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1881  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Faucet updated on: June 14, 2013, 08:50:03 PM
Cheers.

quote from the Faucet thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=191553.msg1983573#msg1983573

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NEW! I have added a feature requested from Unthinkingbit, that anyone has a bitcointalk.org forum id could get more devcoins. the details:
1.Your forum account is not Newbie (at least Jr. Member)
2. You promote devtome.com by adding the following line to your signature:
Code:
[url=http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=earn_devcoins_by_writing]Earn Devcoins by Writing[/url]
3. You add the same Devcoin address to your signature too, no matter what format, we just make sure the account is really yours.
4. Fill your member id into the textbox and submit.

After submiting, we first send 50DVCs to you immediately, after about one week, we will check again if you keep the signature, if ok, another 100 DVCs will be sent.

How to find your Member ID of bitcointalk.org: Click PROFILE on the title line, then click "Summary" Under "Profile Info" at the left panel, then you will see several digits in the URL, the digits is your member ID.


Please report any bug direct to me or to the faucet thread, thanks.

I will go for this.  I got the signature line. Now I just have to wait for a new round to start on the faucet before I can officially apply  Wink
1882  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: http://faucet.d.evco.in/ on: June 14, 2013, 08:32:28 PM
The Bitcoin address I used is the one I have on Cryptostocks.  Would it still work to recover those DVCs?

Don't think so because Cryptostocks doesn't allow you to export your private key, that I know of at least.

Bummer... but at least it is only 5 DVC.  One of these days I will need to figure out how to really work with clients and private keys.  In the mean time I need to double check the receiving address before hitting the send or submit button, especially when there's more value on the line.
1883  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [GIVEAWAY] DVC Faucet:Get 5 FREE Devcoin! and additional 20 DVCs! 150 more DVCs! on: June 14, 2013, 06:16:00 PM
Sure, I will take the free Devcoins Smiley  my addy is in my signature.
1884  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Aegis - Official DevCoin Thread on: June 14, 2013, 05:43:46 PM
How about the equivalent of Coinbase for Devcoins?  I would totally use it!

I recommend trying to stop double posting. just a recommendation. But coinbase for devcoin would be awesome. If I could figure out what kind of payment gateway they have, and the transfer process from Bitcoin to USD in bank, I'd set one up for devcoin.

How was I double posting?  I apologize if I did something wrong. It wasn't intentional.

I understand you didn't understand. Simply, wait for a response before posting again. Scroll up to your last post, there are two of your posts side by side. Try to avoid that.

OK, I see what you mean. 
1885  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Aegis - Official DevCoin Thread on: June 14, 2013, 05:05:07 PM
How about the equivalent of Coinbase for Devcoins?  I would totally use it!

I recommend trying to stop double posting. just a recommendation. But coinbase for devcoin would be awesome. If I could figure out what kind of payment gateway they have, and the transfer process from Bitcoin to USD in bank, I'd set one up for devcoin.

How was I double posting?  I apologize if I did something wrong. It wasn't intentional.
1886  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Aegis - Official DevCoin Thread on: June 14, 2013, 04:48:08 PM
I don't understand the technical security stuff either right now, which is why I am willing to pay some in the way of reasonable fees to have that taken care of for me.
1887  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Aegis - Official DevCoin Thread on: June 14, 2013, 04:43:37 PM
How about the equivalent of Coinbase for Devcoins?  I would totally use it!
1888  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Aegis - Official DevCoin Thread on: June 14, 2013, 04:25:53 PM
Question for the experts:

I was wondering what is the safest way to store your dvc.

Is it a pc wallet?
Is it vircurex? (?!?) with all its ups and downs
Is it devda? (?!?) if a few days ago you were not at home checking your wallet, you would come back without wallet at all.

The security issue is still a major mental obstacle for everyone approaching this world.



