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1621  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 2FA HW security keys, Yubikey&such. on: October 30, 2020, 11:33:52 PM
but step on a trezor vs step on a yubikey. yeah no contest.

There's also a metallic one (made from aluminium), this might be fine when stepped on but it's expensive compare to every other hardware wallet on the market.

oops forgot that one. i did want a couple when i saw them too.
1622  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Got robbed and I can't understand how on: October 30, 2020, 08:34:29 PM
I needed to cancel an unconfirmed transaction that was stuck in the mempool for two days because I was trying to pay to a Protonmail bitcoin address that by then no longer existed.

technically, the address still exists and would of and still will take coin sent to it. addresses never cease existing and will always show any activity associated with them.

you would of had to contact the address owner if that coin had confirmed.
1623  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 2FA HW security keys, Yubikey&such. on: October 30, 2020, 04:07:00 PM
The yubikey is small and very tight to the touch, and really has nothing to break unless it is exposed to very high temperatures. Therefore, in terms of reliability, it is great.

He is not afraid of water, he is not afraid of falls even from great heights. The same cannot be said about Trezor.

If the Trezor gets caught in heavy rain or falls into the water, then everything will be over with him. Therefore, they are both good, but each in their own area.


fresh or grey water in a trezor may not kill it if dried/cleaned properly. yubikey doesnt care of course.

but step on a trezor vs step on a yubikey. yeah no contest. but ive dropped a trezor from like 4 or 5 feet dozens of times too.
1624  Economy / Speculation / Re: My 'vast' BTC hodl on PayPal on: October 30, 2020, 12:19:41 PM
Look do I think anyone should have 25%-100% of their BTC on PayPal alone .

Hell no.

But a few bucks worth? yes.
But why? I can only see drawbacks, no benefits. From Forbes.com:
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PayPal wouldn't let users transfer their cryptocurrency into or out of PayPal

To me, this looks like the worst of both worlds: Paypal is now an exchange that only lets you deposit and withdraw fiat. You can exchange it to Bitcoin, but you can only keep in on the exchange. Combine that with the fact that Paypal is well known to freeze accounts, and I wouldn't want to use this. But I'll follow your adventures with them anyway Cheesy

robinhood is the same deal. you dont get an actual address to even see it directly on chain. so nothing on the blockchain, purely an internal database. so no way to directly enter or leave the platform.

but even if paypals (or whoever is actually holding them) coins get hacked paypal will almost certainly cover them. still be a black eye though.

as for freezing accounts, sure. any "exchange" can do that. any centralized thing can be frozen. but everyone should already be aware of that.

let them learn at thier own pace.

1st step: get some even if its through a reputable exchange (yeah i know) or robinhood/paypal.

2nd step: let them watch the honey badger with some skin in the game.

3rd step: ? up to them
1625  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: It is 2020 time for a new diff thread. on: October 28, 2020, 11:31:51 AM
I miss mining, I was such a cute newbie miner full of hope, back in the day. Miss the fun. Miss all them

yeah i always like the hum of computers, did seti and folding for years. so mining corn was a natural thing.

but now? i have one 8 slot mining board with some gpu and fpga gear that mines eth at the moment. other times, some shitcoin or another. autoconvert pools (yes im that lazy) turn it into corn. my mining may not secure the bitcoin network but selling crap for corn on a regular basis (should) help the price.

any worthwhile asic btc miner is far too loud for home use. i started mining as a hobby, kinda want to keep it that way.
1626  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 28, 2020, 11:01:16 AM
Yeah, I sold low back in the day at $3,900 BTC ...13 BTC ..of which I recovered 5 BTC...but then again so keeping score I'm still 8 BTC down, but I was 'retired' on crypto..at the time of this Real Life Issue sale and that got me to $50,700

[...]

and cluelessness has its own adventurious charm, don't ya know...always drama BTC/Crypto...always FOMO/FUD excitement. Smiley

the clueless adventure was and still is the fun part for me.

