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1361  Other / Politics & Society / Re: University Study Finds Fire Did Not Cause Building 7's Collapse on 9/11 on: May 06, 2020, 07:04:52 PM
That part may not be an explosion but neither the hole or the front of the pentagon pic is consistent with a plane crash, that's why I showed you the black marker...

A correction. You didn't show me anything. You posted some pict with no link, no explanation, nothing. So now you get exactly what you deserve...

What black marker?
1362  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: May 06, 2020, 07:03:03 PM
Once again, the federal conviction rate is 98%.
As of 2018, 90% of those facing federal charges plead guilty, 8% have their case dismissed, 2% go to trial.

Of the 2% that go to trial, 83% are found guilty by a jury (or occasionally a judge if they waive their right to trial by jury)
Nice cherry picking.

[img ]https://i.gyazo.com/e65ffa3d9692832d0e89fe3d1e71d6c3.png[/img]


Wow! You repeated your cherry picking, only this time with a graph! Very much more convincing thank you!
And I thought I was the only one that noticed Twitch repeating the same things.
1363  Other / Politics & Society / Re: University Study Finds Fire Did Not Cause Building 7's Collapse on 9/11 on: May 06, 2020, 05:57:19 PM
It's hard to image you are fit for anything except cereal box debates, if the most obvious things such as FBI releases have eluded you then what you doing even trying to figure out 9/11.. you're like 5000 pieces of information behind me.

The other pics were on pg 16 but you always miss these thing.

No plane hit anything, back to pg13 or 14 where I mentioned AA fought to remove itself from the conspiracy. There was no flight 11 on the books at all. There was no terrorist and the images shown on TV were from years earlier at Denver AP. 

I'd get banned if i told you how smart I think you are.

thanks for participating again.

Why, you are most welcome. I'm glad you are now referencing some pages. I don't know what the pages reference are to? Care to explain? Of course, you never explained what the hole in the wall pic was from, I got google images to do that.

So yes, I could (should). be 5000 pieces of obscure, hidden, arcane, information behind you and have no interest to go exploring that rat hole. Please clearly explain a pictorial item, and link to its source, otherwise it has no meaning.

But by the way, your hole in the wall? There is a conclusive proof that it did not come from an explosive detonation, and that is the spherical radius of destruction does not continue into the floor. There is no crater, and thus it was't from an explosion.

There's all kinds of evidence that the hole didn't come from an airplane the size and shape that the official account says.

Cool
Well, if it couldn't have been an explosion, and if you are to believed about "all kinds of evidence", of which you list none, that it didn't come from an airplane, then that only leaves one option.

A GIANT RABBIT. Likely blue or purple in color.
1364  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: May 06, 2020, 05:47:31 PM
Once again, the federal conviction rate is 98%.

As of 2018, 90% of those facing federal charges plead guilty, 8% have their case dismissed, 2% go to trial.

Of the 2% that go to trial, 83% are found guilty by a jury (or occasionally a judge if they waive their right to trial by jury)

You aren't going to face federal charges unless there is overwhelming evidence that you're guilty and the DOJ is confident they can convince a jury to vote unanimously to convict.
Unless someone has a couple million $ and a couple years to spend in federal court, there will be no court trial with a jury. Ever.
1365  Other / Politics & Society / Re: University Study Finds Fire Did Not Cause Building 7's Collapse on 9/11 on: May 06, 2020, 05:45:00 PM
It's hard to image you are fit for anything except cereal box debates, if the most obvious things such as FBI releases have eluded you then what you doing even trying to figure out 9/11.. you're like 5000 pieces of information behind me.

The other pics were on pg 16 but you always miss these thing.

No plane hit anything, back to pg13 or 14 where I mentioned AA fought to remove itself from the conspiracy. There was no flight 11 on the books at all. There was no terrorist and the images shown on TV were from years earlier at Denver AP. 

I'd get banned if i told you how smart I think you are.

thanks for participating again.

Why, you are most welcome. I'm glad you are now referencing some pages. I don't know what the pages reference are to? Care to explain? Of course, you never explained what the hole in the wall pic was from, I got google images to do that.

So yes, I could (should). be 5000 pieces of obscure, hidden, arcane, information behind you and have no interest to go exploring that rat hole. Please clearly explain a pictorial item, and link to its source, otherwise it has no meaning.

