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1701  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: My father thinks I'm working in a shop,he didn't know I'm bitcointalking. on: February 23, 2023, 01:31:25 PM
Technology has made life somehow easy for us today.In the days of our father,they had no idea about working online,all their work to make money were done physically,and with strength,either they engaged in mini or mega business that will provide money for them.We thank God for bitcoin,that came as a messiah,to enrich the hopeful.

based on the religion that I believe in, humans and everything created by humans was created by god (that means including bitcoin), bitcoin is a change and also proof that humans continue to live and develop, bitcoin is a miracle.

Now my father asks me about my shop,and where it's located,I told him I'm bitcointalking,and he doesn't know what I'm talking.What do yours tell you?

@OP, are you really making this forum your full-time job, I think it's too risky!

back to your question, if I were you, I would explain to my dad slowly about bitcoin, and show videos from youtube that can be easily understood by people who have never even heard of what online business is - cryptocurrency - digital currency (I've done this to my father).
1702  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: February 22, 2023, 05:29:11 PM
I also think that no team has the strength to prevent Bayern Munich from winning the championship.  It doesn't matter if Dortmund, Union Berlin or any other team, there will come a time when Bayern Munich will overcome the point gap with the second team.  I can't think of a team that can become a champion in Germany other than Bayern Munich.

everyone has the same thought as you but look at the current standings in the bundesliga, there are 3 teams that are level on points (43 points) and all three only have a difference in goals. if bayern always wins the bundeliga trophy then the bundesliga will always be boring, with very competitive competition in the standings then the current league looks very interesting and almost as interesting as the english league (EPL).

there are still 12 matches to go, which means there are a lot of points to fight for and all three (bayern - dortmund - union) almost have an equal chance.
1703  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2022/2023 on: February 22, 2023, 04:53:17 PM
I won't be surprised if Lionel Messi is signed to Saudi league because he has already achieved everything he wants and Saudi league can do anything with money to bring big star player like Messi just to gain more recognition and more fans. Won't be bad if Messi join Ronaldo in the league.

I don't know how big the world's attention will be on the Saudi Arabian League if Messi also moves to the Arab League, but the speculation that is circulating is that the reason Messi hasn't extended his contract at PSG is because he wants to play in the Arab League, now Messi is an ambassador for an eastern-center country, and its relationship with the arab league is very good. let's see what will happen!

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Tomorrow there will be a match between Al-Taawoun vs Al-Feiha, we know that the host Al-Taawoun previously lost against Al-Nassr and that will certainly make Al-Taawoun want to get 3 additional points in this match. Meanwhile, their opponent Al-Feiha is in 12th place in the standings, of course they also don't want to lose because they have a target to climb to 9th in the standings. Prediction for a score of 2-1 for Al-Taawoun's win and if I bet for both teams to score goals.

al taawoun is currently in 5th position with 30 points and only 2 points difference to al hilal. facing al feiha, al taawoun will definitely exert all their abilities because winning in this match is very important, my final score prediction is the same as yours, it seems that al taawoun will win narrowly (1-0 or 2-1).
1704  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: February 22, 2023, 04:28:56 PM
Yesterday, there was a statement made by Lionel Scaloni on the possibility of Lionel Messi playing for Argentina in the 2026 World Cup. According to Scaloni, it is up to Messi to take that decision. If he wants to play in FIFA 2026, then he will be allowed to do so. Scaloni also made a comment regarding one of the most promising Argentine players right now, Giovanni Simeone. The last time he played for Argentina was back in 2018, but had a very good season with Napoli recently (after a short stint with Hellas Verona).

reportedly messi still has the strength to set a personal record as the player with the most appearances in the world cup. scaloni said he really appreciates messi and he definitely won't want to replace messi's position when messi has a strong desire to return to playing in the 2026 world cup, messi has good physical qualities and also good leadership as captain.

