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2021  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are there any claimants for the stolen 1Feex bitcoins? on: April 11, 2023, 04:00:48 PM
I tried to ask Karpeles @MagicalTux directly via email but he doesn't seem to bother replying back to me.

You contacted Mark over email about a thing he has been in court over and over and years after the court decision you actually think he will reply to a stranger and tell him everything? For real?
Anyhow, since we're here, why don't you contact Craig Wright also, he claimed he owned that address, and since the first transfer to it was the funding one he was also the hacker, of course then he miraculously lost somehow everything related to that address but I'm pretty sure his lawyers will give you any information you want.  Wink

Is there an organized group of claimants for the stolen 1Feex bitcoins?

And from who do you want to claim damages? MtGox? You might be a little late for that!
2022  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can owning 1 Bitcoin make you rich in 2023? on: April 11, 2023, 03:13:42 PM
The rule of investment in risky assets is that you should only invest the amount you can afford to lose, so do you have $30k that you can afford to lose overnight?
It's not the fact that BTC would go to zero, that's a long gone fear, but there are other risks involved, so to make a really long story short, someone who can afford 30k is not something who will dramatically have his life changed if BTC goes to $300k let's say. Slide the bar to BTC to $1 mil, and things change, now it's also a thing of how much can you afford not only to invest, but also how much you can wait for your dream!

So, my question is can Bitcoin give a life that I dreamt as a child.

Unless you tell us, only god knows what you dreamt as a child, if those dreams include a 30-room mansion by the seaside with a tennis court and a Bugatti La Voiture Noire parked between ten other sports cars, probably not! Everyone has different dreams, some dream of a tiny house in the mountains and just a quiet and normal life, earning a bit over the median pension, some are going nuts unless you go into details no one will be able to even have an opinion on it.

What exactly does financial freedom means in context of Bitcoin?

Again, it depends!
For some, it means having enough assets and savings to never care about money in their whole lifetime.
For others, it means not being at the mercy of a 3rd party, with no bank, no authority, no government being able to seize your wealth.
But not that many really care about the second part anymore, the focus is on the first.

2023  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: South Korean crypto exchange GDAC hacked for nearly $14M on: April 11, 2023, 02:32:48 PM
Can they ask Tether to freeze USDT ($220K?, if possible, that is enough significant to reduce the disadvantage? and maybe make people more comfortable to keep USDT than decentralizing cryptos such as BTC and ETH. this is an irony I think.

Of course, they can, and probably Tether will act immediately
This is a bit old information (late 2022) but :

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Tether works closely with law enforcement worldwide to assist in investigations, and has to date assisted in freezing over 360 million in assets, 101 million of which have either been reissued or are scheduled to be reissued. ~snip~
The total amount of Ethereum-based USDT on all banned wallets is worth more than 443 million

I wouldn't be surprised of those 220k are already frozen.

Another one bites the dust. 🫡
https://chainsec.io/exchange-hacks

Interesting stats
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CEX: 55 hacking events, with lost funds amounting to a total of approximately $2.4 billion at the time of these hacks
Defi: 134 DeFi exploits that have occurred, with lost funds amounting to a total of approximately $4.26 billion

So in their short life (compared to BTC) they've managed to get three times more exploits and twice as many assets stolen.
Another thing, I don't know how accurate that list is and if it really counts them all but it seems like CEX hacks have started to go down lately, this is the first of the year and last year only two hacks?

2024  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2023 Diff thread now opened. on: April 11, 2023, 01:56:46 PM
The U.S is leading the green world drama contest,

Oh no, no! No!
It might lead the pack of countries chasing Germany who has already finished the race, take the medal, and is already on the plane back home!
Germany is closing its last nuclear power plants while it has the most expensive energy only to make things worse and worse, it has no way to balance the insane amount of solar it produces during the day with nothing coming on at night, it opposed pump storage lakes, it opposes hydro energy, and seems like the wind is no longer favorite because it doesn't look nice and...god knows what's the plan next!

At least the US has the capacity to go green, but Germany doesn't have even that and it's pushing like mad towards it. I was laughing hearing in our work group how a co-worker from Munich was telling us that by 2027 it could be done, solar and batteries, enough batteries to power a 1.4 Twh a day consumption with 5 hours of sun on average during the year.