But by the way, your hole in the wall? There is a conclusive proof that it did not come from an explosive detonation, and that is the spherical radius of destruction does not continue into the floor. There is no crater, and thus it was't from an explosion.
1366  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: May 06, 2020, 03:08:06 PM
"Supreme Court says Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg hospitalized with infection"
https://apnews.com/a454d2cabfdcc00af60aebbe4aacda87

(the headline is the article - can't find any other details)

SCOTUS pick #3 would huge for Trump.  The talking points, the drama, ect...

I'm sure all the evangelicals will be praying for a speedy  RGB recovery though.

Now this is some breaking fucking news, holy shit. If RGB goes (and theres been so many rumors for so long now) then the court is going to be pushed to the right for decades upon decades to come.

I know me and you are going to disagree on the pick if there is one, though I do truly hope that RGB gets better -- I wouldn't wish death upon anyone.

This is going to be insane. We'll be chatting here in the coming days as further updates come out.

RGB doesn't need to get better to prevent the Courtnado. She doesn't even need to show or or participate in Court activity, she only needs to not die.

But it's near impossible that Trump does not get one OR TWO more justices in place before Ivanka is voted in.

An ideological hard line liberal coming off the court does not move it to "the right", but to the center.
1367  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: May 06, 2020, 02:49:38 AM
Have you considered Flynn's pleading guilty after the FBI agents threatened to charge is son if he did not?

We don't know what really happened.

But, have you considered Flynn's pleading guilty after he knew his son committed crimes and said he would cooperate and plead guilty to lesser charges only if they didnt charge his son?

I already posted a link showing such a thing is exactly one of the prohibited items; thus a valid cause for reversal of a guilty plea in a plea bargain.

You ignored it and kept trudging down the same path.

If you seriously want to discuss the Flynn case, you really need to understand the legal concepts involved, and keep up to date with the case.

Either you are delusional or you are 2 years in the past. WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING is that Flynn is using valid, standard legal technques to overthrow a guilty plea. What part of that do you not understand?
1368  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: May 06, 2020, 02:00:11 AM

Plea was not made voluntarily, or was entered without knowledge of the charge or sentence.
do you ever read things that might disprove what u thinks is true?


THE COURT: Do you wish to challenge the circumstances on
which you were interviewed by the FBI?
FLYNN: No, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Do you understand that by maintaining your
guilty plea and continuing with sentencing, you will give up your
right forever to challenge the circumstances under which you were
interviewed?
FLYNN: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Do you have any concerns that you entered your
guilty plea before you or your attorneys were able to review
information that could have been helpful to your defense?
FLYNN: No, Your Honor.
THE COURT: At the time of your January 24th, 2017
interview with the FBI, were you not aware that lying to FBI
investigators was a federal crime?
FLYNN: I was aware.
THE COURT: You were aware?
FLYNN: Yeah.

Sure. What part of the two elements I bolded have anything to do with your list?

How about you?Have you considered Flynn's pleading guilty after the FBI agents threatened to charge is son if he did not?

Does that sound like it's okay in your internal system of judgement? It doesn't bother Twitch, that's certain.

how do u know they threatened to charge is son?

maybe he knew his son committed crimes and said he would cooperate only if they didnt charge him.

You don't seem to have any problem making assumptions when it comes to Flynn being a victim, but when presented when facts and evidence of him being guilty...totally different story.

You are completely deluded. Let me explain.

I am only describing the reality of a case, in which D is seeking to have a guilty plea overturned, and in which he has multiple methods in law to do so. It is what it is.

You would opinionate on why he's guilty, without even caring about the nature of the problem. Of course we know you believe "Orange Man Bad" and "Friends of Orange Man Bad".  The reversal of the plea will be handled in court.

Does he have a good chance that his strategy will work?

I'm just an observer of this, not an influencer.

You believe you influence opinion by posting on the internet. In doing your little job there you've been fronting a great deal of mis information, mis direction and outright lying.

Have fun at it, but don't you think you might need to go back to self moderated threads?

1369  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: May 06, 2020, 01:35:32 AM

Plea was not made voluntarily, or was entered without knowledge of the charge or sentence.
do you ever read things that might disprove what u thinks is true?