other news
is that marca wrote that cristiano ronaldo still has a strong desire to play in the 2026 world cup (I'm sure he wants to set a personal record in the world cup) but it's still confusing because it's certain that the portugal coach will think hard about it, because in the world cup 2026 cristiano is so old.
1705  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: February 22, 2023, 04:07:47 PM
Emi Martinez 'will be made available for summer transfer exit, the defeat to Arsenal where he made a fatal mistake especially for Arsenal's fourth goal which made Villa look very bad at that time was the trigger but I suspect his inappropriate celebration during the World Cup victory celebrations also became one of the triggers why he will not be retained by Aston Villa https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/21461435/emi-martinez-aston-villa-summer-transfer-unai-emery/

In the game against Arsenal, Emi actually played really badly and even scored an own goal in 90+3 minutes. It's only natural that problems arose and his relationship with the villa management got heated. reportedly emi was a graduate of arsenal academy but he was not really interest by the first team. Emi also admits that he needs a new challenge and he really needs a new team that plays in the Champions League.

It's not chelsea who has been released rudiger but it's rudiger itself who didn't wanna try to extend his contract with chelsea. I don't even know about how totenham was thinking about him since totenham tried to give him an offer. Rudiger already played so well in the dream team by any players in the world along with benzema, vini and another world class player.

Moving to the totenham is a degrade for rudiger's career. Why doesn't totenham think about it before try to give rudiger an offer? what a funny club.

this is still speculation because until now rudiger is still comfortable playing at the best club in the world and i am also sure that madrid will find it difficult to let him go to Tottenham. I agree with what you say, if Rudiger accepts the offer (moves to Tottenham from Madrid) then he make a career decline.
1706  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: February 22, 2023, 06:55:25 AM
I hope Napoli don't do that because both are the main player who made this achievement. If Napoli sell them for money, I believe they can't do like this anymore on next session until they find a decent player. Maybe better for management to create a new contract and do a big deal to make them keep stay on Napoli because hard to find a successor in the middle of a player crisis because all experienced players are getting all and will need a time again to recruit the young players.

usually teams with medium financial strength will immediately be attracted by big money offers. PSG - madrid - bayern - man city - chelsea until now continue to be linked with these two players, if there is a fantastic offer I'm sure these two players will also be tempted and Napoli can't do anything to keep both of them in the team.
Becoming a Serie A champion this season and going as far as possible in the UCL is a very good thing for Napoli, even though Napoli's chances of achieving that again next season will be difficult if these two players really move to another club.

in the last match between Atlanta and Lecce it comes as a surprise to somany persons seeing the home team conceiving defeat to Lecce after winning Lazio in their previous match, the both team head to head record favours AC Milan but anything is possible in this match.
Atalanta has a problem with its defenders. This problem must be solved as soon as possible. The result against lecce is a shame for atalanta. It's caused atalanta already won 70% ball possessions but it was losing due to the counter attack by lecce.

faced lecce a few days ago, in fact, atalanta really dominated the match there were even many opportunities for atalanta created (10 shots on target), atalanta this season doesn't have anything special, they are very weak on the front and back lines, and it seems that they have to buy a few new players in next transfer market to fill the gaps in the front and back lines.
1707  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why full time to crypto why not to Skills on: February 22, 2023, 06:19:17 AM
Most people lose their money in cryptocurrency due to inexperience and greed. We take big ricks like investment without any knowledge or training about crypto currency. 

this is the most common problem in the crypto world, beginners invest in crypto only with recklessness and zero knowledge, but those who already have several years of experience in crypto, definitely have the ability to control it.

There are many members who come to invest in cryptocurrency just by seeing the success of others and positive advertising online. But they may not know that before investing they should have adequate understanding about investment and then invest. Most people invest in different coins only through spiritual knowledge. They never follow market direction before investing. I think this is completely stupid.

what do you mean by spiritual knowledge? do buy or invest in crypto based on feeling and without analysis?

being inspired by the stories of other people who have been successful in crypto is good but many beginners forget to learn what it takes to be successful in crypto. I too ever was in a period of zero knowledge about crypto but because I keep learning and was consistent, now I came to have a good understanding of crypto. "The key to success in crypto is to keep learning and being consistent"
1708  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why Do Gamblers Do This? on: February 22, 2023, 05:49:25 AM
In this forum and other forums where gambling is one of the topics of discussion, one of the recurrent topics is people who write about how their gambling addiction has ruined their lives.