Europe was spared of the bitcoin mining drama because our prices were insane in the first place but if it weren't we would be far worse than the US when it comes to the mining is killing the planet rhetoric.

they accuse Bitcoin miners of raising solar panels prices

For real? Wow!

8.1 cents a th at viabtc

And still the pace is negative, again, weird!

 
2025  Economy / Economics / Re: Russian Gas ban - A problem for Europe or suicide for Russia? on: April 11, 2023, 01:38:40 PM
Are you seriously? Russia is the largest country in the world and on its own continent. Russia is part of the BRICS economic alliance, which is larger than the economies of the G7 countries.

Brics GDP:
China   589,171,528 BTC
India   105,428,505 BTC
Russia   66,057,674 BTC
Brazil   53,454,518 BTC
South Africa   13,951,694 BTC
Total 828,063,919 BTC

G7 GDP:
United States   763,990,033 BTC
Japan   164,033,953 BTC
Germany   140,302,857 BTC
United Kingdom   105,875,747 BTC
France   97,590,465 BTC
Canada   66,057,674 BTC
Italy   70,023,355 BTC
Total 1,407,874,086 BTC

I guess only in Russia is  828,063,919 bigger than  1,407,874,086.
It might be a reason why 3 days to Kyiv has become 400 and counting.
2026  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: South Korean crypto exchange GDAC hacked for nearly $14M on: April 10, 2023, 08:46:50 PM
From another article:

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The stolen assets, representing approximately 23% of GDAC’s holdings, were transferred to an unidentified wallet, the exchange said in a statement on Monday.
The exchange lost over US$13.1 million in Bitcoin, Ether, Wemix and USDT. More than US$10 million of the losses were in Wemix

So, assuming they've stolen all those tokens, seems like close to 20% of the total assets on that exchange were made up of a token that is ranked in the 200+ by market cap and one that lost about 95% of its value to date, nothing shady at all.
I thought SK went on a rampage with regulations, scaring most of the exchanges away, how did these guys manage to stay afloat?

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We are requesting cooperation from asset issuers (foundations), exchanges, and DeFi managers to freeze assets.

I always find it ironic how people ask for admins of decentralized exchanges to block and freeze coins, in just one split second forgetting all the key points they were bragging about when promoting such solutions.
2027  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin breaking the biggest limit since match price push on: April 10, 2023, 08:21:56 PM
Mostly chatter. The game of chicken is CPI and Fed Rates against inflation.
We get CPI number in a few days. which determines what fed will do.
It is obvious that many are upbeat which is why we push up near that CPI date.

Same pattern, the push right now is the same as in the last two months, seems like a lot of betting is going on the numbers, and everyone expects positive news, probably if it weren't for that oil bump things would have looked a bit more clear, but right now it's again 25 points probably.

Anyhow, speaking of US data, saw something funny about the job data released a few days ago:
U.S. economy adds 236,000 jobs in March as labor market stays strong
US adds 236,000 jobs in March as labor market weakens
So yeah, this volatility despite a 70-80% chance of 25 points starts making sense when two people look at a duck and say it's a goose or a swan.


2028  Economy / Economics / Re: "Greedflation" has gone too far! on: April 10, 2023, 07:35:28 PM
I am not sure did you read what I wrote, or do you judge by all posts... I am a bit confused here.

Yeah, I read it all, I'm just preemptively closing any doors!  Grin

Well, believe it or not, I already have that math in my head. $500k and I am on pension!

Nothing to not believe, I have the math too, but this is the thing, it's my math, and it won't work for everyone, just like yours is.
Let's run the numbers quick.
500k per person, 8 billion people, that would make 40quadrillion, about 60 times the current global wealth so if every one of us gets that much you either have to produce enough houses, commercial estate, cars, electronics, and everything to compensate for this wealth or a used 2002 golf would go for $200k.
We've seen already how it works to have money and not products, demand, and offers have already shown us what's next so no need to linger on this aspect, and move to the next..

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Big corporations with their "crazy big vehicles" of any kind are making a lot of pollution! They are digging and digging... moving mountains... and let's not get into what they are doing to people, maybe more important to kids along the way. Even now in the 21st century, let's not go into the past about it. Do you really think it's the right path!?


