Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days. *iCEBREAKER casts THREAD NECROMANCY - it's super effective!* Monero core devs are working hard in the chocolate factory, making us amazing crypto treats like GUI RingCT caramel truffles. And this thread is dead. Where is the love?  Do we need not offer tokens of appreciation simply because the forum funding system works so exceedingly well? OK sure, any specific project that needs doing gets funded within minutes or hours. But what about aminorex and fluffy's appreciation for fine wine and tacotime's passion for fake Canadian Mexican food? Let's not forget smooth and Risto also need funds to hire trolls, to better vex the DashHoles. We must get this thread moving again. Time to give until it hurts (or at minimum tingles like peppermint soap on sensitive areas). This is not charity, this is dividend reinvestment! I'll start by generously providing 1 XMR to the dev fund on behalf of our dear friend TheDashGuy.  On a more solemn note, I'd like to donate 64 XMR in warptangent's name. I wish I would've met you; I'd say hey man nice shot. |
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XMR market supply is tight as a drum. All the cheap XMR loans are long gone, days ago. ELI5 what your ratio means/may imply? Stocks vs flows, or  buy [ BTC ] sell [ BTC ] score [ BTC ] buy/sell [number] Buy, Sell is order(ask,bid) value over exchange sites. Score calculation is buy * (buy/sell) I see that, but don't understand why it matters or is implying the market is "healthy." So what if "Buy/Sell ratio is 1"? Should we set our hair on fire and run around screaming?  Isn't the bid/ask book a lie, because of the poker-like aspects of day trading?  My instinct says "zomg that's bullish" but please draw picture or provide a wiki/investopedia link that assists in explaining your thesis. |
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stealth923 was already a Dash scammer and cult enforcer, so this isn't really much of a change. Plz LMK when you're going to dump his Masternodes, so I can short ahead of time. |
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XMR market supply is tight as a drum. All the cheap XMR loans are long gone, days ago. ELI5 what your ratio means/may imply? Stocks vs flows, or |
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Welcome back Teka! I thought you were involved with XCurrency, doing secret things on Slack and stuff. Are you still pushing XC and Blocknet, or did the failure of that scam drive you out of the crypto game for your extended absence? Hello, Firstly thanks for quoting that, luckily I got out of this at the right time and was merely involved as a supporter. When it comes to XC and Blocknet, I believe in Dans coding ability but thats all Im willing to say as I'm not in the business of starting arguments. "If you see fraud but don't shout fraud, you are a fraud." - Nassim Taleb |
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If Monero (or any altcoin) wants a monero.bitcointalk.org subdomain, its supporters must donate 10 BTC to Thermos.
10 BTC only, really? That's peanuts for such a big contribution from BTCT. AFAIK the forum doesn't need the money, so I don't see why the administration would want to do this. 10 BTC is about $7000. That's not "peanuts" nor it setting up a simple subdomain redirect "a big contribution." The forum needs two factor authentication and better DDOS protection. 10 BTC (times N altcoins) would help with those efforts. And I provided another reason (which you ignored and claimed to not "see") in that alt subdomains would keep tangential content off the main Bitcoin site (making the alt ghetto less cluttered). You also failed to respond to the competition argument, in which I described how Bitcoin Judas might be able to revive his ghost town rump forum by offering such a subdomain redirect service. If you're going to respond to me, please read and understand everything I've written, instead of isolating the proposal while pretending no rationale was provided (and exaggerating the cost while downplaying/ignoring the benefits). |
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How is Monero's scaling terrible compared to Bitcoin? I don't get it.
If one believes that keeping the blocksize in Bitcoin at 1 MB is a good idea then Monero's scaling with its adaptive blocksize limit could be seen as terrible. Monero's scaling appeals to those who want to see an increase in the Bitcoin blocksize I think iCEBREAKER is a well known exception to that generalization about blocksize preferences although I think he has some specific reasons for it. It is scientifically valid to modify a control variable like max_blocksize in Monero, which is an iteration of the Bitcoin experiment. It is not scientifically valid to modify a control variable like max_blocksize in Bitcoin prior to the resolution of that experiment. (Unless you are a Hearnia-suffering Gavinista, in which case you believe the Bitcoin experiment has already been resolved.) Thermos is making an unfair comparison between default Bitcoin tx size and default Monero tx size. It's an apple vs orange situation. One is public, the other private. Of course the privacy isn't free. That trade-off is a subtle point, but perhaps smooth & the gang can back me up with some numbers for illustration. tx size[ZeroCash + zk-SNARK Area51 alien tech] >> tx size[Bitcoin + ad hoc off-chain kludge privacy overhead] > tx size[Monero including de facto elegant on-chain privacy protocol]Private tx size, from largest to smallest: 3. Zcash. Takes gobs of RAM to run, and tx are correspondingly enormous. 2. Bitcoin <-> CoinJoin <-> CT sidechain. BTC tx are small, but CJ/CT overhead is not. 1. Monero. On-chain mixing, while challenging to prune, provides one stop shopping. Unknown if/how RingCT overhead will interact with large block reward penalty. Perhaps Lightning, a future BIP, or nifty CoinShuffle-type on-chain mixing hack will someday give BTC on-chain fungibility|privacy. Until then, let's scale Bitcoin to 1mb while remembering that ossification is the engine of a bone's anti-fragility (it heals more strongly where broken). Undue concern about Monero's tx size is exactly like undue concern about Bitcoin's 7 tps of economic bandwidth. These critiques seem applicable so long as your model is Paypal But With Moar Blockchains. When you reevaluate using the correct Gold 2.0 settlement paradigm, it's obvious Bitcoin and Monero tx are, however scarce, potentially among most precious things that have ever existed, due to their exorbitant utility in terms of ~frictionless value transfer and wealth creation/preservation. |
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The forum is about bitcoin and anything not related to bitcoin = Altcoin which should belong to the Altcoins sections . If we create a sub-forum for Monero , we will have to create for every single altcoin out there if we want to be fair .
