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1801  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: June 26, 2017, 11:23:20 AM
The most easy way to make a profit are no deposit bonuses because you can win but you can not lose anything. Skill based games have tendencial a higher chance to make a profit but this depend also on your personal skills.

Oh well you might have some point but for me, tere are different styles on how you approach gambling some would strategize and some would just base it on pure luck. Some would even think they are lukcy that they will go all in. And at the end of the day, if you win then you are lucky, but if you lose then its just not your day already and take that hint to go home.

In short, if your playing sessions are no longer giving you happiness or it is no longer fun at all, that is a very good hint that you must stop at once already. Don't ever chase your losses and call it a day. Fight again another day and hopefully, you will already win it. But there is really ni point on chasing losses, just play for fun.
in fact planning is too much important in gambling, you need to select a limit for every day, and never try to cross the limit, for this you need to have good decision taking policies and that can only be done if you are playing gambling with planning.

Setting limits is a must in order to gain profit from gambling, Limiting on how much to spend and when the target percentage of winning if ever achieved better stop for that day. Playing without plan is like just giving it to anyone,then better give it to those in really needs or put in charity atleast you can still be happy helping others. ☺

Wow you hit it! Smiley it is really true that if we are not having any pre-planned bets, we are most likely will going to lose at the end of the day because that is how realistic is it. So if that is the kind of gambler you are, better donate those bankroll to those in need and you will have more blissful feeling inside yourself that you are able to help other people.
1802  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: June 26, 2017, 11:20:47 AM
I love bitcoin, but I'll choose gold. Gold has existed for many years and it has the ability to make transactions without the Internet.

I respect that preference mate. I too have some investment with gold but not that much really as compared to bitcoins and other investment vehicles that I have. I also do some stocks and mutual funds and is now planning to do some offline brick and mortar investment.
1803  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: June 26, 2017, 11:18:58 AM
Do you gamble for fun or for profit?
I gamble for both fun and profit since I don't take gamnling seriously and I dont take it too easy. This is helpful in order to make a better bets and making decision.

That is right mate. When you play it cool and with ease for fun and entertainment, you are doing it right mate because that way, there is less stress and you will enjoy the game without some anxiety whatsoever.
It's a good thing if there is the balance there. It's not that it should be taken so seriously, it's just with the right amount. You should know that you have to limit yourself in how much you are willing to let go so that when you lose, it wouldn't be as hard as you think and it's just okay because you have conditioned yourself with that.

That is true, mate. When you play it cool and play it lightly, everything seems to go flawlessly but yes, I agree that this one is better said than done. That is why we should always strive hard and keep reminding ourselves to just play for fun and entertainment.
1804  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: June 26, 2017, 11:16:44 AM
For me it has been so far. You can check my prediction thread in this board to make profit from the free tips I post there occasionally. It has been profitable so far because of a rigid discipline I have been very strict to follow it. I am talking about sport betting only and not game of chances like slots etc. I always have checked every possible news, injury, missing players, standings, if it were worth for a specific team to have the win or if they were playing just for statistics , followed many many betting prediction sites and only after this massive review I choose on which event to bet on. So far it is looking good, but most of the time gambling cannot be profitable in the longer term.

You are very just in explaining it, my friend. There are other people that feel so certain and are confident enough to say that they have so strategies and they are earning well with gambling but this just really motivate other people to gamble and end up losing. With your testimonial with a sort of disclaimer, that is fair enough.
1805  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I quit trading on: June 26, 2017, 11:11:02 AM
I almost stop trading when i lost 70% of my investment. But that's how it works. Lost focus and your done.
It is not bad when we lost sometimes. Being a trader , we need to accept the fact that we may lost our money sometimes because we may be wrong sometimes investing we need to learn from it, we need to correct that thing and in that we will be good trader and we can avoid losing again sometimes.
Yeah. Losing is part of being a trader. I can considered that losing is the best teacher for you to learn in the trading world. I know it is good if we learn a lot for us to change the wrong move.
You have a good point. If you are a trader you can win and also you can lose. Being a trader losing is part in the trading world. Trading is a high risk job so we must be care.

Correct. Trading is really a risky task and can be very emotionally draining if you do not know what you are doing. However, if you gain trading knowledge and skills, you are up to greater gains because more risks means more profit and when you have more winning trades versus losing trades, you are up for a big earning profit.
1806  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: June 26, 2017, 11:08:33 AM
It is, in my opinion, people who play and gamble that seem greedy and materialistic and the person get easily angry, that's someone who shouldn't play. Knowing that gambling could lead you to destruction in the bank and probably with your relationship with your loved ones. That's just epic, you should know your limits.