THE COURT: Do you wish to challenge the circumstances on
which you were interviewed by the FBI?
FLYNN: No, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Do you understand that by maintaining your
guilty plea and continuing with sentencing, you will give up your
right forever to challenge the circumstances under which you were
interviewed?
FLYNN: Yes, Your Honor.
THE COURT: Do you have any concerns that you entered your
guilty plea before you or your attorneys were able to review
information that could have been helpful to your defense?
FLYNN: No, Your Honor.
THE COURT: At the time of your January 24th, 2017
interview with the FBI, were you not aware that lying to FBI
investigators was a federal crime?
FLYNN: I was aware.
THE COURT: You were aware?
FLYNN: Yeah.



Your excerpt of the court transcript is simply part of the standard sentencing question and answer. The question posed was when and in what circumstances a guilty plea can be reversed and why. This is an event AFTER the trial.

How about you?Have you considered Flynn's pleading guilty after the FBI agents threatened to charge is son if he did not? That is the very definition of a plea not made voluntarily, isn't it?

Does that sound like it's okay in your internal system of judgement? It doesn't bother Twitch, that's certain.
1370  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Are there Aliens Here Already? on: May 05, 2020, 11:46:49 PM
In Noah's day, some angels rebelled and left heaven to live on earth as humans. Why? The Bible says that they wanted to have wives. (Read Genesis 6:2.) But angels were not supposed to do that. (Jude 6) Like those rebellious angels, most people at that time became corrupt and violent. Jehovah destroyed the wicked people with a flood that inundated the entire earth. (Genesis 7:17, 23) But he saved his faithful servants. To survive the Flood, the rebellious angels returned to heaven. The Bible calls these wicked angels "demons. They decided to join Satan's rebellion, and he became their ruler.



to much bible for me.

But, there are things comming in the skies.

https://www.lafm.com.co/estilo-de-vida/ovnis-habrian-sido-captados-desde-la-estacion-espacial-internacional?fbclid=IwAR0soxYjQ1iX1-Wwotgue42lO_dYGY_sr4P7-qrnTsGQSAL6A1rN3RDDBMc

The article says...

De hecho, recientemente fue detectada una flotilla de ovnis en aparente dirección hacia la Tierra. Las imágenes fueron captadas por una cámara de la Estación Espacial Internacional que tiene como función orbitar el planeta. 

No creo que verdad.
1371  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: May 05, 2020, 11:44:31 PM
....

Yeah I have a feeling she's going to see this and say wtf?
Has it occurred to you there might be some reasons why all the decent candidates, both men and women, are sticking their noses up at getting involved with your operations?

Are you implying that Michelle Obama doesn't want to be considered for VP because she thinks Biden is awful?
She has been pretty clear for years that she has no desire to enter the world of politics. I don't blame her.
What other decent candidates are you referring to?

I'm not seeing the slightest relation of your mis-framing, mis-stating and goal shifting of my argument whatsoever. To help you out I'm going to repeat it for you.

Has it occurred to you there might be some reasons why all the decent candidates, both men and women, are sticking their noses up at getting involved with your operations?

But that does not matter because the pre-selected Democratic VP will be the one that becomes the vested interests puppet after Biden is shoved aside, resigns or dies. There really shouldn't even be the need for a pretense about this.


Pretty simple, direct questions.  I really don't understand your question, which you don't think really matters.

Are you implying that Michelle Obama doesn't want to be considered for VP because she thinks Biden is awful?
What other decent candidates are you referring to?
You know, this is the third time that you've responded with a drone-like repetition of the same exact words and phrasing, which is an attempt to direct a discussion toward predetermined ends. I suggest you think that over and consider that it may be a tactic that works with some people some times, but it's basically ridiculous. Alternately, stick to self-moderated threads?
1372  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: May 05, 2020, 11:14:33 PM
....

Yeah I have a feeling she's going to see this and say wtf?
Has it occurred to you there might be some reasons why all the decent candidates, both men and women, are sticking their noses up at getting involved with your operations?

Are you implying that Michelle Obama doesn't want to be considered for VP because she thinks Biden is awful?
She has been pretty clear for years that she has no desire to enter the world of politics. I don't blame her.
What other decent candidates are you referring to?

I'm not seeing the slightest relation of your mis-framing, mis-stating and goal shifting of my argument whatsoever. To help you out I'm going to repeat it for you.

Has it occurred to you there might be some reasons why all the decent candidates, both men and women, are sticking their noses up at getting involved with your operations?

But that does not matter because the pre-selected Democratic VP will be the one that becomes the vested interests puppet after Biden is shoved aside, resigns or dies. There really shouldn't even be the need for a pretense about this.
1373  Other / Politics & Society / Re: University Study Finds Fire Did Not Cause Building 7's Collapse on 9/11 on: May 05, 2020, 11:01:44 PM
No plane parts worth mentioning.. the parts shown are small enough to fit in the trunk of a car. Just like in PA where they dumped a tail wing on the field.