And how do you plan on generating the same wealth for half of the population to achieve at least the same levels as Eastern Europe?
There is only one way, the same way Europe and North America and part of Asia were doing and are doing it, by producing stuff, building houses, creating jobs, so...moving mountains!
It might not be the right path, but I can assure you of one thing, it's the only one that doesn't lead to complete poverty for eveyone.

Again, take a better look. It's not me who brought up "1800s" in conversation...

Hmm, I might have been half wrong on this one you didn't bring up 1800 up but you defended it, so let's split the fault here.

I think we will agree that in 1800 the world was much cleaner, in contrast to modern times, where garbage is everywhere around us, rising over our heads slowly, and we eat totally unhealthy food that comes "from who knows where"... and there are many other "modern global problems" that didn't exist 200 years ago.

2029  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Come and mine Bitcoin in Africa. on: April 10, 2023, 07:04:57 PM
It all comes down to money!
If things would have been that great for mining in Africa people would have moved there and not flocked to Texas or Canada or Russia or... the list goes on.
But yeah the first paragraph says it all, if you want to take a chuck of your profits and give it away, have a lower profit margin and you're interested more in the regional impact of your business, yeah, do it. But, you need the money to do that! And money ain't cheap!  Grin

A few things about :
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a firm that analyses the power consumption of countries, out of 30 nations that have the cheapest power four African countries made the list which includes Rwanda (8th), Kenya (15th), South Africa (15th), and Nigeria (27th).
LE:
The link you've posted shows Rwanda at 25 cents/kwh, it's completely the opposite, these are the most expensive, 25c/kwh is a no-go!
This would make the next paragraph I've written a bit inaccurate!

Rwanda consumes 527.30 million kWh  a year, that's around 20k S19, so around 0.66% of the global hashrate in perfect optimization.
Just having cheap electricity doesn't mean they have the capacity to power any large operations without making others run out of power.

Not quoting everything since it look like a mess now with that change in c/kwh but look how you're giving the examples:

- cheap electricity: Rwanda (8th), Kenya (15th), South Africa (15th), and Nigeria
- security Mauritius  is the 28th safest country in the world, Ghana is the 40th, Gambia 45th and Botswanan 48th.
Now if I were to look at what you mentioned before, Rwanda is 72, Kenya 120, RSA 118, and Nigeria 143.

You can't just go and pick each of the best ones whenever it suits you based on one factor, everyone would want cheap energy as in Norway and taxes as low as in Malta, but, you simply can't have them all.
That being said, probably a few of the African countries are far more attractive than the whole of Europe right now, to what level they can compete with the cheap power and infrastructure available in the US or Russia, that is a thing to be seen, although I wouldn't get my hopes that high for further decentralization of mining farms.

2030  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: 2023 Diff thread now opened. on: April 10, 2023, 06:22:50 PM
If you check the list of currently working plants you will see that many of them have a retirement date ahead, some should be sitting down in a few months, good luck bringing a 2500mw coal plant back to life in 2023 with all the climate activists in the U.S, let alone, do that for the sole purpose of Bitcoin mining, it's going to be very difficult IMO.

Marathon? Hardin Montana?  Grin
But yeah, all the environmental movements will force you to shut down, but to make things worse, just like in Mara's case, they dug the hole themselves, establishing the BMC (Bitcoin Mining Council) and the coming and saying they have clear power than any other industry! It was just asking for trouble. If we exclude the eco-warriors from the equation, restarting those plants might be easier than it seems, at least far easier than in Europe. I don't know what laws the USA has or how they define mothballing there but I've seen it numerous times, they can come back to life pretty fast, so yeah, possible. Unlikely, but doable!

Meanwhile, Bitcoin is pushing through 29k but the diff seems to have calmed down,
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Current Pace:   97.9948%  (584 / 595.95 expected, 11.95 behind)
This is.... weird! I won't say manipulation, but still weird. Barely 2% and then negative after 4 days doesn't feel right with a mini bull run.
So uneventful, I miss the drama!!!!

And as has been asked elsewhere 'Another new all time high' is newsworthy or cause for concern, why?

