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1941  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casino bonus is it worth it? on: December 27, 2022, 11:12:50 AM
Welcome bonuses not always effective how to make many gambler interested for active on gambling platform and get higher traffic, have been excited way for cheater get welcome bonuses and used it for withdrawing or the are have small wager before withdrawing and make another account again. I think not matter with welcome bonus but have adopted with KYC procedure until have wager maximum until $2,000 for ability withdrawing from welcome bonuses.
Not good ideas when adopting welcome bonuses for earn higher traffic and many people registering trough have welcome bonuses, after event ended actually traffic of gambling platform will drastically drop from gambler.

the welcome bonus even though it is not 100% effective but it will definitely be 50% effective, that means not all gamblers run away when they get a welcome bonus, many of these gamblers will be loyal to the gambling site. I also really agree with your suggestion, that is to make a minimum withdrawal for winning gamblers using the welcome bonus so that there are no get-run tricks.

I would much prefer to gamble in an online casino that has been proven to be genuine than an online casino that is relatively new but with generous bonuses.

Remember that security is the number one key in gambling. Even if another gambling website offers more bonuses, always prioritize those gambling websites that have been around for years for maximum security on your funds.

New gambling sites have a still high risk of bugs, I also won't have too much interest in playing there but we have to see the team behind the online casino, if it's managed by a professional team then I'm sure their security will be very good.
1942  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading With Borrowed Funds!!! on: December 27, 2022, 09:24:27 AM
It is true that some people have become rich through crypto trading in the recent times. But considering the high risk involved in trading, do you think it's proper/wise to trade with borrowed funds as your capital irrespective of your trading experience?

making a profit from trading is not an easy matter, it takes confidence - skill and also resilience in order to be able to survive amidst the onslaught of FUD that continues to circulate in the market. and in the case of making a loan for trading capital - it's actually just the fastest way to try to make a profit from the market, a lot of traders have tried that and they managed to make a profit and even returned their loan.

It was not really a good start in trading using funds not from your own pocket but from others (borrowed money). It was not advisable but also, but I don't make such an excuse not to take risks and borrow money for as long as we can pay for it on the deadline. It is just like starting a business with borrowed money but as I've said, trading is too risky and has no assurance for returns, especially for beginners that is why I don't encourage doing it, yet I'd never stop them.

I am also like you, I will not forbid people from making borrowed money as trading capital even though it is risky because if the debt is managed properly, it will benefit the borrower. I once borrowed money from my mother to buy bitcoin, then when the value went up 25% I immediately sold it and returned the capital I borrowed from my mother. maybe this is a small part of my story that succeeded in managing borrowed money to make profits while trading, maybe there is something more inspiring.
1943  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: December 27, 2022, 08:42:51 AM
As the defending champions so much is expected from them in the Champions league this season. Their success in the Champions league this season will depend on how much resistance they can show against any other opponent in the tournament this season begining from beating Liverpool in the next knockout round. This is a difficult task for Real Madrid and facing Liverpool for the third time I'm sure Liverpool will be looking for revenge this time.

I see little chance for Liverpool to be able to win over Real Madrid because Madrid has so far been consistent with their appearance, very different from Liverpool, which until now still has problems with the front and back lines. see how liverpool ended in defeat against man city even though many opportunities were created, it shows that liverpool still has problems.

I think Liverpool will take revenge for their previous defeat and this is an opportunity for Liverpool to meet Real Madrid again in the top 16, even though Real Madrid has the potential to win again but of course stay alert to Liverpool's game which might surprise them in the match

revenge? I also hope they can do that but we have to look at the history that has happened between the two teams,

Madrid has continued to excel in their last 5 matches and the results later I think will not be much different.
1944  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: December 26, 2022, 10:21:42 PM
An important win for arsenal today, they managed to make a comeback on the second half to beat westham,



we can see clearly, arsenal reversed the score to 3-1 in the second half with 2 goals occurring in just 5 minutes, of the 5 shots on target made by arsenal, meaning only 2 were not scored, the rest made it into the west ham net.

with this win they are eight points clear in the lead and if man city lose points against leeds than it will be even better, Arsenal are having the perfect beginning of season keeping arteta seem to be a good decision.

face leeds united later, man city will definitely win easily even though the host for this match is leeds united, haaland is on fire to keep scoring goals.


tomorrow we will see the matches between;
chelsea vs bournemouth and
manu vs n forest

- my choice is of course chelsea and manu.