Not everyone is greedy, Im not greedy when I gamble because it is only for fun however it is different for some people that want profit so it depends on people wether it is right or wrong. I think it is wrong to gamble for profit but some people think that it is the right thing to do because it could get them profit faster than anything else

Not everyone greedy but every person has greedy nature. Some people will control their greediness like you and someone not, this kind people will become an addicted gambler. Gambling is not good to play for profit. We use this gambling only to get entertainment. Other than this if we use for anything it is wrong.

If one can control their greed one can become better in getting over the gambling addiction. But it is true that many players play just for fun and not for profits. There are many players who wait for tips in the chat-room and then beg for tips in online casinos. They might try to multiply that amount if they can as well. So if it a big win they have actually made a profit out of a free tip. However it is rare and in most cases time wastage is more than any worthy return.

You are correct mate that if those wasted time begging for tips in chatrooms, they do some work online, they can earn some good money that they can share to their loved ones, family, friends, and buy things that they want and need.
1807  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: June 26, 2017, 11:06:18 AM
Do you gamble for fun or for profit?
I gamble for both fun and profit since I don't take gamnling seriously and I dont take it too easy. This is helpful in order to make a better bets and making decision.

That is right mate. When you play it cool and with ease for fun and entertainment, you are doing it right mate because that way, there is less stress and you will enjoy the game without some anxiety whatsoever.
1808  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: June 26, 2017, 11:04:15 AM
If someone which follows the set of rules and be discipline enoff. Can people make 50-100 $ a day just gambling in online casino.....?

At first, making money from gambling seems like a dream. But like in every other business, routine will take the pleasure away. You may not be disciplined enough to follow your own rules! Wouldn’t it be pity to lose money, after all that research and study? Yet, even reputable and notable sharp bettors may lose their discipline after a long losing streak.Let’s not hurry things up though. Most probably, you’re having a difficult time to break even to say the least. Winning in the long run seems too far away at the moment.

Because of the house edge advantage of these both offline and online casino, if we still play in the long period of time in a session, we will get reckt along the way because house edge is at play already. Better play just for fun and entertainment.
That will surely happen, the advantage is there and we cannot eliminate that.
Maybe some gamblers who are uneducated and has no experience will think that they can win in the long run, because of their eagerness to win they get blinded with the reality which is not good if you are looking for ways to win, you should be very transparent to the reality to determine your chances. Gambling can only be profitable in the long run if there is no house edge, you can play like poker, that is called skilled based and it's possible.

You are definitely correct mate. We should always have that in mind that there is house edge advantage of every casino we are playing with. That is really the reality and you can prove it to yourself with the loses you incur during your gambling sessions.
1809  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: June 26, 2017, 11:02:17 AM
full of patience to do trading.
Buy coins whose prices keep rising.
Save the coin and observe the price.
When the coin prices rise, immediately sell if you want to make a profit.
With a small amount of money that is budgeted for trading, I guess the right way to increase it is to buy an altcoin that is undervalued.
There are a lot of surprises in altcoins than in bitcoin since there are tokens or coins that will only cost like 100 sats and might increase to 10,000 sats or more in just a short period of time. Well, luck is also important because investing is also gambling, therefore keep reading to determine what coins that will bring you good money.

That is true. There are many things that we need to know in trading with cryptocurrencies and take advantage of those information - one of it is that, undervalued or very pretty cheap altcoins have the opportunities to rise its price in an instant when some sharks play around with it.
1810  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: June 26, 2017, 10:59:21 AM
obviously gold would be the safe bet and bitcoin the risky. With gold having had thousands of years of maintained value and bitcoin being a few years old and extremely volatile.

No. Gold is not as safe as gold because as you can see, gold is too old and obsolete and moreover, it is physical and easily be harmed by other things. Buying bitcoin is buying the future. You will be rich
Are you sure that? Do you know Bitcoin very risky more than Gold, it just a virtual value and not real, if the world's will not accept Bitcoin, it can died and can loss your money any time, but Gold, it just rising up every year and is best choice for saving money in past time and today!

