it so ...merit!!!!

Not going to point fingers but I've seen enough users around here getting extremely lazy once pass a certain rank, from opening topic after topic to 4 generic lines in mega threads, or the funnier ones that start a business accepting BTC, make a topic about that and then miraculously they don't post an update for months in it like it would have never existed !
It's all about merit > ranking >signature!