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1881  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence on: November 16, 2022, 09:16:39 AM

It's safe to say that Al Haymon and Errol Spence will remain silent until the issue cools down and for me, there's no need for them to talk because our questions are already answered by Crawford's statement. No need to know Errol's or Al's side because I don't think that Crawford is lying, it's clear that he's the victim and wasted his time going back and forth with the hopes that they will give him that fight.

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Crawford recognized that he can't make the fight with Bob, and so he decided not to sign the contract. And yet why the fight didn't still happen?

That's what we thought but it seems that there's another stumbling block because the fight became impossible to happen. If you ask me why, my answer would be that Spence and Al is afraid of what the current Crawford can do. Spence's chances is not that big against the prime Crawford, that's why they can't risk to materialize the fight as of now.

And that is why there are a lot of speculations as to why the fight didn't happen.

But then again, as fans we know that their should be no more issues, but it seems that Al Haymon is a control freak and wanted to have the majority of the money in the table.

Who knows, if Spence is afraid, if that is the case then his legacy will be tainted because of fight not happening.

That's the thing that we cannot verify because both of them seems to be covering for each other and Spence cannot talk without Al, but it is clear that either one of them is afraid of Crawford and who knows what he could do, they just cannot stand the risk to scathe Errol Spence's career.

Spence can run away from Crawford for now, but he cannot do that forever and if Crawford will leave the industry without having the fight, Spence will end up facing the #1 contender Jaron Ennis and that's riskier than the old Crawford.
But what if Spence is seeking for that 'danger'? Spence got the skills. Being young could give him a drive or a reason to go whatever comes to his mind especially if it is for the betterment of his career. It is hard to also tell whether the management of Spence is afraid of Crawford given that Spence has his own advantages. Probably there's more to that such as engaging to a more 'noisy' match up unless there's a personal goals on either Spence and Crawford's end. We have seen 'beef' before and these two didn't had it. It is just us, the fans, who are demanding for this one and if this thing won't happen, I guess the only thing we could do is to wait for their fate to go head to head, one day.

If I'm not mistaken, they started their beef with they move to the same division, and not just because fans are clamouring for their fight. They are the 2 best boxers in the welterweight so sooner or later they will cross their path. And again, if my memory serves me right, they have been calling each other for a fight. And when Crawford got the chance when he bolted out from To Rank so chase his dream fight, it wasn't meant to be this year.
1882  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cash out or wait till the end on: November 16, 2022, 01:57:44 AM
So what would you would advise as a gambler? is it better to collect the cash out or wait for the full cash

It is a personal decision. In my case I prefer cash out. I am aware that luck is difficult to have, it is normal to lose and even more so if we think in the long term. When I have a strike of luck I prefer to cash out at that moment and I'll come back another day. I know people that after a jackpot continued playing and lost everything. I don't want that for me. I call it a day and withdraw the money.

Yes, same here, I'm thinking of cashing it out before the last game.

It's already big money screaming in front of you, so why not take it as you made a good returns from your small bet and turning it to X amount. Risk means winning big, but at the same time, you can lose as well.And so it's better to call it a day and quit and withdraw and play the next day.
1883  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3 on: November 14, 2022, 01:46:39 AM
Majority is in favor with Casimero because he is much well know compare to Akaho but its really dangerous for him to belittle his opponent since he is inactive for so many days and this might give effect to his fighting style and Akaho will dominate him. I consider this as a good match up between them since whoever wins for sure they can bring good honors and maybe they could get more bigger fight after this match.

Not just popularity but it's obvious that Casimero has all the advantages he has in this fight.

Akaho is not even considered a boxer that can harm a Casimero-level performance for let's say Casimero will be 100% healthy in that fight.

We are not underestimating Akaho but just saying the closest possibility that can happen in this match.

And it was an obvious easy pick for Casimero and his team, entering a new weight class, they should get a fighter that is tough but not going to be a big risk for them. And in paper Akaho beat a lot of PH boxers and maybe it was a good story that he will be facing another Filipino but this time though, it's world class.

So maybe Akaho thinks that Casimero will be his next victim, but this Pinoy is different, he has been a world champion.
And he can knock people with just one punch. And yes, all advantage goes to Casimero here so he should be good in this fight.
1884  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Crypto.com in trouble? on: November 14, 2022, 01:23:42 AM
I have been investing in Crypto.com , now known as Cronos, since March this year.

I see it has been falling in the last 24 hours as many are panicking it could be one of the next exchanges in trouble.

