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1861  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Glycyrrhizin, the cure for Coronavirus. on: February 12, 2020, 05:01:13 AM
The control and cure for Coronavirus and SARS is here - https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(03)13615-X/fulltext#fig1. But it will take a little reading to understand. Simply stated, the cure is glycyrrhizin, a compound/extract from the licorice root. Licorice root can be purchased, either whole root or extract, in many health food stores.
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More than likely there are many nutritional, hygienic, and homeopathy treatments that work, without the dangers of vaccine induced side effects.

Cool

This is crazy talk. You need to STFU.

Do you have proof that it is crazy talk? If you don't have such proof, maybe it is the best wise talk around.

Your suggestion (order?) that I STFU, is something that is ordered by folks who want to see people die, except if Big Pharma can make a lot of money off helping them to live. Whose side are you really on?

Cool
We've had discussions before. You have no understanding of basic chemistry and in some cases, are advocating things that are outright dangerous. This is one of them.

https://www.livescience.com/65568-licorice-overdose-high-blood-pressure.html

A good friend of mine believed this kind of garbage, thought he could take natural remedies, then was admitted to hospital with similar symptoms, bp > 200. He had a stroke and now is half paralyzed for life. The stroke was the result of the "natural remedies."

So yeah, on some stuff you really should STFU.

1862  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Lol now being sensible is racist they told me I am a racist okay then on: February 12, 2020, 04:50:31 AM
I am now a racist scum bastard because I want to not take a great risk on my health.

I was sit on the train with no other person in my superior class. The others preferring to pay budget and have discomfort and noise. I not wealthy but it worth a extra fee to watch my phone with no disturbance.  

Next thing 6 Chinese or perhaps Japan coming with mask, gloves and even diving goggles. 1 sneezing and coughing. Fearing my health I jump out my seat and remove from this class to any other space with the budget. Actually I prefer to jump off the train but not sure if that would be more danger than virus. It start to move before I look up from my phone and notice the possible danger  

Of course they might not be corona virus sufferers but I will not risk if I can avoid to suffer too. This is sensible I feel.

I think they notice my fear cos I hear them shouting after me racist pig and other attacks to me. Usually I would fight them for a ubuse me like this but I prefer to avoid contact if possible.

I want to survive not be a racist wtf one have a full face hazard mask like nuclear mask. I have no protection. If they not sneezing and coughing I will may keep my superior class seat.

I don't have any racist ideas if anyone black or Caucasians was sneezing coughing right now I will remove from there. Why must I risk to get sick or be racist scum?

World has gone racist crazy on any single idea.

I hope they are okay and well I don't wish harm for any person



You did right.
1863  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Glycyrrhizin, the cure for Coronavirus. on: February 11, 2020, 06:25:46 PM
The control and cure for Coronavirus and SARS is here - https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(03)13615-X/fulltext#fig1. But it will take a little reading to understand. Simply stated, the cure is glycyrrhizin, a compound/extract from the licorice root. Licorice root can be purchased, either whole root or extract, in many health food stores.
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More than likely there are many nutritional, hygienic, and homeopathy treatments that work, without the dangers of vaccine induced side effects.

Cool

This is crazy talk. You need to STFU.
1864  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donald Trump Has Been Impeached. What's Next? [serious discussion] on: February 11, 2020, 06:24:05 PM
.....]He's never been a conservative. Although you could conjecture that his stands are the result of a political trying to give something to voters of all persuasions.

But why do you want to keep talking about him? He is done, over with. I hear the Utah house is close to censoring him for that little display in Wash. DC. The story isn't over, but it's over as far as any nation wide relevance or impact.
Romney is not a conservative is one of the craziest things ive ever heard.
Hes always been a conservative. could say he was more conservative than either Bush.  are you saying he isnt a conservative because her didnt vote Trump not guilty?  That doe not make him not a conservative.

Okay, how about he's a conservative and a liberal?
1865  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: February 11, 2020, 03:12:48 PM
However if you would like to continue believing that a LIA and the GSM are separate and unrelated events that somehow circumstantially occur together, instead of the GSM being the obvious cause of the LIA, have fun with that.

