My experience: You can only be worried about money if you have money you don't want to lose, for any reason.
No money, no worries (about money).
No woman, no cry.
Money well gives you security, which again, is not happiness. Well, maybe happiness is sometimes dependent on security. But it's not the same at all.
You have to realize that your personal experience does not apply to the whole population. You might not get happier if you get rich, but the majority of people do, as shown by science, and me. In this one you are simply wrong I'm afraid. Still, it's not the money that makes you happier. It are the things it buys you, aren't they? So i stand by my point, people get happier if they get rich, because they know how money makes them able to buy things that make them happy. BUT many things make you happy only for a short time. So people want "more happy", buy more things. The old supercar isn't super anymore? No problem, buy a new one. Enjoy it until you see the next, even more super supercar. The moment you know there is a better one you want to have, you're unhappy (about still having the old one). Not sure about this. Wasn't freedom what we were looking for? The "fuck you" level? There's a lot of unseen continuous costs coming with "things", be it a house, a car, a laptop or a TV: taxes, storage room, subscriptions, memberships, repair and maintenance etc. Buying more things is not the right way of maintaining fuck you level, mate. After all this hodling and determination for years and years to get this virtual money running, are you really going to find happiness in spending your profits on material stuff? Not saying you're wrong or right, only that I have other plans. (FYI if I'm not mistaken, the true meaning of "No woman no cry" is actually "No woman, don't cry") Absolutely right imo. I actually don't believe that things make people happier, i just presented an explanation of a common misinterpretation (of money making people happy) to Arrie. So, freedom from money and from the need to earn-to-survive also creates happiness. This is closing the circle for me. Thanks for pointing to the freedom aspect. On "no woman"... From Patwah (Patois) it would be valid to be interpreted as "no woman, don't cry", too. Too bad Bob (Marley) can't be asked anymore about this. |
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My experience: You can only be worried about money if you have money you don't want to lose, for any reason.
No money, no worries (about money).
No woman, no cry.
Money well gives you security, which again, is not happiness. Well, maybe happiness is sometimes dependent on security. But it's not the same at all.
You have to realize that your personal experience does not apply to the whole population. You might not get happier if you get rich, but the majority of people do, as shown by science, and me. In this one you are simply wrong I'm afraid. Still, it's not the money that makes you happier. It are the things it buys you, aren't they? So i stand by my point, people get happier if they get rich, because they know how money makes them able to buy things that make them happy. BUT many things make you happy only for a short time. So people want "more happy", buy more things. The old supercar isn't super anymore? No problem, buy a new one. Enjoy it until you see the next, even more super supercar. The moment you know there is a better one you want to have, you're unhappy (about still having the old one). |
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On the earlier discussion about money not making you happy. I recall a study done where it's not so much that money makes you happy but not having money makes you less happy.  I think the key is to reach the point where you're not worried about money anymore so you can focus on better things in life. But the less money you have, you certainly do need to worry about money. I've been at the lowest end of the scale to well beyond the highest and I would agree. I would caveat this with the fact that though I did not have money (I figured out the many ways to cook potatoes as it was all I had to eat for weeks, and later finding Bar-S hot dogs for $1 and a loaf of bread for $1 could get me through a week of meals) I knew that if things got too bad I could fall back on family. So my level of desperation never hit huge lows. My current goal in life is not about having super cool awesome stuff, lambos, etc. It's about ensuring that the rest of my life I am not in the position I was early in my life. My problem with government has always been that they are the biggest factor in stopping me from ensuring my future through the use of violence. Thx elwar…. I’m very interested in these kind of studies… Good when I have some discussions with some peeps I’m of the opinion Money doesn’t make happy… but it make thing way easier and that’s why it does make people happy Like not have the need of worrying to pay monthly bills, able of going on holidays etc Then comes the point of more money could be better, holidays can go easier more exciting, a bigger car, better house little more luxury things etc Do I need most of gadgets not really but when there is more money then mostly more things are being bought. I can say there isn’t really a lot making me happy these days from gadgets, I do like a nice house to call home and a nice car to drive with…. So money doesn’t necessarily makes one happy but the comfort it can give and taking away some stress points that’s something anyone becomes happy from… Being able of taking my Gf or brother or someone I like on a trip or at a high class restaurant and give them the experience they wouldn’t have … that makes me happy as well So I’m in favor of having more money as less money is a thing that could give join, an important thing maybe is to use it on important stuff as well and not only gadgets … My experience: You can only be worried about money if you have money you don't want to lose, for any reason. No money, no worries (about money). No woman, no cry. Money well gives you security, which again, is not happiness. Well, maybe happiness is sometimes dependent on security. But it's not the same at all. |
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In the end, if you were not happy before you were rich, it's unlikely you will be happy when you are (rich).