As Lauda said, it's no good to set a precedent for creating a section per altcoin. Then we'd need thousands of altcoin sections.
I do think that Monero is probably the best altcoin right now, since it actually does something major that Bitcoin doesn't, even if its scaling is terrible and it'll probably be replaced by a Bitcoin sidechain someday. Achieving Monero-style anonymity for everyone should be a long-term goal of Bitcoin.
Let's use market-based mechanisms to solve this putative free rider problem. If Monero (or any altcoin) wants a monero.bitcointalk.org subdomain, its supporters must donate 10 BTC to Thermos. That's win/win, because the altcoin gets it's own dedicated high visibility/SEO friendly subdomain, while the mothership forum gets funding at the same time as tangential content self-segregates in areas outside of the altcoin ghetto. If we don't do this, Altcoin Jesus may take the opportunity to profit from selling more bitcoin.com subdomains, as he's already created a casino and some other goofy shit on there. |
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I don't even care anymore, i've got half a mind to leave this shitshow of crypto behind and get back to real life, 40+ hours a week working on Dash and related shit for free has burnt me out.
The whole crypto space is full of scams, trolls, assholes & worse. I play my one fucking joke and the shit show comes to my feet.
Good fucking riddance. I'll take that as confirmation you have zero intention of returning the XMR you scammed using fraud. Oh you're "burnt" out, you poor dear? I'm sure it's all Monero's fault that Daniel, kot, and yidakee take turns shitting on you. Or perhaps the real problem is you smoke too much "for medical reasons" to finish high school, much less contribute in a meaningful way to crypto? The only thing I've ever seen the Dash and Monero communities overwhelmingly agree upon is that you are a total scumbag. But I understand why you are so mad. I set you up and played you like a marionette. Dance for us, you fucking fail puppet!  |
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Thanks for stepping up and making whole those victimized by TheDashGuy's aggressive dishonesty. But that's not an "end to this story" (although I understand why you wish it was). TheDashGuy isn't just some random Dash supporter, he's the creator/admin/webmaster of most (or all?) #DashNation sites.
That matters, and IMHO you and the rest of the DashHoles are just glossing over that salient+pertinent fact because it's inconvenient, awkward, and difficult to address without admitting your community leadership has had at least one known/proven/infamous scammer among them THE WHOLE TIME.Now that you have undeniable proof TDG is an aggressively dishonest grifter, how comfortable do you feel letting him control the browsers of all #DashNation web site visitors? Isn't it legitimate, given his recent fraud and theft, to assume TDG will use those sites to rip off visitors in any and every way possible? Things would be different if TDG had refunded the XMR himself, or reimburse you guys for your out of pocket refund expenses, but he has not. I think that matters, and this story doesn't end until some punitive repercussions are inflicted upon TDG. He can't just continue blithely running your web sites like nothing ever happened to utterly impugn his motives and establish his malfeasance. If you disagree, please explain why. Cheers, -iB |
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Another Bitcoin Obituary. That's why I buy condolence cards for Satoshi in bulk. EDIT: Hi toffoo! Welcome back old timer. Are you still helping get Brazil into crypto? How is the availability of Monero info in Portuguese? As for your laggy tx, did you specify a fee or what? Perhaps there's a spam attack right now, because some people might be mad about our price spike coming so close on the heels of their own favorite coin's humiliation on BitcoinUnlimited. |
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TheDashGuy,
With all due respect you may have successfully gained 300 XMR in your confidence game, but it is you that missed an important lesson here:
Lao Tsu said "give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime"
You just stole a few fish in the middle of a fishing lesson. Eat well now because you are setting yourself up to be hungry for life.
Imagine being given 300 Bitcoins in 2011, when they were worth almost 2 dollars each. Now imagine rage dumping them, Because [Something Offensive On Bitcointalk]. That's what TheDashGuy has done here. |
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^But he was on short time, that's just how he put it, short time. There was an electric rush running through him he hadn't felt since the stocks. The interview went great, spot on, liek a modern Leonardo describing masterpieces, splendid. Line after line, he rambed in half-lucid thoughts about his fintech surprise. I just got propositioned by a queer he said to me, as he ran past me to the streets..
