https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/50t0jf/roger_ver_the_discontinuation_of_shared_send_at/Roger Ver: "The discontinuation of Shared Send at Blockchain.info was due to threats of violence made by strangers in government." So much for centralized, single point of failure Bitcoin mixers. The crackdown has begun. Not looking good for Dash Masternode operators either. The Apple banhammer is just the start of their problems with LEA. "Mix at the protocol level or not at all" seems to be the most probable outcome of this trend.
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in my opinion dash is way better though i invest only into it and nothing else
Spoken like a true blue, Kool-Aid swilling, cargo cult brainwashing victim. No matter how much I like Monero, I'd never go 100% (IE "full retard") on any asset class, much less single asset. No matter what, there's room in a portfolio for diversification into Bitcoin, gold, silver, platinum, and mining stocks. |
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Passing the Howey Test is really an underrated "asset" in cryptocoins.
Dash just got banned from Apple Pay for failing it.
That means Dash is "very clearly running an unregistered illegal investment security."
I wonder whether THAT is the reason. Because then they should have banned the DAO too... The real test of Apple would be if they accepted monero and ZCASH. Then we would know that it is not the anonymity but the financial structure, as you say, that was the reason for banning DASH. BTW, ZCASH will, even more than DASH, fall in the illegal securities trap. Unless they rendered it legal. Apple AppStore coins to be legal in the jurisdiction where they were created. The DAO was legal in Switzerland, but Dash is illegal in the USA because it fails the Howey Test. The DAO was created by actual, registered companies (Slock.it GMBH, Bity SA, Ethereum Foundation) which paid the Swiss lawyers/regulators needed to establish a veneer of legitimacy. OTOH, DashHoles are still trying to decide whether or not to pay a lawyer to figure out whether or not Dash (and its HYIP Masternodes) are legal. Proposal: Legal (September)https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-legal-sept.10457/1) Legal opinion on the treatment of masternode block rewards under the Internal Revenue Code a. Whether they are treated similarly to mining rewards, interest, or other tax treatment b. Tax treatment of the initial collateral “investment” 2) Liability of masternode owners for the transactions they facilitate a. Whether masternode owners may be responsible for criminal activities connected with transactions they facilitate b. If so, under what circumstances c. Whether participation in “mixing” services might give rise to criminal liability d. If so, under what circumstances 3) Liability of exchanges that support Dash transactions and guidelines on meeting existing compliance a. Whether an exchange might be held liable for criminal activity associated with PrivateSend transactions Given Apple's lawyers have decided Dash is illegitimate digital trash, it's no wonder this proposal is highly controversial among the Dash cargo cult.  |
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Your request is impossible. No one can control icebreaker. Mods and admin of this forum can do something but you coming here only gives light to your childishness and hypocrisy. Obviously you are butthurt. Funny how MM and the other DashHoles loved to reiterate how much they enjoy using the Ignore button on me, until XMR's market cap shot past their own. Then they suddenly start coming here to whine and pout. Perhaps the Ignore feature stopped working for single-purpose shitcoin pumper accounts with 99% of their posts in the Dash thread?  |
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Anonymity is really an underrated "asset" in cryptocoins. This is funny because most of the people posting and reading in this forum do not think it is that important. Then what are you doing in a crypto based community? Are we not here to find new alternatives to money that can be truly be ours, that is not controlled by any government and banks, anonymous and free of censorship? If the price really matters to you more then it would be better to post more in the speculation thread.
Passing the Howey Test is really an underrated "asset" in cryptocoins. Dash just got banned from Apple Pay for failing it. That means Dash is "very clearly running an unregistered illegal investment security." the SEC will be coming after [EVAN DUFFIELD AKA/DBA THE DARKCOIN FOUNDATION INC.] eventually for very clearly running an unregistered illegal investment security (and you come from the finance world so you know very well that you are skirting the securities law). Hope you've paid off the regulators with the $million you mined from the gullible speculators in crypto. Personally I don't see how it has been worth it. The $million you've perhaps pocketed will never sustain you to be rich for the rest of your life, and you will constantly have hanging over your head the threat of SEC action at any time in the future. That is criminal liability in exchange for $million. Not worth it. You are nearing the end of the road for your run.