For me, they are both good investment to take. With gold, you can assure that it will last forever as in long term investment and with bitcoin, you can take advantage of its high price and popularity at this press time. We shall not underestimate the virtual products because they are the future - look at microsoft, isn't it a virtual product? The app you use with your phones? hope you get my point! Wink
1811  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: June 26, 2017, 10:56:04 AM
The most equitable game, Blackjack, is still designed to take 50 cents from every $100 a player spends over the long haul. Card-counting can wipe out that edge but can't be done online. Other games take $5, $10, even $30 of the Benjamin, though, with no shortage of takers. All of them guarantee losses, yet we still play–in casinos and anywhere that sells a lottery ticket (possibly the worst, and most popular, bet you can make)

Poker and blackjack are certainly the best to win some money but you won't be able to do it for a long time. Although I did read about a strategy involving real dealers in blackjack. Basically you have to identify clumsy dealers or bad dealers and play at their table because he will accidentally flash the face-down card, he strategy is called “card holing,” and it can give you a 6 to 9 percent edge over the house which is pretty huge

I can really sense that you are really an expert in card games mate! Smiley you are the kind of person that I afraid to play cards with in real life because no matter what I do, I will surely lose because of your skills of counting cards and other skills that could make you win! Smiley
1812  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: June 26, 2017, 10:53:39 AM
If you want to have an steady income, you need to have a business or make an investment. Because steady income need an stable business. Also try the mining because I think mining gives an assurance to income.
Working in government agencies to get the right income is the most correct.
But if we do business to earn a fixed income is the most difficult thing if we are not diligent in running it can even lose our money all.

Before even attempting to go into business, you should be well aware that there is greater chance that you will experience loss along the way. That is why it is highly advisable to find a business that you really love so that you will have more patience in running it amidst some pitfalls.
Agreed, with business profit is not assured for all the time. So it's good to find the one you're passionate about and this will make you never give up even when something worse happens. Importantly don't invest everything you've into the business, because you don't know about the end. Have a small sum of amount to sustain hard situations or for further development of things were happening good.

That is so true mate. We should always have some extra savings for the rainy season - never assume that when you start a business, everything will go well because it is not, unless you are lucky and is a good marketer and you are in the right place and in the right customers. The lesson is that diversify and invest to things that you love,
1813  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: June 26, 2017, 10:50:55 AM
full of patience to do trading.
Buy coins whose prices keep rising.
Save the coin and observe the price.
When the coin prices rise, immediately sell if you want to make a profit.

Straight to the point, direct, and very good advice.
Above are basically what we need. Just buy low and sell high do not complicate things.
When you get to be used at trading, you will discover some strategies and will do well with trading.

Though i think thay applies better if you have a good capital. With very small amounts, i doubt that this technique can be maximized. With trading, its importsnt that you also have a good capital so your effort, time and risks would be worth your earnings

When you are just learning to trade in cryptocurrencies, it is best advice to start slow so you will not be risking big amount of money as you learned and go through the process. When you are already a good and skillful trader, there is really no point to only use a small bankroll because you are already equipped with the necessary knowledge and skills.
1814  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: June 26, 2017, 10:48:57 AM
Do not forget the fact that it is also smart if we know our limitations.

How are you smart if you only know when to stop? You cant make money all the time and stop when you get the money. In fact if you want to be considered smart then you should gamble the smart way which is to play with EV+ betting. Thats the only way that you will be considered as smart otherwise there is no
yes to me one can be smart  in gambling if he have good experience in gambling and may have good gambling skill and tricks, he must have spent good time in casino so that he may know the right time to play and when needed to stop.

I agree. experience is really a big factor when it comes to playing smart. It doesn't only apply to gambling but with pretty much anything whether it's trading, business, sports. Experience gives you  advantage because you would have been through a lot of situations already and you would have learned valuables lessons there. Like for gambling, you'd be smart if you know how to contain your emotions whatever the results of your game would be. Most mistakes happen when you lose to those emotions and you make decisions after that. Your experience would make you more in control



I could not agree more with you mate. Experience is really a good teacher and will guide us along the way as we journey to our lifetime. It is the best teacher and if you are wise enough to use it for your advantage, then do it because experience is one of our best assets in this life.
1815  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How do you manage ur emotions? on: June 26, 2017, 10:45:46 AM
i voted for occasionally end up with low outcome being a regular trader for equity and commodity also crypto currency lots of time I break the plan initially made finally end up to loss or low profit.