Hihi might be some concern for miners, a streak of 10% would make some spend a few unpleasant hours in front of an Excel sheet.
But for the general public, the network is just more and more secure, also a bit more blocks are being mined than normal so lower fees, everything is going fine.
2031  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: metal wallet and metal detectors on: April 10, 2023, 01:26:38 PM
The general advice if going for a metal back up is to use stainless steel, since this gives a good balance between hardness, fire proof, corrosion proof, as well as cost. In general, stainless steel is a very poor conductor of electricity and poorly magnetic when compared to most other metals, and can often go undetected by metal detectors, especially if it is very small in size.

This! If you use stainless steel with small washers the whole thing will be around 2.5 cm by 6 cm, easy to hide, with poor conductivity a thief will have to increase the pulse of the detector to a frequency where every hinge in the room will trigger a signal even if they are a meter away, if you hide this in a garage or in a cabinet made out of metal any metal detector would be useless and going through the things by hand will be way faster.

But also, this is only if we talk about commercial detectors.
Professional magnetometers with scan analysis will show the user every tiny bit of metal everywhere, but I somehow doubt a thief will rush and buy a 25k Euros piece of equipment to search for washers in your home.

I have to say though, if you have a thief in your house using a metal detector to find your metal back up, then your op-sec has spectacularly failed and everything you have is probably at risk by that point.

If you have someone who is ready to break into your house with this target in mind, knowing you have enough coins to make it worth stealing and facing prison time then one should be concerned for their safety also. From just a "normal" burglary to getting kidnapped or assaulted and getting to witness a  $5 dollar wrench attack it's just a matter of how much $ you are hiding.
2032  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Being Russia and Russian now on: April 10, 2023, 12:56:53 PM
So far, Putin's economists have been able to minimize the effects of those sanctions hence, the rise of the Rouble.

When you end your story with a thing that can be checked by anyone with an internet connection and it's absolutely fake you might have to go back to the very first word and start the speech once more with the opposite view:



Must be that dedollarization everyone is talking about, with a dollar being worth half of their GDP, nobody affording even one cent unless they sell their kidneys on top of their house and cars and thus making it impossible to use the dollar. Smart plan!  Grin Never thought of this! Must be that 5D chess strategy that took Kyiv in 3 days.

I'm surprised about your article, did you research at all before you penned this down? I doubt that.

Bruh, don't bring data to a propaganda topic, you might confuse the poor fellow!  Grin
Oh and one thing, I don't doubt unemployment is down in Russia, with 300 000 dead and maimed for life and a further 400 000 kidnapped from the streets to serve in the military pretty obvious a ton of job openings are available right now!

2033  Economy / Economics / Re: "Greedflation" has gone too far! on: April 09, 2023, 08:52:23 PM
I was wondering if you would leave a comment... Smiley

When I see a chorus like this not understanding basic economic concepts and clapping their hand in full hate against a concept they are actually embracing while posting here on the same forum I needed to slap a bit of reality on some!

I agree and it's because the fact is that we all want more. But I guess you missed my question, when is enough? Because of that "more money, more profit," we had/have too many casualties... who cares about nature, about the people? Does it matter when profit is higher... Wink

So, when are enough coins and enough profits made from BTC for you? Have you put a label and a quota on your plans also?  Wink
Do you plan on quitting once you have enough and never search for profits again? Or...are you going to answer honestly on this one?  Grin
Because you see, there is one huge difference between preaching this madness and actually being the one doing what your preach, and this is the annoying part, everyone has an idea of how others should live but god help if they should make such a radical change.
Communism at its best, everyone should be equal, but not me!

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The Guardian has reported on new research showing that in one year, a single large container ship can emit cancer and asthma-causing pollutants equivalent to that of 50 million cars.

The Guardian is a leftist piece of toilet paper that stopped being credible a decade ago, I wonder why they keep printing that since we should have all died already
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2004/sep/11/meteorology.scienceofclimatechange
vs
https://www.highnorthnews.com/en/unusually-thick-sea-ice-make-challenging-shipping-northern-sea-route-summer

- Yes I am aware of child mortality in the past
- I know about the sewage problems that all big cities had, believe it or not, some still have them...

So why did you bring it into the conversation earlier?
Would you love to live like in 1800? Or would you love to see others living like that?
2034  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why is Vietnam is so far ahead in crypto adoption compared to Western countries? on: April 09, 2023, 07:52:38 PM
I love the image and the claim..."90% of entrants are now outside of US"
Since the population of the US is still only 4.5% of the total population they still get twice as much representative per capita.
So based on those percentages, Mexico might be the newest crypto hub, lol!