I have this same question.  I am still reading this thread so it may already be answered.  I just wanted to not have to look for this post again.
1889  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: http://faucet.d.evco.in/ on: June 14, 2013, 02:58:29 PM
The Bitcoin address I used is the one I have on Cryptostocks.  Would it still work to recover those DVCs?
1890  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: http://faucet.d.evco.in/ on: June 14, 2013, 02:56:50 AM
A random question:  I'm pretty sure on one of the rounds I entered one of my BTC addresses instead of my DVC address.  I guess I was subconsciously hoping the five DVC would miraculously turn into five BTC (LOL!)

So... where are those devcoins now?  In general, what happens to cryptocoins that get sent to an address for another cryptocoin?

I'm not too concerned about recovering five DVC.  I'm more curious than anything.  
1891  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: June 12, 2013, 06:32:12 PM
My impression of DeVCoin prices was that they seemed to go in cycles.

Dumpers dump the prices down below 100,  sometimes far below 100, allowing buyers to buy up lots and lots dirt cheap.

The dumpers seemed to eventually run out of steam, and buyers would start to arrive, maybe having heard they can buy them cheap.

it is possible that it is not sheer impatience that keeps both buyers and sellers from placing an offer and waiting days or even weeks for it to be taken, it might partly be all the scare stories saying never leave money on an exchange. Whatever the reason, the big buyers and dumpers seem to just place their order almost blindly, just hey sell so many I don't care about the price I am a dumper and I need out of here in five minutes anyway so am not about to quibble about the price, or hey I heard cryptocoins might be going up so just give me however many i can buy for this amount of money.

The price goes up over 200, sometimes even over 300. VladVlad even seemed to have claimed to have bought for over 400, but maybe he wasn't talking about satoshis, maybe he was talking DVC/USD not DVC/BTC.

So the people who bought coins dirt cheap get to sell a bunch of them for double or more than double what they paid for them.

The price is high, word gets around, dumpers start checking whether they happen to have more coins to dump, maybe from merged mining or from shares.

The price gets dumped down to 100 or so or less, maybe significantly less, and the investors stock up on dirt cheap coins again.

There was one single day a month or more ago when I sold 100 million devcoins, bought them all back later the same day, took 100 bitcoins home and still had both devcoins and bitcoins on the exchange continuing to do market-making.

Right now they are dirt cheap again so much so that I am low on bitcoins to buy them with, but that is okay because every possible price from one satoshi all the way up to whatever price the dumpers have dumped it down to has offers of mine sitting there waiting for them.

I would like to pile more bitcoin there though so I can have many more offering to buy at one satoshi than at two, which in turn has more waiting to buy than I have sitting at three and so on.

I don't bother to drive the price up much by constantly offering more than whoever momentarily offers more than me because on the sell side I am selling only ten or so satoshis higher then the current high buy, so the farther I lag below the high buy the more spread I have between my own highest buy offer and my own lowest sell offer.

i have sell offers too at every possible price from whatever my lowest price in satoshis is all the way up some distance abot 300 satoshis. i'd like to stockpile more devcoins up in those higher numbers but can't as much as I'd like because i have to keep making actual sales in order to replenish my bitcoins to buy with.

But it has regularly happened that I look one day and find someone bought the price back up over 200, whereupon my having offers all the way up pays off nicely.

Really the market is still horribly thin. If you want to buy a hundred million devcoins you'll find the price is pretty high. If you want to sell 100 million other than the way i did (waiting for someone to pay top dollar for them) you'd clean out all my buy offers because i don't have them bunched up down at 5, 4, 3, 2 and 1 satoshi yet to pick me up thirty to fifty million or more at a satoshi each...

Is there some actual reason for all this FUDdy expectiona/alarmism that seems to think these regular cycles are not still happing, with right now being just another of the regular recurring buying opportunities inbetween the regularly recurring chances to sell for 200+ satoshis per devcoin?