To be honest, I don't feel respect for people who write bitter stories that they experienced because they lost at gambling, the reason they lost at gambling was due to a lack of emotional control and also they were quite greedy but accused as if gambling was what made them lose and they were victims of gambling atrocities.

We usually encounter topics like "Gambling ruined my life,"  "I lost all my life savings to gambling,"  "I gambled away my entire salary," etc. Then they go on to tell a sad tale. It makes me wonder: why do gamblers tend to wait until they have suffered a catastrophic loss or a string of losses before quitting or seeking help?

(the title topics above is what I see the most on the forums and social media that I follow lol) I am a gambler but I have never used all my money to gamble because I am still able to think rationally, if I run out of money then where else should I look for money for tomorrow's needs? 
every gambler needs to experience a bitter period in order to become a good teacher for other gamblers but if the same person keeps saying it, then that person is the problem, not gambling.
1709  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: February 21, 2023, 05:36:11 PM
7 goals in the confrontation between PSG and Lille in the 24th round of Ligue 1 created a dramatic score chase. In injury time, Messi scored a super free-kick, bringing an unbelievable victory with a score of 4-3 for PSG.
PSG hold the top of Ligue 1 with 57 points, 8 points more than second place Marseille, but played 1 more game.

I didn't think PSG would be so under pressure against Lille, if Messi didn't succeed in scoring a beautiful goal through the free kick that was given to him then PSG would be very ashamed of the fans.
next, PSG will face Marseille and I don't see that it is a match that PSG will go through easily. marseille is a team that often gives unexpected surprises and it looks like they will show that in the match against PSG later.

Monaco's performance has been extraordinary this half of the season, they have consistently won at home or away in their last 5 matches in Ligue 1. Furthermore, this week they will face Leverkusen in the Europa League competition and Monaco will host the leg second and after that they will face Nice in Ligue 1 and will host again. These two matches will be very favorable for Monaco as they are playing at home and the stadium will surely be very full of fans.

monaco continues to show great performance (I predict that until the end of the season, they will stop in the top 3) and in the last 5 matches they have had in ligue 1, the results have been quite good. meanwhile, in uel, the results they have got so far are quite good and facing leverkusen in leg 2 will definitely not be too difficult anymore.
1710  Economy / Economics / Re: does bitcoin help in your economy? on: February 21, 2023, 04:20:29 PM
there are many people investing in bitcoin, some are profitable and some are losing. and I believe bitcoin has a big advantage. The question is whether when you benefit from bitcoin, you can help your economy and your family?

1000% yes!! bitcoin has helped my small family's economy and managed to help us through the difficult pandemic times that have passed. remembering the difficult times when the pandemic first appeared I did not expect to be able to get through it, because at that time my partner was laid off from work and we only survived from my mask online sale and through the btc signature campaign fee that I participated in at that time.

those who say bitcoin is bad for the world blah blah blah are people who don't want to see the world economy better, and also they don't want things they can't control to rule the economy.
1711  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: February 21, 2023, 03:49:25 PM
Yes I also think Ronaldo would care less, he is also having a good time and enjoying life at Saudi Arabia with his family and new teammates. I don’t think  he has the time to think and worry about Manchester United improving after his departure but surely people will talk as usual and critics will begin to go round on the internet again. Manchester United fans are excited because they won a few games and Rashford is netting goals, they suddenly want to bring Ronaldo topic back again to the surface as the cause of their problem.

actually it's not a problem to bring up the topic that cristiano ronaldo was one of the causes of MU's decline at the start of the season because of ronaldo's high ego (he considers himself higher than MU). ten hag changed MU's game to be much better and in control and what he did prove to be effective because currently MU is in 3rd place in the EPL temporary standings and has great potential to shift the position of man city (which is in 2nd position).