I have just tried to deposit some money onto my crypto.com account and it has left my bank but not reached my account and this was over half an hour ago now, it usually reaches my account in a few minutes.

Is there currently a problem with deposits??

What does everyone think about crypto.com is it in trouble or should be ok?

Really hard to speculate at this point as the market, market is on a shambles right now, everyone is very fearful, speculating as who is going to be next.

There's even a tweet about Binance halting withdrawals and for sure it has cause panic again in the market.

So by now, hard to give financial advise mate, but the only one that can answer to your question is crypto.com, maybe they are slowing down the withdrawals to not cause panic in a very volatile market that we are in in the last week.
1885  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Dmitry Bivol vs Zurdo Ramirez on: November 13, 2022, 09:24:48 AM
Ok, but I think it will be suicide for him to make 168 lbs and just 'bow' down on the pressures from Canelo's camp for them to have the fight in super middleweight.
This is not a big deal. He can do it. If Canelo can go on peak so he can also do and easily beat him. By the way this will be more difficult for him but there is the chance and he has ability too.

If anyone is going from low to heavy so he can easily can achieve the goal. Smiley

It's a make or break for Bivol, if he is going for greatness,

a, beat Canelo as his best weight, 168 lbs and took his belt
b, Bivol inserting himself into the picture, p4p list
c, Canelo will be in lose-lose situation, if he win and beat Bivol, his critics will say that he weight-drain Bivol to super middleweight.

So it's up to Bivol at this point, 168 lbs or 175 lbs, he will surely looking for greatness in his career.
1886  Economy / Speculation / Re: How is everyone doing? on: November 12, 2022, 05:05:25 AM
We cannot just feel bad about them because it was also their fault on why they are experiencing this kind of problems. And also we shouldn't worry about the future of bnb or btc because FTX is only one exchange and even if it collapsed, we still have plenty of them. New crypto exchanges are also emerging from time to time. Sure thing that negative news like this might affect cryptos value's but that was only for temporary. Sooner or later people will go back in cryptos again.
You're right, we don't have to worry about this case due to the fact that it only happened to the internal FTX case but because of the panic that caused the market to fall to its lowest point in this period but anyway we can see that FTX is still working on fixing this issue but we will review continued development progress of FTX. Despite market crashes, we have experience monitoring the market every year and proven history of the crypto market shows that if the price reaches its lowest point it will have the opportunity to reach a new ATH, hoping that dream will happen in the future.

And everything is connected tough, Bitcoin<-->altcoin market. This is another classic example, FTX crashed, affected the altcoin and then spill over the panic to Bitcoin market.

Yes, we should monitor the market, but I don't think we need to panic or what, or sell in a lost. We should have this ability to just relax, let everything simmer down a bit, the price is fluctuating meaning there is also a constant buying and selling. So 50/50, others panic, but there are smart investors taking advantage of the situation.
1887  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Not your key not your coins is real, not just quoted. on: November 12, 2022, 04:28:37 AM
There are already wallets where you can keep the private key with free and open source, I don't know why they don't think that. I don't know why they believe the exchange than himself?
The reason some people leave their coins on exchanges is because they are ignorant. Some people do not know the differences, all they know is that they want to buy and hold some bitcoin or any other crypto. Some people will even tell you that Binance is a wallet.


That's not the reason, there are different reasons, my friends also lost a lot of money from the FTX crash, they are merchants, buying and selling, exchanging P2P on FTX. All are aware that leaving money on FTX or binance is like depositing money in a bank, risk is always lurking, but their job, their profit is from there, so they have to accept the risk and continue to work.

I would agree on the P2P exchange scenario, if I'm not mistaken, they have to like put $1000 as collateral when they do P2P trading. And so with the collapse, their capital + their collateral is gone. And so that is the risk that businesses has to take.

It's really unexpected though, no one really knows that this will happen and I will say majority has been caught off guard resulting to them not withdrawing their money on that exchange on time.
1888  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Casimero vs Akaho - December 3 on: November 12, 2022, 03:37:02 AM
Poll would not lie, Casimero got 96.3% of the total votes here, so it's very obvious that most of us here believe that Casimero will win. Actually, I don't believe that when a boxer is inactive he will not be the same, because if a boxer that is inactive were active in the gym practicing, there should be no changes on his conditioning, Casimero was only inactive in professional sports but I'm pretty sure he keeps himself in shape all the time.

Maybe the poll was influenced by the fact that many users who read this thread were compatriots of Casimero like myself but in reality, though Quadro Alas has the advantage in this fight though the odds are not released yet but there's a big chance that Casimero would be the huge favorite in this fight.