No sneaking in the pentagon required either, that part was empty and under renovations, why would there be bare brick walls and no furniture in that part if it was being used.

The part to note, which you beat around the bush again and avoided was the size of the hole in the pentagon, which is barely the size of a minivan,, both side walls intact so where would a plane have gone ?

In the other pic with the hole, which is ground level, there is also black spray paint around the whole, its not proof of anything but its like a "cut here" or blast here marker.  the floor looks perfect, hardly a crash site, again only a fool would believe this is a commerical airliner crash

I figured date and time were obvious since the fire hoses are still spraying.


Actually nothing is obvious, that's the basic reason humans use language to communicate.

Like I said, you picked not the immediate wall the plane hit, but some interior wall. If you don't know the exact location and numerous other factors, you don't know anything about that wall's relevance or lack of to your claims.

And what's a tail wing?

1374  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: May 05, 2020, 05:21:02 PM
At the rate this is going the only woman willing to be his VP will be his wife, or maybe his sister, not sure.

Long, long way from fronting the likes of John Kennedy, Bill Clinton or Obama.
1375  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 2020 Democrats on: May 05, 2020, 01:00:05 PM
....

Yeah I have a feeling she's going to see this and say wtf?
Has it occurred to you there might be some reasons why all the decent candidates, both men and women, are sticking their noses up at getting involved with your operations?


But that does not matter because the pre-selected Democratic VP will be the one that becomes the vested interests puppet after Biden is shoved aside, resigns or dies. There really shouldn't even be the need for a pretense about this.
1376  Other / Politics & Society / Re: University Study Finds Fire Did Not Cause Building 7's Collapse on 9/11 on: May 05, 2020, 11:52:01 AM
since you replied to my pic about no planes at pentagon, "it" would be the pics.


So why even take part in this thread, one words replies don't exactly make you look good. ...
You said,

It doesn't even matter what the context or conspiracy, the question is, is it consistent with a plane crash or an explosive...

What is the "it", exactly?
What is the time and date the picture was taken, and where was it taken?

You should get these kinds of questions if you don't post a link, just a picture...

But through google images I locate your pic as a recently released FBI picture of "an inner wall" of the Pentagon after the 911 hijacked plane struck it.  It's in a group of pictures along with lots of crumbled up airplane parts. I didn't see any detail on where that hole was exactly, related to the angle of and direction of impact of the aircraft.

So yeah, what about this pic. Some inner wall of the pentagon. I'm not seeing anything at all there that you can hang a conspiracy theory on. I'm not seeing enough data to address your (poorly framed) question about whether the picture "is consistent with..." A better way to ask might be "is there anything here that directly shows an explosion." The answer to that is no, there are none of the fractured or shattered appearances that would indicate pressure waves faster than the speed of sound in the materials, such as would be the case with a 50,000 fps gas shockwave.  Oops, sorry, that's not at the 8th grade level.

I am seeing something else, which is "don't bother trying to damage the Pentagon by ramming planes into it."

Now, you ask about a pic of a hole in a wall, next to hundreds of crumpled airplane parts, whether that pic is consistent with an airplane crash. Do you think some guys snuck into the Pentagon in the middle of the night with a disassembled Boeing jet, sneakily assembled it, then planted explosives, then in the morning blew it all up?

That seems rather complicated to me and would require some guys working a night shift. They don't like to work night shifts and want more more for them.
1377  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: May 05, 2020, 11:43:23 AM
....
I assume that there's some legal precedent where if someone pulls back their plea, due to them not having correct advice from their legal counsel (or the best advice, that is), then investigators aren't allowed to use that information against them. I'm not a lawyer, and I assume most that are sitting on this forum aren't as well, but I can't see the point in retracting the plea and your negotiating tactic without this being the case.

Republicans on the judiciary committe have already expressed the fact that they want testimony to begin regarding this case. (Not surprising, but still)

This is a perfect case to just throw out of court, or declare a mistrial, in the interests of justice alone. I've bolded the issues in Flynn's guilty plea that separate it from a guilty plea bargain made in good faith.