the last bunch i sold was to officially retire early. i got a bit over 10k(ish) a coin iirc. the price was what it was. there was a fiat number i had in mind, i sold till i hit it. had a plan and did it.. as long as your goal is achieved (and you hopefully still have reserve corn after), well thats the kinda plan that has has worked for me as always, your mileage may very

being retired as covid wandered in was a bonus; no worries about getting sick from work anyway.
1627  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 28, 2020, 10:37:47 AM
So i see we still have few masochists supporting coinbase

It's fine. It's like living with an abusive husband who beats you up when drunk and reports you to the IRS regularly.

well it is a step up from mtgox, sorta
1628  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Your keys, your bitcoin? on: October 28, 2020, 10:33:43 AM
It seems to me that the question raised by the author of the topic is quite timely. How can you correlate a specific person with a specific private key? If someone spies on your notes in a notebook, then naturally he will become the owner of this private key in the same way as you yourself.

I got an idea. What if the binding of a private key to a specific person will carried out on the basis of some chip that identifies this person built into his body?) Then no one will doubt that only one person can own this private key. or as an option, a person, in addition to the private key itself, must have a certain second factor - like a yubikey or something else.

that introduces a third party you need to trust (the chip maker say). bitcoin is designed to be trustless. and security keys get lost or break. who issues them and the replacements? another party to trust.

bitcoin security is based on math, mainly the astronomical odds of finding a duplicate key. its the only thing needed atm. just protect your keys. which is admittedly harder for some than others.

1629  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 2FA HW security keys, Yubikey&such. on: October 28, 2020, 10:14:52 AM
Another point  in favor of using  for authorization purpose HW security keys instead of Trezor (or Ledger)  is that the latter has more electronics components inside (display itself and  related biasing circuits it requires) thereby wallets in general are less reliable devices, so  one shouldn't trust them  his/her accounts, could fail at any time.

true but the trezor allows written seed based backup of your 2fa master code (whatever you call it). it can be recreated on another trezor, if needed. once a yubikey is toast you need a another that was already registered to that account/device/whatever, or some other secondary way to get in. then delete the old hardware key and add a new one. whereas a new trezor restored with the seed acts exactly like the old one. plug it in and go.

trezor makes a great backup to a yubikey imo. both have strengths and weaknesses as far as 2FA.

1630  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 28, 2020, 12:57:52 AM
Coinbase Pro trading paused for the last 5 minutes...

looked like it was out for an hour or so?

much professional, very uptime
1631  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US Elections 2020 - very self such moderated on: October 27, 2020, 12:40:04 PM
I find it quite amazing that 40% of 2016 turnout have already voted... 55 million people by some estimates. Democrats up by about 8-10% (by party registration numbers where available) but as TwitchySeal noted about Florida, Republicans will likely keep catching up as the election day draws closer. Makes me wonder what the total turnout is going to be.
i voted the other day around 10am on a weekday. about a dozen supporter for each candidate, each group on either side at the entrance. they didnt interact with the others or voters, just waved sighs at cars.

no line. one voter leaving and one voter in a booth, which were well spread out. registration person took my info, informed me the mail in ballet i had requested (as a backup) wouldn't count if it turned up. i assured her it would be shredded as soon as i saw my vote sealed. btw they used a water bottle thing to seal the envelopes so no masks need to be removed or any somewhat nasty sponges at the stations were needed.

i went in with an n95 and face shield with a P100 respirator as a backup, which i didnt use. i had all that cause there was no friggin way my vote wasnt gonna get counted by some "mail fraud" sleight of hand crap. i was gonna vote in person unless i was covid positive or physically in the hospital or something.

edit: 2016 there were tons of trump signs, like everywhere, along with hillary ones too of course. this year? very few of either candidate.
1632  Other / Meta / Re: Do you want a utility to save all your PMs? on: October 27, 2020, 10:22:09 AM
i wouldnt mind saving mine. but does this program run everything client side? ie nothing is sent anywhere (another server or whatever).. its just a program that slurps data right from the forum and writes the file locally?
1633  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [1080 | 1080TI] ETHlargement - The Hashrate Hardener on: October 26, 2020, 07:31:00 PM
the dag size increase slowed 1080ti down, its just the way it went, increasing the core helps, at least on mine.

the original pill may still help but the latest claymore has a straps option thats pretty good if you cant get the original pill i dont know where to get one as its long been taken down officially.