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The hole in cryptographic technology and research basically paved the way.for the current lack of cryptocurrency tech and research in the USA. Look at where the major crypto tech and blockchain projects are headquartered.these days — outside of the USA, because US software engineers.(and to an extent, mathematicians) lack the background to be useful.contributors to such projects.

And still, the US has the largest mining farms, hashrate, most Batms, a ton of companies running legally in the country, biggest investors, and still an influx of people from these crypto hubs that came into the US, funny enough they somehow love the evil decadent west more than their former countries.
I don't see that many Indian and Vietnamese on this thing:
https://buybitcoinworldwide.com/treasuries/

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A common question - especially after the Chainalysis report from 2022 which put Vietnam on top in terms of "crypto adoption" - put towards our direction is:
- Are those data are real?
- And if so, what are the underlying reasons for it?

Mostly made-up things based on surveys and fake data reported by exchanges to boost their numbers, if those assumptions would be true then wound;t this map of business accepting crypto look flipped?


This area should have 32 million people, 7% ownership, which makes 2 million crypto users and only....
[img height-200]https://i.ibb.co/wSv7NNr/62063849.png[/img]
But yeah, probably none of the 90 million crypto owners in India is keen on adding business to this list. Seems, hmm, normal!
2035  Economy / Exchanges / Re: best Bitcoin ATM with low fees in USA on: April 09, 2023, 06:59:20 PM
Unfortunately, you will not be able to get such a list simply because operators refuse to publish those and are changing them all the time.
Same for regulations, you might get used to selling under $500 because there is no ID needed, and the next day you see that the ATM works only with an account, so you have to go to the operator's website, pass all KYC, and then make all the exchange on their app.

Coinradar atm only gets 4% the rest offer no API so any information collected on the ground might be irrelevant tomorrow.
https://coinatmradar.com/charts/buy-fees/united-states/

Unfortunately, right now the best way to compare these when making a purchase is to do it on the day you want to buy and have all their apps installed and run a buy simulation, checking the available info will just get you outdated useless data.
Anyhow, numbers 1-3 are mandatory on almost every Batm model, for number 4 if you go under $1000 there are still some options left like Coinhubatm and BitcoinDepot, of the top owners BATM owners are probably the few left.




2036  Economy / Economics / Re: "Greedflation" has gone too far! on: April 09, 2023, 06:32:31 PM
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‘We may be looking at the end of capitalism’

Lol, this non-sense never stops.
Some morons out there still don't understand that capitalism has nothing to do with politics, with banks with anything else, capitalism works even without banks, it has worked like that in the stone age, in the bronze age in the dark ages and it will work and continue to haunt all these wanna be socialist till the end of humanity.
Every single other alternative has to be imposed, has to be enforced by a multitude of never-ending laws and regulations till it goes down in flames taking down the entire economy and the people enforcing it with it. How many times does this need to happen to finally understand that you will first need to brainwash and lobotomized every single person in this world for capitalism to be gone?

And lately, this thing is getting frustrating!
How and why in the name of god are we even discussing here the end of capitalism when the whole idea of bitcoin, all the deals that happen on this forum, and all the businesses that start here and promote themselves are a product of capitalism and a free market?

I think we will agree that in 1800 the world was much cleaner, in contrast to modern times, where garbage is everywhere around us, rising over our heads slowly, and we eat totally unhealthy food that comes "from who knows where"... and there are many other "modern global problems" that didn't exist 200 years ago.

Yeah, everyone was burning coal and wood, there were basically no drugs to combat any epidemics, there was no food safety whatsoever, the life expectancy was around 40 years, and you know what childmortality looked like?
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The child mortality rate in the United States, for children under the age of five, was 462.9 deaths per thousand births in 1800.
So basically for you to have two kids reaching adolescence you would have to be ready to bury at least two at birth.

And no garbage? Lol!
https://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/when-new-yorkers-lived-knee-deep-in-trash/
Do you know how toilets and sewage worked in cities in 1800 and 1700? Oh wait, they didn't!
2037  Economy / Reputation / Re: Stop deceiving people. I will leave him a negative tag. on: April 09, 2023, 06:09:29 PM
I can't believe there are such Stupid people who are always finding people to block their profiles. What will you get in your whole life?
You will be a shitbag for your whole life.