Nothing has changed since they made a big Transfer? Those who handpicked Potters, and they had to accept the risks. When I traced his best achievements, I didn't find. Four matches without a win. Perhaps they should start choosing to prepare for the next season if Potter does not have a clear development. Maybe Zidane or Pocthino are good coaches, they could be good options in my opinion.

with the many extraordinary young talents that Chelsea currently has, I think Pochettino is a coach who would be suitable to train Chelsea. Potter doesn't have a good mix of strategies, there's no reason to keep him at Chelsea.
1712  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: February 21, 2023, 03:22:22 PM
Barcelona fans will certainly be happy their team is performing so well. Indeed Barcelona have been performing beyond expectations and now leading at the top of the league table ahead of Real Madrid. Barcelona look pumped up for the title race and as long as they remain consistent, it will be difficult for the other teams to overtake them.

In every match that Barcelona has played in La Liga, they have always been careful and worked hard to consistently win and this has been proven by the results Barcelona has obtained so far (19 wins - 1 defeat - 2 draws). This season's trophy will definitely belong to Barcelona and this is will be Xavi's first La Liga title as Barcelona coach.

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Robert Lewandowski is a killer, 15 goal Cheesy
but the first one of Italian Scudetto, do 18 goals

Barcelona still has 15 more matches to go through, so the chance for Lewandowski to increase his number of goals will be huge and surely Lewandowski will make himself the top scorer in La Liga (btw, I think it is unethical to compare the top scores of players between leagues).
1713  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Which is currently the best crypto to invest in? on: February 21, 2023, 07:54:01 AM
I have been a crypto enthusiast for some time now,thou I have lacked consistentency,but over the years I have seen people who have carved out good lives for themselves with crypto,either by direct or indirect investment.,

if you hear of someone who has succeeded in crypto, you should also know how hard that person struggled to remain consistent in his belief in crypto, so that the tree (trust) he planted bears the fruit of success now.

as a result I wish to invest in crypto with cash,but with minimal knowledge,so I seek the help of this house in advise on which crypto to invest in currently as someone who is just getting to learn about crypto currency.

I'm not saying that most altcoins are bad but bitcoin is the safest investment for beginners, especially for those who have a habit of going in-out of the crypto world. you can try to buy bitcoin in installments every month because believe me, bitcoin will create new ATh in the next few years and the bitcoin investment you make will definitely give you big profits.
1714  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: BI Terbitkan Rupiah dalam bentuk Digital on: February 21, 2023, 07:17:12 AM
Saya pikir untuk sasaran pertama adalah kota-kota besar yang memiliki transaksi ekonomi cukup tinggi. Untuk pelosok mungkin akan dikesampingkan dulu, tentu karena juga infrastruktur yang mungkin belum mendukung dan akan mengalami kesulitan. Karena saya yakin transaksi ini membutuhkan koneksi internet.
Kalau pemerintah mampu mengembangkan dengan mengkoneksikan jaringan blockchain pakai gelombang radio (tanpa internet), itu lebih bagus, malah CDBC ini bisa terpakai di daerah pengunungan yang akses listrik pun belum ada.

meskipun saya tidak terlalu suka dengan rencana cbdc, namun rupiah adalah simbol dan kedaulatan negara indonesia jadi saya sih mendukung pemerintah untuk mencoba mengembangkan itu, namun saran yang mas katakan ini sangat bagus (pengembangan cbdc dengan tanpa internet agar bisa mudah dalam bertransaksi di mana pun bahkan di atas pegunungan sekalipun)

Tapi ya itu tadi, ngapain capek-capek beli rokok 2000 perak di warung bayar pakai scan HP. Sedangkan masyarakat itu mau yang praktis (karena terbiasa sejak kecil bayar langsung), sehingga di kota ini pun, bayar petralite pakai aplikasi di HP pun masih segelitir orang. Padahal kalau pakai itu kita tidak antri lagi, karena di tiap SPBU sudah ada pos pengisian petralit pakai aplikasi mypertamina. Namun karen ribet pakai HP, rakyat mending ngatri pakai uang cash

peran pemerintah juga di haruskan lebih kuat dalam memasarkan produk mereka dan penyuluhan ke tiap tiap daerah pun wajib di lakukan, tidak mudah memang merubah kebiasaan penduduk yang sudah terlanjur nyaman dengan tranaski uang cash namun saya yakin jika itu terus di lakukan bahkan dengan memberikan bonus atau diskon yang menarik (contohnya ketika membeli minyak di SPBU) maka kebiasaan baru bakal muncul dan transaksi via digital (phone) semakin banyak terjadi.
1715  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: February 21, 2023, 06:55:01 AM
Marcus Thuram is one player I really admire especially after seeing his outstanding performance in the world cup, I love his strength and ability to force through defenses and create good chances. I expected Arsenal to go for him when we lost the race for Murdryk in January, I don't think Chelsea will be interested in Thuram after making all these signings in January.

