If anyone got their ass hammered from the Mueller investigation it was his Campaign Chair and Personal Lawyer. They're safe now serving the rest of their prison terms out at home due to the pandemic though, don't worry. Michael Cohen was convicted of tax fraud... The exact same type of tax avoidance for which ten thousand others were NOT CHARGED OR CONVICTED. Look up UBI, it's all a historical record. Now why was Cohen singled out? |
|
|
|
....
I don't think it was off topic when you posted about the same investigation in this thread 7 months ago when it was opened. Pretty sure that this is also what Trump is talking about when he says 'OBAMA-GATE!' 'biggest political crime in American history!'....
The part of this which is notable is that this thread is REEEE, created due to and in response to censorship of the original thread. REEEE was a repository for posts which were deleted by abusive moderators or self moderated threads. Now those threads have starved themselves out, leaving ONLY the REEEE threads (predictable, at least to some of us. Yep. First they create a censored thread, it dies. I create an open thread. They run out of arguments knowing that their communist overlord moderator will not move their off topic posts, they then strip my ability to have a discussion again with topic sliding. FREE SPEECH! Free speech for (liberal authoritarian and totalitarians), not for you. No, no, no. |
|
|
|
The article really does not say what you assert. Here is an excerpt. The Trump administration last month complied with a court order to turn over documents from the voting integrity commission to Dunlap. The commission met just twice and has not issued a report.
Dunlap’s findings received immediate pushback Friday from Kobach, who acted as vice chair of the commission while Pence served as chair.
“For some people, no matter how many cases of voter fraud you show them, there will never be enough for them to admit that there’s a problem,” said Kobach, who is running for Kansas governor and has a good chance of unseating the incumbent, Jeff Colyer, in the Republican primary Tuesday.
“It appears that Secretary Dunlap is willfully blind to the voter fraud in front of his nose,” Kobach said in a statement released by his spokesman.
Kobach said there have been more than 1,000 convictions for voter fraud since 2000, and that the commission presented 8,400 instances of double voting in the 2016 election in 20 states.
“Had the commission done the same analysis of all 50 states, the number would have been exponentially higher,” Kobach said.
In response, Dunlap said those figures were never brought before the commission, and that Kobach hasn’t presented any evidence for his claims of double voting. He said the commission was presented with a report claiming over 1,000 convictions for various forms of voter misconduct since 1948.
Yeah I did read it. I think it means they didn't find any evidence of wide spread voter fraud. What conclusions are you coming to? .... That it is a controversial subject, not adequately explored by this commission, and that a conclusive result in one direct, as you asserted, is not supported by the facts. Of course there have been numerous other inquiries into this subject. I don't need to debate it, because I know for a fact of voter fraud, pro-Democratic, on a historical basis, and don't care to play the little game you have there. |
|
|
|
....
See you, along with claiming the explosives were cast into the concrete thirty years prior. A sort of non-existent magical thermite, wasn't it? Tell us about that magical powder.
What is magical thermite? .... A type of nano-thermite that is detailed in your prior posts. All searchable. We can look them up. I just thought you'd like to explain the idea yourself. |
|
|
|
I think he's always been very strict with high level employees. He's operating as if he was in a business, not politics. Scaramundi, Flynn, Manafort, many others fired. Others more politely asked to depart. He's not operating on the basis of political favors, so this is quite unexpected and incomprehensible to most people.
Trump said he fired Flynn for lying to Pence and the FBI. Why do you think he said that? You and I think in very different ways. I'm hesitant to guess at peoples' motives. Unless knowing a great deal about the people and the situation, there is zero chance of getting such a guess close to the actual motives. So I would shrug off such a thing, as a direction which was a waste of time. You would pursue it, seeking an angle which was advantageous or supportive of something. |
|
|
|
....
Towers collapsing in ways they have never done before without demolition... which their collapse even looks like... demolition.
See you, along with claiming the explosives were cast into the concrete thirty years prior. A sort of non-existent magical thermite, wasn't it? Tell us about that magical powder. |
|
|
|
The article really does not say what you assert. Here is an excerpt. The Trump administration last month complied with a court order to turn over documents from the voting integrity commission to Dunlap. The commission met just twice and has not issued a report.