1945  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: bagaimana nasib nft untuk jangka panjang sebagai tempat berinvestasi? on: December 26, 2022, 10:01:25 PM
Fenomena NFT sama seperti saat Hype batu akik, sifatnya hanya sementara namun efeknya sangat terasa bagi mereka yang terjebak pada Hype.

Itulah makanya saya tidak begitu tertarik dengan NFT meski saat itu ada banyak berita tentang keuntungan yang dapat diambil dari NFT. Kemana token Asix sekarang dan bagaimana nasib mereka yang telah terlanjur membeli token Asix.?

seperti batu akik - bunga anturium - ikan koi yang kan mas (yang pernah hype dan membuat banyak orang terjebak). saya juga termasuk beruntung tidak berinvestasi pada satu pun NFT, melihat bagaimana hancurnya pasar NFT saat ini sungguh membuat saya miris, pasti investor ASIX token, menyesal telah membeli token itu.

Fokus pada sesuatu yang pasti akan membuat peluang kembali ke harga tertinggi lebih pasti daripada mengejar token yang Hype bersifat sementara, masih banyak Altcoin top yang bisa dijadikan Alternatif untuk mencari profit, meski kondisi pasar sedang tidak menentu namun masih besar kemungkinan dapat kembali naik ke harga tertinggi.

"fokus pada hal yang pasti", itu adalah kalimat yang bagus mas. bitcoin - eth - bnb - ltc adalah contoh mata uang kripto yang cocok di jadikan sebagai investasi jangka panjang maupun jangka pendek ketimbang nft atau meme token (karena taruhannya ngeri).  
1946  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who is to blame on: December 26, 2022, 09:45:46 PM
Is the requirement of KYC from online casino the reason that gives birth to online casino getting regulated?

in countries where gambling is legal, gambling there is strictly regulated (not only offline casinos but online casinos too), So you misunderstand that regulated casinos are born because of the KYC requirements imposed by casino developers.

I mean in the past there is no regulation thing pointed to online casino but now all eye are on them for a must regulation if they want to keep their platform alive and functioning.

before online gambling boomed like it is now, the government didn't supervise online casinos because the majority of gamblers didn't play there but over time, that all changed. Gambling is a billion-dollar business, so the government won't let it go easily, the tax money it generates is huge, online gambling has become a trend now.
1947  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why Crypto Marketet Is Dumping Drastically !! on: December 26, 2022, 08:04:58 PM
Crypto Market is dumping because many people who dont understand the crypto concert has come on board !! crypto  was created purposely for decentralize transaction , low fees cost  , and fast transaction . Satoshi invented the concept in 2009 but it take many years before bitcoin became house hold name .. at  the beginning bitcoin was worthless but now look at  how bitcoin is changing the world .

it's not a short time for bitcoin to become the thing that is being discussed as it is today, people make bitcoin based on their needs, some make it an investment - currency - source of income or salary payment.

Now  very new project is creating smart contract just sell ICO to raise many for their  project. Smart Contract has come to help Entrepreneur who has idea but not having enough funds to put their ideas on board. So right now Every Entrepreneur Is using Blockchain opportunity to change the world .
But Investor And Bounty Hunter are misleading the concept of smart contract which is making allot project and their Token Useless .
as an investor You must understand that buying project token is like buying a shares of the project and shares of a project is not one night Profit gain .

ICO maybe a great concept but it's also one of the best ways for scammers to make money, many profits and also get scammed because of ICO so it's good - bad ICO depending on which side you see.

You invest You Hold for the project to become successful .. But selling token at early stage collapse project and draw out investor from the project . Most token and coin are dropped up to 82% down because investor are expecting quick Again !!! Let Hold !!!!!     

hodl the bitcoin is highly recommended but hodl altcoin (I won't say all of them) is highly not recommended especially for ICO tokens that have just appeared, that's the reason why many sell immediately when they get tokens from the distribution of ICO rewards.
1948  Economy / Economics / Re: The poor people with their reasoning on: December 26, 2022, 07:20:05 PM
No matter how hard you try, poor people can be difficult to persuade to accept and invest in bitcoin, according to my crypto knowledge and people's enlightenment. They vehemently criticize whatever you show them or introduce them to. They are the ones who constantly inquire about how you manage your funds in order to live during this economic downturn.

poor people will only find all kinds of reasons to refuse when you say the right thing especially when you mention bitcoin because I have experienced that a few times. for that reason I gave up on them and just let them stay with their poor mindset.