-MarkM-


Thanks for this info and insight.  It is very helpful to someone who is new to Devcoin.  I've been watching the exchange for a couple weeks now trying to detect patterns such as this one but obviously not enough time has gone by for me to see much beyond the current downward trend in Devcoins.  Nice to know that the value really does go up again and is cyclical.  When you know what to expect it's not so scary  Smiley
1892  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: June 12, 2013, 06:25:23 PM
One of the writers on devtome, Wiser, posted this article outlining their experience and ideas for the project. I think it's definitely worth a read and some thinking through:  http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=on_writing_and_market_forces

I just realized I need to add a section about number of words rewarded per month.  I will post it once I do.

Also, I know I am missing details about how shares are divided up.  If anyone has an article which clarifies that and is more accurate, please pm me and I will link to it  Smiley

I think I have a solution to determine a pay structure. We should go with a meritocracy based around a badge system. These badges would act as rank and determine how much each writer gets paid.

This way you would have granularity, merit, reward for quality, and reward for work. This badge system could also apply to programmers, musicians, or anything else. In order to get a basic level badge an individual would have to pass an exam. This exam should cost some coins and this would prevent spammers. The exam process would make it easier for Fuzzybear or whomever to review works. Perhaps eventually let random community members or even pay individuals to review them. The initial badge would declare that the individual meets the minimum qualification to be recognized as a writer, a programmer, or whatever.

Then over time reward with different higher level badges. These different badges will act as rank and as long as the writer continues to write their pay grade will be a bit higher based on the quality of their previous work as recognized by their badge. There should be different sorts of badges passed around throughout the community which recognize different kinds of competency.

Integrity for example is very valuable no matter if you're a writer, programmer or anything else and a lot of us would rather see the rewards go to community members with proven integrity. This would act similar to ebay or amazon where people maintain a good reputation and can get business but scammers and cheats don't. The better the reputation and integrity of the artist, developer, etc, the greater the portion of shares they should get.

This would allow for the community to reward qualities not just of the work itself, but of the author or developer themselves and factor that into how much they get paid. For instance if Fin Shaggy is known to be a man of honor and integrity then he eventually will receive a badge and that badge will allow him to be recognized for that in pay rank. If Fin Shaggy is also known to be very competent at writing then he could get a badge for that and be recognized for that and get the $50 per share rate but the next person who does not have that badge or who isn't known as being a very competent writer, they'll have to focus more on earning the badge than on just pumping out low quality content. This will force them to actually care about the quality of their work for the badge.

The badge should be difficult to revoke if it's an integrity badge. If it's a competency badge then it should be permanent for writers because if a writer proves they can produce a good piece of art work or software that should be enough. The next step would be to create ranks which are even higher than badges which I'll call medals. Give the medals out to the truly exceptional people. It works very well in sports such as professional boxing or basketball where the champions and gold medalists are recognized as being the best and get the sponsorships.

This way established writers with good reputations for producing quality work will have badges, medals, and other qualifications and these should determine the worth of their shares. This way it's not marketing, it's not word count, it's not equally distributed like communism,  it's merit and competency and these badges could stay with the developer no matter what coin they use in the future. If Ethicoin, Devcoin, Bitcoin, Litecoin or Futurecoin becomes popular these badges will still have established the merit and rank and would persist throughout all of that.

This way I'll immediately know which among you are talented at whatever, which among you are knowledgeable or skilled, and which among you are honorable.

Here's the section I added to my article:  I added a section to my above article dealing with capping the number of shares per writer per month.  

Here it is:  http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=on_writing_and_market_forces&#capping_the_number_of_shares_per_round

I like what LuckyBit wrote about badges and medals--it has a lot of merit and should be considered in light of the larger vision of Devcoin and Devtome.  LuckyBit, do you write for Devtome?  If so, maybe you could put the above in an article and I can add a link to it in my article.  If you get an article on the Devtome, please PM me and I'll link to it.
1893  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: June 12, 2013, 02:18:02 PM
One of the writers on devtome, Wiser, posted this article outlining their experience and ideas for the project. I think it's definitely worth a read and some thinking through:  http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=on_writing_and_market_forces

I just realized I need to add a section about number of words rewarded per month.  I will post it once I do.