 If made in a timely manner, courts generally will allow plea withdrawals after sentencing for the following conditions (this is not an exhaustive list):

Defendant was denied effective assistance of legal counsel, as guaranteed by law.
The plea was not entered by the defendant or anyone authorized to act on their behalf.
Plea was not made voluntarily, or was entered without knowledge of the charge or sentence.
Defendant did not receive the concessions agreed to in the plea deal.
Defendant entered a guilty plea under the judge-approved condition that it could be withdrawn if the court rejected the agreed-upon conditions of the plea.
Defendant entered a guilty as the result of promises or threats made off-the-record (assuming they can be proven).
It's simply not enough to claim dissatisfaction with the outcome of the sentencing hearing, assuming it didn't result in a miscarriage of justice. But even without the defendant's request, a judge is required to set aside a guilty plea when there is strong evidence (perhaps latent DNA test results) of the defendant's innocence.

https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-procedure/withdrawing-a-guilty-plea-after-sentencing.html

There is a real problem here that the prosecution with held evidence favorable to Flynn. They are not allowed to do that.

The Brady Rule, named after Brady v. Maryland, 373 U.S. 83 (1963), requires prosecutors to disclose materially exculpatory evidence in the government's possession to the defense. A "Brady material" or evidence the prosecutor is required to disclose under this rule includes any evidence favorable to the accused--evidence that goes towards negating a defendant's guilt, that would reduce a defendant's potential sentence, or evidence going to the credibility of a witness.

..... in cases subsequent to Brady, the Supreme Court has eliminated the requirement for a defendant to have requested a favorable information, stating that the Prosecution has a constitutional duty to disclose, that is triggered by the potential impact of favorable but undisclosed evidence

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/brady_rule


Twich has attempted to argue that the prosecution revealing their evidence wasn't necessary because the case didn't go to trial, but it most certainly did go to trial. In fact, he'd like to argue simultaneously that Flynn was "a convicted felon" and the case "didn't go to trial."
1378  Other / Politics & Society / Re: REEEEE: PussyGate, a Collection of Trump Investigations on: May 04, 2020, 11:55:36 PM
....
How about we just go through and see what we can agree on?  It's tough to have a rational discussion if we don't agree on what actually happened.

Flynn is CEO of FLYNN INTEL GROUP INC. (FIG), they filed under the LDA in Sept 2016 and FARA in March 2017.
On election day 2016 his op-ed Our ally Turkey is in crisis and needs our support
From Sept-Nov 2016 FIG received ~$500k from Iovo, a company based in the Netherlands.

Do you believe these three statements to be true?  This isn't a trick question.
I don't care if they are true. And this isn't a trick answer, because this is a subject of interest to you. But it isn't of interest to me.

Fair enough, I thought you did. Thanks for being honest.
I'm really surprised after all this time that you think he's being honest or can have a rational debate with anyone on this sort of subject. He's just better at appearing more "rational" then techshare. In case you haven't noticed, he will completely avoid admitting or agreeing to anything at all that might mean his point of view could be called into question or that he could be even remotely wrong. His "this isn't of interest to me" statement isn't being truthful. ...


Sure it is, 100% truth. When someone repeats about same time the same mantra, this:

Flynn is CEO of FLYNN INTEL GROUP INC. (FIG), they filed under the LDA in Sept 2016 and FARA in March 2017.
On election day 2016 his op-ed Our ally Turkey is in crisis and needs our support
From Sept-Nov 2016 FIG received ~$500k from Iovo, a company based in the Netherlands.

Do you believe these three statements to be true?  This isn't a trick question.


Such a course of action violates Rule 1 of Internet forums. Be interesting. Translated, don't think that the lying cunts of FBI agents who "interviewed Flynn" are a role model for your own behavior.
1379  Other / Politics & Society / Re: University Study Finds Fire Did Not Cause Building 7's Collapse on 9/11 on: May 04, 2020, 10:15:42 PM
So why even take part in this thread, one words replies don't exactly make you look good. ...
You said,

It doesn't even matter what the context or conspiracy, the question is, is it consistent with a plane crash or an explosive...

What is the "it", exactly?
1380  Other / Politics & Society / Re: University Study Finds Fire Did Not Cause Building 7's Collapse on 9/11 on: May 04, 2020, 08:21:43 PM
In every post where you stepped up you were humiliated, mostly by your own doings. you weren't even able to offer anything besides a one line denial or subject change, they got shorter over time to just a couple of words.

It doesn't even matter what the context or conspiracy, the question is, is it consistent with a plane crash or an explosive...

What is consistent?
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