My two cents.
But what if you are unhappy because you aren't rich? Short answer: Then you don't know better. Long answer: Following in the evening. Good day! Elaboration: If you are unhappy because you aren't rich, you ignore the most basic principle of happiness: It comes from the inside, not from the outside. I know only two rich persons personally, both of which are very unhappy. Now guess why? Because they are rich. They are stressed out by their fear of getting poor, either by other people (wife(s), scammers, good "friends", family) or by losing money or wealth because of investments. They secure their homes at the highest level, alarm systems, cameras, gps tracked cars, butlers with military/defense skills. They can never travel alone, not even take a walk outside of their security areas. They are cursed by their richness. One of them was the best drummer i ever saw/heard. He had a room full of vinyl metal records (i miss the 90s), he grew long hair down to the lower back, he was a good drinker, great companion for drug explorations, intelligent, a funny companion, a womanizer... a bit arrogant, though. At the age of 18 his parents, that he occasionally met, took him aside for some "serious talk". After that day i met him only once again, for a very long time. He told us that his parents let him choose either to continue his lifestyle and get disinherited or cut his hair short, give up the band, the metal lifestyle, quit the drugs, cut off the relationships to his friends and become introduced into the life of the riches, and take his place in the family business. I saw him a couple of years ago, walking out of a banks building. He looked somewhat unhappy, with a lot of grief on his face, dressed up royal business style. He didn't recognize me, maybe because he wasn't looking directly at me. I was feeling a little scared (that's not the right term, but i was kind of "surprised" in a negative way). He had to tweak (or kill) his inner self to match the expectations of the world of the rich, to stay inside. He fell for the plain old "selling your soul" thing. Later i got introduced to a nephew of him, who i asked about him, and he just replied "You know my uncle? He is a fucking madman." So i told him the story of his uncle's former teenage life. It was hard for him to imagine that he could have been anything like the rock'n roller i described to him. That was one lesson in life that taught me a lot. The other lesson came from a poor friend of mine. He traveled the world to do some dirty work, just to be able to have money to move on. His belongings were kept in a big backpack, which carried a digeridoo which he used to play for spare change over the world. He spent several months in various monasteries. When he was around again, a common friend asked him why he always seems so happy, without a home, without a job, living this uneasy backpack life, if he never experiences something like sorrow or existential fear. He just said: "i smile". Later on, he explained that he learned one of the most valuable lessons in his life in a british krishna monastery. He was meditating with a big grin, every day, as long as he could. He was told to smile throughout the day, and if he recognizes he isn't smiling, just smile again and keep going. He said that this taught him true, deep happiness. When he came back after over a decade, had two children with a young woman, took a job, then took two jobs, he got more serious and lost his happiness for a couple of years, until they divorced (this girl was a real bitch, imo). He backed away with a backpack again and some of his happiness came back, but he never became the easy, lucky type of guy he was before. I still meet him once in a while. After reading these two true stories, answer me yourself: So what do you think you really need to be happy? EDIT: added some details. EDIT2: remembering this stuff gave me some unpleasant feelings. Gotta work that out now. Good night, comrades. #hodl on! EDIT 3: One last thing: The original wording by my poor, happy friend was "If you're always happy, you can't stop smiling. If you don't stop smiling, you're always happy". He described it as "something like a feedback-looped duality" (freely translated) |
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In the end, if you were not happy before you were rich, it's unlikely you will be happy when you are (rich).
My two cents.
But what if you are unhappy because you aren't rich? Short answer: Then you don't know better. Long answer: Following in the evening. Good day! |
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In the end, if you were not happy before you were rich, it's unlikely you will be happy when you are (rich).
My two cents.
Money can't buy you happiness they say. But it can buy so many nice things (including lambos, hookers and blow) that can make your life at least a tiny bit happier...  I wasn't happy a good time of my past life, but i well could enjoy things. I think many people confuse happiness and joy. |
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I scrolled into this post as my wife entered the room and she asked me, "Is that prison food?!! Is he in jail?" She thought it was an El duderino post. lol
Thanks, that gave me the heaviest laugh of this month, at least!  On Topic: I saw bitcoin climb up the whole day while i was on the road. Seems we're well through the dip again. My brother in law (not the nocoiner, his younger brother) has bought some $TRON last winter, when i recommended him to sell them for Bitcoin and forget about it for a year, before he might have a look at the price again. Saw him today and forgot to ask him if he followed my advice. He's around town the whole week, so i gotta ask him tomorrow (if i don't forget about it).