Oh, the classical meltdown of the one caught red-handed.
I said it a hundred times, don't start topics bragging about stuff when you know you have a ton of skeletons in the closet, I've seen tens of accounts cursing the day they opened a topic about leveling to the hero or senior member only to get a tag for multiple accounts, bought account or other stuff.
You couldn't resist bragging about a phone!

I am not telling because if they are Earning than let's earn them.

Honor Among Thieves! Shitposting farmer version!

Btw, @lovesmayfamilis, why didn't you add his name in the title? Might be easier to find by all those that congratulated him on his "achievements".
2038  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Under capitalism eventually 1% own 99% of BTC, 1% have 99% of power? on: April 09, 2023, 10:59:36 AM
Uhhh 1% does not own 99% of Bitcoin. No idea where you got that idea from.

It's actually way worse if you count on the number of users compared to the world!

I don't understand why everyone is focused on the number of coins being distributed amount addresses, this is the wrong approach if you compare it to the current wealth distribution. If in the current fiat world, we say 1% hold 99% of the wealth we do include in the 99% of the rest of the population the ones that have a big flat zero, because otherwise we would say that the 1% have more money than the 45% that have something and 54% have nothing. When analyzing Bitcoin the same way we should do the same, because at no point in our lifetime will there be a moment when everyone holds at least one satoshi, some will never have a single unit of it!

So, applying the same metrics we should look at how many own 99% of the BTC compared to the world population.
And if we bring that 1% here it means that to match evil capitalist wealth hoarding we would need 80 million people to hold 99% of the current Bitcoin supply, which is more than possible!
So, is 1% of the world population holding close to 99% of the total Bitcoins ever mined? Highly possible!

Just because right now 13981 addresses hold 59.37% of the total coins it doesn't mean that with x100 more users those numbers will also split by 100 and all the coins will be distributed equally!


2039  Other / Off-topic / Re: I have bought my First Mobile Phone Because of Signature Compaign earnings on: April 09, 2023, 10:47:48 AM
Honestly, smells like bs merit fishing story to me.

If it smells like a fish, it must be a real rotten fish!  Cheesy
Not only was the story half fabricated and then edited to actually try to look real but as usual with these stories, this is just the tip of the iceberg, from nutildah investigation OP seems to clearly not be a dedicated learner that wants to contribute to the forum but a ban-evading, multiple-account cheater who uses AI-generated text.

And as usual with these stories, instead of keeping a low profile OP will get himself in more trouble than he ever wanted, if at least it were for a Lambo picture, not for a used smartphone!

Well, maybe the new phone has a better auto-correct and OP won't post crap like this anymore when he tries to make a post on his own!

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As you guys know that Silicone valley bank became bankrupt and that was Disaster for the banks world and also there is an alarming pressure on European banks cause they might have not funds other than they claim that they have. That's why crypto us a good thing just hold your worth too you without knowing that how much money do you have and it's a game changer. And I like it's very much.
And  I think that in future we might see more banks to crash and tit would nit be good for the banks. As banks use people's money to invest in business and jn return they get a lot of money by just holding people's funds. That's why I never put my money in banks either.

It's always the same story, I sometimes wish theymos would just disable meriting the first post in a topic!
2040  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Binance Banned in Australia on: April 08, 2023, 01:28:01 PM
Out of pure curiosity, I visited CZ's Twitter page and I wasn't disappointed at all, not surprised to find the same pattern repeating again denials of any wrongdoing, accusations of FUD , a lot of mumbo jumbo and a wave of applause from his loyal followers praising him again for god knows what, the whole circus doing again a marvelous rerun of their best numbers. Not surprising to hear that Binance Australia never actually had a granted license but instead acquired a licensed company to run its operations through it, and yet, CZ claims to always follow the rules and dismisses anyone who points out the obvious as a "fudster."

It's not that they've been banned but it's their own request to cancel their derivatives license because of some of their customers.

Yeah right!
Just like a kidnapper is putting his gun down at his own will, not because there are 10 snipers having a clean shot at his forehead!  Grin
The 100 number and the following part is coming from a spokesperson, they can claim whatever they want as they won't be facing legal troubles for a paragraph in an interview.



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