Also, I know I am missing details about how shares are divided up.  If anyone has an article which clarifies that and is more accurate, please pm me and I will link to it  Smiley
1894  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Devcoin on: June 12, 2013, 01:00:56 AM
Owsley,

For YOU, Devcoin and the Devtome are the biggest scams since Ponzi himself.  So you should ABSOLUTELY stay away from them (and this thread).

The REST of us will make the decision to ignore your posts.  Does the "Report to moderator" button do anything magic?
1895  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: http://faucet.d.evco.in/ on: June 11, 2013, 03:47:39 AM
I'd put in my address on round 80.  My address for Devcoin is 1LpoMowMPEVWk2LaJUdAUNaK7gBDRA1r7F

On an unrelated note, how do you manage to have identical addresses for BTC and Devcoin?

you could export private key of btc and import into dvc client or vice versa.

The faucet appears to be broken again.  Round 87 is showing 41 entries.

I've just found and resolved a bug which caused this issue, there will be no such delay happen.

Thanks for your help of reporting bugs, I just send you 100DVCs.

The bit about exporting and importing private keys is over my head right now, but hopefully It will make more sense as I learn more...

Thanks for the extra DVCs.  I'm happy to help, and glad you got that bug fixed :-)
1896  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: http://faucet.d.evco.in/ on: June 10, 2013, 02:47:37 PM
The faucet appears to be broken again.  Round 87 is showing 41 entries.
1897  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / How do you back up a Devcoin wallet? on: June 09, 2013, 03:22:58 AM
I am using the wallet called Bitcoin version 0.3.24-beta as my Devcoin wallet.  Even though it says "Bitcoin" it does work for Devcoins.  I can't find any internal instructions for backing up this wallet, no options for exporting or importing a file.  I'm writing for the Devtome and am a bit concerned about the possibility of having a hard drive crash or something right *after* receiving payment of several million Devcoins, so I thought it would be smart to back up my wallet in some way that would be restorable.  But... can't figure out how to do that.

Anyone here know how to back up such a wallet?  The wallet I'm using is one of the ones recommended on the Devtome.

I also have a wallet from devda.ch (web-based).  Aside from the fact that it won't take generation coins (the reason I have the other wallet), can anyone who's used these wallets tell me how good they are in terms of security and reliability?  If I were to transfer all my Devcoins to my devda.ch wallet, that would make it possible for me to access my wallet from any computer, making backing up my own client less crucial.  But... is it a safe, reputable wallet?  Would you trust it?  Are there any other web based Devcoin wallets that are trustworthy?  I'd *love* it if there were an equivalent of Coinbase for Devcoins--down to being able to buy/sell small amounts with USD--so if there is, please, please, please tell me about it.
1898  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: http://faucet.d.evco.in/ on: June 07, 2013, 01:50:18 PM
I'd put in my address on round 80.  My address for Devcoin is 1LpoMowMPEVWk2LaJUdAUNaK7gBDRA1r7F

On an unrelated note, how do you manage to have identical addresses for BTC and Devcoin?
1899  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / http://faucet.d.evco.in/ on: June 07, 2013, 01:45:07 AM
Just wondering if anyone happens to know how many people need to input an address before round 80 will be considered full.  It still says 30 is the number of contributions needed per round, but that round is currently at 48.

I'm referring to this faucet:  http://faucet.d.evco.in/
1900  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What's the future like for Devcoin on: June 06, 2013, 09:44:18 PM
The no cap part worries me.  So I can earn Devcoins by writing and then trade them for Bitcoin.  Each time there's a payout to writers, and they all flood the exchange trying to trade them for Bitcoins, won't the value of Devcoins just plummet?  Or at the very least, steadily decline in value with predictable falls right around the time the Devtome pays out?
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