Casimero is out of the ring for quite some time now so ring rust might be an issue but considering that this is a comeback fight and a must-win for him, he will do whatever it takes to take the W at the end of 12 rounds if this would go the distance.
Whether Casimero would be the favorite or not then people cant really just easily tell that this is a walk in the park kind of fight for him, if we do look out on statistics of Akaho then he's more far experienced
than with Casimero but if you do look up on its history of fights then it is mostly done on his local. I havent seen this guy on how he fights and i might be considering on watching up some replays
and vids in relation to this and do make out some comparison and tell up on how these fighters or boxers do really fight or simply how good they are on technical plus
that endurance and of course in overall power.

Not sure if we can call this a walk in the park, but probably more of a big test for Casimero in this weight that's why they choose a opponent like Akaho.

A very durable and experience fighter and maybe there could be ring rust for Casimero and Akaho could take advantage of it and make this fight very exciting for us. But Casimero's punching power will be the equalizer here and once Akaho gets tired, John Riel will look for a knock out or maybe a decision win for him.
1889  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 12, 2022, 03:21:44 AM
Speaking of the WBC convention,

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As the WBC convention continues to move forward, a slew of bouts was recently ordered. Amongst them, a WBC title eliminator between Stevenson and Isaac Cruz was officially penciled in.

https://www.boxingscene.com/shakur-stevenson-welcomes-isaac-cruz-title-eliminator-i-dont-duck-dodge-anybody--170355d

I think this is a great fight for Shakur if he step up to 135 lbs, Pitbull is no pushover, the pressure and the power, let's see how Shakur will cover that one. He want's to fight Devin Haney but I guess he needs to go in line. I think Loma will have the first crack, but then again the problem with Shakur vs Cruz might be their promotions and network ties. Hopefully the WBC could be their middle main so that this title eliminator will happen next year.

Yes, Stevenson vs Cruz will be a great matchup. Cruz almost upset or at least gave Tank Davis a difficult fight and others say that maybe Cruz won it. And Tank said that Isaac head is very tough, LOL.

So Stevenson will be tested here, he might show his defensive prowess and maybe play along.

But Isaac is all guts and glory and for sure he wouldn't back down and will be the aggressor in this fight. That is if this fight can be made without any hitch.
1890  Economy / Speculation / Re: How fast will Bitcoin fall down? on: November 11, 2022, 07:55:43 AM
I agree that the whole market depends on the movement of bitcoin but if any of the top altcoins drop, it will cause a huge panic in the market and bitcoin cannot avoid the impact. Although bitcoin is king, it should not be denied that bitcoin is not affected, markets are closely linked. Bitcoin has dropped to $16k within 2 days and it could be even worse, there are rumors that FTX is filing for bankruptcy and if it is true, it will entail the death of FTT, the entire Solana ecosystem then we should see bitcoin fall even more this month or december.
This is a huge fallout from the war between Binance and FTX, I don't think it's because FTT is down but because things like this can cause traders to panic. As a result, the panic has caused bitcoin price to hit its lowest level in the past year post ATH on November 10, 2021. $15.5K is the current low, but it will be very possible to hit another low if this chaos and panic continues.

I don't know, but it might end soon and bitcoin will find plenty of strength and other support to recover. But I believe, market competition between coin will not have much effect on the price of bitcoin.
I think it is possible we are going to see a further reduction in the price of bitcoin, this year has been particularly bad with the complete collapse of important coins and now this problem with the FTX exchange is making things even worse.

So even if during the previous 24 hours we saw a recovery, the price is going down once again as I doubt the speculators are going to let go of this opportunity to push the price downward when a great deal of traders and investors are in complete panic because of what it is happening right now in the market.

Just show how volatile the market is, and I think it depend on what timezone you are.

Asia seems to be buying if I'm not mistaken, but when it is sunset already, and the other side, North America is waking up, I observed some selling.

So it went as high as $18k Asia time, and now it goes down hard again to $17,100 but seems to be bouncing back around $17,300. So hopefully we will see another recovery, at least it will be around $18k. The CPI report seems to be positive and hopefully it will be enough to push the market again this month.
1891  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Manny Pacquiao vs. DK Yoo on: November 11, 2022, 07:31:13 AM
It is normal to see Manny Pacquiao getting slower because he is already past his prime but even though he lost some speed, he is still quick on his feet.

Either way, if he's slow now or not, it doesn't matter on this exhibition match as they will just perform for entertainment. Speed or anything is not a factor since the output and result of this fight are already scripted at the beginning.