Dunlap’s findings received immediate pushback Friday from Kobach, who acted as vice chair of the commission while Pence served as chair.
“For some people, no matter how many cases of voter fraud you show them, there will never be enough for them to admit that there’s a problem,” said Kobach, who is running for Kansas governor and has a good chance of unseating the incumbent, Jeff Colyer, in the Republican primary Tuesday.
“It appears that Secretary Dunlap is willfully blind to the voter fraud in front of his nose,” Kobach said in a statement released by his spokesman.
Kobach said there have been more than 1,000 convictions for voter fraud since 2000, and that the commission presented 8,400 instances of double voting in the 2016 election in 20 states.
“Had the commission done the same analysis of all 50 states, the number would have been exponentially higher,” Kobach said.
In response, Dunlap said those figures were never brought before the commission, and that Kobach hasn’t presented any evidence for his claims of double voting. He said the commission was presented with a report claiming over 1,000 convictions for various forms of voter misconduct since 1948.
|
|
|
|
...
When Trump fired Flynn he said it was for lying to the VP. What do you think really happened?
I shared what I think most likely happened. What do you think? .... I think he's always been very strict with high level employees. He's operating as if he was in a business, not politics. Scaramundi, Flynn, Manafort, many others fired. Others more politely asked to depart. He's not operating on the basis of political favors, so this is quite unexpected and incomprehensible to most people. |
|
|
|
.....
But they are all bright enough to see the demolition in the video above.
Just keep repeating a lie, someone might just believe it. Someone... 8th grade is like 13yo..
i treat them with ELI-5 (explain like im 5)
these idiots need to be treated like babies and given babysteps.
So, these 911truthers always have their references and links, to all these Dr.THIS and Dr. THAT and ENGINEER, and all these words to prove to the naive that all this fakery is real. THAT's what I'm debunking with 8th grade level science. These people only repeat this crap,they don't make it up themselves. By the way, there IS ANOTHER conspiracy theory that should be discussed but has been suppressed. The involvement of the Saudi princes in 911. But if I was a Saudi prince and wanted to confuse the issues, I'd throw a couple hundred thousand toward 911truth! If the youtube conspiracy commentators have proven anything, it's that having "Dr." in front of your name means absolutely nothing. Not all doctors or engineers are bright people. Well, that's a very interesting observation. I'm sure some of them are just paid off, and others were just getting on a trendy topic, and still others were senile older. But there may remain a few who have an advanced degree, but who sincerely believe that nanothermite embryos were put in the concrete of the towers when it was poured in 1970. And they all hatched and blew up on 911. But the videos don't show anything like that. They show planes ramming into the towers, and later the towers collapsing from exactly where the planes rammed into them. |
|
|
|
now here is a super paranoia conspiracy to blow your small brain cells on.
enjoy
what if governments can monitor 320milion people. but to save them time, they want to only be monitoring the idiots that are antigov......
then government can see who the idiots on the street are.
Be sure that every one of your conspiracy theories sources either the US government or the Inbred Zionist Baby Eaters. The latter is getting to be a tired meme, though. |
|
|
|
....
I don't think it was off topic when you posted about the same investigation in this thread 7 months ago when it was opened. Pretty sure that this is also what Trump is talking about when he says 'OBAMA-GATE!' 'biggest political crime in American history!'....
The part of this which is notable is that this thread is REEEE, created due to and in response to censorship of the original thread. REEEE was a repository for posts which were deleted by abusive moderators or self moderated threads. Now those threads have starved themselves out, leaving ONLY the REEEE threads (predictable, at least to some of us. |
|
|
|
....
plants dont like the cold. plants dont like low carbon.
...