I have studied the SEC regulations and all these marketing to speculators is clearly a violation of the Howey test for being an unregistered illegal investment security. It doesn't matter how you've obfuscated it by pretending the masternodes are in control, the Supreme Court has consistently said that the test overlooks any attempts to obfuscate the economic reality of the situation. Then on top of that is the evidence of deception with the premine and the advertised money supply protocol being altered ex post facto, etc.
And afaik [Evan Duffield is] a USA citizen, so thus you incur the maximum culpability.
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I have absolutely no interest in Bitcoin...you've got that right. When we've created a superior project, why cater to the dinosaur any longer? I began my foray into crypto in November 2013, first with Litecoin, then Counterparty and Ethereum, and finally Dash. My account was created 2.5 years ago, so I'm not one of the "I knew Satoshi club" but I'm definitely not "fairly new."
Just for shits and giggles, reread my posts on Ethereum. I was routinely called a shill, but guess what? I was spot on. Anyone who had listened to me would have seen a FORTY FOLD return on their investment. Maybe you should listen to me about Dash?
By the way, since you have some free time, how about deanonymizing that tx I keep posting. Unless you can't?
P.S. I'm sorry that you bought Dash at the top of the market in May 2014 and then sold at the bottom three months later. I'm sorry you lost your house because of it. That's not Dash's fault--it's your own. Maybe your investment horizon should be a little longer?
Thanks for confirming you never had any interest in Bitcoin proper, yet still post 1000s of Dash-pumping Astroturf messages at BITCOINtalk. But you got me all wrong bro. In May 2014 I was buying Monero, not Dash, hand over fist. After holding for 2.5 years, that's made me enough money to retire in many countries. Making your lectures about "investment horizons" particularly amusing. |
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This is very old news. Also: @fluffyponyzaNo. of @coindesk articles, by market cap:
BTC-5725
ETH-228
XRP-383
LTC-486
DASH-75ish
MAID-32
DOGE-295
XMR-2 minor mentions
FCT-43
BTS-34
Fortunately, nobody really gives a shit what Coindesk thinks. Somebody please update that list according to our gigantic new market cap! |
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We are all in this battle together and I believe the only way we can fail is by remaining divided. The real enemy is the entrenched systems that dictate our lives. Please do your part to help create a more cooperative environment, regardless of your opinion on which technology is superior.
How dare you... Alanshore, excellent post and I wholeheartedly agree. But then the Monero trolls come out of the woodwork... I disagree with Alanshore. That doesn't make me a troll. Other than an initial foray into ETH, the only topic you post on is Dash. How odd for a Legendary poster at BITCOINtalk to never post about BITCOIN. If you care to check, you'll find most of my posts over the YEARS have been about BITCOIN. Are you in identified in the rat cage thread thread yet? It's important for readers to know you are a fairly new, single-purpose Dash pumper account, with no interest in Bitcoin itself. |
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Maybe Apple wants Dash removed because it views Dash with its goal to become a decentralized PayPal
as a direct competitor to its own Apple Pay system which they started not so long ago...
Your "Apple is afraid of Dash" meme is hilarious. Jaxx is already a "decentralized PayPal" and it doesn't lock users into any particular coin. Stack it on top of shapeshift and there's no limit. If they don't remove that Apple Pay-killer, it's pointless to remove anything else. Besides, everyone who isn't named qwizzie knows Apple Pay is dead, just like their stupid watch. |
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In her Bitcoin Uncensored interview two months ago, Amanda had no clue what a Sybil Attack was. And now she's an expert, here to tell us the shady instamined coin that pays her to promote it is ( quelle suprise) The Mostest Sybil Resistantist Coin Evar. Believing her is like believing the used car salesmen is an expert on mechanical and automotive engineering, when he tells you the white smoke pouring out of the pipe is indicative of superior compression ratios.  I believe her over you anytime Icey.... Of course you would. Nice single purpose account you got there buddy. Legendary, with 180 pages of posts 99% about Dash. Have you been honored in the Dash Rat Cage thread yet? I'll assume you have, so won't bother to check.  |
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Network hashrate is growing. It's 28.75MH/s right now and it's new ATH.
So no more cheap moneroj.