How can we persuade the poor that without making investments and taking risks, they would not succeed in life? If they are looking for a financial breakthrough, they need become involved with anything because good things in life don't just fall into their laps. Life is about taking chances and seizing any opportunity that presents itself.

I never believed that being poor was fate, it all happened when you really had no intention of changing your life. Rich people have strong thoughts that they can change their lives, but poor people have weak minds and believe that their poverty is God's doing. without investing and taking risks, one cannot get rich.
1949  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why are some Post deleted on: December 26, 2022, 06:46:58 PM
I posted something today but it was deleted and I just don't know what I did wrong.

usually, someone's post gets deleted because it was reported by a member in this forum to the moderator for various reasons (some reported it was spam - off topic - scam or plagiarism), in between all this, you have to think for yourself what you did wrong.

Please can someone help me with the reason for this and also the rules and regulations of this forum I just want to avoid any complications next time am starting a topic

I think you should read @examplens post, he has explained your mistake and I completely agree with what he said. in the future you have to improve your post, don't copy everything in the article but write down the conclusions you get in your own language and writing style.
1950  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If your friend would tell you this... on: December 26, 2022, 06:24:28 PM
If your friend would tell you hey bud I have 10k in BTC lets try to make it 65k. You play on the casino for me.
How would you play? what would be your game pattren?

Id probably do 1 game of black (20k win) then one game of roullete with 10 numbers = $65k profit.
what would you do

even though it's not my money but $10k is not a small amount of money in my country and surely I wouldn't easily accept a friend of mine spending all that money on gambling.

I'll talk to my friend first if he knows the risk of entrusting someone with gambling funds. I will play it my way if he understands the risk, but I won't promise that I can make it to $65,000 or even win since gambling is risky. I will play it in small bets using martingale with dice, blackjack, or any card games. Spend some of the money playing slot games and other live games since there's a lot you can do with $10,000.

martingale is a very risky strategy, I will not do it even if I have large capital or I use my friend's capital and I would avoid gambling based on luck. I will definitely advise my friends to put all that money into sports betting and football is the best option, betting on what we are good at will give big winning chances.
1951  Economy / Speculation / Re: Stop the panic, I doubt we will see 14k or less Bitcoin on: December 26, 2022, 01:45:30 PM
Literally articles are flooding saying the bottom isn't here etc etc.

The FTX thing sucked, but Bitcoin can only go so low with the amount of support it has and how integrated it has become with the banking system.

Stop the FUD.

EDIT: For those of you who seem not to remember what FUD stands for:

as discussed in another topic, no one will know the future of the btc price, if we say now is the bottom price then it is not confirmed but if we say it is not the bottom yet, it cannot be confirmed either. as long as we have preparations for whatever the price of BTC in the future, our worries will disappear.

almost a week to end this 2022 , but  it seems to be ending up to 16k level?  panicking is normal specially to those who invested when the price climbed recently to 18k and now that they are seeing this level it wont bring any good impact to their funds so they have to feel that way but it does not necessary mean they will need to sell at losses.
some of them does but I believe majority of them still hold their money .

I don't mean to speculate on bitcoin price over the next few days but it looks like we will see bitcoin price hold between $16k to $18k - over the next few days. I'm sure the majority of bitcoin holders will definitely keep the bitcoin they have, and will not intend to sell it now.
1952  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How come people spend days here? on: December 25, 2022, 08:40:19 PM
Hey all,

Although I have been interested and in and out of this forum for a about year now, it is only recently that I decided to get serious and learn and perhaps chat here to get more real insights from people with more experience and knowledge.

But one thing I noticed is that many people spend hours upon hours here, like really long hours, which made me think, like how come?

a little information about me, I have a business buying and selling women's accessories online, so I am often in front of my PC and while opening my PC, I also post on this forum and without realizing it I do it for hours while also taking care of my household.

Do you guys make a living commenting and being here or are you really that passionate about web3/ crypto and blockchain?