No way Manny Pacquiao will participate in exhibition matches that terms will be the same way as sanctioned real fights. If that's the case, then he should just comeback from retirement and continue his legacy.

Yes, but as fans, we are still in awe with Manny during his prime, that speed of his and the power and maybe there are still fans wanting to see the old Manny. But as you have said, this is a exhibition match, he could show his speed or not, but it doesn't matter. We should be entertain already just to see Manny again in the ring even if it is again a Youtuber that we know he can beat easily.

But let's see if this is scripted just like the rest of the exhibition matches that we have seen so far.
1892  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman on: November 11, 2022, 07:13:08 AM


As far as Crawford vs Spence, not going to happen this year.

Not sure though if I will be excited with this fight, but I will say could be one of the best setup fight next year in the Welterweight.

If these two, Crawford and Spence cannot give the boxing community the fight that they want and they keep failing to unite the welterweight title then these two should get out of the division, both them should go up, and see if they can beat the competition in that division because there are tougher fighters and champions in the Charlo brothers in the super welterweight.

I think that is the plan by both, maybe just one more fight in the welterweight and then go up in 154 lbs. However, they are still in the collision course there, we have Charlo as the unified champion, but it will be interesting now if both will move up.

And i guess if this is mandated by the world governing body that Spence is holding the belt, he can't refuse it unless he wants to abandon the belt and not fight his mandatory. But in this case, it's also a PBC fighter to easy to made.
1893  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: November 11, 2022, 12:04:15 AM
Sorry to be the bearer of a bad news, I know that we are all excited and inclined that whoever wins in Beterbiev-Yarde fight will face Dmitry Bivol next for the undisputed title fight.

But, it seems that a unification fight in the light-heavyweight division won't happen anytime sooner because the WBC do have another plan to whoever will win in Beterbiev-Yarde fight.

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At the WBC’s 60th annual convention in Acapulco, Mexico, on Tuesday, they announced that the winner of Artur Beterbiev vs Anthony Yarde would be ordered to fight number one contender, Callum Smith.
https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1241376/wbc-winner-artur-beterbiev-vs-anthony-yarde-ordered-fight-callum-smith/

But here's an another twist! Before Anthony Yarde will get his title shot against Artur Beterbiev next year, he should first face another contender named Stefani Koykov on a 10-round bout this coming November 19, this year. Surely, I didn't expected that!

That is a bummer of news, but all we have to do is wait eagerly for it to happen for me Dmitry Bivol VS Artur Beterbiev is one big fight many fans are eagerly waiting and they should not let that slip, this is going to be one big fight many will surely watch and a big income to take when both fighter clash, both undefeated and both have a style that could surely win over the other, but who is the more technical and more superior inside the ring, there are many questions that are why it should be answered inside the ring,

Yes, all we can do now is to wait for that unification, maybe 3rd quarter next year because Beterbiev is scheduled to fight Yarde January 2023. That said, Bivol will be vacated for quite some time, so he might have his own title defense again while waiting for the winner of Beterbiev-Yarde fight. And I just want to reiterate that Beterbiev is not on his prime anymore and will be turning 38 this coming January, so I dearly hope that we will see a unification fight much sooner without any delay.

And that injury could be a sign that he might be slipping already, as his body is not taking that beating at least.

But let's see, I think it will favor Yarde even more if he has like a tune up fight first before taking on Beterviev. He just have to win that fight that's it and then set up the biggest paycheck of his career.

However, the fight that we all have been waiting is Bivol vs Beterviev, but it might not happen as usual because of boxing politics.
1894  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: CPI DATA INCOMING on: November 10, 2022, 11:37:02 AM
Probably this could be the last wave, but for this year only.

Obviously, there will still be something that can affect the market negatively, whether it's FUD, or some exchange closing or some other news of hacks. The best thing for us is to just ride it out in the next twelve months.

I know it's long and hard and deliberate, but that's how we are going to survived this bear market.
1895  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 on: November 10, 2022, 11:17:29 AM

Butler's chance of winning is really slim and if there's some gambler who will take his ML, then upset
happen that's really decent, but the chance is really slim for that to happen as we all see the bookies
side in terms of placing the odds.

Of course, with a small amount of money, that's already enough just to have fun watching the game. With the attractive odds, one would be tempted to put a bet but of course, does not expect much as we know how good Inoue is, and it's the biggest fight of his career as he will become an undisputed champion if he would succeed.