And now 30MH/s Does this give any insight into the "debate" about whether price drives HR or HR drives price (with mining technology remaining the same)? Increased prices encourage a higher hash rate, higher security from higher hash rates adds some value to the chain (but at some diminishing rate) At some threshold, higher hash rates add value at increased rates. EG, when XMR's network becomes more expensive to attack than Litecoin's, and in turn, Bitcoin's.  |
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Dash is still trying to decide whether or not to perform the due diligence that should have been done before launching the project. Cite: Proposal: Legal (September)https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-legal-sept.10457/1) Legal opinion on the treatment of masternode block rewards under the Internal Revenue Code a. Whether they are treated similarly to mining rewards, interest, or other tax treatment b. Tax treatment of the initial collateral “investment” 2) Liability of masternode owners for the transactions they facilitate a. Whether masternode owners may be responsible for criminal activities connected with transactions they facilitate b. If so, under what circumstances c. Whether participation in “mixing” services might give rise to criminal liability d. If so, under what circumstances 3) Liability of exchanges that support Dash transactions and guidelines on meeting existing compliance a. Whether an exchange might be held liable for criminal activity associated with PrivateSend transactions Jaxx should have known better, but they were bribed by Evan to add Dash. It's been clear for years the Dash Masternode HYIP is an unregistered illegal investment security, and it's not surprising Apple is swinging the banhammer. the SEC will be coming after you eventually for very clearly running an unregistered illegal investment security (and you come from the finance world so you know very well that you are skirting the securities law). Hope you've paid off the regulators with the $million you mined from the gullible speculators in crypto. Personally I don't see how it has been worth it. The $million you've perhaps pocketed will never sustain you to be rich for the rest of your life, and you will constantly have hanging over your head the threat of SEC action at any time in the future. That is criminal liability in exchange for $million. Not worth it. You are nearing the end of the road for your run.
I have studied the SEC regulations and all these marketing to speculators is clearly a violation of the Howey test for being an unregistered illegal investment security. It doesn't matter how you've obfuscated it by pretending the masternodes are in control, the Supreme Court has consistently said that the test overlooks any attempts to obfuscate the economic reality of the situation. Then on top of that is the evidence of deception with the premine and the advertised money supply protocol being altered ex post facto, etc.
And afaik you are a USA citizen, so thus you incur the maximum culpability.
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In her Bitcoin Uncensored interview two months ago, Amanda had no clue what a Sybil Attack was. And now she's an expert, here to tell us the shady instamined coin that pays her to promote it is ( quelle suprise) The Mostest Sybil Resistantist Coin Evar. Believing her is like believing the used car salesmen is an expert on mechanical and automotive engineering, when he tells you the white smoke pouring out of the pipe is indicative of superior compression ratios. |
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Crypto Investors Should Look Closer at Dash: The Atlanta Blockchain Hosts Evan & Amanda watch on youtube: https://youtu.be/0Nh3PtY9lw4Learn what makes Dash unique, why its investors are confident, and what lies in store for 2017. Organized by Atlanta Blockchain Meetup on August 24th, the packed event featured presentations from Amanda B. Johnson (host/writer of DASH: Detailed) and Evan Duffield, founder and lead developer of the currency. Is Duffield a qualified investment adviser? If not, this HYIP seminar is no better than a OneCoin event. At least OneCoin events have the Bitcoin Uncensored clowns to liven things up, but Dash only has Amanda the used car salesman. |
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I am a long time lurker and holder of both Monero and Dash. I have made a lot of money holding both but making money has never been the goal. 80% of my cash worth is spread between both currencies because I do not like the direction in which our world is moving and I want to ensure that myself and the people I care about are well taken care of when the facade that now envelopes our society is finally lifted.
I have a plea for both the Monero and Dash communities.
[blah blah blah]
[moral equivalence]
[false comparisons]
[blah blah blah]
We are all in this battle together and I believe the only way we can fail is by remaining divided. The real enemy is the entrenched systems that dictate our lives. Please do your part to help create a more cooperative environment, regardless of your opinion on which technology is superior.