Of course I'm passionate about crypto and blockchain technology but also I earn and expect side income from this forum, and to be honest it really helps me and my little family. I admit I am very lucky to know this forum and make money from it.
1953  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Licenses and Casino reputation on: December 25, 2022, 07:56:28 PM
There are a lot of casino licenses we can see though personally I don't have a lot of ideas about which one is for what purpose and how they help the gamblers in reality. Nevertheless, I guess, in most of the crypto casinos, curacao is a common license we can see though I barely have ever checked out whether they are licensed or not LOL. What does a curacao license do in reality & how it can benefit us as a gambler?
What are the other common licenses & how they can help the gambler when a gambler faces issues with the casino; especially when the gambler gets robbed/scammed by the casino? It's something I guess we all should be aware of; I believe most of us don't know at all.

I don't know if you have read this, but this article clearly states the benefits and convenience that we (gambling business companies and also gambling players) can get when playing at online casinos that join the Curacao license.

[] https://www.yogonet.com/international/news/2022/11/15/65023-benefits-of-a-curacao-license-for-gambling-companies-in-2022

Don't think a casino that is licensed can't scam you. It's just less likely to happen.

yep, this can happen at any time without anyone predicting it, but if you keep on instilling fear like this then it's impossible for me to play gambling. you must decide on which gambling site you risk your money, on because choosing carelessly an gambling site will only make you lose in the future (especially gambling sites that have just appeared).
1954  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Disaat Crypto Winter begini, Apa yang kalian lakukan? on: December 24, 2022, 07:15:17 PM
namun sekarang ini kebanyakan dari altcoin yang saya miliki - devaluasi lebih dari 50%, nyesek sih, lebih baik tetap hodl aja dah.
Tidak hanya ente, ane juga memiliki devaluasi altcoin bahkan hingga 70%, tapi ya itu tadi, ane juga gak bisa berbuat apa-apa, kalau dijual tentu ruginya berkali lipat dong. HODL adalah langka paling jitu di tengah situasi begini, kalau pun tidak bakal nyentuh ATH lagi, (altcoin selain ETH dan BNB) setidaknya balik modal saja syukur.

iya mas, saya juga sangat mengharapkan bisa balik modal aja udah bersyukur banget. bayangkan saja mas, altcoin yang saya hold yang paling parah mengalami devaluasi adalah $banana token, saya membelinya saat harga berada di $1/token sekarang harganya tinggal $0,06/token. sungguh apes nasib ku.

Disaat crypto winter seperti saat ini (saya tidak tau pasti apakah bottom sudah terjadi) yang paling utama adalah mengumpulkan FIAT (USDT maupun IDR) untuk persiapan borong nanti jika waktunya bottom datang. Mengumpulkan Fiat bisa dengan main airdrop, bounty testnet dll dari gratisan. Atau juga bisa dari kerja real.

belum bisa di pastikan apakah pasar saat ini berada dalam posisi bottom (terendah) karena banyak juga yang memprediksi bahwa harga masih bisa berpotensi turun, jika harga bitcoin terus turun. namun menjaga uang cash untuk terus stand by adalah keharusan, perbanyak cari uang dengan kerjaan real - dan borong aset ast kripto yang mas sukai.
1955  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com | Casino & Sportsbook | VIP | Instant withdrawals! on: December 22, 2022, 04:24:23 PM
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Yes. This issue occurred when you are altering the DNS. Use premium VPN instead to bypass the restrictions because probably your DNS is already invalid for the website. I have that error too when I’m using the DNS tutorial here in the forum.

Question, is this your first time playing on Duelbits or you can play and browse the game before since you are from restricted country and still persist on playing.

thank you very much for your quick reply sir, that's really really helped me Kiss

I'am using a premium VPN now and my problem is solved. btw, there was no problem with my network when I opened duelbits before (this is not my first time playing in duelbits), I haven't opened my duelbits account for more than a month, and this is the first time it's happened and it's true that you said that the DNS I use is invalid. duelbits network security system is very good.

1956  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com | Casino & Sportsbook | VIP | Instant withdrawals! on: December 22, 2022, 03:23:05 PM
can someone help me, I opened my duelbits account and found the sentence "network error", can someone explain why?





I don't use a VPN, I just change the DNS of my network because duelbits can't be in my country if I don't use a VPN or DNS.
1957  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Duelbits.com | Golden Boot ~ Win $250 by guessing top scorer/total goals! on: December 22, 2022, 03:06:10 PM
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Super close with Mbappé ending on 8 goals thanks to the 3(4!) goals scored in the finals.

Hope you all enjoyed the World Cup and scored some nice wins if you were betting on any of the matches.