I also a guilty of breaking my trading plan and my trick to overcome this is that after I made a trade, I actually sell right away according to the price I planned to sell and then log out. I will just log in after a couple of hours and when the price is not hit yet, I then do another trade and just rinse and repeat - no emotions involved.
1816  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: June 26, 2017, 10:40:39 AM
Do you gamble for fun or for profit?
Well, I gamble for make some profit to provide all my need in my daily life. However, playing in gambling sites is too risky because there is a possibility that you money would not come back anymore. In addition to that, there are of people who play in gambling sites that there motive is to gain or win more money.

If your motivation is really just to earn money with gambling, then you will potentially get more disappointments and stresses in life because you will be most of the time lose from these online casinos, and even offline casinos, because they have house edge advantage. Just play for fun and entertainment and if you win, it will be an added bonus for you! Wink
1817  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: June 26, 2017, 10:37:50 AM
If you want to have an steady income, you need to have a business or make an investment. Because steady income need an stable business. Also try the mining because I think mining gives an assurance to income.
Working in government agencies to get the right income is the most correct.
But if we do business to earn a fixed income is the most difficult thing if we are not diligent in running it can even lose our money all.

Before even attempting to go into business, you should be well aware that there is greater chance that you will experience loss along the way. That is why it is highly advisable to find a business that you really love so that you will have more patience in running it amidst some pitfalls.
1818  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What did you do in the past 24 hours in Poloniex? on: June 26, 2017, 10:35:45 AM
Today, I only sold 1.5 ETH at its high and bought 40 ETC in the morning.

I expect good things from ETC. Let's see if it comes true. I'm also planning to sell some btc if we get $3,000 within a week.

Wow I can really sense that you are a cool and patient trader my friend. That is really how it should be done, sell high buy low, period. We should not complicate things up. When we see that the price is going up steadily, don't buy and hold until you see some drops.
1819  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: June 26, 2017, 10:32:37 AM
Regarding the fact strategies don't help, true, dice is random, but this makes it more interesting.
But you will burn your coins very fast, i don't think it is interesting, rather foolish.


Yes, it's like bad with strategy, but much worse without any strategy.

Without a organized gameplay you decrease considerably the profit chances in game. You can't start betting without thinking first how to increase the bet on loss, return to base on winning... If you start betting random you won't have even the chance to stop the game with some profit.
No, you don't. There is no such thing, you can't increase or decrease your chance in gambling. Chance is always the same no matter what.
If you are lucky you will win, if you are not lucky you won't.
Martingale(like this one for example) is proven very bad strategy with only one outcome - lose. Whoever tells you different is lying.

No matter what kind of strategies, you will still going to lose if you will not stop when you are already having a winning streak. You will be eaten up by the house edge advantage of these casinos.
1820  Economy / Gambling / Re: Investing in btc casinos on: June 26, 2017, 10:31:06 AM
The only site where I have been registered on where I see an option where you can invest in the casino is on yolodice.
But I hear also cryptogames does as well but I am not on there so I can not say how that works and how much they pay out at the end of the investment term you pay into.

But on the one I am on it is a good amount just for depositing into the site's bankroll..
which I play on myself so it is a solid investment for me. Grin
There are lot more sites with investment option(safedice,bitdice,bitvest), you should visit other sites too. diversified investment is a lot better than investing in just one.
AFAIK crypto-games is currently highest bankrolled site with 5000 BTC invested in total.

But casinos would not provide the good returns to back right in gambling. I purely suggest to the gamblers to take part in any sports or other forms of betting. Dice roll or slot run casinos are nice if you are get luck to see the huge amount in one shot or mostly wins in the game. Betting is simply working knowledge mostly sometime luck factor also work like sports team fortunately win without big team members.
gambling is pure on luck of each gamblers all of us play gambling games with knowledge but this was testingbyour luck. Me i do sportsbetting and roll dice in nitrogen and that is what i love to do to make me entertain every single day. But ofcourse i won in summary playing in nitrogen.

Gambling is not what he speaks of here. He means to invest in the bankroll of the casino. It is a good idea for a long-term investment and I I encourage the use of altcoins. Altcoins can get some attention too. Not always a Bitcoin casino. It's a nice change. Also the coin that is invested can increase in value and then in number by the casino winnings.

It is indeed a good idea to diversify with your bitcoin investment and accumulation - it is hard to just rely on one mode of bitcoin acquisition like just in trading or gambling because if you screw up, you are empty handed versus if you have other investment like investing to online casinos that accepts third party investors.
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