I have not been able to find a single peer reviewed scientific study that suggest that the GSM (or any GSM) was the likely (much less 'obvious') cause of the LIA.

Are you saying that it's obvious the LIA was caused by a GSM.

If so, are you aware of any peer reviewed scientific study to back up your claim.



The Sun warms the Earth, so we must look somewhere else, other than the Sun, if the Earth cools as it did in the Little Ice Age.

Let's see how logical that is. "Winter" is the result of orbital factors and planetary tilt, affecting Solar watts per square meter on a given part of the Earth.

Smiley

And even a "Little" Ice Age is worse than a "winter."

But solar effects are not the cause, you say? Well, where did all that heat go? I'm sure the people in the LIA who starved during the "Year without a Summer" would really like to know that one. They blamed witches, often or not. The very conception of witches today dates from those time.

"Cold as a Witch's Tit"?

Now where did that saying come from?

Are you saying that it's obvious the LIA was caused by a GSM?  Or that there's any evidence that suggests there will be another LIA in the near future?

If so, are you aware of any peer reviewed scientific study to back up your claim.

This isn't a personal attack.  I'm honestly just looking for answers. 



Here is a short summary of work on climate & solar etc. as it affects the Maunder period.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/earth-and-planetary-sciences/maunder-minimum

I am not sure what part of this you are having trouble understanding.
1866  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: February 10, 2020, 12:55:32 PM
However if you would like to continue believing that a LIA and the GSM are separate and unrelated events that somehow circumstantially occur together, instead of the GSM being the obvious cause of the LIA, have fun with that.

I have not been able to find a single peer reviewed scientific study that suggest that the GSM (or any GSM) was the likely (much less 'obvious') cause of the LIA.

Are you saying that it's obvious the LIA was caused by a GSM.

If so, are you aware of any peer reviewed scientific study to back up your claim.



The Sun warms the Earth, so we must look somewhere else, other than the Sun, if the Earth cools as it did in the Little Ice Age.

Let's see how logical that is. "Winter" is the result of orbital factors and planetary tilt, affecting Solar watts per square meter on a given part of the Earth.

Smiley

And even a "Little" Ice Age is worse than a "winter."

But solar effects are not the cause, you say? Well, where did all that heat go? I'm sure the people in the LIA who starved during the "Year without a Summer" would really like to know that one. They blamed witches, often or not. The very conception of witches today dates from those time.

"Cold as a Witch's Tit"?

Now where did that saying come from?
1867  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: February 10, 2020, 12:43:00 PM

I have not been able to find a single peer reviewed scientific study that suggest that the GSM (or any GSM) was the likely (much less 'obvious') cause of the LIA.

Are you saying that it's obvious the LIA was caused by a GSM.

If so, are you aware of any peer reviewed scientific study to back up your claim.


As we learned from climate-gate, the 'peer review' process in climate-land is a meaningless circle-jerk of scientpriest conspirators.

You'd have to look pretty hard a 'peer-review' of anything which doesn't support the fraud because anyone who did so will be black-listed from academia and will have to find a new line of work.

On the flip side, a 'peer review' of the most flawed and ridiculous 'climate-change-caused-foo' paper will sail right through the 'peer review' process in it's current implementation.  So 'peer review' is doubly meaningless.



If you think scientific peer reviewed studies are a sham, I get it. 

But what's better?  Your own research?  Something else?  When it comes to science, what do you consider the most reliable source?

Both of you are posting on bitcointalk.org, a forum which exists because of a single 9 page un-peer-reviewed paper.

Just a reminder...
1868  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Global Warming Real? on: February 10, 2020, 02:42:37 AM
Some people believe that global warming is just the conspiracy to control the development of industrial country. Sometime, I think so. What about you?  

Scientists worldwide agree that global warming is happening, and that human activity causes it...

No they do not.

They typically may say something like human activity is a partial factor.

It depends on semantics....

No, none of that double talk is necessary at all.

Human activity is simply one dimension affecting climate, and within that, there are regional issues such as the "brown cloud" over Asia, farming techniques, deforestation, and then in one corner a group of issues concerning co2.