Also, while I am shouting-out, sincere thanks to Dabs as well, as I have added the "plank" (and a variation on the theme) to my own exercise program.
You have to add the side-plank, mandatory for balanced upper body musculature. Reverse rows are making strong arms and corrects poor posture, you might consider adding them as well. |
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Short the shit out of this false breakout dudes like a boss! Dont be sheep, sell like a man.
Disclosure: Sold BTC772 at $153.
That simple post stopped me in my tracks this morning. I had to spend a few minutes pondering over it. It's the same way those selling at >$40,000 will also look in a few years from now. Do a mental take on it to get the impact of that reality in today's value. As far as we know you are quoting a dead man. He held a lot of bitcoin while he was alive, and probably lost more than many in this thread could imagine. But he was mentally unstable, had a bit of an unhealthy relationship with substances, and ended up leaving behind a wife and kid. He bought a haunted house in Estonia for a million USD and it burned down a while back. Possible his "death" was a hoax. Yeah, with him that's very possible. But I don't think so... Possibly the biggest lesson to learn from Risto is all the money in the world is truly worth nothing in the end. The things we think it gains us? They cannot be purchased. Happiness cannot come from wealth. Risto spent a lot of time trying to buy himself the admiration of others. he surrounded himself with people who would worship him. And in the end he lost everything, and in a spectacular and tragic way. Popescu is another that fits a lot of these sorts of things, though I think he worshiped himself enough not to need many others... There are some folks in this thread with plenty of money who live miserable lives, and some who have only a little, but have happiness. And there are a few who have both wealth, AND happiness... but have you ever noticed how that seems to be the smallest group? Interesting. And worth thinking about considering where we are going. Many of you who have a "little, and happiness" are not going to stay in that group for much longer. Make sure you hang on to what matters and live life along the way. No moment can ever be reclaimed. In the end, if you were not happy before you were rich, it's unlikely you will be happy when you are (rich). My two cents. |
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I'm glad i clicked show/hide, which i rarely do on your posts, this time mainly because of "a feeling". Once in a while i check if your content has become a little more creditable over time, but this one was the luckiest strike in quite a while. |
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So it's BTC going sideways again or why is Covid/vaxx on the table again in WO?
Act responsibly.
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Is the infastructure bill FUD over? I try to find infos but cant find much.
Try twitter or maybe even reddit. The bill would be put to work in 2023 if it passes the house voting, afaik. It's not that shocking, is it? |
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......- she said that on the internet, they call people like me stalkers. dude if you're a stalker, I'm afraid to think what I am.... (My 13 year old daughter just begs me to not embarrass her while we are out in public....) Ahh! Classical parenting  He would be a stalker, if the "stalked" person doesn't want to be "stalked". I'd explain it to my kids by saying "it's just a game of a group of adults". |
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https://twitter.com/SenToomey/status/1423731811096670215Senator Pat Toomey
@SenToomey
While I appreciate that my colleagues and the White House have acknowledged their original crypto tax had flaws, the Warner-Portman amendment picks winners and losers based on the type of technology employed. That’s horrible for innovation.
Later on (Spoiler Warning): DO NO HARM
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Currently started looking into Bisq.
Any exceptionally good or bad experiences to share, my WO brothers?
I would just warn, that unless you are buying Monero there you are significantly raising your tainted coin risk. Worth to you what it is worth to you. Thanks, good point. I was thinking about that, too. Also the fiat payment options, with bank transfer as the most accepted but least attractive one. Monero as an intermediate currency would be ok-ish most of the time, though. |
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the noon wall report  that sure brought back some memories lol Thats funny 'cept, I am glad no one ever gave me LSD without me being aware. That could be a very cruel thing to do. The thing about is that you wouldn't be aware that you are on LSD, if you never or only occasionally did it before. I could handle it, but i would take revenge of some sort for sure. |
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Currently started looking into Bisq.
Any exceptionally good or bad experiences to share, my WO brothers?
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@ElizabethWarren Politicians in charge are so dumb, they can't even understand Bitcoin. (recently referred to as the "wild west of finance") How are they supposed to act responsively with only a spoon full of intelligence? Asking for a friend  |
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I know that Wall Observation is a little off topic  but there's a sizeable wall at $38k on Stamp just waiting to be pulled down (hopefully) and not too much resistance after that. We all know how quickly walls can get pulled or munched away... I was just looking at it  Hopefully we have some hungry buyers. The good thing about sellwalls is that buyers can get their coins without pushing the pricer (and thus buying at higher prices in the process). These are opportunities that cry for being taken, imo. |
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