BEWARE the new fake eth pill you see in posts that pop up hourly it seem, they are malware.
1634  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 26, 2020, 07:19:42 PM
Ah. The moon has very thoughtfully laid on some water. For when we get there. Next year. Thirsty work, this being a bull.

so when are they gonna bottle it and sell it like perrier?
1635  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 25, 2020, 03:25:24 PM
It's such a "big deal" to PayPal, that they don't even bother to advertise it on their homepage somewhere. The Bitcoin logo is no where to be found.

They don't even bother to tell their 350M users that they've integrated crypto, right on their homepage.

Riddle me that one.

yeah its buried pretty far off from their homepage..

https://newsroom.paypal-corp.com/2020-10-21-PayPal-Launches-New-Service-Enabling-Users-to-Buy-Hold-and-Sell-Cryptocurrency

theres a couple more press releases from pp there too iirc
1636  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 25, 2020, 01:08:43 AM
observing a 250btc sell wall on stamp

it is now a 300 btc wall. sitting right at 13145.

Still there.

Now we have a 600BTC buy wall at $13131

Edit: And bid wall is pulled

i expect to see posts about the $14,000 USD wall being destroyed tomorrow when i read this thread during morning coffee.
1637  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 25, 2020, 12:56:20 AM
*sigh*

Don't use PayPal.  Hate them.  Boycott them.  Whatever.  You  can use Bitcoin and have nothing to do with them.

But to expect them to be anything other than what they are is foolish.  Trusted third parties are security holes etc.  I personally barely use PayPal.  I have an account because of eBay. 

But if you think we live in a world where they are just going to blow away like a dry leaf because they see that Bitcoin is the future of peer to peer finance... well I have a bridge to sell you.

And like it or not Bitcoin does not scale on the base layer and stay a distributed consensus.  So if you want to see trustless scaling then maybe you should start working on lnd.  And if you don't like lnd then maybe invent another trustless layer 2.  Grumping about PatPal is not adding anything.  And until there is something better for the masses to use they will use what is available.

sooner or later some payment settlement company would of done it. so it was palpal this time. ive heard the horror stories. but personally ive had zero problems with paypal in like a decade with them. hate me if you want but ill buy some paper corn from paypal. just like i did from robinhood. small amounts of course but gotta try it.

realistically though, how would you have preferred this to go down. as you pointed out, corn doesnt scale. layer two is still a mess. and clearinghouses seem the natural answer. a trustless clearinghouse, if such a thing can exist.
1638  Economy / Speculation / Re: My 'vast' BTC hodl on PayPal on: October 25, 2020, 12:44:20 AM
...
I am highly active with paypal.

I guess it was why I was able to do it so easily.

Would be nice to know how many were stalled like you were.

Yeah , I kinda figured that.
Not having logged into my pp account in so long they gotta make sure I'm still worthy I guess.
No worries. I was pleasantly surprised at the amount of cash I had after cashing in the accumulated reward points I had completely forgotten about.
Waiting 2 weeks for some "free" bitcoin?  fine by me.
Oh wait, not my keys not my.....ahh nm.... (ask me if I give a shit.... lol. )

robinhood was the same way. couldnt initially buy paper bitcoin because of some account restriction. this is after photo id and verified email was done. however i had only been with robinhood a few days at this point. sent support a message and the restriction was gone next day.

so now i have paper bitcoin. yay for me.
1639  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Any alive SilkRoad users here? on: October 24, 2020, 08:09:17 PM
heres a thread to start you off

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3984.720
1640  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Your keys, your bitcoin? on: October 24, 2020, 12:04:04 PM
The chances of this happening (two people having same private key) is very low. The purpose of the other party having access to the key is to steal coins. You can't trace that except it's an empty wallet.
Not even a single chance that private keys will be the same. As we created a new Bitcoin wallet, it generates also a different keys that is why there is no possibility that it will be similar to the previous wallets created.

yes there is a possibility two identical private keys can be generated. after all, its just a random number and theres no database to check. and the various systems generating the keys sure wont be checking that key with others to see whats what.

its just so vanishingly small for duplicate private keys to be generated its not worth worrying about.
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