Cold is an order of magnitude more deadly than an equal increase in heat. but when nature loves the temperature of 22-27 oc saying the 'average temperature of 17 oc is going up by 1-2 oc. doesnt seem to be a 'globe threat' but a human sweat threat im all for the science of what caused what. but when graphs are shown as only 95% confident. and choosing a base line not based on the temperature that is actually healthiest for plant growth. kinda makes the numbers less meaningful. take the temperature measures. they actually have graphs where it shows they tweak the numbers to have a consistent 'dry days' chart they also have charts of 'hottest recorded day' al of this sways to show hot hot hot data yet if they just took data as is. and included the coldest days too. they would not be beating the drum of 'global warming' but in actual fact it would be climate change. (because the numbers for the cold has changed just as much as the hot yep they are saying that the 1950's1980's america is hotter then say the 1850-1920's yet for instance. the 'dustbowl' of the 1930's (hot) yet for instance the US coldest day was recorded in alaska in 1971 (80 degree below zero) and previously in montana was 70 degrees below 0 in 1954 yep it was colder in the 1970s than it was in the 1950's than is was compared to pre industrial levels colds getting colder hots getting hotter. = climate change not global warming .. yes i believe many aspects are man made. such as making all the dams across the US caused water to fill in large lakes which keep the water col to not evaporate as much as it would flowing freely in creeks, streams and farmland. (dustbowl wouldnt have happened as badly in the 30's if dams were not made) humans shifting the natural river courses for irrigation causes different area's to suddenly dry up concrete over land(making cities) stops water soaking into land (less ground water) = less water in underground aquifers which does impact real life stuff california's 'salton sea' dries up because they dammed the river that used to feed it so that cities in california can tap into it instead .. im all for actual science discovery. but not when they tweak the numbers to exacerbate the situation or make it seem more related to carbon. when the reality is infrastructure like dams, water tables, and land moisture absorption. my research is more about how the brazilian RAIN forest being chopped down. causes negative MOISTURE impacts(RAIN) its a rainforest, not a carbon forest after all There are ocean currents which operate on a 60-80 year cycle, such as the Pacific Decadal Oscillation (PDO) which overlay cold-hot-cold-hot patterns on weather. For example, your note of 1950-1980 and so forth. |
|
|
|
....
plants dont like the cold. plants dont like low carbon.
...
Cold is an order of magnitude more deadly than an equal increase in heat. |
|
|
|
8th grade is like 13yo..
i treat them with ELI-5 (explain like im 5)
these idiots need to be treated like babies and given babysteps.
So, these 911truthers always have their references and links, to all these Dr.THIS and Dr. THAT and ENGINEER, and all these words to prove to the naive that all this fakery is real. THAT's what I'm debunking with 8th grade level science. These people only repeat this crap,they don't make it up themselves. By the way, there IS ANOTHER conspiracy theory that should be discussed but has been suppressed. The involvement of the Saudi princes in 911. But if I was a Saudi prince and wanted to confuse the issues, I'd throw a couple hundred thousand toward 911truth! |
|
|
|
pakistan?? now thats a whole new vector of conspiracy.(2010 conspiracy era stuff)
i was trying to keep it to the narrative that the US troops in 2002-3 went to iraq. while other sources were saying bin laden was in afghanistan
yes in something like 2010 reports were that he was hiding in pakistan and shot in pakistan. and moved back to afghanistan(strange) to then be taken again out to sea...
. . but i was just talking about the 2001 era where bush didnt just go to after bin laden, where bin laden was reported to be at that time(afghanistan). and instead bush went on his own separate war with irag for a few years before then trying to find binladen(where-ever he was)
reason im saying this. because the idiots on the other page are stuck with a conspiracy first dreamt up just a couple days after 9-11.. and just trying to beat that old horse aint gonna make it move. so best to give them something more entertaining to use their brain cell on. even if its also outdated. its atleast new to them
I agree completely, they are going to lose if they stick to those "US GOV DID IT" junk. That's what their theories all boil down to. There were no planes, blah blah blah. There was magical thermite molded into the concrete 30 years before. There are these great YouTube links that will explain it all. This is all nothing but funded, calculated anti-American propaganda. None of the theories seem able to withstand an attack with clear, simple 8th grade science. It's comical, really. Anyone should be able to debate at the level of 8th grade science. But they can't. |
|
|
|
..
Ugh, dont even remind me of the flu vaccine. Had it this year for the first time in awhile and still got the flu, pretty sure I'm just on a cycle of getting the flu every few years - regardless of a vaccine or not.