Thuram is an attacker who is currently being discussed a lot because there are many big clubs who are very interested in him, including: inter - barcelona - chelsea - PSG - Bayern - milan but the one who really needs him the most is inter because they will officially sell my lukaku, so inter need a replacement for lukaku ASAP.

To be honest, I see that Inter have little chance of getting Thoram because their competitors are very rich teams who are willing to offer insane prices to get the players they want.

What is still being speculated is where lukaku will go because Chelsea and Inter don't want him anymore.
1716  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [HELP]Bantuan untuk menaikkan Rank (Newbie s.d Hero) V.2 [UPDATE] on: February 21, 2023, 06:30:13 AM
Halo Semua, Selamat Pagi ! Wink
Saya mencoba untuk memilih beberapa postingan saya untuk rekan-rekan sejawat SFI review jika memang berkenan. Tentu saja sebagai acuan saya juga untuk berada di forum agar lebih aktif lagi sehingga memang ini bisa menjadi bahan evaluasi saya nantinya jika rekan-rekan SFI bersedia mereview, mengkritik atau memberikan saran.
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Ada beberapa postingan yang memang berada di topik yang sama sebenarnya tetapi inilah yang bisa saya kontribusikan untuk SFI kali ini, semoga kedepannya tulisan saya lebih berkembang Cheesy
Terimakasih

selamat siang mas Ryu, ijinkan saya untuk memberikan sedikit komentar pada postingan yang mas ajukan ini;

1. rencana yang sangat bagus mas, membeli bitcoin berdasarkan DCA per bulannya dan mas sudah menetapkan target harga $30k baru berhenti, layak di tiru untuk yang punya target investasi jangka pendek
2. tampaknya tren AI ini tidak bisa di bendung lagi, analisa yang mas lakukan juga sangat baik
3. kalimat bijak yang di lontarkan warren buffet itu bakal menjadi salah satu favorit saya, istilah dia mengattakan belilah saat pasar bear dan juallah saat pasar bull, hehehe
4. anak muda jaman sekarang di hampir seluruh belahan dunia sepertinya sudha melirik bitcoin dan mata uang kripto lainnya sebagai invesasi mereka termasuk negara kita
5. informasi yang bagus, cocok unutk menjadi bahan bacaan member SFI
6. tidak bisa di pungkiri lagi mas, bitcoin adalah yang terbaik dan yang paling bisa bikin tidur nyaman berbeda dengan altcoin lainnya yang bikin jantung dag dug saat kripto winter.
7. pembahasan tentang potensi penggunaan AI pada trading sungguh masih simpang siur sih menurut saya, karena saat ini AI hanya berbasis statistik dan analisa jadi kemungkinan loss nya masih tinggi jika di implementasikan untuk trading, cmiiw
8. skip
9. saya sih udah menskip semua token2 yang berasal dari nft atau metaverse, saat ini masih ada beberapa yang saya hodl dan masa depannya sih belum pasti apakah bakal kembali naik atau tidak
10. untuk spekulasi masa depan tokocrypto seperti nya saya tidak begitu mengikuti perkembangan kabar nya, meskipun saya salah satu yang aktif menggunakan tokocrypto sebagai pertukaran kripto saya ke IDR.

btw mohon maaf kalo ada salah kata / penyampaian mas, jangan kasih kendor, sedikit lagi menembus sr member tu. Grin
1717  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: February 20, 2023, 04:55:54 PM
Nothing has really changed, but if PSG still make mistakes like when they played against Lille, then we can be sure we will see real competition in the Ligue 1 standings soon. In week 25, PSG will face Marseille, this is a match between ranked 1st and 2nd, there will be high tension in this match. If PSG win here later, they will make up the distance again with a difference of 8 points. But if they lose, then their distance from Marseille is only 2 points.

next week, marseille will face PSG and it is a match that will have high tension because if Marseille manages to win, the point difference between the two teams will only be 1 point difference, so PSG must win if they want to get further away from the team that is ranked 2nd (Marseille). Another interesting thing that I see is the win probability in this match is almost balanced (Marseille 35% - draw 27% - PSG 38%).