Of course politicians latch on these to attempt to exert control. So yes, conspiracies certainly exist.


Yes, there are other factors besides Humans.  The consensus is that Humans are the primary factor, not that it is the sole factor.

And yes, politicians are definitely exploiting the situation.  Some are motivated by the money that is coming in from the fossil fuel industry or simply 'beating the left' , some are motivated by the renewable energy industry or the desire to 'beat the right'.

All we can do is look at the research objectively, which shows that it's extremely likely humans are the primary cause of global warming.

The mathematical factor "climate sensitivity" is the technical way of describing effect of humans.

This replaces vague words like "primary" "likely" blah blah with simple estimated constant.
1869  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: February 10, 2020, 02:40:00 AM
I have read everything you've posted. You haven't provided any evidence that a LIA is likely to happen in the near future.

However if you would like to continue believing that a LIA and the GSM are separate and unrelated events that somehow circumstantially occur together, instead of the GSM being the obvious cause of the LIA, have fun with that.

The GSM was ~350 years after the LIA began.

The little ice age was from ~1300 to 1850, the GSM occurred from ~1645 to 1715.

The GSM was not the cause of the LIA.

"THE" Huh?

So like, I've emphasized getting basically familiar with the historical record, right?

Another good read is Brittanica. https://www.britannica.com/science/Little-Ice-Age

Wolf minimum   1280-1350
Spörer Minimum   1450-1550
Maunder Minimum   1645-1715
Dalton Minimum   1790-1820

These are ALL grand solar minimums.



Ok, to be clear - are you claiming that the Wolf Minimum is the obvious cause of the LIA?

My intentions are not to personally attack you.

Here's the way I see it. We (much later) conceptually tag 1300-1800 or 1500 - 1800 whatever with LABEL. Then we look for CAUSE of LABEL.

That's not the way it works in natural systems with chaotic behavior. That's our brains trying to understand things.

In climate science one is always looking ... guessing ... at the secular curve. The climate on which the external events are superimposed on and which they affect. Definitely, volcanoes have a part.

Secular curve was lower in LIA. Solar effects are the cause of that. Naming the four "GSM" does not clearly deliniate or define the extent of solar effects, which goes far, far beyond GSM TSI.

Today the political correct tendency, if you have a half degree unexplained warming, attribute it to GW. Can't do that for LIA, which makes it very interesting. We don't have an accurate scaler for solar, no more than we have one for human effects on climate or for CO2. We've got some guesses,  but numerous areas of this are poorly understood.

1870  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: February 10, 2020, 12:40:49 AM
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Not speculation. Facts. Also the fact is the entire investigation into Trump hinged on those Carter Page warrants, meaning this whole fucking process was illegal.

I suspect the best is yet to come.
1871  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: February 09, 2020, 11:30:17 PM
I have read everything you've posted. You haven't provided any evidence that a LIA is likely to happen in the near future.

However if you would like to continue believing that a LIA and the GSM are separate and unrelated events that somehow circumstantially occur together, instead of the GSM being the obvious cause of the LIA, have fun with that.

The GSM was ~350 years after the LIA began.

The little ice age was from ~1300 to 1850, the GSM occurred from ~1645 to 1715.

The GSM was not the cause of the LIA.

"THE" Huh?

So like, I've emphasized getting basically familiar with the historical record, right?

Another good read is Brittanica. https://www.britannica.com/science/Little-Ice-Age

Wolf minimum   1280-1350
Spörer Minimum   1450-1550
Maunder Minimum   1645-1715
Dalton Minimum   1790-1820

These are ALL grand solar minimums.

1872  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Global Warming Real? on: February 09, 2020, 11:10:09 PM
Some people believe that global warming is just the conspiracy to control the development of industrial country. Sometime, I think so. What about you?  

Scientists worldwide agree that global warming is happening, and that human activity causes it...

No they do not.

They typically may say something like human activity is a partial factor.

It depends on semantics....

No, none of that double talk is necessary at all.