Well yes, a chance is still a chance even if it's just too slim. The ML on Butler's favor is more than decent and I won't be surprised if there's somebody out there who gambled few bucks on Butler. But for us who doesn't want the ML, might as well wait for the other options to option like KO and range.

What I'm curious about is how would Inoue finish this fight, surely there's a pressure that this fight should be more easy because he even managed to defeat Donaire in mere 2 rounds.

I don't think that Inoue will have to think about knocking out Butler early, if it will come then definitely he will go for it. But it's better not to force it as you can make a huge mistake that could prove fatal on Inoue.

So just play the usual, don't pressure your self, go with your plan and strategy. And for sure, if the knock out is there, he can definitely score it as he has one of the most devastating power not just in Bantamweight, but in any other weight class. But just like the rest of you guys, I'm not going to bet on the ML for Inoue.
1896  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Errol Spence vs Keith Thurman on: November 10, 2022, 10:47:09 AM
Compare to Crawford's opponent Avanesyan, Thurman is a good pick but not a risky one for Spence, Spence will win here but of course, Thurman is going to give him a hard time, Thurman is still good based on what I see on his latest fight he still has it, but skill and power wise, Spence will overpower him, we all expect to see Crawford and Spence winning their respective fights there are no fighters in the welterweight that can match up these two fighters but unfortunately, both fighters don't want to part with their undefeated records.

Yeah, having Thurman in your resume is good, and Spence can claim that he cleared the division, the best of them, Danny Garcia, Ugas, Porter and now Thurman. But as others said, Thurman is not in shape and maybe he is no longer in his prime. But since he is the mandatory then Crawford will have to give him a chance to his belt.

As far as Crawford vs Spence, not going to happen this year.

Not sure though if I will be excited with this fight, but I will say could be one of the best setup fight next year in the Welterweight.
1897  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: We Feel All The Emotions When We Gamble on: November 10, 2022, 10:23:34 AM
When we gamble we feel all the emotions, like when we feel excited when we are chasing our losses, feeling happy when we won a big amount, feeling depressed when we lose and we feel frustrated when what we expected to happen did not materialize, this is one of the reasons why we cannot stop gambling because we feel all the emotions.

Do you agree that we cannot stop gambling because it completed all our emotions and do you have other feelings when you gamble.

Partly yes, gambling has played our emotions to the maximum, give us that satisfaction, but when we lose, we want to recover and make a comeback. And that usually happens, so it's really hard to control and then we become addicted to it.

That's why most of the time it's really hard to quit, as we want to get that feeling again, specially if we win big. We want to experience that same feeling and again. And so if we want to quit gambling, it's going to be a fight inside of us and it's not going to be easy.
1898  Economy / Speculation / Re: I hope this Bitcoin dip won't be deeper? on: November 10, 2022, 10:07:04 AM
Based on recent trend in Bitcoin, this is the worst year in crypto history and the year is not over yet. I was talking to a friend this morning concerning the current crypto trend and guess what? This dude is loosing hope already.

And I don't even know how to encourage myself to invest more in Bitcoin, is it right for me to go ahead and buy the dip ?

Every bear market is worst for bitcoin and crypto, and this is not an exception. And if you look at it's past history, you can see that we can recover and bounce back from this crypto winter or whatever others call it.

This is just part of the cycle and we can call it normal. Not sure how long you guys have been in the market. But for those who have seen bear market, this is not something that you lose hope. On the contrary, this is the time wherein you accumulate bitcoin because they are very cheap.
1899  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence on: November 10, 2022, 12:25:35 AM
I think it's very clear now as who duck who, I think that Spence wanted to fight Crawford, but it is Al Haymon that is making it hard for this fight and for sure they really wanted to fuck up Crawford by not offering any guaranteed price in his pocket.

Even Oscar Dela Hoya echo the sentiment of Crawford that indeed, it's hard to negotiate with Haymon and all they wanted is that they have all the advantage in the table. That is not supposed a negotiation should look like.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/11/4/23440631/oscar-de-la-hoya-threatens-to-expose-al-haymon-for-blocking-big-fights-boxing-news-2022
1900  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Who Will buy Binance? 🤔 on: November 09, 2022, 11:51:07 AM
Not sure who is going to buy Binance, but you have to think about it, will they go insolvent? I mean they are the biggest exchange right now and there are a lot of investment that CZ does, so I doubt that it will go bust in the future.

Just look at what they did, they just buy out FTX, their competitor. And besides, CZ seems to be a good businessman as well. So no doubt that he will do everything in his power to let his Binance and BNB afloat and on top of the food chain in this crypto market.
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