But it looks like the PSG trio will not be available in the nearest game as Neymar picked up an ankle injury against Lille yesterday and it looks like he will be out for two weeks. Of course it will be a tough homework for coach Galtier to arrange the composition of his players. On the other hand, PSG has a target to continue to widen the distance, but Marseille and Monaco are indeed in good form and PSG's position could be shifted by one of these teams.

this is certainly very worrying about PSG, so far Neymar has made a big contribution to PSG's front line, it is feared that if he really suffers a serious injury then the match against Marseille and Bayern (in the UCL) will be experienced by PSG with a little difficulty. Mbappe, in an interview, expressed his great hope that Neymar's injury would not be severe.
1718  Economy / Economics / Re: To cut financial ties with original family benefits you in the long run on: February 20, 2023, 04:01:25 PM
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From children's perspective, I think this may solve some realistic problems in the short term, but in the long run, this will damage the creativity and motivation to face life challenges and harm the ability to manage finances, especially if you are a man. I say this because a lot of the friends from my generation are struggling financially now because they have been dependent on their parents and even after getting married and establishing a new family, they took a regular amount of money from their parents to pay off mortgages or cover other expenses.

parenting in some countries is getting weaker and weaker, even many children are indirectly taught by their parents to depend on them for life. I know how parents really love their children because I personally have felt that, if I could give my child the moon then I would give them that but I realized that it was not good, every child must be independent in everything so that in old age not burden their parents.

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In my opinion, the earlier you become independent financially, the more likely you will be living a comfortable life with your finances. Better to know this and be prepared, if you are young.

my parents taught me to be financially independent when I got my first job, they said don't be wasteful and buy important things, and to be honest, what did they teach me, I always remember until now, it's been many years I never ask them for money, even I send them $70 per month, as my responsibility to them in old age, and my partner agrees with what I do.
1719  Economy / Economics / Re: A steady source of income is a man's bottom line to support his family on: February 20, 2023, 03:18:20 PM
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My friend's story sends me a signal: no matter how much I earn right now, try to keep my job and souce of income stable. I am also a family man and have responsibilities.

It doesn't matter whether you are a man or a woman, once you are married you both have an obligation to keep your family's finances in balance. I'm married and I'm lucky I don't have a patriarchal partner so I can make money. no one can predict the future, collecting as much money as possible from now on is the best way to be financially secure in the future.

Anything bad can also happen to me so I have to be prepared to the unforseen problems, although I am doing fine now. Make hay while the sun shines. If you have any advice for my friend, please let me know. Thank you.

I don't have any good advice for your friends (when it's hard to get a job that pays enough money in your country), hopefully, some miracle will appear in their family, and if you have a little extra money, give them a little will help a lot.
1720  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: February 20, 2023, 02:21:45 PM
The two teams are still equally good lately and it will still be very difficult to determine which team opportunities will meet the requirements to advance to the next round. Because this time Barcelona will be the guest team at Old Trafford and in the second leg of course the enthusiasm and motivation of Manchester United to win at home is also very large so that the match will still be fierce like the first leg and can even be more exciting than the first leg.

So far, Barcelona has been unbeaten for the 19 matches they have played so far and I wonder if they will be beaten by MU in the 2nd leg match. a draw in leg 1 gives great hope for MU to get victory in leg 2, apart from that MU is fortunate because the leg 2 match will take place at old Trafford and we will definitely see a beautiful and fierce game from the two teams.



in other matches, juventus was also faced with great pressure because they failed to win in leg 1 against nantes even though the match took place at the Juventus stadium. I don't know what other strategies will be made by coach Nantes when facing Juventus in leg 2 later, it seems that the match that will occur will definitely be very hot.
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