The Evan's Gate graphic novel is going to be E.P.I.C. Now we just need to put in a FFS request for an illustrator. Can we get Dave McKean and Bill Sienkiewicz to team up? |
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So one of the first lessons you learn as a junky is how to wait. Not patience, it isn't that, more fidgety than stand-stillish; no one would ever mistake a junk man for a patient man...But you learn, try to find some weed to calm you down, that's what we did on Las Ramblas before Evan beat that hippie to near-death. Evan, I said. You have to confess to this thing you did.
Reading ^this in William S. Burroughs' voice.... |
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Dash turned out to be an absolute gutter of a community.
Technically sound individuals wont be impressed by soda selling machines
Imagine looking forward to a nice cold soda on a hot day then finding out you have to buy Bitcoin AND convert it to Dash first. This is the thought process of Dash pumpers: It's like buying a soda...but with Dash! Fucking enhanced baby!  |
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TheDashGuy just can't quit the #DashNation because he loves it when Daniel, kot, and yidakee take turns shitting on him.
haha I know - I knew it was a joke on XMR the whole time Is there a way to tell when TheDashGuy is actually being honest, or is he always dishonest? Or just always high as a kite? This seems to be written in a rare moment of sincerity: Dash is broken, and has an identity crisis.
http://www.thedashguy.com/2016/02/05/dash-is-broken-and-has-an-identity-crisis/Dash has an identity crisis. The community is broken, spirits are beaten down and everyone is divided and clueless about the direction in which they should be heading, in the long run.
Everyone who lacks the capacity to see so far into the future that they accept cheap monetary gains instead of unleashing Dash onto the world with their efforts instead of their wallets. Up until 2 days ago, Dash was on board with( possibly still is) Transform PR, a Public Relations firm that has previously done business with other “altcoins” and had very little to show for it.
Some people even say they are just a bunch of great salesman who prey on these smaller altcoins promising the land of riches and fame while only supplying out dated marketing techniques and a bloated approach to PR.
This is not 2002, we have this thing called Dash which is essentially a fuckin skynet of crypto and we are doing what with it? We are hiring a goddamn PR company to fix our broken spirits. And satisfy the majority of people who are yearning for short terms profits. Moar like "TheDashGuy is broken and has an identity crisis." |
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I realized what faults Bitcoin really had that didn't seem to be on anyones roadmap to getting fixed, so I started looking for Bitcoin 2.0
[greedy low-information Gavinista buttcoining intensifies] What a cunning stunt! You sure fooled me!  I'm shocked a high profile member of #DashNation would intentionally make false statements about quitting, and then make more false statements about his intention to join XMR. Begging for spare change under false/malicious pretenses was an extra-classy cherry on top! Were you being dishonest then, dishonest now, or both? Or do you even know anymore? You done smoked yourself schizo son. And stupid (you couldn't understand Core's roadmap if you tried). Remember when you wrote this? Dash is broken, and has an identity crisis.http://www.thedashguy.com/2016/02/05/dash-is-broken-and-has-an-identity-crisis/Dash has an identity crisis. The community is broken, spirits are beaten down and everyone is divided and clueless about the direction in which they should be heading, in the long run.
Everyone who lacks the capacity to see so far into the future that they accept cheap monetary gains instead of unleashing Dash onto the world with their efforts instead of their wallets. Up until 2 days ago, Dash was on board with( possibly still is) Transform PR, a Public Relations firm that has previously done business with other “altcoins” and had very little to show for it.
Some people even say they are just a bunch of great salesman who prey on these smaller altcoins promising the land of riches and fame while only supplying out dated marketing techniques and a bloated approach to PR.
This is not 2002, we have this thing called Dash which is essentially a fuckin skynet of crypto and we are doing what with it? We are hiring a goddamn PR company to fix our broken spirits. And satisfy the majority of people who are yearning for short terms profits. Dash paid Transform PR $6000 to do nothing but sneak Duffield into the Satoshi Roundtable. And that was a humiliating PR disaster, as Duffield hid behind his wife and then ran away to avoid the hardball questions of Bitcoin Uncensored. Meanwhile, fluffypony got along with them splendidly, and Monero scored a serendipitous PR coup as a result of the interview. Keep it real bro, you are a sterling example of a typical millennial DashHole. Have fun in the #DashNation, where @yidakee shits on you over and over. |
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I've started Marco Polo marathon yesterday, enjoyable TV show.
Don't bother with Season 2. *wince* DX EDIT: It gets better. 100 Eyes saves the day, as he tends to do. The new Danger Mouse seems good, although I only watched on episode. |
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Dash will fail and the project will end (52.7%) Digital democracy has spoken.  Unfortunately, the BU guys were so busy teaching Mandy about the implications of Sybil attacks for Masternodes, they couldn't get into the issues with Dash's copycat "DAO" project. Oh look, another defector has joined TheDashGuy and Camosoul. https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4r2oq9/am_done_with_dash_seriously/Welcome aboard fxoscentral! "They voted with their feet." - Vladimir Lenin |
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