I know the vaccine does help to make it milder, but shit no one could convince me that the flu I experienced this year was milder. Actually -- I should get the Coronavirus antibody test to see if I had it, would be nice to know.
If you already had it, then you could stop worrying about getting it. While it is useless to worry about it, it can mutate right inside your body to another, very similar form..... Let me correct your statement? While it is useless to worry about it, any of thousands of existing virii right inside your body could at any moment mutate to ... |
|
|
|
.... I think that at the end of the day we should follow scientific metrics in how we're going to open the country -- as a country we should follow something like NY in how we're going to open - https://forward.ny.gov/regional-monitoring-dashboard - take a look here and this will show you. NY (and I think NJ too) is following a metric based system in how they're going to open different parts of the state if they're able to pass different metrics that experts have agreed on. Then let NY and NJ pay their own unemployment and welfare costs for those remaining unemployed by their metrics that their experts have agreed on in their infinite wisdom. Those of us in the other parts of the country don't want to support and pay for that. We don't want to bail out their social democracy experiment in corruption, or their government employees bankrupt pension plan, or any other part of their mess. |
|
|
|
OK guys. want to play around with a 9-11 conspiracy theory. bigger than the nonsense of how the building fell
here goes. WHY they building fell
so. years before 9-11 Bush had good communications with bin laden. and with Larry silverstein
bin laden wanted to make a statement and to cause big conflict between the west and the east.
bush wanted to spearhead a presidency as a 'war time president'
and LArry bought the lease for the world trade centre for a measly $32m (contract 3.2bill over 99 years)
yep $32m 2 months before 9-11. and instantly throwing in a large insurance policy should it ever fall, worth more then what he put in.
so the agreement was made.. bin laden would find a few of his idiot followers to train and plan to ram a few planes into certain buildings to send a message. and bush would get to be a historically notable president and larry would make billions at a 100x profit
the building did collapse under its own faults caused by the initial hit damage. but the reason for the fall was politically in favour of the western elite.
bin laden would not be able to have survived to tell his story/give evidence of the initial plan. so ofcourse a shoot on sight order was given.
bush sent troops to different countries known not to be hiding bin laden. to give bin laden a few years to grow his cause. but the end plan was to end bin laden and his cause. but only after the west profited
..
enjoy that story
I disagree but your Conspiracy doesn't require magical thermite, and doesn't require violating physics and chemistry. However the bolded part is false or incomplete. How many years was Biden "hiding" in Pakistan? It's not credible that the Pakistani intelligence did not know this and support it, in exchange for payoffs. It's also not credible that the US did not know this. It was only a matter of picking the time and method to off him. That leads in the direction of the Heroic Raid to Take Out Bin Laden By Obama being a made up drama and pretty much a farce. |
|
|
|
I rather doubt he’s an Iranian puppet.
More likely just a silly deluded fool who likes to perpetuate his nonsensical threads on
these boards because of course he can.
I always picture the sane folks on this forum who are familiar with his buffoonery,
more than likely just shake their head, roll their eyes and scroll past him whenever
he chimes in with his drivel.
That still makes him a an Iranian puppet, just an unintentional Iranian puppet. It remains that argument by proclamation isn't a debate or a discussion. What does that make you? A Saudi puppet? [/quote] Nope. Just a guy that is debunking bad logic and bad math with 8th grade level science. |
|
|
|
Yes! By proclamation. ..
Proclaim all you want, that's idiotic. If you can't actually discuss the physics of your claims at least at the 8th grade level I'm done with you. Do the bidding of your Iranian puppet masters in spreading propaganda. I rather doubt he’s an Iranian puppet. More likely just a silly deluded fool who likes to perpetuate his nonsensical threads on these boards because of course he can. I always picture the sane folks on this forum who are familiar with his buffoonery, more than likely just shake their head, roll their eyes and scroll past him whenever he chimes in with his drivel. That still makes him a an Iranian puppet, just an unintentional Iranian puppet. It remains that argument by proclamation isn't a debate or a discussion. |
|
|
|
|
Show Posts