Human activity is simply one dimension affecting climate, and within that, there are regional issues such as the "brown cloud" over Asia, farming techniques, deforestation, and then in one corner a group of issues concerning co2.

Of course politicians latch on these to attempt to exert control. So yes, conspiracies certainly exist.
1873  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: February 09, 2020, 07:16:25 PM

Or if you wish to stick with the claim that there will be no LIA because it is offset by GW, then please consider where that leads.

The thing is, you haven't provided any evidence that a LIA is going to happen in the next couple centuries, only a GSM, which will only have a temporary effect ( -0.3 C a by the year 2100 is the most drastic estimate I've found)

The thing is, you apparently cannot or will not read the references provided, and persist posting as if the references provided do not exist.

This does not pass a Turing test.

Also, for your three references, the first is previously noted Lockwood 2012, superseded by more recent research. The second is a bad link. The third has no relevance to the current discussion.

However if you would like to continue believing that a LIA and the GSM are separate and unrelated events that somehow circumstantially occur together, instead of the GSM being the obvious cause of the LIA, have fun with that.
1874  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Global Warming Real? on: February 09, 2020, 05:46:47 PM
Sun spots are releases of energy into space, that when it hits the earth, it turns into heat. ...
No, that is inaccurate.
1875  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEE: Donald Trump Hasn't Yet Been Impeached. What's Next? [serious discussion] on: February 09, 2020, 05:44:22 PM
Given most of the posts on this page and the previous page, I guess any serious Trump impeachment discussion has ended and is now devolving into conspiracy talk, Trump worship and the like. Awesome. I thought those that worship Trump and conspiracy theories had their own derivative thread to do that in.


Fair.  The 'serious' part of the discussion has definitely been going down hill.  Since the impeachment is over, I changed the subject to US Politics and updated the rules a little in OP in hopes a civil discussion can continue.

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A thread for civil discussion on US national politics, formerly known as "Donald Trump has been Impeached [Serious Discussion]" and "Donald Trump has been Impeached, what's next? [Serious Discussion]"

Local Rules:
- No baiting, trolling or flaming.
- If you aren't interested in the opinions of those you disagree with, do not post in this thread.
- If you aren't willing to make an effort at being objective, do not post in this thread.
- No personal attacks, name calling, tantrums, circular arguments.
- Don't be an asshole. 
- No spam.

If you have a signature from a spammy signature campaign, and you make vague post about US politics, I'll probably just delete it.

If you don't like these rules, TECSHARE created a thread that isn't self moderated: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5201320.0


Please guys, at least make an attempt to consider each situation objectively ( ask yourself "would I have the same view of a specific situation if the parties were reversed?" ), avoid personal insults and responding to posts with political talking points from either side.


I don't like deleting posts, I'm doing it because there's obviously no intention of trying to have a serious discussion in these posts, not because I disagree with you.

Examples of things that will get your post deleted:
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They even got their conspiracy theories to the Senate this time!! Impressive!!

The piss tape conspiracy wasn't half bad either.. Good entertainment..

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What's next?
Trump's been Impeached.
What's next?
Twitch recommends cheating the Wall Street Journal
So what's next?
Flynn gets off.  What else is next?
Trump-Hate-a-GoGo.
State of the Union.
The babies cry about their Trump-hate.
Formal vote on "impeachment."
More Trump-hate.
Highest rating ever for Trump.
The reeking stink of the Trump-haters.
What else is next?


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Ever heard of the Sixth Amendment to the Constitution?

(don't bother babbling that it does not apply to Trump)

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So, you've lost. I hope you and your similarly minded propagandists and socialist operatives are finally finished with this nonsense.

Yes, lets all move on from how obviously wrong you were for supporting an illegal coup attempt perpetrated by known criminals and move to other topics! You don't like deleting posts, or you don't like deleting posts that agree with you? Seems like there are more than a few perfectly valid deleted posts above.

I'd be good with some admitting they are just Trump Haters.

Why not come out of the closet?