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bigg thankss to Hhampuz and duelbits team, see you in 4 years (in an event like this) LOL
1958  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Why are you here? on: December 21, 2022, 07:03:33 PM
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Now, I discovered the different forums in cryptocurrency as well as this forum. Hoping to learn more about cryptocurrency and how it really works. I will not stop until I can invest in a right project and contribute a lot in this forum.

feel sorry for your loss! invest in a project that ends in a scam - we've all experienced the same thing, don't give up and stop looking for another project to invest in just because of that bad experience. I hope you can do that (contribute well to this forum).

So for the newbies like me, why did you join bitcointalk.org?

can I answer based on my personal experience first, because I was ever a newbie!  the reason I joined this forum was to make money from Bitcoin and crypto, incidentally, when I first joined, there were many altcoin projects that gave big bounty rewards but over time, I realized that that was a pretty stupid reason to stay in this forum, many lessons that I learned in this forum and it is far more valuable than money.
1959  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Disaat Crypto Winter begini, Apa yang kalian lakukan? on: December 21, 2022, 06:46:37 PM
Sekarang ini ane lihat lagi masa-masanya crypto winter alias musim dinginnya crypto atau masa bearish. Dulu, ketika ane masih belajar di luar negeri [yang ada musim dinginnya], saat-saat begini memang bikin males untuk keluar rumah, pengennya di dalam rumah terus karena di dalam lebih hangat dibanding udara di luar yang suhunya walau tidak - (minus), tapi bikin ujung jari dan bibir ane pecah-pecah.

sedikit menyambung kisah agan blue snow ini. saya juga sudah pernah sekali merasakan bagaimana menderitanya berada di daerah bersalju (dulu pernah ada rejeki liburan ke jepang saat musim salju), badan rasanya gak enak, telapak tangan dan telapak kaki saya pecah2, untung saya rutin make lip balm, jadi bibir tidak pecah2 parah.

Sekarang karena sedikit banyak berpengalaman, agak nahan-naha dulu mau borong altcoin, tidak seperti dulu kalau denger berita yang bagus dikit langsung research dan buy, kalau sekarang ini, agak sabar dan sekarang pun, USDT yang dipersiapkan untuk borong altcoin masih utuh karena takutnya belum bottom tadi, sehingga sekarang ini seperti menunggu sesuatu yang tidak pasti.

Kalau kalian bagaimana?, sudah pada belikah? atau masih nunggu bottom kayak ane.

kalo saya sih yang pastinya masih hold fiat untuk buy nanti, beberapa prediktur mengatakan di tahun 2023 bahwa pasar kripto bakal kemungkinan berada lebih dalam (bottom) lagi. selain bitcoin, saya juga memiliki altcoin yang saya beli di harga tinggi namun sekarang ini kebanyakan dari altcoin yang saya miliki - devaluasi lebih dari 50%, nyesek sih, lebih baik tetap hodl aja dah.
1960  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 21, 2022, 06:21:39 PM
Apart from Nubel, I think Bayern Munich seems interested in the Argentinian goalkeeper in the World Cup - Emiliano Martinez to be their main goalkeeper this season. Neuer looks set to be out for quite a while due to injury. Nubel seems to have no more interest in returning to Bayern Munich, but anything can happen in the end. So it's true, Nubel may not want to be a substitute player who sits more on the bench throughout the season.

To be honest, I am surprised by how FIFA evaluates a goalkeeper at the World Cup, in my opinion, Emi Martinez's performance is very standard, even Croatian and Moroccan goalkeepers are much better imo. in the EPL (he is the goalkeeper of Aston villa) emi martinez is not a goalkeeper who performs brilliantly so that's why I see Bayern is too greedy and feels rushed looking for a replacement neuer.

Even if Bayern lose their game against Leipzig and Freiburg win theirs against Wolfsburg, this will not affect their position in the standings in any way - Bayern have 4 points of advantage and have the right to make a mistake. A very comfortable position, given that Bayern will have to be distracted by super important games in the Champions League. But even with this in mind, I expect that the gap between Bayern and everyone else will increase and not decrease.

Bayern bounced back after a poor start to the season and shifted the position of union berlin which had been at the top for several weeks. currently, the difference in points between Bayern and Freiburg (which is in 2nd place) is 4 points, even though the chance for Freiburg to shift Bayern is still big but Bayern will definitely use all their resources to keep the team strong and stable until the end of the season, and now (from what we've heard) Bayern's main target is to find a replacement for their injured goalkeeper.
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