How dare you conflate a fairly launched coin with an instamined, centralized trash coin like Dash? Dash qualifies as an illegal unregistered security, because a single entity (EVAN DUFFIELD AKA/DBA THE DARKCOIN FOUNDATION INC) controls its emission and everything else. That makes Dash a liability for Apple if they allow Jaxx or whatever in their AppStore. For the deep dive on the SEC issues, there's a highly informative post here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1219023.msg13293657#msg13293657and here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1218399.msg12775158#msg12775158. Dash got itself into this mess with its instamine and cult-of-Duffield Dear Leader complex. Don't expect Monero to help Dash out of its entirely self-imposed fiasco. PS Isn't it hilarious that Jaxx took Dash's bribe money to include Dash, only to have it result in being kicked off iOS? |
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We are all in this battle together and I believe the only way we can fail is by remaining divided. The real enemy is the entrenched systems that dictate our lives. Please do your part to help create a more cooperative environment, regardless of your opinion on which technology is superior.
How dare you conflate a fairly launched coin with an instamined, centralized trash coin like Dash? Dash qualifies as an illegal unregistered security, because a single entity (EVAN DUFFIELD AKA/DBA THE DARKCOIN FOUNDATION INC) controls its emission and everything else. That makes Dash a liability for Apple if they allow Jaxx or whatever in their AppStore. For the deep dive on the SEC issues, there's a highly informative post here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1219023.msg13293657#msg13293657and here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1218399.msg12775158#msg12775158. |
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Proposal: Legal (September)https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/proposal-legal-sept.10457/1) Legal opinion on the treatment of masternode block rewards under the Internal Revenue Code a. Whether they are treated similarly to mining rewards, interest, or other tax treatment b. Tax treatment of the initial collateral “investment” 2) Liability of masternode owners for the transactions they facilitate a. Whether masternode owners may be responsible for criminal activities connected with transactions they facilitate b. If so, under what circumstances c. Whether participation in “mixing” services might give rise to criminal liability d. If so, under what circumstances 3) Liability of exchanges that support Dash transactions and guidelines on meeting existing compliance a. Whether an exchange might be held liable for criminal activity associated with PrivateSend transactions It's a little late for this due diligence. THE DARKCOIN FOUNDATION INC. should have gotten answers to those very important questions before spending 2 years pumping their coin and dumping their Instamine. I suspect THE DARKCOIN FOUNDATION INC knew the answers to those questions were not good for their scheme, so they just played dumb until the issue was forced by external entities. And now, that irresponsible paradigm of speed over correctness is coming back to bite them and bagholders in the ass.  https://twitter.com/diiorioanthony/status/771017555930705920I don't feel bad for Jaxx. They should have never added an obvious scam like Dash, which is 100% not worth getting banned from Apple. |
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Great critique. Absolutely devastating to the hopium overdose pipe dream of Maid creating some kind of new, post-Bitcoin cryptography. I've been saying Maid is nothing more than 1990s era Gnutella/Freenet/Kademlia DHT, with trendy "MOAR BLOCKCHAIN" glued on for marketing/fundraising purposes. Now we have confirmation of that assertion, from a former Maid dev: I do not see any advancements from existing distributed storage
networks.
The C++ code required that every node in the quorum group
receive and successfully process messages in identical order, and a
node making a request assumed the first "quorum-size" messages received
were from the quorum. I do not know how they intend to properly keep
the group in consensus with p2p churn, and they had a non-implemented
solution for the group verification which [Christophe Aguettaz
discovered would likely have security issues][0]. The Rust code
currently mirrors the C++ code in these two areas, and potential
solutions to the problems are vague. |
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But why on Earth would anyone want an alternative to DASH? Some people are interested in Dash's PoS/PoW hybrid model, Masternodes, etc. but disagree with the instamining, centralization, etc. Learn more at http://www.dashclassic.org/The Original Vision of Darkcoin.
Fair Launch. No Instamine. No Foundation.
Darkcoin began with a grand vision of anonymous transactions, infinite scalability, and decentralized governance. Unfortunately that vision has been lost, due to the Instamine fiasco, centralized Foundation, and autocratic Dash rebranding.
Now Dash Classic is here to restore the glorious original intent of Darkcoin, updated for the modern world with all of the good things Old Dash has to offer, and without the undesirable baggage that causes many to call Old Dash a scam. |
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