It's no big deal and they certainly have a lot of company.
1876  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: February 09, 2020, 05:37:26 PM
^^^ You two are on the same page, you both agree the Sun is a million mile wide thermonuclear bomb a hundred million miles away. You guys are working together to gaslight me with your pseudo-scientific heavenly spheres. Your fucking balls contradict both the Bible and the laws of physics!

But I would like to see you get some balls.
1877  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: February 09, 2020, 05:27:56 PM
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Is there any peer reviewed scientific research to support this.

Do a better job of reading, and understanding. You've been provided adequate information.

Which peer reviewed scientific articles should I read?  You haven't provided any and all the ones I've found on my own contradict the basis of your claims.

The livescience article you linked "How Often Do Ice Ages Happen?" quotes a scientist saying that because of our carbon emissions it will probably be another 100,000 years before the next big ice age, and only mentions that there's a difference between big and little ice ages.  

I don't see how this is relevant to the claims you've made about global cooling....

Ah. The article I quoted all but the last paragraph left you to find. How is it relevant? Gee I guess it pertains to earlier in this thread presentation:

future T (LIA temp DECREASE - GW temp INCREASE) = nominal or inconsequential.

Should be obvious where this comes from. Total morons argue this. Now let's get back to what your are doing. Yet one more time, you've created a BS process argument. Go back and read your early Lockwood again, and ask some intelligent question. But instead you ask where does this equation come from, that article is not a real science thing, blah blah blah.


So now do you see the relevance of this equation?

Do a better job of reading, and understanding. You've been provided adequate information.

The livescience article you linked "How Often Do Ice Ages Happen?" quotes a scientist saying that because of our carbon emissions it will probably be another 100,000 years before the next big ice age, and only mentions that there's a difference between big and little ice ages.  

I don't see how this is relevant to the claims you've made about global cooling....

Which peer reviewed scientific articles should I read?  You haven't provided any and all the ones I've found on my own contradict the basis of your claims.

More likely you have misunderstood the things you read, or cherry picked certain sentences. Repeating again from the prior posts.

Here is a similar derivation of climate sensitivity.

https://www.nature.com/articles/ngeo2769

Of course to understand it, you must go sideways a bit and first understand the numerical meaning of "climate sensitivity."

Here is a study of a sort that is quite interesting.

https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/full/10.1175/2011JCLI4145.1

It shows a significant temperature decrease during the LIA. That destroys the Al Gore "Hockey Stick" pseudoscientific and false temperature fabrication, which only was presentable by denying the existence of the MWP and the LIA.

Denying history is quite stupid, since realistically we should be concerned with what would be the effects of another LIA occurring. How many would die?


Or if you wish to stick with the claim that there will be no LIA because it is offset by GW, then please consider where that leads.
1878  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: February 09, 2020, 02:09:04 AM
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Is there any peer reviewed scientific research to support this.

Do a better job of reading, and understanding. You've been provided adequate information.
1879  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Global Warming Real? on: February 09, 2020, 02:03:19 AM
Last year i thought is not, but with all winter that should come now and not come , yes global worm is real in my opinion and can be stopped only if pollution will stop.

Global worm?

I will have to think about that.

That sounds really scary.
1880  Other / Politics & Society / Re: RUSSIA develop electromagnetic missiles! on: February 09, 2020, 01:25:47 AM
RUSSIA is trying to develop a range of deadly electromagnetic missiles to add to its already terrifying arsenal of weapons.

Russian Deputy Defense Minister Yuri Borisov said all military conflicts show that electronic warfare means are most of all effective and in great demand in troops in all areas. And according to Russia’s Electronic Warfare Force Commander Major-General Yuri Lastochkin, modern Russian military technology surpasses Western rivals by a number of characteristics, including the range of its operation. He said this was achieved through the use of more powerful transmitters and more effective antenna systems.

The US and Israel are also reported to be carrying out work to create electromagnetic missiles at a time of growing tensions in the volatile Middle East.
The US has deployed warships and troops in the region amid fears of military conflicts with Iran.

weapons are only useful against hostile nations, with friendly nations you need to get some kind of trade relation

Correct. I live in the USA, and do not see Russia as a military adversary. Not at all.
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